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4:15 AM
@MechMK1 meterpreter
 
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Q: Collaboration tools

Stanl lIs there any good alternatives to the lair-framework. I think that was an awesome platform, and unfortunately its not maintained anymore and no more updates to it. But i have tried all other kinds of pentest collaboration tools (Faradaysec, dradis, and a few other ones) but the only one that i ca...

 
 
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9:06 AM
@FireQuacker, I guess that's what some security researchers do, probably maintaining a list of IPs related to specific attacks and infections, and giving them a name (even giving names to hacking groups)
 
Yes, as you can see in the close reason:
>Questions seeking product recommendations are off-topic as they become obsolete quickly. Instead, describe your situation and the specific problem you're trying to solve.
@ConorMancone if he was so racist, why was he dating a black woman then?
I mean, that kinda doesn't make a whole lot of sense, now does it?
 
@MechMK1 I can barely form a coherent sentence because that whole thing is so stupid.
 
@ConorMancone It reminds me of something, let me find it
 
I hate the way that so many people use "Trump Supporter" as if it is a captial offense. I'm not even one myself, but apparently half of the US thinks the other half should be drawn and quartered (or at least reported to the FBI)
"Hmmmm... this guy sounds like he's racist. Let's report him to the FBI". So stupid
 
9:22 AM
This guy made a fantastic essay which I have to find among his other fantastic essays
In it, he speaks about how if we have a perception of group A and find behavior that conflicts with that perception, there are multiple ways we can deal with that
We might adapt our perception of group A, saying "I used to believe they all do X, but it turns out some do Y as well"
We might rationalize that the person we talk to "isn't really a member of group A", since they do X.
Or, even more sinisterly, we can claim that they fake doing it.
Imagine thinking "Every Trump Supporter is a racist". And you find a white Trump Supporter dating a liberal black woman. You can say they only fake not being racist, in order to seem normal.
As such, even the act of looking past the color of ones skin and loving the person someone is, regardless of their race, has become a racist act in some people's minds.

Because as a trump supporter, you are a racist. There is no way you can not be.
 
Racism is a very complex matter, which involves the fact that racism has always existed, and I don't believe it will go away soon, if ever at all
 
@reed I agree, and I think it also greatly depends on how we as a society as a whole want to deal with the issue
Do we wish to pretend race does not exist? Or do we wish to celebrate differences in races? We can't have it both ways.
This was the video
 
9:39 AM
The logic behind racism is common to all humans, it's about abstractions, simplifications, also fallacies, defense of values and territory, interaction between cultures, etc.
 
The "us" and the "others" is deeply ingrained into all of us
 
So it really pisses me off to see people treat racism like it was a simple fashion, something that will go away if you wave a flag or shout a slogan or "take a knee" (whatever this latest sign is called)
 
@reed We did it, we set our profile picture to a black square. We solves racism.
 
Anonymous
Most of all of what you described is nothing more than virtue signalling.
 
Anonymous
I'd argue that 90% of those people know that they are not solving anything - they just want everyone to know what "great" people they are.
 
9:46 AM
Fuck virtue signalling
 
Anonymous
Those social media stunts have nothing to do with black people or ethnic minorities, they have to do with white people trying to make it clear to everyone that they are "not racist".
 
Anonymous
It's virtue signalling, nothing more.
 
Anonymous
And yes I agree, fuck virtue signalling.
 
Anonymous
If you have to tell people that "you're not a racist" you probably are.
 
Anonymous
it's like those people who say "I have nothing against gay people but..."
 
Anonymous
9:47 AM
Those are the same people who do actually have something against gay people they just don't want society to outcast them.
 
See, that's the advantage when you are like me. You have no need to virtue signal.
 
Anonymous
That shit makes me mad.
 
Anonymous
Yeah likewise, Mech.
 
Anonymous
I couldn't give a flying fuck what someone thinks of my opinions.
 
Oh, I thought you were racist too :D
 
Anonymous
9:48 AM
lmfao.
 
Anonymous
My father is extremely racist.
 
Anonymous
And it's very awkward because I date a brown Palestinian girl.
 
Speaking of her, how is she? Can she already return to the UK? I hope she's doing fine where she is right now
 
Anonymous
She's okay. She isn't coming back until after this is over now.
 
