The DMZ

Mark Buffalo

00:08

Really?

Perhaps my view is too simplistic

Ohnana

@DavidFreitag HNNNG

David Freitag

@Ohnana ( ͡↑ ͜ʖ ͡↑)

Mark Buffalo

I remember when Gabe Newell tricked Valve's hacker into coming to America under the false premise of a job offer

and he got arrested by the FBI on arrival, lol.

Ohnana

@MarkBuffalo OMFG

wired.com/2008/11/valve-tricked-h

^^ he didn't get arrested

they tried tho

Mark Buffalo

Ah... I remembered it wrong

Rory Alsop

00:15

@MarkBuffalo these hackers have already proven they have no respect for some rules - how would you ever trust them?

Ohnana

@RoryAlsop people change

Rory Alsop

more importantly for me - how would my clients trust them

@Ohnana tricky to prove though, eh

Ohnana

being on the run can get exhausting -- and someone's skills don't evaporate when you go legit

@RoryAlsop good point. i have to hide the fact that i'm still in college from clients or else they get tetchy

skittish little things

Rory Alsop

@Ohnana true - but in most companies I have ever worked (possibly all) that barrier is insurmountable

Ohnana

@MarkBuffalo WAT

Rory Alsop

00:17

@MarkBuffalo really?

Mark Buffalo

<= has respect for rules, even if I like to break things

@RoryAlsop Yeah, it was awful.

Ohnana

fuck respect for rules, if i'm hacking shit you're paying me for it

do i look like the guy who works for free

Mark Buffalo

lol

Well that's illegal

Ohnana

that too. SoW or GTFO

Rory Alsop

@MarkBuffalo not tempted to collect evidence and take it to the police?

Mark Buffalo

00:20

(you can respond, I'm just removing this stuff lol)

Ohnana

not a prob

at least you did the right thing

Rory Alsop

@MarkBuffalo I heartily approve

Mark Buffalo

@Ohnana LinkedIn msg

:b

@RoryAlsop Yeah. Breaking things is fine. Intentionally committing felonies is not

Ohnana

yes associate the topic with your professional acct

also two email accounts is going to be a pain for the forseeable future

Mark Buffalo

Never really understood blackhattery, honestly

People work hard to create things, and there are people who want to destroy it. Breaking their security and showing them how to fix it, without destroying anything or causing any kind of loss, is totally different

Ohnana

00:24

@MarkBuffalo why do people crush sandcastles

the urge to destroy is as strong as the urge to create

there's a reason why krishna and shiva are avatars of the same deity

Mark Buffalo

@RoryAlsop Not only that, but having a desire to harm others is just as bad

Journeyman Geek

....

are not

Ohnana

@JourneymanGeek please correct me

Journeyman Geek

In theory, the trinity is part of the the 'greater whole'

but everything is

Braumah is the creator. He's a bit of a self centered ass who needs to be brought down to earth.

Mark Buffalo

@Ohnana never had the urge to hurt anyone

Journeyman Geek

00:28

Vishnu is the protector, and sort of the patron deity of this particular universe. Krishna is one of 10 avatars of him, and the avatars sort of are an allegory of life as a whole.

Ohnana

i see

Journeyman Geek

Shiva is the destroyer, but he also dances the dance of creation. He enables the cycle of renewal

(The avatars are basically a fish, then a turtle, then a boar, a pygmy, a few humans... )

Rory Alsop

@JourneymanGeek and a partridge in a pear tree

Journeyman Geek

And any force can be turned to evil or stupid. Our dinosaur myth is that the creator made them without praying to ganesha and he goofed.

Rory Alsop

(see what I did there again)

Journeyman Geek

00:31

@RoryAlsop interestingly there's no avian avatar

Or airbenders

Rory Alsop

lol

Journeyman Geek

Also, I'm vaguely related to the avatar who's an ~~airbender~~ axemurderer.

Mark Buffalo

@RoryAlsop LOL. That song is known in Scotland?

Rory Alsop

@MarkBuffalo erm...yeah, we are next to England, you know

It has had a few hundred years to percolate north of the border

Mark Buffalo

Ah, I thought it was an American thing :b

Rory Alsop

00:39

The Twelve Days of Christmas (song)

"The Twelve Days of Christmas" is an English Christmas carol that enumerates in the manner of a cumulative song a series of increasingly grand gifts given on each of the twelve days of Christmas (the twelve days after Christmas). The song, published in England in 1780 without music as a chant or rhyme, is thought to be French in origin. "The Twelve Days of Christmas" has a Roud Folk Song Index number of 68. The tunes of collected versions vary. The standard tune now associated with it is derived from a 1909 arrangement of a traditional folk melody by English composer Frederic Austin, who first...

English - published in 1780

wrong link :-)

Mark Buffalo

Lol...

what the fuck

You're CIA!

