The DMZ

David Freitag

00:28

Wow an inductorless step-up/step-down converter... wooo fancy...

Can someone tell me the size of their nmap binary?

James

01:07

@DavidFreitag 2.3M, 6.40

David Freitag

@James Hm, ok. Thanks!

James

@DavidFreitag granted, that's installed via the package manager.

there are other files that nmap provides.

David Freitag

@James Is that gui or a cli utility binary?

James

@DavidFreitag CLI

@DavidFreitag I didn't install zenmap

David Freitag

Alrighty, thanks :D

James

01:08

Not much point, that machine doesn't run X

Why, you run into a modified binary or something?

David Freitag

I'm making an embedded flash drive-sized network scanner and I'm wondering how difficult a direct port of nmap will be

James

Ah, neat.

Simon

01:40

DOVID DOVID DOVID I FOUND ANOTHER DISTORTED GIF

But it's NSFW so here: 24.media.tumblr.com/4cf5731ccb7f8c5a855323469ae502ea/…

ok bye

David Freitag

@Simon Why is that NSFW? lol

Mark Hulkalo

02:24

Sweet

I walked through an area in Fallout 4

On the other side, I saw an awesome thing

A Blue screen of death.

Simon

@DavidFreitag pls cocaine

Mark Hulkalo

Save game corrupted

nothing plays anymore

David Freitag

@MarkHulkalo That's dicks, shoulda backed up

Xander

02:42

Sigh Why do people who have no idea what they're talking about always want to argue with me in the comments? I don't mind the arguing, but if you're going to tell me what's up, you might take the time to figure out if you have any clue about the subject at hand first. Making crap up because it makes sense as long as you don't know any better isn't an acceptable alternative. \

Mark Hulkalo

@Xander This is pretty much life

Mark Hulkalo

03:26

@DavidFreitag Yeah I'm not really in the habit of backing up things that aren't too important :p

At least I save often. 2 minutes prior

David Freitag

@MarkHulkalo Not important... right...

Mark Hulkalo

03:53

npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/12/08/458959437/…

More dead U.S. soldiers will come at the hands of that idiocy.

:/

This really pisses me off

AviD

07:56

@Xander I was just ranting about that yesterday, too.

hahahaha @Simon that guy.... besides the clueless, now he's on Appeal to Clueless Authority.

> After all, he is a Twitter employee so he must have authority when he speaks about programming.

what's next, claiming that Facebook coders are elite developers?

Rоry McCune

09:07

Morning All

kalina

09:39

@Xander pls encryption that can be decrypted at will exclusively by the authorities and is not open to abuse by any other third parties is a technical problem and you're just not trying hard enough </nsa>

kalina

09:53

I think you should be aware that I feel very sleepy

Rory Alsop

You are feeling sleepy

You are eaten by a grue

kalina

Rocks fall, everyone dies

I'm thinking I need a magical world full of elves and whatnot to escape to

Rory Alsop

I'm sitting opposite an elf today. She has ears and a hat and everything

kalina

yay for elves

but no I mean more like I need an experience similar to the first time I played Diablo 2

although I imagine those memories are distorted by childish wonder and nostalgia

so maybe I need a game more like Fallout but actually more like Skyrim

Rory Alsop

From playing both, Skyrim and Fallout are pretty much the same game :-)

kalina

10:06

yes but different contexts

one is post war with guns and the other has magic and dragons

Arperum

@kalina All the Nostalgia. I wish I could rediscover that game like I did back then, and then roll into the modded communities again. That was awesome.

Rory Alsop

10:50

magic and dragons and guns

Arperum

11:11

Magic guns that fire dragons?

Rory Alsop

magic dragons that fire guns?

Arperum

Dragon magic that guns fire?

AviD

Magic dragon gun. You're fired.

We'll be trying a lot of things, we really dont know what's going on.

But I've made billions of dollars against China, so their dragons are losers.

kalina

11:27

I wish yesterday was tomorrow, because then today would be Friday

said nobody ever

AviD

12:00

if yesterday was tomorrow, wouldnt that make today Tuesday?

Rоry McCune

12:16

more temporal stuff this morning I see, just reminding me I've got a whole 15 days to wait for the next doctor who!

I did my first bit of (very) basic car maintenance today, changed a headlamp bulb!

somewhat easier than I thought it would be, although that was after watching a youtube vid on how it was done.

kalina

@AviD well obv it's not sunday

Simon

@AviD Where is that?!?