Anonymous
And then she needs to find a job or something.
 
Anonymous
9:50 AM
But she has to before the end of the year else I don't know what will happen.
 
Anonymous
Won't be allowed back in presumably.
 
Anonymous
Fucking brexit.
 
I hope things will go fine for you, I really do
 
Anonymous
Thank you.
 
Anonymous
If not, it isn't a big deal she can still live in Germany.
 
9:51 AM
I do have my own worries. I hope the germans don't close the border until the 19th
 
Anonymous
And she could still visit of course. Would suck but.
 
Anonymous
Who knows, can't control the world unfortunately.
 
Perhaps she could apply for a visa if she had a job in the UK?
 
Anonymous
Yeah, she just needs to find one first.
 
Anonymous
The problem is, she can't find one because nobody is hiring.
 
Anonymous
9:53 AM
So it's a bit of a shitty situation all round.
 
Anonymous
Ultimately I just don't want her to be in palestine
 
Anonymous
Cus you know, it soon won't exist.
 
How so? Conflict with India?
 
Anonymous
Annexed.
 
.....
@MechMK1 that's pakistan that has a border with india
 
9:56 AM
Or what country was india having quarrel with for decades?
Fuck
Pakistan, yes
 
and china
and...
 
Damn, I need a coffee. Give me a second
 
make it a double
 
Anonymous
Israel basically taking over the whole damn country.
 
Ah yes, palestine was the country that is in the situation we're not allowed to speak of or else we're anti-semites
 
9:57 AM
uh
Technically
Palestine isn't one country
 
Anonymous
Well, yes.
 
Anonymous
Either way, it is going to be totally destroyed if this happens.
 
Anonymous
Luckily she is from Nablus
 
Anonymous
Which isn't being touched
 
@J.J for certain values of destroyed
 
Anonymous
9:58 AM
At least, not from the plans they released afaik
 
Anonymous
so.
 
That's an upside at least
 
I don't think "taking over" palestine is anything more than a political ploy
 
Anonymous
^ that will cause a huge war
 
Anonymous
Which is why I have an issue with t
 
Anonymous
9:59 AM
Since I dont want her to get bombed or die.
 
Anonymous
lmfao.
 
That Israel would win easily because the US would happily support them
 
@J.J uh, not really. It will cause a conflict fuelled by various parties who don't actually give a shit about the palestinians outside as a proxy for wars they lost.
 
Anonymous
But innocents die in wars all the time.
 
Anonymous
So if theres even 1% chance she could die
 
Anonymous
9:59 AM
Thats not something I want.
 
Anonymous
Regardless of where the conflict is, etc.
 
Israel is the US greatest ally in the middle east, even though before the US were allied to Israel, the US had no enemies in the middle east.
 
Anonymous
I don't particularly care for the politics.
 
Anonymous
I jsut don't want my girlfriend to be in the middle of a war its really that simple.
 
Anonymous
lol
 
10:05 AM
Now, as a normal user, I might walk in on this conversation, go "nope" and slowly back away. As a mod, I feel a strange responsibility to make sure everyone is behaving. So, is everyone behaving?
 
@schroeder Yes, everyone is behaving well
I also had my coffee, so I am now more than 30% conscious too
 
@MechMK1 cool.
 
Plus I'll be off for 2 weeks anyways, more or less, since I will be on holiday
That might mean you will barely see me, or you will see me all too much
 
10:26 AM
@J.J the region hasn't ever been peaceful in modern times
the hell with politics, the hell with everyone, and I hope you get your girl out.
 
Anonymous
I know.
 
Anonymous
But it is only going to get worse.
 
Same!
 
@schroeder surprisingly well. As evidence by the fact no one is mad at me :D
 
Anonymous
And she lived in Germany since I knew her :)
 
10:27 AM
@J.J its cyclic really
 
Anonymous
But now she is back there.
 
Anonymous
Which is a problem for me.
 
right now is probably going to be extra bad cause of all the politicians needing to hide their own inadequcies
speaking of politics
I voted today!
 
What did you vote on?
 
