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hola
 
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Q: An apology to our community, and next steps

David FullertonI’m David Fullerton, Stack Overflow’s CTO, responsible for the product, engineering, and community teams. I joined Stack Overflow in 2010 because I believed in the vision and mission of Stack Overflow. I wanted to be a part of building a community where programmers come together to help one anot...

08:14
so basically we screwed up, sorry dont go.Lmao
 
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10:03
I'm really disappointed in the "apology", though I have to say I wouldn't know how I would have written one in this situation
Such a complex situation, so many people, everybody is hurt
So I decided to share something positive: I finished my second ever miniature yesterday and I'd like to share it with you folks: https://imgur.com/a/CW2jjRQ

Criticism is highly appreciated, even "wow, it looks like trash" :D
 
4 hours later…
14:05
@MechMK1 It looks absolutely horrible. You should carefully wrap it and mail it to me...
More seriously... second ever?Damn... waaaay above the curve
that looks good
@JourneymanGeek So you can dispose of it in an orderly fashion?
I'll put it on a shelf so it won't offend anyone.
Plastic?
I think it's the result of me worrying way too much about how it looks
those tracks look crazy metalic
Yes, it's a plastic model. The tracks are done with metallic paint
14:07
yeah, it looks really good
I watched so many tutorials on how to paint before I even touched a brush
I had to redo so many parts
The first model I painted had some mistakes in it, and I didn't really understand how layer paints worked and how to do drybrushing or edge highlighting
I'm still not that good at it, but I am trying my absolute best to make it look okay
"not that good" ...
lies ;p
No, I saw how people can paint, and I still struggle with many techniques
Wet blending, freehand, glazing, NMM, etc.
Admittedly, those are all advanced techniques, but I would still like to be able to employ a nice blend in a miniature of mine
@MechMK1 That looks amazing!
@M'vy Which one? :D
14:14
Well, I hadn't seen the second one yet.
The second one is trully outstanding
Thank you very much then. The second one is not from me, it's from Siege Studios, who are like professional miniature painters
Just the colours on the tips of the wings are so magnificent
I agree
Let alone the stars in the wings. Gorgeous in every way
As for my model, I would rate it "Good enough for the tabletop"
And the globle, my word
The globe is amazing!
14:16
@MechMK1 it's definitely better than anything I could do. So praises where praises are due
@M'vy Thank you very much. The funny thing is, I have never done anything creative before. I never even painted as a kid
Though during painting, I learned some valuable lessions, especially on how to apply the yellow
To quote GW with the understatement of the century: "Some people commented that they find yellow somewhat difficult to apply"
I used to paint with Aquarelle (if that's the english word for it too)
It rings a bell
No rhyme intended
Water paint
Ah yes! For some reason I mistook it for windowcolour :D
My paints are acrylic based, as far as I know
14:20
Would make sense
Water-based acrylic, as far as I could research
But for my mini, I used a lot of "low-skill, high-impact" techniques
I'm assuming you used a black underlayer?
Especially shading and drybrushing
Yes, I sprayed the miniature with Chaos Black first, so that the paint sticks
You don't technically have to basecoat it, but if you don't, lots of colours, such as browns, don't stick at all and just flow off
I once started to paint some miniatures Warhammer. I do not think I finished it...
This is my second one. The first is a "Mek Gun", for which sadly I don't have pictures here
14:23
;)
It's not that good
I made quite some mistakes there, didn't really know what each colour "did"
Like for example, there are two shades in particular that I use a lot: Nuln Oil and Agrax Earthshade
As well as Reikland Fleshshade
And if you use them on a metallic surface, each gives a particular effect
Reikland Fleshshade, being quite red, makes the metal look rusty. Nuln Oil makes it oily looking, and Agrax Earthshade gives it a bit of a dirty appearance
All of it makes sense, if you think about it, but it wasn't immediately obvious to me when I had started
For example, yesterday night I watched this video, and the part I linked to was mindblowing for me
It's such a simple trick, but it looks amazing in the end result
Yeah, it's a complicated process. You have to try and learn from your mistake I guess.
Yes, I learned so much from this miniature. My next one will be an Ork Deff Dread, which I'll paint in the same Yellow/Purple colour scheme
I already noticed how much easier yellow was to paint, now that I know how to apply it well
15:29
@schroeder Hello there, it's been a while
@MechMK1 howdy
How are things?
Dropping in chat in case people have any serious issues that require immediate mod assist. The mods are stepping back but if there are major issues, we will help.
I was trying to avoid this topic, but given that you mentioned it, what is your opinion on things?
As mods, we deal with a LOT of shit on a daily basis all the while trying to keep a safe and informative community that fits the community standards (good Q&A starts with good questions). It's a little like trying to shovel an ocean. But we think that we are providing value. To then get the exact same type of shit from the company is beyond the pale.
15:39
I was thinking the same thing. SE, Inc. claims that the community is their biggest asset, but their actions tell a different tale
To have the company make a licensing change, even a legitimate one, without addressing the concerns and questions from the community shows a lack of understanding that the entire company is based on User-Generated Content (UGC) and that the Users should then come first. The company's handling of the entire thing is a problem for me in that it does not place the Users first.
I'm here to advocate for and to help and put guiderails up for the community but if my efforts can be summarily overridden by people outside of the community for their own benefit and not the community's, then what am I doing?
So, if my efforts are in vain, and I don't have support from the company, then maybe I should step back for a while. As an elected Mod, I feel a responsibility to still keep the community safe, because there is literally no one else who can help like a Mod can. And we all deserve to feel safe online.
I completely understand. I ceased activity for a few days doing editing, flagging, reviewing, etc...
Not out of spite for the community or to make the lives of the moderation team even harder, but to show SE, Inc. that they need the community
In a completely unrelated note, I'm at the tram stop right now and a guy just lit up a joint next to me. What a legend :D
not that noteworthy in some parts of the world - where are you?
The scene you describe is just another Monday in Vancouver
15:55
Austria, where it's not legal
It's just a funny anecdote. Anyways, to your points, I completely understand what you said and I'm surprized to not see you anywhere in the recent meta discussion
Not a lot to add to that discussion, and as a mod of only one Stack, I feel like others have more skin in the game.
I respect your opinion, but I disagree with the notion that one needs to moderate at least X sites for their opinion to count
There is already a lot of noise :) My focus is the community. This community. The company can decide how it wants to operate with the info and opinions that they already have on hand.
Doing the right thing does not require a majority vote.
16:05
Why do the engaging conversations happen when I am almost at home?
I understand your point. At least since this whole incident I don't have to feel bad about using ad-blockers anymore
lol
My feelings about the general state of questions on the site are slowly eroding after a total lack of modding. Do people not know how to form a google query?
People appear to spend more time writing their question here than framing a good search query.
16:28
@MechMK1 Ssup bud.How goes the lady troubles?
You guys had a chat? everything good?
 
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19:27
When I discuss with people my online habits on anonymity, social media, passwords etc, they think that I m paranoid, weird, or even sometimes a criminal. Is there a way to avoid that? Preferably without lying.
@Fermiparadox no
I was hoping for a different answer :P
"I like to have parts of my life that are private from the world"

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