Rory Alsop

(don't ask why I was searching the CIA)

bizarrely, it was to answer a question on another Stack Exchange site

Ohnana

00:51

@RoryAlsop wtg noob

this is why you don't work for the NSA

Steve DL

01:01

0

Q: Master's in cyber security options

So I've recently resolved to earn my Master's degree. I'm aware of a couple programs that meet my needs, but I wanted to see what people thought, if there are better programs out there. Quick background, I'm 33 with a BS in Computer Science Engineering. I'm employed full time at a research compa...

professional-education

Loud sigh.

I want to flog this user for not proposing UCL as their first choice. Cough cough.

Ohnana

lol i'm doing a combined masters bachelors

(KILL ME NOW)

Steve DL

@Iszi was reading your comm on the Cormac paper, you guys went WAAAAAAY off-topic right after. Lesbian dinosaurs really!?

Ohnana

welcome to the DMZ, there is no topic and no one can hear you scream

3

Steve DL

but what it says is just that if a security measure has a human cost it must be justified. The actual cost/benefit calculation depends on the context / tech / interactions of course. Very similar to the general principles from the Beautement paper called "Compliance budget"

@Ohnana I dont even know what that is.

Ohnana

@SteveDL what do you mean?

Steve DL

01:04

your course

Simon

@Ohnana THE PLACE WHERE YOU CAN HEAR BADASS INDUSTRIAL TECHNO TOO!

Paula Temple - Colonized [Perc Metal mix]

►

Do not click it if you're a pussy.

Ohnana

so i'm in school for 5 years. when i graduate I will have: a bachelor's degree, a master's degree, and at least 2 6 mos. internships

Steve DL

that sounds standard to me?

Ohnana

really?

are you in the USA?

Steve DL

Well this is virtually the European standard

UK apart obviously

Ohnana

01:05

oh, that's why

college here is 4 years

and master's is at least another two

Simon

ok bye

Steve DL

with Bologna you study 5 years, and normally have at least one 5 months internship though most unis will push for additional internships nowadays, so you should get 8-10 months of it

Ohnana

@Simon WTF is this, it sounds like someone alternately tickling and smashing a garbage can

Steve DL

open.spotify.com/track/69G9C5hpuaf6C3tNiWEalT here, better.

Mark Buffalo

01:22

@Simon That counts me out

Iszi

@SteveDL Welcome to the course. I generally go for Eagle, but Par will do from time to time.

@RoryAlsop You've heard the 12 pains, right?

Ohnana

@MarkBuffalo yeah, i am good on all that thanks

do not want

Mark Buffalo

Har har

I don't blame you

Simon

01:47

@Ohnana I'd rave all night to this track.

David Freitag

03:42

@Simon The fuck is that

Ohnana

@DavidFreitag ikr

> Other: I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is a blatant attempt to cheat. Please e-mail us the address of the TA so that we could reply directly.

WHO SAID THIS

I want to give you hugs c:

@DeerHunter I love you for this

Mark Buffalo

04:17

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Q: Awesome Treatments Available To Treat Anti Aging

Water is a thing for every human appearing. I'm dumb. Many people who choose to drink the tap water in their houses will be ingesting such as fluoride, chlorine, and other chemicals which aren't necessarily perfect your body and create the water taste quite strange. Water is beneficial for giving...

passwords

vtc downvote annihilate flag

Neil Smithline

too funny @Ohnana - just came to tell @DeerHunter that this was the best reason to close ever and saw that you had reference to it - It's on security.stackexchange.com/questions/112474/…

Mark Buffalo

I edited out the spam link and replaced the product names with, "I'm dumb."

Journeyman Geek

04:33

meh

Don't

having the posts pristine trains the spamfilter

Mark Buffalo

05:15

@Ohnana Awakies?

David Freitag

@SteveDL What's wrong with lesbian dinosaurs?

TildalWave

they went extinct?

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag

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Q: What is the safest way to store passwords in a company?

What is the best and safest way to store passwords in a company. I know this might be subjective and there isn't THE best way. But I'm curious about your approach. The scenario is: The person responsible for IT has to manage a lot of passwords for servers and third-party services. It would be ba...

passwords password-management

David Freitag

Wooo new oglaf. oglaf.com/perjury Very NSFW

Mark Buffalo

Do you think I went a little overboard with that post?

David Freitag

05:21

cc:\ @Ohnana

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag What a perv!

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo pls

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag I mean the woman, not you.

But yes, you are a perv as well. Vertperv.

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo There's nothing perverted about ball gags and gimp suits.

