The DMZ

kalina

12:00

sure, what could be worse than hanging around with a bunch of people who really want to give you a sweaty hug while smashed off their faces for the camera

and you're being paid to not say no

Rоry McCune

@kalina I'm sure that's not the only experience at a club.. anyway don't you get to be in the VIP room or similar

away from the proles

kalina

sure, you get to wander anywhere in a club with a performer pass

kinda defeats the purpose of what you're selling if you're completely invisible though

Rоry McCune

@kalina sounds like you need some large bodyguard types to hover round you and project an aura of "don't mess with the talent"

kalina

it's very rare anything actually dangerous happens in a night club

which is ironic, a bit

Rоry McCune

@kalina no but you could put them on "no sweaty huggie people" duty

kalina

12:04

well that's the dilemma isn't it

random person approaches you and gives you a sweaty hug, that person later goes home and follows you on twitter/facebook

random person approaches you can gets taken out by security, that person doesn't doesn't go home to follow you on twitter and facebook

M'vy

@kalina absolutely not sure :))

Rоry McCune

@kalina tricky curse of performing types I guess

kalina

indeed, showing more tolerance than I'd like about a lot of things

Rory Alsop

@kalina that seems quite reasonable. Nice!

And by 'nice' I mean much better than 'good' obviously

kalina

that was an example number that does not in any way reflect my actual finances

I wouldn't want to give you more information than is required

Rоry McCune

12:15

heh

Lighty

12:36

hey

@RoryAlsop @AviD etc.

why don't you guys have a shit flag yet?

-1

A: After getting doxxed, how can one protect personally identifiable information?

What to Do After Search ? Imagine you found a content with your info like a picture on Flickr that got indexed in Google. All You Have to do is to Contact the person who uploaded the content and ask them to remove it, If you didn't get respond in 3 days you could ask the Website, After deleting ...

this is hillarious

kalina

no

Simon

@kalina That is literally the most insulting you can be to me.

Terry Chia

@Simon pls

kalina

@Simon literally the most insulting?

are you certain?

that sounds like a challenge

Rоry McCune

@kalina of course it's a challenge, what else could it be

Simon

12:49

o pls all

Morning donuting should be forbidden.

kalina

but I don't want to actively search for @Simon's weakness :|

Terry Chia

@Simon Sounds kinky.

Is that a Canadian sex act?

kalina

@Simon is that a euphemism?

Simon

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Rоry McCune

@kalina well you can always just admit you're not up to the challenge

kalina

12:50

@RоryMcCune I am of course completely capable of the challenge

in fact, calling it a challenge is insulting

Rоry McCune

@kalina I shall be interested to see what you come up with

kalina

but I do not wish to reduce @Simon to mushy sadness that may leave

Rоry McCune

@kalina I'm going to suggest that his response to this would/will be "pls"

Simon

lps

kalina

well @Simon is on the list of people I would hug if I met

at least once, since that's the number of times it would take for him to do something to upset me

Simon

12:53

hugs hey, nice ass gurl

kalina

^

Rоry McCune

@Simon have you ever heard of not confirming a stereotype...

Simon

stereowat

CodesInChaos

@Simon Using two type writers at the same time.

kalina

@Simon stereophonic

Simon

12:55

Ah. Why wouldn't I want to confirm stereo typing roro?

That sounds pretty badass, man.

kalina

...the recording of you saying wat with two microphones

M'vy

That's funny you have such lists :)

Simon

slaps gurly asses all ova da place

AAAWWWW YUUUUUUH

I'M A MAN WITH A WEEN

kalina

@M'vy not really

not being a specialist in the way the brain works, I'd assume everybody keeps many hundreds or thousands of mental lists

or millions

M'vy

hum

that's an interesting way of thinking it

kalina

12:56

everything can be distilled into a list

M'vy

^ that I can agree on.

kalina

the fact you can make yourself a coffee proves the existence of a mental list of instructions on how to make coffee

RoraΖ

My mental list keeps track of how much beer I drink. But then I can't read my mental handwriting and give up.

kalina

I'm not a crazy person

(I haven't yet fulfilled the list of requirements I keep in my head)

RoraΖ

Is this real?

21

Q: After getting doxxed, how can one protect personally identifiable information?

Doxing (publicly releasing private information about an individual, to make it easier to harass them) is becoming an increasingly popular tactic not just for hackivists and Anonymous, but also for petty individual revenge. What are actionable, best practice steps that an individual should take t...

Rоry McCune

12:58

@RoraΖ is it just fantasy?

