The DMZ

TildalWave

00:00

@RoryAlsop or ... make a machine that also makes snowballs

kalina

I prefer the new @TildalWave

Journeyman Geek

cause he ain't blue?

TildalWave

huh?

kalina

yeah

Journeyman Geek

@TildalWave and throw them to dogs. In the snow ;p

David Freitag

00:01

@JourneymanGeek I see what you did there ( ͡◉ ͜ ʖ ͡◉)

TildalWave

@kalina me too :)

reading the site is a completely different experience, I now read stuff I'm actually interested in, before I was reading stuff others thought I should be

kalina

no doubt

now you just need to get on my level and just use chat while largely ignoring the sites

TildalWave

@kalina no, wait, first I have like 50 games to play through

kalina

lol

Journeyman Geek

;p

kalina

00:19

well this is fun

David Freitag

@TildalWave so what have you been doing with all this new found free time?

TildalWave

I have founded and am the sole member of a 50 men fight club

kalina

I did some refrigerator shopping but didn't find anything I wanted

David Freitag

@TildalWave Is that the "50 games" you need to play through? :b

kalina

I have terrible munchies and require subsistence

TildalWave

00:23

hmmm no but good point about me repeating that number 50 for some reason

dunno why

kalina

which 50 games?

what games do you need to play

TELL ME I NEED TO KNOW

all the things

David Freitag

@TildalWave Must be a 50 shades of grey thing

kalina

I hope Fallout 4 is one of those games

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag hahaha maybe

@kalina it is

kalina

well everybody dies in the end

now you don't need to play it

David Freitag

00:24

@TildalWave I hope JC 3 is on that list of games too

kalina

I hope Tomb Raider is one of those games

and Rise of the Tomb Raider

TildalWave

I don't really know all the titles, but I'll start with something easy like Borderlands 2

David Freitag

(Even though JC 3 has quite a few major flaws)

kalina

don't play Borderlands 2 it's boring

Mark Buffalo

tings of the greets

kalina

00:24

also you should play Pre-sequel first

David Freitag

@TildalWave Oooh good game. Also Borderlands the Pre-Sequel

TildalWave

@kalina I don't care, I'll just stop playing it when I get bored of it

Journeyman Geek

@TildalWave ONE MAN ENTERS. FIFTY MEN LEAVE!

David Freitag

@JourneymanGeek @Simon's mom's room?

2

Hehehehe

kalina

old

David Freitag

00:29

@kalina Yeah it's old, it's a picture of young @kalina

kalina

no iszi linked it earlier in that link in the star list

David Freitag

The best part about having a California cell phone number is the wrong number calls

@kalina Oh yeah it's from there

kalina

yeah I know

...

mmm watchmojo youtube channel

I needed more top 10s

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag Exploit?

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo Nah just a random image from a link posted in here

Mark Buffalo

00:37

@DavidFreitag Usually that's how "pentesting" (ugh) works

You exploit a problem, and make the dev fix it because it's their problem

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo Yes I know how pentesting works. Also, whats with the dislike of the term pentest?

TildalWave

3 hours ago, by Rоry McCune

Rory McCune - Penetration Testing Must Die

►

we're being supportive :)

David Freitag

@TildalWave Oh, yeah, I've never actually watched that one

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag Well, @kalina and the rest of us have different concepts of what penetration testing means

TildalWave

it's only 25 minutes, but luckily Roro jr. speaks so fast you can watch it at 0.5x the speed and make it 50 minutes long :)

David Freitag

00:40

@MarkBuffalo wow dick

kalina

@TildalWave he looks like mid 20s in this video

David Freitag

@kalina Apparently he was 37

Mark Buffalo

2

Q: After I've plugged my phone into a computer to upload photos, can people see the photos I did not upload even after I unplugged my phone?

I plugged my phone into a computer at work to upload photos using a USB, then unplugged it. I only uploaded the photos I needed, however, could they somehow see the photos I didn't upload on the computer even when I unplugged the USB after I was done? If it helps, my phone is an iPhone 5s, and I ...

kalina

is that like an audience of 15 people?

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag PAY ATTENTION

Also, would it be considered off-topic to post a picture of me in a drag?

David Freitag

00:42

@MarkBuffalo I'M FRESH OUT OF ATTENTION TO PAY

TildalWave

@kalina 37 years of experience, a body of a 20 year old man,... that's a win win in my books

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo It would burn our retinas... so yes.

kalina

at least he's mastered the use of powerpoint

Mark Buffalo

@TildalWave Face says 16-19 years old... age is 37

David Freitag

@kalina He uses some fancy presentation software now.

