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15:01
@hello thats racist.
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The guy has now realized that he's not gonna get anything helpful here.
@AviD remembering that this person may be new and may not get insider jokes...
I was being helpful
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@kalina Yes, you gave us all a good laugh.
by making obvious fun out of myself I have hopefully instilled the memory of me obviously getting it wrong in him and now he'll never make that mistake
15:02
heh. tbf I would have tried to help you, @hello, but I honestly have no idea, I dont use GNU...
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Why do I constantly think about men?
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@hello serious answer: typically you'll have a master key, which is like a meta key used for creating, signing, revoking, etc. subkeys are the grunt workers that sign emails, decrypt stuff, encrypt stuff, and are usually used for a period of a few years. they're short, and fleeting.
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Tsk tsk.
perhaps when the bear shows, he'll enlighten us all.
@hello what @Ohnana says + the idea that a subkey can be revoked without revoking the master key...
@AviD pls
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/seahorse/
I just shot water through my mouth, onto my keyboard and monitor
thanks a lot avid
@000 that's not even had an edit, you should edit it to make sure people think it was Avid putting words in your mouth...
15:04
@MarkHulkalo whaaaat
@RоryMcCune hehe
should I change that to ponies?
@AviD this
ah
i don't get it at all
I don't either
@RоryMcCune So it is possible to have one of my subkeys revoked. Could that also mean that I could have several subkeys? Perhaps one private key (master key) and several other public keys?
15:05
@RoryAlsop ta is that generally an ok APK site? I never know which ones are malware-ridden...
@hello so a key is actually two parts: a public and a private. a master key has these two parts, and all your subkeys have these distinct pieces
@hello generally you'd have different pairs, so one pair for signing say and one pair for encryption
and you can have subkeys with different encryption methods, so you have diversity in your pocket
but if we ping @ThomasPornin enough times, he may be along and be able to provide a much better description :)
See that subkey pairs, that specific key highlighted was imported into my GNU Application
15:08
OMG A GUY THAT LOOKS JUST LIKE EARL HICKEY WAS ON MY LINKEDIN PROFILE
@hello OH MY GOD YOU JUST LINKED YOUR KEY IDS ON THE INTERNET
!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111
s -signing, c - ??? , e - encryption
room topic changed to The DMZ: A sometimes infosec room. Don't take advice from people with animal avatars, unless they're bears! [crypto] [infosec] [security] [webappsec]
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and those subkeys may have been generated automatically -- all keys cannot do all things
@RоryMcCune heeeeeeyy
15:09
:P
tiggers arent animals
Oh boy!!!
Do I count as an animal?
also I cannot condone those tags
@AviD Yeah, they're still missing stuff like and
15:10
@Iszi
How do you write tags?
@AviD That too.
@Iszi we had to remove all that stuff at the request of @kalina and @000 , they didn't like the frivalous tags
[tag](test)
15:10
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@RоryMcCune LIBATIONS IS NOT FRIVILOUS
Thanks, Avid. I would've never figured it out if it weren't for you.
15:11
[tag:test]
@MarkHulkalo well, you asked.
I am always happy to help.
seriously are we giving away all of our secrets?
yay!
I helped!
ah, thank you, M'vy.
15:12
you're just teaching these newbies how to triforce?
ffs
@hello did you want that message deleted because it contained sensitive information/keys?
Well, I did not had the sandbox link in my pocket so I went the efficient way
@ArtOfCode Yes. Never knew something could be done security-wise if if reveal ID's to my keys.
@hello nothing could.
@ArtOfCode there's a mod in here (cough cough @avid cough), I think @hello may have been confused by some of the room denezins sense of humour...
15:13
oh dear, that escalated quickly
Okay. I'm confused now
hey @RоryMcCune remember that time the guy trolled the other guy right off the internet?
@hello Just checking because I can redact the message if you feel it's necessary. I don't think there are security implications, though.
@hello sorry.... it's a bearpit in here.
@ArtOfCode who are you and why are you here?
15:14
@ArtOfCode Okay. Undo the delete.
Also:
@AviD more like a tigger and pony show :op
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@kalina made a joke about "revealing" your key ids.
@M'vy srsface
15:15
@hello Can't undelete chat messages :)
@kalina flagapalooza
@hello we're all assholes here. Me and rory are the only ones attempting to be serious right now
@M'vy it's because of people like you that we can't have nice things
@Ohnana I know now.

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I almost did it.
@ArtOfCode HMMMMM I'm not sure if that's an acceptable reason
15:15
@MarkHulkalo FUCK UP
@RоryMcCune With PGP's Web of Trust, everybody is a Certification Authority able to issue certificates to other people. With subkeys, you are also a CA issuing certificates to yourself.
Let me try again.