RoraΖ

Is dox really a word?

Rоry McCune

@RoraΖ yep

RoraΖ

@RоryMcCune Caught in a landslide?

Rоry McCune

you can tell how leet someone is by whether they've d0x'ed some n00bs

Simon

@RoraΖ I dunno but I doubt that "doxxed" would be the proper spelling.

doxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxed

RoraΖ

12:59

@Simon plllls

Simon

LOOK AT ME MOM, I'M DOUBLING X'S

XX XX XX

Rоry McCune

@Simon you can tell the tigger is not in at the moment...

otherwise we'd be wondering why you like slapping ponies...

RoraΖ

@Simon TRIPLE XXX's bow chicka wow wow

Simon

I can mimic what the winnie da pooh fanatic would do.

It would be something like:

puts da room in ovid mode

PLS ALL B NICE

That is all.

Rоry McCune

@Simon don't forget the <DELETED>

M'vy

13:01

I'm pretty sure he would have started by something involving "your mom" first

Simon

@RоryMcCune Ah yes, look:

Now that is a full ovid impersonation.

kalina

not really

Simon

What am I missing?

kalina

that was more like @Simon with zero bofh experience doing a terribly poor impersonation of @AviD who wishes he had bofh experience

Simon

wat

kalina

13:03

you need to come across as though you have such a high opinion of yourself and that it could never be your fault, while simultaneously demonstrating the truth

Simon

o

IT WASNT MY FAULT BUT I DID IT

Is that fine?

kalina

we don't matter, we're all minions here exclusively because of your presence and we couldn't possibly have another reason to be here

Simon

dayum son

Rоry McCune

@Simon fair warning, this is @kalina warming up for her challenge of finding something more insulting to say to you

kalina

pls boi this not a dayum moment

RoraΖ

13:05

So it's December doesn't the hat challenge start?

kalina

ain't nobody got time for your dayum

Simon

OH MY GOD

WINTER BAAAAAAAAAAAASH

KALINUH R U GONNA NURD DA FUK OUT OF DA BASH AGAIN?

kalina

no I'm -99% likely to not take part this year

Simon

Why?

Rоry McCune

@kalina so you are going to then

kalina

13:07

I'm glad somebody in here could win a battle of wits against a glass of water

M'vy

@RоryMcCune arqade syndrom

Simon

wat

Mark Hulkalo

@kalina I lost the battle. Who is the winner, that I may learn from them?

RoraΖ

@kalina So you're very unlikely to not take part?

So you're likely to take part

Damn people at work talking to me, delaying my messages

Fools

Simon

o pls I haven't had my coffee yet, don't be that clever to me.

Rоry McCune

13:18

- I've been getting fruity texts from that girl at work. - Melanie? - No, I mean suggestive.

Tweeted by Castaignede on December 1, 2015 at 12:10 PM

Simon

I don't get it.

Rоry McCune

@Simon rly?

RoraΖ

@Simon melony

Simon

Oh wow.

I'm glad that I didn't get it.

Rоry McCune

@Simon it's all the more awesome if it takes a while for you to get it

M'vy

13:21

...

Simon

It might be our Frenchness Yves.

M'vy

well I mean what difference could there be between an A and an O

Simon

@kalina KALINUH wanna hear a funky Techno track?

Rоry McCune

@Simon did you write it?

Simon

pls no

Also, what website do you guys use to buy online books, like PDF or something that I can read on Android?

Rоry McCune

13:26

@Simon amazon kindle + manning + pragmatic publishers

Simon

I'd like to find "Der Klang Der Familie" somewhere.

M'vy

Google books ?

Simon

@M'vy Not available there, unfortunately.

At least not for me.

Rоry McCune

@Simon amazon.com/Klang-Familie-Berlin-Techno-Fall-ebook/dp/B00PKCVVHO/…

$13 for the eBook

Simon

@RоryMcCune I can simply install the app on my device, correct?

Rоry McCune

13:28

@Simon yeah there's a kindle app for pretty much every platform + you can read in browser

read.amazon.com

Simon

Perfect, thanks.

RoraΖ

@RоryMcCune I did not know about that, that's pretty cool

M'vy

Oh you can kindle on another thing than a kindle now?

Rоry McCune

@RoraΖ also if you're a prime member you can have a "family library" and share books

Simon

Yeah 40 bucks (CAD) for the paperback is quite a lot imo.