Can't remember what it's called, but it's not powerderp

Mark Buffalo

00:44

My face says 55, age is 30 something

David Freitag

No your face clearly says 30 something

kalina

he talks like I do, at a million words a minute

TildalWave

it's pretty funny at 0.5x the speed

kalina

here is a massive wall of speech

which is funky because I'm struggling with the accent a little

David Freitag

@kalina Where were you when he posted that? We talked about this

kalina

00:46

who knows

David Freitag

So Mazda made it really easy to take apart these $250 key fobs

I'm eternally grateful.

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag Why would you take apart FOBs?

That's murder.

David Freitag

Although their choice to use a coil cell holder that fits a CR2025 and not a CR2032 disturbs me.

kalina

@MarkBuffalo replace the battery?

Mark Buffalo

Those fresh-off-the-boats are going for as low as $250 these days? Dammit.

David Freitag

00:48

@MarkBuffalo No, they're $250 for a dozen

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag :O

David Freitag

By the time I'm done taking them apart I could be a surgeon

Mark Buffalo

So what are these fobs? What's a FOB?

Remote control keys to the vehicle?

David Freitag

Someone sent me a hangouts message with the word "slippery" in it and it's just sitting festering in my inbox

Mark Buffalo

Ours are like... $600 for each key.

kalina

00:50

depends on the age of the vehicle

could just be remote unlocking

David Freitag

That's almost as bad as "moist"

kalina

mm moist

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag Speaking of hangouts... did you give up on the project or something?

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo Mine is unlock/lock/trunk/alarm + keyless entry/keyless start

Mark Buffalo

ah, yeah... those are $600 each for us. I WISH we could pay $250 and get a dozen.

David Freitag

00:51

And since the battery died it's a lot more of keyed start/entry

@MarkBuffalo No mine are actually $250 each

Mark Buffalo

ah

kalina

@RоryMcCune handles his questions well

David Freitag

Alright I'm freezing time to go home

kalina

"somebody might wake up tomorrow and go... I hate the shetland tourism board"

AviD

@DavidFreitag OMG THAT IS BRILLIANT

go ahead, freeze time, it will be like you got home immediately

Hero Nakamura

kalina

00:53

time doesn't feel frozen

AviD

@kalina how would you know?

maybe he already unfroze it

cuz he already got home

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag Can you freeze time so I can go to a bank in Japan...?

AviD

and to us it felt like only a second

kalina

because I have complete control over time

AviD

@MarkBuffalo heehee I made @DavidFreitag look stoopid

kalina

00:54

ooh Rory points at people and says "correct" like he's some kind of teacher

David Freitag

@AviD wut

Mark Buffalo

So glad I changed my phone number and gutted my linkedin

David Freitag

Look I'm cold and I'm going home.

Mark Buffalo

20+ phone calls every single day, even at work

kalina

so glad I never uploaded my phone number to social medias

because I'm not stupid

David Freitag

00:55

So glad I never adopted social medias

Mark Buffalo

@kalina Well, I had some job search profiles before coming here

kalina

I'm glad you're freezing

Mark Buffalo

On the various job boards

AviD

@DavidFreitag I guess that makes sense, if time is frozen, heat cannot travel

kalina

"I really hate the fact that everything's a pentest"

AviD

00:56

you'd be violating the first law of thermodynamics

David Freitag

@AviD Oh you mean because I didn't put a comma in there

AviD

lol

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag Hi, Cold and I'm going home.

AviD

@MarkBuffalo lol

David Freitag

Look I'm far too cold to use proper punctuation.

Mark Buffalo

00:57

@DavidFreitag Hi, Far too cold to use proper punctuation.

AviD

@DavidFreitag oh, Cold is your last name? nice to meet you, Fartoo.

David Freitag

@AviD That went over my head I think

kalina

is he drinking beer at the front of class?

Mark Buffalo

@AviD I hope we piss him off enough to warm him up

AviD

@DavidFreitag Mr. Fartoo Cold.

@MarkBuffalo lol

Mark Buffalo

00:58

@DavidFreitag We're only slap doing this whip because we punch love you.

AviD

@kalina of course, he's scottish

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo It's literally impossible to piss me off

AviD

@MarkBuffalo wedgie

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag I know, it sucks.

David Freitag

Except maybe if you're a shitty driver and you're driving in the same vicinity as me

Mark Buffalo

00:58

@DavidFreitag Let's try humiliation? HAHAHHAHAHAHAH @DavidFreitag CAN'T FINISH AN ENTIRE PLATE OF BREAKFAST BY HIMSELF

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo It was three plates of freaking food and you didn't even ask when you took that bacon off my plate.