AviD

@Simon those comments

Simon

Oh the same idiot!

Nice, got some catching up to do.

AviD

ayup

Simon

12:31

Wow, he quotes the guy and fails to understand that his statement is only right if the hashing algorithm is slow.

But duuuuude, you're using MD5 so nope.jpg.

AviD

@Simon did you catch that he is appending salt after the hash?

Simon

@AviD OH NOOOOO

AviD

personally I think that is like super cool.

hipsterhash.

Simon

Please tell me that's not what he's doing for real.

AviD

@Simon but that appeal to authority was just super amusing, besides misunderstanding it.

"He actually HAS a job! as a PROGRAMMER! In a REAL COMPANY! He must really know what he's doing!"

Simon

12:33

but pls ovid it's a twitter employee

AviD

@Simon oh yes, follow those comments. there was sometihing that didnt make sense in his post, that actually explains it.

Simon

That must be because he's not an actual security engineer at twatter

OH NOOO

LOOK WHAT HE HAS POSTED NOW

-2

Q: Can you decrypt this encrypted password?

I'm coding a social network so I need to get serious about security as people will be sharing personal information on my site. Can you decrypt this encrypted password? eb188ccb1d24f4b8275a110472a6173d

He's a "coding a social network"

o pls

AviD

@Simon he needs to get serious.

Simon

He needs to read every single article on OWASP.

AviD

@Simon I think I shouldnt have deleted my mean comment.

Simon

12:43

@AviD Yeah now that we know that he's a lost cause, it was more than appropriate.

AviD

pls, we knew it then right away. I deleted it because of the "Be Nice" rule, regardless of how clueless he is.

Simon

I thought he'd be the kind of individual who's willing to learn and understands that other people on the site are most-likely more educated on the topic than himself.

I was dumb.

cries

AviD

Simon

lulz rekt

Oh wow, is he now encrypting passwords to attempt to use his session ID stupidity in a "safer" way?

AviD

@Simon yes, he needs to get serious about security.

Simon

13:01

The password is hashed. I used WolframAlpha to generate it. — desbest 2 mins ago

??????????????????????????????????????????????

WHY ARE YOU ENCRYPTING IT YOU MONG

So I should use bcrypt? — desbest 6 mins ago

IT TOOK YOU A WHOLE DAY TO GET THIS?

kalina

you know how you feel right now, dealing with somebody who doesn't get it?

Simon

OMG OVID PLS I'M THIS CLOSE OF GETTING A STUPIDITY OVERFLOW

kalina

that's how we feel talking to you

Simon

o pls

kalina

:))

AviD

13:10

@Simon is that where you get so stupid, you wrap around and start thinking you're smart?

Simon

@AviD I'm pretty sure that is precisely the case, yes.

Jonathan Musso

yo

Simon

g-unit

Jonathan Musso

lol

Simon

I used to listen to this crap :(

Dark times, dark times.

Jonathan Musso

13:13

how goes

Simon

Good, yourself?

Jonathan Musso

good good

AviD

^ typical conversation right before awkwardly asking for a big favor

;-)

Simon

pls ovid be nice to the fellow Canaduhian.

Jonathan Musso

so um, do you think you could help me with some code?

no avid wtf

Simon

13:15

Bahaha.

Jonathan Musso

lol

AviD

hahaha

Simon

Hey ovid, if you grow a D, you become dovid.

Jonathan Musso

brb

AviD

Simon

13:17

:D

Yesterday, I saw a car with a huuuge banner on the roof that said "Happy Chanukah"

I was like pls ovid

Jonathan Musso

lol

JukEboX

Good Morning gang. Good Afternoon @kalina

Rory Alsop

I got fed up with the mess that guy is leaving and decided to do some cleaning up

comments across to a chat room

Rоry McCune

@JukEboX it's only afternoon in kalina-land?

Simon

@RoryAlsop Good call.

JukEboX

13:31

From now on I am going to just say HI

Rory Alsop

Afternoon @Juke

JukEboX

Good <insert day time> everyone.

Rоry McCune

@JukEboX hi!

Simon

@JukEboX undefined

Rоry McCune

@JukEboX just go with whatever time it is in the one true timezone of truth that is UTC

JukEboX

13:33

$x = NOW();
$greeting = "Welcome ".$x." everyone.";
echo $greeting;

Run that where you are

Simon

You should improve the readability by spacing your concatenations.

kalina

@JukEboX it's evening

Simon

lulz

JukEboX

@Simon my code my rules

Simon

@JukEboX My insanity due to maintaining your code, my murdering of you.