2

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag randomly browsing the comic. this is so fucked up

Journeyman Geek

05:34

oglaf is pretty notorious

David Freitag

05:44

I ♥ Oglaf

Rоry McCune

08:51

@MarkBuffalo yeah oglaf is, from what I've read, about as NSFW as you can make a webcomic (BTW this isn't a opening for people to suggest more NSFW webcomics)

Journeyman Geek

;p

kalina

09:11

euuuuuuuuuuuuggggggggggghhhhhhhhh

o sorry I didn't remember how many people are not here at this time of day

Matthew

Do I count as people?

kalina

I don't know you and I'm not good with new people

I hate life, I'm going to go sleep my misery away

Rоry McCune

@kalina you're back in the land of rain and cold aren't you?

Matthew

Sounds like a good plan

I would get fired if I did that though, since it's only 9:20 am

kalina

@RоryMcCune no I'm back from a day of modelling and getting my morales fundamentally violated

Rоry McCune

09:23

@kalina modelling, this a new career addition?

kalina

no

yes, it was supposed to be

I don't know why I ever thought it was a good idea

Rоry McCune

@kalina well I guess it sounds quite straight forward to do, but from the limited amount I know about it, it sounds like a lot of work

kalina

oh no, it's no effort at all, you just do exactly what you're asked.

which I can't do

Rоry McCune

@kalina lolz, I see

kalina

I'm not laughing :(

I'm quite close to crying

I've never felt like this much of an idiot in my entire life

Rоry McCune

09:27

@kalina ahh sorry, I was just seeing how you may react badly to micro-management

given that you're used to having creative control

must be hard to cede that to another person

kalina

it's not even that

the entire experience was highly degrading

Rоry McCune

you end up feeling like an object to be posed rather than a person?

kalina

yep

that's how I was treated

Rоry McCune

yeuch, yeah that would suck

kalina

two guys standing talking about me like I'm an object

Rоry McCune

09:32

urgh, that's not nice

the fashion industry does seem a bit de-humanising

kalina

and no, I'm not home

but for the first time in a long time that's where I want to be right now

Rоry McCune

@kalina yeah not fun being a long way from home when nasty stuff happens :(

kalina

09:54

at least I have you guys to cry to when everybody else is unavailable

now I really am going to sleep though because today has sucked balls and I can't be bothered tolerating it any further

Rоry McCune

sleep is good!

Adi

11:51

So I just saw this

Sugar Baby University Campus Tour by SeekingArrangement

►

(Somewhat NSFW)

Rоry McCune

@Adi yeah I can tell from the title that that's unlikely to be SFW.. is it a spoof or someone seriously suggesting that?

Adi

I thought "Hahaha.. that's some well produced satair"

Rоry McCune

@Adi oh god it's not real is it?

Adi

Yep

Rоry McCune

... oh dear

Adi

11:52

Basically, a hooking up service where rich people agree to pay money to young attractive people

to buy stuff

to go to school

to pay debts

etc

Rоry McCune

FFS

well I guess consenting adults and all that

but still, eww

Adi

12:10

I don't know, man. If I were young, attractive, and stupid, I'd love to have someone spend on me

Sadly, I'm only one of the above

Rоry McCune

@Adi hey hey, you're not that stupid really :op

yeah I can see the appeal, knowing what college costs in the US but that's still a pretty smegged up thing that people have to do to get an education

AviD

@Adi are... are they jogging in high heels??

@RоryMcCune true, but also not as bad or whorey as some of the other more mainstream things.

Rоry McCune

12:29

@AviD what were you thinking of that's mainstream and worse?

Mark Buffalo

Danielle - you must disclose your affiliation when posting answers like this. Your company owning LastPass is a bit different to using LastPass — Rory Alsop ♦ 4 hours ago

@RoryAlsop How do you know?

kalina

so much for sleeping

Simon

o

Rоry McCune

o?

Simon

Watch lads, I'll type an upside down M:

W

fkin_sorcery

TildalWave

12:40

so this is what all those millions of years of human evolution boil down to

Rоry McCune

seems so

TildalWave

@Adi dunno, I'd pay to see you in high heels :)

Simon

Ain't no evolution without a revolution.

does the pls dance

Rory Alsop

12:54

@MarkBuffalo a smart person did some research that I could check and popped it in a flag :-)

Simon

@RoryAlsop Was it me?!?

Mark Buffalo

@RoryAlsop Anything you can share?

Rory Alsop

> a smart person ...

Adi

@TildalWave Well, you don't need to pay. Wait a few hours until I'm home

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Simon

O PLS RORO

Rory Alsop

12:56

(rekt, right?)

Adi

Horror will be delivered here to the DMZ.. for free

Mark Buffalo

I reverse searched her image, looked up the affiliated company, etc

@Adi lol, please dont!!!

Adi

@MarkBuffalo Shssshhh.. nothing can stop this.

Mark Buffalo

Alright, fine

@RoryAlsop lol

Adi

Awwwh.. I feel bad for Danielle

All she wanted was to look good in front of her boss promoting the product

Simon

12:59

@Adi Because she got rekt like roro rekt me?

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