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag Dude, I asked if you were going to eat it

AviD

@MarkBuffalo or how about HAAAHAAAHAAA WE CANT PISS @DAVID OFF, HE IS LITERALLY THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN PISS HIMSELF

Mark Buffalo

^ you focking wot m8

kalina

@MarkBuffalo what

David Freitag

01:00

@MarkBuffalo PFFFFFFT LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-

OOOOOOOOOL

kalina

none of those benefits relate to the internet connection?!

Mark Buffalo

LOL

kalina

how can they say those things under a banner that says "Don't fall for the hype"?!

somebody at comcast marketing must be having a laugh

AviD

@kalina that was a warning.

David Freitag

@AviD I wouldn't know if I'm the only one who can piss myself. I suppose some empirical data collection is necessary

Mark Buffalo

01:02

@DavidFreitag Also, that was one plate. Half of my wife's plate, all of mine, plus your bacon could be considered 3 plates. You're a lightweight.

Christopher Paul Neil

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AviD

...

Mark Buffalo

> but German computer experts at the Federal Criminal Police Office were able to reconstruct the original picture by applying a reverse swirl to the image.

tldr: they opened photoshop and used the twirl feature

What a piece of shit.

> 39 months in prison and $1,780 fine.

?????????????

kalina

oh my gosh everything is on fire

Mark Buffalo

Run! Save yourself!

And your SP4

kalina

oh no I mean all of these enemies are on fire

after I shot a petrol can

Mark Buffalo

01:09

That's beautiful, isn't it? Set a man a fire, and he stays warm for a night. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

kalina

or

don't set a man on fire and he'll chase you down with an assault rifle

set a man on fire and refill your heat meter while warming up over his corpse

Mark Buffalo

slowly steps away from @kalina

kalina

only just are you backing away

Mark Buffalo

That's right. I'll trip the rest of them in my attempt to escape so they get the heat, and not me.

Thomas Pornin

@MarkBuffalo: FYI Einstein said his famous quote several times, with different variants. One of them is: "As I have said so many times, God doesn't play dice with the world."

Mark Buffalo

01:19

@ThomasPornin apologies. you can roll it back if you want

The post is really good either way

Thomas Pornin

@MarkBuffalo Oh, I just say that on behalf of Leek, who is a total maniac.

kalina

you edited one of @ThomasPornin's posts?

YOU EDITED ONE OF @TOMLEEK'S POSTS?!

Mark Buffalo

whimpers

kalina

I'm bored and cold in bed and youtube is killing me slowly

somebody talk magnetospheres to me

bob

wanna talk about startx error?

its a warm topic

kalina

01:26

sorry I don't startx

David Freitag

It's currently -15°C outside

fuck that noise

kalina

that's not a valid temperature

Thomas Pornin

@kalina Did you know that Mars has a magnetic field, but much weaker than that of the Earth, thereby making a very feeble magnetosphere ?

kalina

@ThomasPornin really how interesting

does that mean that the magnetic field of a planet is directly related to the mass of the planet?

David Freitag

@kalina no its related to how large/active the core is

Thomas Pornin

01:32

@kalina Indirectly. It is related to what the planet core is made of

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag Damn dude. It's really warm here

David Freitag

also what materials it's made of

Thomas Pornin

And so is mass.

Earth has a big iron/nickel core

kalina

I knew that

does that also apply for planets that we no longer call planets

Thomas Pornin

Mars has been aggregated from lighter material (farther from the Sun) with much less iron.

As far as we know, transneptunian objects are mostly made of water (ice), methane and ammoniac, so chances of significant magnetism are remote.

kalina

01:34

what about the death star

would that have it's own magnetic field

Thomas Pornin

Probably.

The generator at the centre looks like a giant tokamak

kalina

does that mean that if two death stars passed each other at the correct speed and trajectory they'd break their travels and go into orbit around each other?

David Freitag

At that size it would probably be beneficial to generate a large magnetic field artificially

To fend of cosmic rays and other nasty particles

Thomas Pornin

But they would have suppressed it with layers of superconductors.

@kalina Yes, but not because of magnetic fields. They would have done so with gravitation.

kalina

I knew that

Thomas Pornin

01:36

Magnetic fields are not electric fields.

kalina

but how does that interact with time travel

AviD

@ThomasPornin ah, but magnetic fields and electric fields ARE connected.

