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David Freitag

00:01

@Simon Also, Cold 911 is freaking fantastic. You should get some in case you or the donut gets sick.

TildalWave

@Simon meh, just when I thought this is gonna be fun

David Freitag

2 hours ago, by David Freitag

Please, let's not start link wars.

TildalWave

you killed it!

David Freitag

Yes, I killed it, stuffed it, then mounted it on my wall.

TildalWave

kids these days! so responsible and then smug about it too

damn, now I forgot what I wanted to do

David Freitag

00:12

@TildalWave Bacon.

TildalWave

heh no definitely not that, it's 2 am plus here

David Freitag

It's never the wrong time for bacon.

TildalWave

I do still have some of the blue haribo gum bears tho

special edition :P

David Freitag

I could go for some gummy worms right about now

Journeyman Geek

@DavidFreitag it is. I should put it on facebook with a warning not to click on it.

David Freitag

00:16

@JourneymanGeek Whoever made that site should add a confirmation button

Simon

00:32

@DavidFreitag Cool, I'll get some eventually.

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David Freitag

01:34

toyland.gizmodo.com/…

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Stack Exchange

04:06

And when I think about it, a lot of "things I want to do" are just learning about and discussing new tools for tinkering with the chain.

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Llama del Rey

07:59

holas

kalina

salut

Rory Alsop

Bom dia

Barry Carlyon

08:57

G'day

Llama del Rey

hello

Lucas Kauffman

hello

Barry Carlyon

hello

Llama del Rey

como te vay Lucas?

Lucas Kauffman

bien bien y tu?

Barry Carlyon

09:04

cccccccombobreaker

Lucas Kauffman

@ManishEarth ping

@ManishEarth can we get a seperate room I need to ask a few questions

Llama del Rey

!!/random

test

Arperum

Sandbox

Where you can play with chat features (except flagging) and ch...

kalina

yea! the DMZ isn't for chatting in

Arperum

09:23

Not for testing anyway.

Here you should unleash the full options version post testing.

Llama del Rey

09:39

woop woop got certified for ISO22301

Journeyman Geek

I just lost my job :(

kalina

@JourneymanGeek D:

were you fired for spending too much time on SE?

Journeyman Geek

No

kalina

or did you get made redundant/were a victim of "restructuring"?

Journeyman Geek

The latter indirectly

kalina

09:48

did you drop a live database?

Journeyman Geek

tho not officially since tech was supposed to be 'safe' from this

No

I didn't break anything

kalina

well that really sucks

surely somebody of your ability would have no problem finding another position?

if you're financially secure why not take this opportunity to Do Your Own Thing™?

Journeyman Geek

For some reason I had trouble getting interviews

and no, I have almost no money outside what I made here

kalina

does your CV need more pretty perhaps?

Journeyman Geek

Well, I did my brother's CV up and he got a job due to that

kalina

09:54

You know about the Iceberg secret, right?

It's all about the pretty

don't worry about too much substance

my last CV didn't even have any pink on it, I got interviews because of the skills matrix

because the skills matrix wouldn't print correctly if you uploaded your CV to a job site and the word document got converted to html

and it resulted in my CV printing as like 30 pages instead of the 3 it was on

so I always got a call going "WTF IS THIS"

I still get emails asking if I want to be a .NET developer because of the "enough .NET to be able to read/debug c#/vb.net" line

which I find funny

I should retire that email address actually

big banks to adopt a system similar to bitcoin's blockchain?

including @RoryAlsop's bigbank

apparently

Airports are starting to use remote control towers relying on an array of sensors to detect the planes

One spokesperson said: "The introduction of remote control towers is one of the most exciting technological developments in the history of our industry,"

TildalWave

10:11

heh how exciting industry :)

kalina

Surely "the invention of the airplane" would be the most exciting technological development in the history of their industry

I can spell

TildalWave

kinda made sense before too

the quote says "one of" tho

kalina

IRRELEVANT

TildalWave

which is kinda like saying that today is one of the best days I ever had

kalina

Today is one of the best days I ever had

This coffee is one of the best coffees I ever had

TildalWave

10:16

this chat is one of the most interesting chats I ever had :)

kalina

This chat room is one of the most interesting chat rooms I've ever been in

TildalWave

@JourneymanGeek Oh that sucks! What, no advance notice?

CodesInChaos

10:38

0

Q: How bad is it to allow any protocols on href of anchor elements (just blacklist javascript: properly)?

I know this is not a good idea for other elements and attributes, but for<a href=>it seems javascript: is the only scheme which can lead to xss. So is it safe to allow this ? The only thing I coudn’t figure is if a flash file loaded with a data: ᴜʀɪ would keep the same origin of the site.

security anchor xss data-uri

kalina

11:07

this is a place for crazy people... I'm not crazy

ooo

convertible huracán

RoraΖ

@RoryAlsop Yeah I was pretty annoyed by that actually. Especially because I didn't actually flag anyone.

@kalina Convertible?

kalina

well, removable roof

only 190k€

and that blue is lovely

RoraΖ

That does look fun

Terry Chia

11:27

@JourneymanGeek Is tomorrow good for you?