Rоry McCune

13:29

@M'vy yeah their iOS app is good and the browsers fine

@Simon it used to be that the eBooks and pBooks were similar prices, but that's changed more recently

so the eBooks tend to be decently cheaper

Simon

@RоryMcCune Well it makes a ton of sense, I get nothing physical!

I should only be paying for the rights at that point.

roro, in the link you've sent me, do you actually see somewhere written "ebook: 13$"?

I only get the Paperback option.

Rоry McCune

kindle £13.09

shows up on my page...

Simon

Yep I don't have the kindle option.

Weird.

RoraΖ

@RоryMcCune hmmm, might have to look into this Prime thing

Rоry McCune

@RoraΖ it saves me a tonne of cash 'cause I make so many amazon orders and I get free delivery

RoraΖ

13:33

@Simon Amazon hates canada, go to the US or UK site.

Rоry McCune

@Simon that's super odd, I guess you canadian donuts may not have it...

Simon

@RoraΖ I am on the .com site.

I wonder if they're even filtering by IP there!

Rоry McCune

@Simon yah I tried amazon.ca and that book ain't there.... sounds like you need to move to a civilsed country...

Simon

Motherfuckin' assholes.

I can't actually buy the Kindle edition.

I checked within the kindle app.

RoraΖ

@Simon Doesn't the .com site redirect to whatever country you're in?

Simon

13:35

@RoraΖ Nope, they let you know that you should be shopping on the .ca but they let you browse anyway.

Man, that sucks.

It's like iTunes, there's music not available for my country.

So I can't even purchase certain tracks on iTunes.

At that point, it's almost easier to illegally download music.

Rоry McCune

@Simon well I'm sure you get music that the rest of the world doesn't get... like Celine Dion ..... and Justin Bieber

Simon

How lucky I am!

Rоry McCune

@Simon well I know how much of a belieber you are

Simon

Oh and now I receive an email greeting me to my new kindle app.

FUCK YOUUUUUU

@RоryMcCune o pls

RoraΖ

@RоryMcCune Brian Adams

Simon

13:43

EVERYTHING I DOOOO

I DO IT 4 U

Rоry McCune

lets be honest

there's only one good Canadian band

Simon

Barenaked Ladies?

SIMPLE PLAN?

Rоry McCune

DAY340 - No Means No - The Graveyard Shift

►

Simon

whodafukisdat

Rоry McCune

@Simon ok BNL makes two I guess

@Simon dudes who've been rockin' hard since before you were born (hell almost before I was born)

Simon

13:45

Yeah man, look at all this grey hair.

Rоry McCune

recently inducted into the West Canada music hall of fame

Simon

lolwest

M'vy

^ easiest way to not learn vim

Not sure what that would imply on the system. Probably will install tiny-vim instead

RoraΖ

nano is the worst, why would anyone choose nano

Rоry McCune

@Simon here's the same band in 1989, lead singer dude had grey hair then...

Journeyman Geek

13:50

Cause its not vi ;p

Rоry McCune

Nomeansno - It's Catching Up Live In Groningen 1989

►

^NSFW lyrics BTW

Simon

@RоryMcCune They were recording with potatoes back then, eh?

Actually, the quality is not that bad at all.

Lighty

@RoraΖ Because it's pre-installed on most Pi Images :x

Rоry McCune

@Simon yeah for an analogue ---> digital conversion it came out not too bad..

Lighty

Have some workplace-music: youtu.be/SgXSomPE_FY

Simon

14:01

nct

0

Q: Rerouting domains and the need for multiple SSL certificates

If a domain URL is registered with a .com. ( www.example.com) and would like to re-route a secondary domain name with a .com.tr (www.example.com.tr) URL to the domain with the .com URL - is this possible ? The .com domain is SSL certified. Do I need a secondary SSL certificate in order to re-rou...

certificate-authority

This person is thanking himself at the end of his question!

Lighty

@Simon Is that a long-lost sibling of yours?

Ohnana

@RoraΖ it's simple as shit

Simon

@Lighty Shush Dutch kiddo.

Ohnana

oh fuk i got the populist badge

RoraΖ

@Ohnana terrible as shit

Simon

14:09

pls how is nano terriboo?

RoraΖ

@Ohnana hands a cookie

Mark Hulkalo

@Simon rofl

Ohnana

@RoryAlsop changing your name is public record. doing that does not help you hide unless you get a court injunction

Mark Hulkalo

In cases of bodily harm, you can get a court injunction

Ohnana

might even get one for stalking

but that's (a form) you have to (turn into the court) before appearing before the judge

Mark Hulkalo

14:13

You could, yeah. Witness protection too

@Ohnana The file can be deleted

I saw a guy convicted of multiple kiddy porn charges get his records sealed, and then his request to get his records sealed sealed.