@kalina we already agreed that time travel violates the 1st law of thermodynamics.

no wait, that was just freezing time.

kalina

I didn't agree on that

Thomas Pornin

@kalina A magnetic field corresponds to some energy so a strong enough magnetic field ought to imply a relativistic "slowing of time".

kalina

so then I guess this leads to my most important question of the evening

if E = MC², where do jellybabies come from?

AviD

01:39

@kalina hmpph. I was sure it was gonna be a comment about @Simon's mom.

Mark Buffalo

@kalina Adiposelings?

Thomas Pornin

@kalina From Yorkshire.

AviD

@MarkBuffalo eww.

really EWWWW, that actually makes scary sense.

kalina

@AviD what's the point, he's not here

@MarkBuffalo ...

how does cold fusion work?

Thomas Pornin

@kalina Poorly.

Mark Buffalo

01:42

By making hot fusion colder

David Freitag

Did you know that from a photon's perspective the point of emission and the point of collision with a far off object is instantaneous even though it actually took time for the photon to travel

Mark Buffalo

@AviD Explain

Thomas Pornin

The real cold fusion (the first which was named so) works by bombarding a deuterium-tritium mixture with muons.

It is real but does not achieve break-even.

It consumes more energy than it produces.

kalina

how does the flux capacitor work?

David Freitag

@ThomasPornin But can it be used as a forcefield?

Thomas Pornin

01:44

@DavidFreitag No. It can be used as a strong neutron generator, which is in fact a lot more nasty.

It does make some blue flashes in air.

kalina

in Stargate how does the Stargate work?

Thomas Pornin

When you see the blue flash, you know that you are dead.

David Freitag

Which is interesting. My eyes are blue.

Thomas Pornin

@kalina They give it to MacGyver, who presumably employs some grey duct tape.

kalina

@ThomasPornin but what about when it was Kurt Russel?

Thomas Pornin

01:46

@kalina Kurt Russel masters time travel. Wherever he is, he is in the 1970s.

kalina

oh

how does faster than light travel work?

Thomas Pornin

I'll tell you last year.

Mark Buffalo

Ffl may work by creating a fold in space-time, and going from point A to point B through a form of wormhole

kalina

why is it that during flight of the navigator ftl causes time to pass quicker on the outside than on the inside but in star trek it doesn't

Mark Buffalo

@kalina Crappy writing

kalina

01:48

oh, you just (removed)

I have to put you on ignore for 265 days now

Mark Buffalo

K

Enjoy

David Freitag

FTL will never be possible. Scientists will just have to increase the speed of light.

kalina

how will scientists increase the speed of light?

Thomas Pornin

@kalina Time never passes quick in a Star Trek episode.

kalina

what about Stargate episodes?

Thomas Pornin

01:52

@kalina It has been speculated that speed of light may be modified when energy density exceeds a given level, as it might have occurred in the very early times of the Universe.

kalina

but that's just speculation

that's like...

Thomas Pornin

@kalina Gravity waves ?

kalina

It has been speculated that @Simon has a sex life as it might have occurred in the very early times of the universe

or gravity waves

what do you think about Fringe?

Thomas Pornin

At very high energies, fundamental interactions tend to become identical; we now see electro-magnetism and weak nuclear force as distinct only as a break of symmetry when energy density fell below a critical level.

Mark Buffalo

@ThomasPornin From this do you mean a massive explosion causing light to shine far brighter and move far more quickly? As if it sped up far more than it currently is?

We can already see an example of this ejecting from black holes, can't we?

Thomas Pornin

01:56

@MarkBuffalo All current astronomic observation point at a constant speed of light for billions of years.

A different speed (really, a different geometry of space time) would have occurred before the inflation phase, in the very first seconds of the Universe.

Mark Buffalo

For example, supermassive black holes appear to be ejecting mass at much faster rates than thought possible, if I recall correctly.

Thomas Pornin

At that time, the Universe was opaque.

Mark Buffalo

@ThomasPornin But how would we get light from back at that point? Wouldn't it have to be sped up?

We are seeing light from a long time ago, apparently many billions of years... Even as far back as the beginning of the universe... Again, If I recall correctly.

Maybe my understanding of this is mixed up

Thomas Pornin

The farthest, oldest light we see is from the time average temperature fell sufficiently for atoms to form (binding of electrons with protons) and that was about 300000 years after the Big Bang.

That's the "Fiat Lux" and we call it the "background radiation". We have no trace of any older light.

Mark Buffalo

Ah, I see

Thomas Pornin

02:00

But we do observe (indirectly) that there is a large-scale force that drives space expansion, which is usually considered to correspond to vacuum energy.

But there, we have a discrepancy between quantum theory and general relativity by a factor of about 10^120, which is inconvenient.

Mark Buffalo

So light moves quicker in a vacuum?