JukEboX

13:36

@Simon you haven't got the guts

Simon

I'd argue that this is not a matter of guts but more of not being a psychopath.

JukEboX

Kudos for remaining sane.

Am I the only American in here right now?

Rоry McCune

@JukEboX continental america or the policital region known as the USA?

JukEboX

American Citizen

I posted last night that I was pretty embarrassed for all of us last night for the BS going on.

kalina

@JukEboX

declare @now datetime = getdate();select 'Good ' + case when datepart(hh,@now) < 14 then 'morning' when datepart(hh,@now) < 17 then 'afternoon' when datepart(hh,@now) < 21 then 'evening' else 'night' end + ' everybody!'

Simon

13:41

@kalina That's dedication.

kalina

I'm only assuming it's right, I have nothing to run it against

Rory Alsop

@JukEboX - so, has Trumpton ruled himself out of running for Prez?

JukEboX

@RoryAlsop Negative. If he doesn't get the Republican nomination he says he will run as an Independent.

That will most likely mean Hiliary will win

It bothers me that people won't get off their ass and do some homework to see what other options are out there. I did last 2 elections and I felt better about my vote even though my guy didn't win.

You should only make a vote for someone you will feel right about not because they are the lesser of 2 evils.

To be honest if I were to pick a Republican to race I think the only one worth it is Cristy

Steve DL

hey everyone, got a moderation-related question. this post security.stackexchange.com/questions/107490/… alleges that the French govt has plans to block Tor, which is factually incorrect. How should I report / edit the question to make it factual?

AviD

@JukEboX you should only vote if you believe the system functions properly.

Simon

13:50

@SteveDL Sorry, we cannot help those who ABANDONED US.

AviD

@SteveDL go ahead and edit,. Emphasize that wrt France it is an unfounded rumour, though it might be true elsewhere. The question as is still stands, irrelevant of what the French decide to do.

Steve DL

@Simon sorry i was here the whole time because I had PHP code to write and needed moral support

Simon

lulz

Steve DL

(more seriously, im running a study, working 90h a week and too tired to maintain my usual social networks)

@AviD yeah that's what I had in mind

JukEboX

Well gotta get to work. Back in a bit.

Simon

13:52

pls we're not a social network, we're family

AviD

@SteveDL 90 hours a week, what are you on early holidays?

Simon

Holidays?

Steve DL

@AviD i know right i'm such a slacker

Simon

wot

AviD

@SteveDL despicable.

what do you do with all that free time?

@Simon well then I'll tell you the same thing I tell my real family (I mean my siblings and inlaws, not my wife and kids):

(yeah I found a whole stash of Red Forman memes!)

(fits my cranky)

Rоry McCune

13:57

Steve DL

I do French politics, duh.

AviD

@RоryMcCune ooh I need a pile of Dr.Cox memes next.

Simon

@AviD That's very true.

Steve DL

@Simon FTR i keep an eye on Linux questions even though I dont have time to moderate :-)

Simon

@SteveDL That's because Linux is love, Linux is life.

Steve DL

14:14

also because it's kinda my job ;p

Simon

KEEPING YOUR EYE ON LINUX QUESTIONS IS YOUR JOB?!?!?

Steve DL

Keeping up to date with Linux sec is part of my job

unfortunately i dont have such a nice job

i have to do work too

Simon

o

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kalina

15:01

o

6

Rory Alsop

o

7

kalina

o

8

Rory Alsop

15:18

o

9

Ohnana

o

9

Rоry McCune

o

10

Mark Hulkalo

o

8

Wow, I got starred. I feel so important.

Allow me to rant a little. WTF is with continuous string passing. String something = "derp"; string err = something; string cheese = err; string[] zisha = err.split('/'); WTF are you doing

Whycome you are send me on a wild goose chase m8

Ohnana

@MarkHulkalo i believe that's a case of "whoops all my variable names are fucked up, let's not bother fixing it and just make it compile"

Simon

@MarkHulkalo Nice combobreaker asshole.

Mark Hulkalo

15:29

@Ohnana Precisely.

@Simon You're welcome.

@Ohnana Code is littered with this stuff. Km deleting everything and reproducing it's output. Can't be bothered

Rory Alsop

@RоryMcCune I'm sitting opposite an elf you may recognise

Mark Hulkalo

Is that you, @RoryAlsop?