I however am not going to encourage you all to vote, unless you have a vote to vote, in which case what the hell are you doing go vote already
@MechMK1 for my MP(s)
 
10:29 AM
Ah, I'm austrian, so it doesn't apply to me
I thought it was a meaningful vote, like new moderators or such. I'd vote to keep the ones we have
 
and indirectly, the shape of the government that will likely be dealing with Covid
@MechMK1 uhhh
Moderatorship is pretty much till death pain till you quit or are removed
Well there's a third path to it, but that's getting hired
 
Ah that make sense
If someone asked me whom I would trust more, the SEC.SE Moderation Staff or any of our current politicians, you know who'd get my vote
The sad thing is, if I had to vote today, I would not know who to vote for. I feel like all parties here are backhanded, claiming to have integrity while only working into your own pocket. It feels like voting for any one party is only to support corruption
I would go to the election, so they register that I participated and wasn't too lazy, but I would not mark any party and turn in an empty paper
 
10:55 AM
You've just perfectly described my feelings towards US politics. The only difference is that I vote 3rd party which in the US is worse than not voting because everyone views it through the lens of "By not voting for my guy you are voting for the other guy, and he is the devil incarnate! You are literally murdering children!"
I'm not sure where the connection to murdering children comes in, but when I mention voting 3rd party that's usually the level of the response, from both sides
 
11:20 AM
Because you are the enemy! You did not vote for me, so you must hate everything I value
 
11:50 AM
@MechMK1 I'm in an interesting situation
I'd rather vote for one of the big two opposition parties
but they are not standing here.
(well we have a third this election and I kinda like em, but I want more fire and blood in parliment)
 
12:22 PM
politics usually are the "Sofia's Choice"... no matter what you do, the results are terrible anyway
 
 
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1:37 PM
I have a directory with permissions drwxr-sr-x+. What does the + mean?
 
 
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2:57 PM
@JohnZhau More special attributes I think
 
3:32 PM
@JourneymanGeek I used to vote for the opposition too
 
4:04 PM
I think noscript just updated, and now google loops forever. Might be a bug, or might be something only I am experiencing
so now I'm forced to use Duck Duck Go :D
 
You weren't using DuckDuckGo already? :O
 
no, because years ago they said there was a big difference, Google was THE search engine. Although now they say DDG is catching up
but I haven't been using it
and I've never felt like making a thorough comparison of the results, with periodic tests, although it would be cool and I'm sure somebody else has already done it
 
 
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5:52 PM
I can't bear to use Google anymore because it doesn't have !commands
With DDG, you can stick a !w on the end to be redirected to a Wikipedia search, or !whois for a whois search, or !g for a Google search
There's a whole bunch of !commands
 
nice
 
6:17 PM
After a quick test, I have to say I really like DDG. Results seem pretty good. Thumbs up
 
6:56 PM
Interesting, didn't know about that
 
7:34 PM
Here's a page about it: duckduckgo.com/bang
After you get used to them, it's hard to live without them
 
 
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9:14 PM
Can I ask a stupid question?
Why is wearing a face mask such a problem in the US?
I see people making claims that "they can't breathe" in a mask. My uncle has COPD and even he has no problem wearing a mask
Is this some political statement?
 
9:27 PM
Probably
"I don't like it" quickly becomes "MY FREEDOMS"
 
But doesn't your own personal freedom clash with the freedom of others as soon as your freedom puts others at risk?
For example, a primary school teacher has the freedom to smoke cigarettes at home, but once they smoke them in the classroom, it would begin to affect others.
In that case, the "my freedom" argument would be the same, right?
Would I as a primary school teacher have the freedom to harm my students lungs?
 
9:57 PM
@MechMK1 Yes, obviously it should, but you're assuming a certain amount of unselfishness
 
I mean, it's quite a philosophical question, isn't it?
How far may my own freedom tread on others?
 
10:09 PM
I think this is partially why people hold so vehemently to the "masks don't work" or masks make people sick" lines.
The truth might be that you're a selfish asshole, or you can convince yourself that you're basically Robin Hood, trying to save people from an evil government.
 
I certainly understand the appeal of wanting to belong to an elite group who know "the truth" that everyone else seems to be too indoctrinated to understand. But in this case, the evidence to the contrary is overwhelming.
Though I can certainly understand why a layman would think "I am dubious how effective masks are", I don't understand the line of thinking that masks are actually harmful
 

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