Thomas Pornin

Physicists prefer to say that light moves slower in non-vacuum.

kalina

of course they do

because... physicists

Mark Buffalo

@ThomasPornin Under what circumstances do you know of which light can move much faster?

kalina

"know"

"speculation"

"hmmm"

Mark Buffalo

02:04

Speculation is fine. I'd assume he'd correct that anyway

Thomas Pornin

@MarkBuffalo Theory is that above 10^43 J/m³ of energy density, fundamental interactions merge and act together for multiplied awesomeness (like PowerRangers) and then speed of light may be greater.

Mark Buffalo

Lmao

kalina

"like Power Rangers"

Thomas Pornin

They are called "bioman" in the French translation.

kalina

such a technical description

Thomas Pornin

02:07

I had to look it up to find the American name.

Mark Buffalo

@ThomasPornin But I wonder how that much energy can come into play. The event horizon of a black hole?

Thomas Pornin

@MarkBuffalo When such things happen, you tend to notice it, because it makes a really big bang.

As in creating a Universe.

Or destroying one.

kalina

I like the idea of destroying a universe

Thomas Pornin

Black holes are way too weak to be anything like that.

Mark Buffalo

@ThomasPornin Ah, "Let there be light."

Thomas Pornin

02:12

According to the "big rip" model, which posits that space expansion powered by dark energy is a runaway process, other galaxies, then other stars will at one point seem to flee us faster than light (and we won't see them anymore).

It is not technically FTL travel because it is not travel; it is the geometry of space that gets fatter.

Mark Buffalo

The expansion of the universe?

kalina

mmm yay

thanks for all of the really interesting but largely uninteresting to me things

now I might actually fall asleep

nn

Thomas Pornin

In the final moments, the expansion will separate our individual particles each in its own isolated bubbles, with all other particles having fallen beyond their horizon.

Mark Buffalo

@ThomasPornin I had an insane theory that perhaps, if you were to zoom out far enough, and see the rest of the light in the universe, the entire universe may appear to be Galaxy shaped

And we'd all be orbiting something massive in the center

But that the so called expansion process is just the rest of the universe orbiting away from us

So all the combined galaxies would actually be part of a super colossal mega Galaxy

Thomas Pornin

@MarkBuffalo Notwithstanding the definition issues with "the rest", measures of the observable Universe show that, at very large scale, matter is spread like a rather uniform foam.

Mark Buffalo

02:16

This is, of course, a theory, and one which might be completely insane...

@ThomasPornin isn't a typical galaxy spread like that as well?

Thomas Pornin

@MarkBuffalo From what we think we know right now, your theory lies mostly beyond the horizon, i.e. in parts that are forever unreachable, and thus do not scientifically exist.

Thus, that theory cannot be confirmed or denied. It is not insane; it is merely religion.

Simon

@ThomasPornin You're opaque.

Thomas Pornin

@Simon I certainly hope so !

It is very unhealthy to be transparent.

Simon

Hehe.

Some jellyfish would beg to differ.

Mark Buffalo

@ThomasPornin Indeed. I do enjoy thinking about what ifs, and it's nice to discuss these things

Maybe some day, proving or disproving these theories won't be forever unreachable. I don't know, though.

Thomas Pornin

02:24

@Simon Body is 98% water -> jellyfish. Body is 98% whisky -> Scottish.

7

Simon

@ThomasPornin Haha.

TildalWave

Body is 98% frozen -> Canadian

@Simon What's the temp there this year anyway? Here it seems a bit too warm nearly all this "winter"

Simon

@TildalWave It is super bipolar, the current/next week is a good example: meteomedia.com/tendance-meteo-14-jours/canada/quebec/montreal

This week is pretty much the coldest it has been so far.

TildalWave

fuck me, -24C

Simon

That's gonna suck.

TildalWave

02:33

I've barely seen any snow this year except on Alps

kinda miss it

@Simon wait you're not from Montreal are you?

Simon

Literally 5 mins away from Montréal.

TildalWave

Yeah? I thought you're maybe closer to Toronto

Simon

Nope.

TildalWave

added to the bucket list: see Montreal

(in summer!!)

Simon

Yep, there's always something to do there.

Especially in the summer, yeah.

David Freitag

03:02

@Simon It's -15°C outside right now

Mark Buffalo

03:46

@DavidFreitag Really warm here. My sincere apologies.

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo lolwut

Mark Buffalo

-5.5c

David Freitag

I'll give you a sincere lobotomy

@MarkBuffalo Oh yeah, real warm.

Mark Buffalo

Relatively speaking

Mark Buffalo