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at least you seem to be far more useful than @AviD
@kalina flags draw mods, it's like honey or crypto and bearrs
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@kalina pls, that doesnt take much
15:16
@kalina sniffles it's okay, I'll leave :'(
Also:

Sandbox

Where you can play with chat features (except flagging) and ch...
@ArtOfCode Don't leave. We love you.
@ArtOfCode it's not personal, I'm allergic to mods
@ThomasPornin @hello what he said, that's a better way of understanding it
@MarkHulkalo :D
@kalina I can be a not-mod.
15:16
they make me burst into flames
@kalina she said, in the room with the highest mod-ratio.
@kalina I'm in the theory that by sharing nice things, we can get nicer things
@RоryMcCune Good. Thanks @ThomasPornin
@AviD if I needed a mod, you wouldn't be the first person I thought of
@M'vy "sharing"?? You mean like MUTUAL STEALING??
15:17
or the second
or the third...
@kalina yay!
in fact, the world would basically have to have gone completely to shit and I be completely out of options before I'd consider asking you for help
@kalina seriously, its shameful the way you keep flirting with me, right here in front of everybody.
@kalina there, I'm a not-mod
@ArtOfCode blue name = a mod
no I'm not going to refresh my page
15:18
@kalina reload
heh, got there before me
how u do that
associate with a different site
one without a diamond
Okay, I'm working on a class assignment - enc, dec and hash, using CryptoPP and I was able to test it with 100mb .txt file, is that size good enough.
yeah, that
I'm going to put that back now, I like my buttons
huh there's a hardwarerecs.se and opensource.se , who knew!
15:20
@RоryMcCune once upon a time you had to have a good idea in order to get through area51
@kalina well with the amount of time people spend in here discussing hardware req's that one seems good anyway :)
@RоryMcCune SU must have gotten fed up with those q's...
bye
@RоryMcCune yeah - that's the one most ingressers use to get around the phased rollout of updates
@kalina see ya
15:33
I need a good isogram, like the word SPECIAL
Something similar, but not the same. Don't wanna rip-off fallout
@hello good enough for what ?
@MarkHulkalo how similar? In meaning ?
@M'vy Well, I'm trying to make a Fallout Shelter clone
yeah, but I don't know fallout thingies.
and the whole "SPECIAL" attribute list is nice, but I want something different without stealing it. A minimum of 5 letters, maximum of 7
15:43
But PLATINUM is an ISOGRAM
SPECIAL = Strength, Perception, Endurance, Charisma, Intelligence, Agility, Luck
oh, so it has to mean something
btw. Isogram is an isogram too
The SPECIAL thing is so perfect, so it's hard to beat
Yeah I know :p
I'm thinking of just grouping stats up and not using something like "SPECIAL"
15:45
you're special.
16:04
@MarkHulkalo Sic Dew , Strength Intelligence Charisma Dexterity Endurance Wisdom
BTW the best way to find things like that is have lists of attributes then plug the initial letters into an acronym finder
Yeah I'm doing that now
So far I have a couple. MIGHT, CHARM
oh there you go... WIELDS Wisdom Intelligence Endurance Luck Dexterity Strength
Oh that's good
But it's six letters
I want 5 or 7, but not 6
16:07
yeah you said min 5 chars max 7 ... you didn't say no 6!
I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT
=P
MIGHT - Motivation, Intelligence ?, Health, Tenacity
CHARM - Charisma, Health, Agility, Reflexes (same thing, so, uh, no?), Might
@MarkHulkalo well agility could be jumping distance and stuff, reflexes is getting out of the way quickly
True, but most games combine the two
Could replace either of them with something else
Could be Genetics?
oh wait. uh, wrong one
Ambition, Reflexes. Could work, I guess
16:14
@RоryMcCune that would be better WEDICS
Now I'm stuck between two ideas:

MIGHT - Motivation, Intelligence Genetics, Health, Tenacity
CHARM - Charisma, Health, Ambition, Reflexes, Might
@MarkHulkalo wouldnt motivation and tenacity be very similar?
what is this even for?
tenacity is like the ability to take blows to the head and not keel over, I think
> the quality or fact of being able to grip something firmly; grip.
but you're right, they're kind of similar
16:16
or better this:
> the quality or fact of being very determined; determination.
the quality or fact of continuing to exist; persistence.
thats more like what I expected
determination or persistence.
Yeah, you're right
Instead of Motivation, uh... hm.
@MarkHulkalo Might?
or rather, instead of Tenacity, Toughness
Memory
Yeah, but it would refer back to itself
Which is weird :p
16:18
that could work for like a wizard type, how many spells she can remember.
I figured intelligence might work for that, but yeah, no wizards here
genetics also doesnt really seem to fit...
The NPCs can have babies
intelligence and memory are not the same.
@MarkHulkalo wut
You start off with a few NPCs... any more, and you need to recruit, or make babies.
16:19
its this gonna be like a pornographic version of The Sims?
no, lol
something like Larry's Quest?
Like Fallout Shelter
It's not going to be visible
@MarkHulkalo no clue
16:51
@MarkHulkalo Backronym this: ABILITY
Yeah, the "Y" is gonna be tricky. But I think it's a good candidate in general.
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You're a good candidate.
@000 Awwww. Thanks, ex-son.
@Iszi Youthfulness?
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Yolo?
@RоryMcCune As a character attribute? Nah.
16:55
@Iszi Ability has two I's
Has to be an isogram
@000 well he would likely be selling to a youth marketplace
@Iszi there's a pretty limited stock of options that start with Y
@MarkHulkalo What's with the arbitrary non-isogram requirement?
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@RоryMcCune Yeah and I can't think of one that would refer to a ween that starts with "y".
@000 I'd call that bonus.
they are all attributes. Having two attributes abbreviated to "I" might be confusing to the player
16:57
@MarkHulkalo So, you handle them like Tuesday & Thursday - use the first two letters, whenever they need to be referred to by abbreviation only.
not to be a prick, but you should probably code this thing up before the backronym
Only want one letter :>
oh, I'm coding it righ tnow
god knows what will come up during testing

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