Pretty screwed up

Ohnana

someone had a good lawyer

Mark Hulkalo

Or a good political connection cough

Rory Alsop

@Ohnana - yep, that's why I had that as the end point. Such as witness protection etc

Ohnana

witness protection over stalking? errr

Mark Hulkalo

No, I'm adding different reasons why someone may be able to get a court injunction

Reading compyhension raptor does not like you

Rоry McCune

14:19

KORG iDS-10 for iPhone - Beat Making

►

^@kalina @Simon in case you've not seen this..

Simon

We want to twist knobs, not touch screens.

Rоry McCune

@Simon just sayin' could be useful for those times when your knobs aren't easily to hand, but inspiration strikes

I mean to my uneducated ear, some of the stuff he did with that sounded quite good (if you like that kind of thing)

Mark Hulkalo

@RоryMcCune I can't count the number of times inspiration struck, only for me to be unable to utilize it on the spot since I don't have my computer with me. Like random shower thoughts, or something. :p

Rоry McCune

@MarkHulkalo happens to me a lot, luckily shower is near computer so I can write stuff down afterwards, usually presentation ideas

Mark Hulkalo

Mostly happens to me out in the middle of nowhere

Lighty

14:25

Jesus -.-

there is this Dutch tv commercial

about "Don't drink and smoke under 18"

it's fine, not a big deal

but, their campaign tells parents to change their WiFi "name" to NIX18 (from the dutch word Niks, wich emans nothing)

and password to NIETROKENENDRINKEN (niet roken en dirnken, wich means dont smoke and drink)

I don't see what possibly could go wrong there

2

Ohnana

DERP

Rоry McCune

@Lighty surely they've got to be trollin'

Ohnana

someone on the dutch ad counsel wants some free internets

3

Lighty

@RоryMcCune nix18.nl/wifi

Thats not a joke

Ohnana

-1

Q: Source of MITM?

every few days My machine specifically experiences what feels like an automated MitM attack, firstly I say my machine because no one else experiences this in the office at the same time as me (while someone has before experienced it from there machine I cannot confirm it was the same thing) Whe...

man-in-the-middle

place bets: stupid ISP or cannot into computer?

Lighty

14:28

nix18 is a governement campaign that also runs on schools to educate children the dangerous of alcohol abuse, how alcohol works, and smoking, drugs etc.

Ohnana

@Lighty they tell you on the page to use a different password though

Lighty

a requiered thing imo

@Ohnana I stood infront of the TV not a while ago, and googled its commercials

seems they "fixed" it

then again, seems like variations of the password to me

Ohnana

@Lighty that's what i figured

Lighty

Dictionary attack incoming

Mark Hulkalo

@Ohnana May be a corporate setup. He may not have access to certain websites... this happens to me a lot when trying to surf websites.

Ohnana

14:29

and the password checker doesn't ask you to put in the password so that's good

Austin Hartzheim

@Lighty If there is one thing we've learned about passwords in our short existence, it's that people can't be trusted to come up with variations.

Lighty

This is why GOvernement and IT don't mix well

our GOv has an internal IT branch, and the Gov dictates what it should do

Mark Hulkalo

Government and IT can be hilarious

Lighty

if they just, like, hired a company for that, shit wasn't as bad

@MarkHulkalo Gov sites here aren't really that user-friendly

Simon

@Lighty Son, I've got an advice for you

NIETROKENENDRINKEN

Mark Hulkalo

14:31

@Lighty A lot of ours are just as bad.

And the funny thing is the recent OPM hack. I mean, it doesn't get more moronic than that.

Lighty

@Simon YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO, I AM AN ADULT 18 YEAR OLD AND KNOW EVERYTHING BETTER THAN YOU AT THIS MOMENT BLABLABLA -every teenager ever

Mark Hulkalo

That's the all-time worst case of hacking ever made in the history of mankind.

Simon

@Lighty Fine son, do whatever you like and I guarantee you that you'll drink & smoke once.

Says who? 15 years old me.

Lighty

@Simon 1: that was a joke, 2: there is nothing wrong with a glass of Baileys

Rоry McCune

@Simon shmoke only once... he's in holland!

