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user334283
user334283
07:30
Is Debit card black strip actually a magnetic tape which holds your account information?
 
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Arperum
Arperum
12:00
Did the Uk really voted a law in to require backdoors in all encryption... That's insane.
user334283
user334283
@Arperum they still won't be able to decrypt what's app chats.
Arperum
Arperum
@user334283 Won't that just mean that whatsapp becomes illegal? or be forced to build in a backdoor.
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
12:17
no-one (AFAIK) really knows how far it'll go, the general powers are there now, but the technical implementation isn't known
so it could be either massively invasive and insecure OR totally useless
take your pick of those two stellar options
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
or both
or they could just refuse to store data.
cause pretty darned sure monitoring and decrypting everything in realtime will get pricy fast
Tinned_Tuna
Tinned_Tuna
@JourneymanGeek I don't think so, they'll just hand the responsibility down the chain to the comms providers, much like they did with internet connection records (ICRs)
user334283
user334283
12:34
@Arperum The one possible backdoor what's app can be forced to build in their app is if application itself copies and sends client messages to the government without the user knowledge.
can anyone explain in short words how 2 users agree on one symmetric key to encrypt/decrypt messages?
Arperum
Arperum
@user334283 No, the thing is that if the governments requires it, WHatsapp will be legally required to be able to provide exactly what two users are sending to eachother, regardless if that's possible now or not. (I sure hope it's not)
user334283
user334283
12:56
@Arperum That's the problem for government. Even what's app can't read what you are sending or receiving. I'll check what algorithm what's app is using else I won't be able to know why what's can't read.
Government may not read your chats but they can ask what's app to give them your chat logs of with whom you are talking to and when and for how much time.
Arperum
Arperum
13:13
@user334283 No. The new law allows government to force companies to give a way to read encrypted messages. So they can force a company to build in a backdoor, or to fuck the hell out of the UK;
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
13:36
@Arperum the question is whether large providers of software will actually comply
if it were the USA asking they'd likely have no choice
however with the UK I could see someone like Apple just refusing
Arperum
Arperum
@RоryMcCune Yea, I assume bigger companies will just be like "We'll just stop doing any and all business in the UK then."
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
well they'll threaten that, then it will be down to the UK.Gov to call their bluff or not
Arperum
Arperum
That will be interesting to see how it develops.
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
but for Apple et al the risk is if they give in once, they'll get asked again and again
and the security of their products will be ruined
Arperum
Arperum
Yup. Plus, everyone will know there is a backdoor and will figure it out at some point.
Stack Exchange
Stack Exchange
14:23
If I were trapped on a desert island, and could have an unlimited supply of any one type of apple, I'd be like, "How did this situation happen?"
 
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Stack Exchange
Stack Exchange
19:52
How Do Software Developers in New York, San Francisco, London and Bangalore Differ?
David Robinson on November 30, 2016
When I tell someone Stack Overflow is based in New York City, they're often surprised: many people assume it's in San Francisco. (I've even seen job applications with "I'm in New York, but willing to relocate to San Francisco" in the cover letter.) San Francisco is a safe guess of where an American tech company might be located: it's in the heart of Silicon Valley, near the headquarters of tech giants such as Apple, Google, and Facebook. But New York has a rich startup ecosystem as well- and it's a very different world from San Francisco, with developers who use different languages and technologies.

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