Rory Alsop

No. That's a lady elf

Ohnana

@MarkHulkalo there ya go

Simon

WHO DAT ELF

Mark Hulkalo

15:36

I don't remember if @RoryAlsop Is a guy or a girl. This seems like a good time to ask. What are you?

Simon

-.-

Ever met a female Rory? Well, today is not the day.

WAIT

Mark Hulkalo

Yes I have. Hence why I thought it was a girl's name.

Simon

Every time I try to be an asshole to Markus, it turns out that I fail miserably.

Rory Alsop

I guess my avatar does make it tricky - the mask is mildly androgynous

Simon

I will keep on trying though.

Ohnana

15:37

@MarkHulkalo alsop is a rock god

Rory Alsop

I have never met a female Rory, but google has indicated to me that they exist.

Mark Hulkalo

@Simon Very few things anger me. Feel free to let out your pain as needed. I am here for you.

Simon

@MarkHulkalo Shut up.

Mark Hulkalo

@RoryAlsop Never met a male Rory. I didn't know it was a guy's name.

Simon

o pls

Ohnana

15:40

omg it's a unisex name. chill yall

Mark Hulkalo

Well, not until here. Then there was the Dr. Who guy... and I thought he was unfortunate for having a girl's name. Then I kept hearing about male Rory's and just assumed it was an androgynous name or something m

Ohnana

reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/3w3f44/no

Simon

pls ohnuhnuh I don't reddit at work.

Journeyman Geek

lol

@MarkHulkalo better than Ashley

Mark Hulkalo

It's like parents naming their son Tracy, Morgan, Jaeden

And Ashley...

Simon

15:41

That's an American thing though.

Rory Alsop

23

A: The Memes of Information Security

Rory As you've already mentioned, Rory has become a bit of a meme within the IT Security StackExchange community. Usage of this meme often takes the form of word substitution a-la "smurf". Usage Examples: Jeff Ferland: It's a quite a rory of a problem, really Ninefingers: At a g...

Simon

Silly Americans.

Rory Alsop

Especially the Rory Williams gif at the bottom

Mark Hulkalo

But Rory is starting to look different to me. I apologize for my ignorance. I will bestow 40 lashes upon me in your honor.

Rory Alsop

Think we have 4 Rories here - 2 regular visitors, 1 occasional and 1 once

@Mark - needing an excuse for self-flagellation? that's rare here :-)

Journeyman Geek

15:43

@MarkHulkalo My dog was an ashley

We renamed him

Iszi

@RoryAlsop Actual female Rories, or Whovian cross-players?

Ohnana

@RoryAlsop "it's thursday!"

Mark Hulkalo

@RoryAlsop That's my fetish.gif

@JourneymanGeek And you're not even American. Horrid.

Simon

His dog is the silliest dog of all time anyway.

Look at its face.

Rory Alsop

@Iszi - the google search ended up being NSFW. They were definitely female

Mark Hulkalo

15:45

@RoryAlsop Link it, so I can get in trouble. Spice up my work life

Iszi

@RoryAlsop I mean, are the females actually Rories?

Ohnana

lawl

Mark Hulkalo

No, don't. Don't actually do that. :(

Rory Alsop

@Iszi - I didn't ask them if they were lying about their names, if that's what you mean

@Mark - I don't need to link it. You could type it in to google yourself: Rory Glamour Shot. There, that'll do it. Lol

Simon

I have a a philosophical question that could spark a discussion:

Would you bang a Rory?

pls I failed

Mark Hulkalo

15:50

I picture all Rorys to be redheaded females

And I'm married. So no, I wouldn't bang a Rory

Simon

o pls those questions are hypothetical.

Steve DL

@Simon what those questions should be is unformulated.

Simon

wot

You're unformulated.

Mark Hulkalo

All I ask for is a bathroom with taller stall walls. I dislike turning my head while urinating and making eye contact with a toilet denizen

Awkward

Simon

That's what you get for living the giant life.

Iszi

15:57

@RoryAlsop Related: Why the hell does an American company put the "u" in that?

Mark Hulkalo

@Iszi They work with stiff-assed Brits.

Ohnana

@MarkHulkalo what the fuuuck

are you like 6 ft tall?

Iszi

@Simon Hm. In a game of FMK, I'd probably put 'em in M. Unless there's actually legit females out there. Then F.

Steve DL

@Iszi when English speakers want to give a positive emphasis on something related to culture or body image they use French words :p

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