Simon

14:33

1: I know 2: pls

@RоryMcCune I SAID DRINK AND SMOKE

YOU DO ONE, NOT BOTH AT THE SAME TIME

Rоry McCune

@Simon wouldn't know guv that whole shmokin' thing is illegal over here

Simon

o pls

Lighty

I forgot to specify what to smoke

to evade any embarrassing things, let's stay with tobacco

Rоry McCune

@Lighty ohh I thought we were talking about crack

Ohnana

@RоryMcCune wtf!

Rоry McCune

14:41

@Ohnana pls, you can't have missed the implicit <sarcasm> tag :op

Mark Hulkalo

You know your web host is bad when it doesn't let you log in to the control panel on your phone

Rоry McCune

motherboard.vice.com/read/… <--FFS

2

Mark Hulkalo

Yeah, that's all really easy to do

Wait, what?

The only required condition is that the WIFI transmitter of the mobile device will be open (No need to surf the web).

...

Xander

@Ohnana Malware.

Mark Hulkalo

@RоryMcCune I've actually seen that in action before.

Ohnana

14:52

@RоryMcCune that is, it's bad if the product works as advertised

Mark Hulkalo

Pretty sure it does.

Rоry McCune

@Ohnana well when they're selling to govs for big money, I guess it'll need to deliver...

Mark Hulkalo

^

Ohnana

how tf do they do that, though

Xander

@RоryMcCune Sounds like a WiFi Pineapple. But since they're selling it to governments, it probably costs 30 times as much.

Mark Hulkalo

14:54

Vulnerability in the wifi firmware

Yeah, that's one way to do it... but I have doubts a wifi pineapple is that effective without user-interaction

Rоry McCune

@Xander yeah it would need some way to actually get the devices to connect through it though, which is tricky, how are they handling SSL (which things like facebook/dropbox use)

Mark Hulkalo

You'd have to know in advance which networks they automatically connect to

Rоry McCune

otherwise it won't get past the handshake

@MarkHulkalo yeah getting a connection is relatively easy, getting valuable data less so...

Mark Hulkalo

@RоryMcCune If you save your passwords, it's pretty easy. I do wonder what's going on with Facebook/dropbox, though.

Austin Hartzheim

@MarkHulkalo You don't need to know in advance. The phone broadcasts that information.

Mark Hulkalo

14:56

@AustinHartzheim The phone broadcasts information about the WiFi networks it knows?

Simon

@MarkHulkalo Yes.

Rоry McCune

@MarkHulkalo yeah

Austin Hartzheim

@MarkHulkalo Yeah. It constantly sends out messages like "is network XXX here?"

Mark Hulkalo

Okay, that I did not know. That's dumb

Rоry McCune

of course it may not be wi-fi at all, could be fake base station

Austin Hartzheim

14:56

I have an app on my phone to stop that behavior.

Mark Hulkalo

Okay, pretty easy to siphon those contacts then.

And pretty much everything else

Rоry McCune

@MarkHulkalo not really, at an IP level the connections are SSL

Xander

@RоryMcCune I don't think it's exactly what they claim. I think it's a standard WiFi MitM. They listen for probes to unprotected networks, then advertise as those networks, and let the phone go ahead and connect. Then they take advantage of the fact that apps start syncing, and any app that doesn't do cert pinning gets owned.

Rоry McCune

so you need to intercept SSL to get useful data passively

Mark Hulkalo

@RоryMcCune You mean forced dropping to plaintext?

Rоry McCune

14:57

@Xander to do that they need a valid SSL root cert....

Ohnana

@Xander so it's a fkin rogue access point attack

Rоry McCune

now if you've got a valid SSL root cert. then sure all bets are off

Ohnana

@RоryMcCune like the us govt

Rоry McCune

but any co. getting caught issuing those will get it revoked real quick

Mark Hulkalo

Hmm... I think I know now

Rоry McCune

14:58

@Ohnana sure US.Gov can get them no worries, private companies less so

Mark Hulkalo

Okay, so a wifi pineapple that does an RCE on your phone, and keylogs you. Pretty much that

Xander

@RоryMcCune Good point. They could be only targeting apps that don't validate certs at all, or that are vulnerable to SSLStrip.

Mark Hulkalo

There's a way to exploit SwiftKey for example, to turn it into a keylogger

Rоry McCune

FFox/IE/Chrome will revoke a rogue root cert and boot the CA these days I reckon

Mark Hulkalo

So all you have to do is type in your passwords once

Rоry McCune

14:59

@Xander yeah so they're either over-selling (only works on old/crap apps) or they have something cool and invasive to get access

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