Llama del Rey

@JourneymanGeek what qualifications do you have?

@JourneymanGeek just get to a headhunter in IT on linkedin

kalina

user image

It's a cake!

But it's pi!

No it's cake!

Yes but it's pi!

It's a cake!!!!!!!

pi.

Journeyman Geek

@LlamadelRey bsc in computer forensics, and information security management and management, dual major

kalina

I didn't realize you were so qualified

Llama del Rey

@JourneymanGeek what did you do so far as job?

kalina

11:34

normally people who're good at stuff don't need to worry about having money to purchase foods

Journeyman Geek

@TildalWave from what I can tell no one else at work knew.

@LlamadelRey tech support at a vfx company since jan

Llama del Rey

@JourneymanGeek why not do something with infosec?

kalina

you worked at double negative?

Llama del Rey

@JourneymanGeek FireEye is recruiting in Singapore

Lucas Kauffman

also this is me ^

I should not chat with my scaper's account

Journeyman Geek

11:36

@LlamadelRey applied a few, didn't get interviews

@kalina yup

Terry Chia

@JourneymanGeek Wait, what happened? You lost your job? :(

kalina

the information security is strong in this one

seriously mad information gathering capabilities of kalina AI 2.0

Journeyman Geek

Yeah.

@kalina it was on my profile

kalina

well since you've worked at the top result in google for "vfx singapore"

why not work for the second result?

CRITICA

@JourneymanGeek psh like I looked at your profile

that was so easy I skipped that step

Terry Chia

@JourneymanGeek You want me to forward your resume to some people I know and see if it gets anywhere?

kalina

11:41

why not ask for relocation to Canada?

they've got software techie type jobs at their Canadian office

RoraΖ

yeah but then he's in Canada

kalina

Is that a downside?

Canada is a beautiful country with lots of fields and snow and generally nice people

Rory Alsop

Mmmmmm pi cake @kalina

RoraΖ

@kalina Don't forget about healthcare

But still, there's nothing in Canada

Rory Alsop

@JourneymanGeek - not good. Hope you get something quickly

Lucas Kauffman

11:47

@kalina and donuts

RoraΖ

3/4 of the country in uninhabitable

JukEboX

Hey Hey

Rory Alsop

That can be a good thing @RoraΖ - it means there are no people in it

kalina

@RoraΖ pls, I live in Europe, universal healthcare is a thing we take for granted

Lucas Kauffman

@kalina That's actually the thing that scares me the most with moving to SG, doctor visits and hospitals

kalina

11:51

erm, singapore is also a universal healthcare country

Lucas Kauffman

@kalina eeeh if you have CPF yes

@kalina it's very different from our systems

@kalina It's a better system in my opinion tho, as it eliminates people who don't contribute. The issue with that is that I need to cma very well

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman Is it confirmed?

Lucas Kauffman

@TerryChia well they are making me an offer they just need one piece of information (with regard to if EY belgium wants to drop my fees for my master's degree)

so I had a chat with the partner and he told me to let him know when I want to start and he'll let HR draft a contract

so yea it's confirmed :p

Terry Chia

Ah nice.

Thomas Pornin

@Simon @Simon's career's is a 404.

4

Terry Chia

12:01

@ThomasPornin I laughed.

RoraΖ

@ThomasPornin SICK BURN

kalina

you know shit just got real when @ThomasPornin's first comment of the day is ripping a hole in @Simon

RoraΖ

@kalina Taking after his mom, HEYO

Simon

@ThomasPornin DON'T MAKE ME REACTIVATE THE .HTACCESS ENTRY YOU BEAR.

Rory Alsop

Nice work, big bear!

:-)

Journeyman Geek

12:16

@TerryChia I'd need to update it.

But yes. Gimme a day or two and I'll get it done.

Terry Chia

@JourneymanGeek Cool.

Journeyman Geek

And yeah, I'm on for tommorrow

Terry Chia

I'll see if any of my contacts have a job opening.

@JourneymanGeek Outram right? What's a good time for you?

Journeyman Geek

(I need to drop off my final paycheck at the bank)

2-3

If you gimme a 30 minute warning, I should be there right around the time you are

Terry Chia

@JourneymanGeek Sounds good. Email me your number? [email protected]

Simon

12:18

Silly donut born in 94.

Journeyman Geek

@TerryChia sent

Terry Chia

@JourneymanGeek Gotcha.

Journeyman Geek

hm. NEL preferably, its a lot better laid out than the old line, and nearer for me to walk to

near station control

@LucasKauffman: tho as a foreigner, you can basically take your whole CPF if you leave

IIRC

so, it actually works pretty well for you.

Lucas Kauffman

@JourneymanGeek I'm going to start paying CPF after I get PR status

Journeyman Geek

Ahh

Lucas Kauffman

12:21

in the meanwhile I need to get a good insurance

Terry Chia

@JourneymanGeek Yeah. NEL works great for me. Got my whatsapp?

Journeyman Geek

Also, lots of companies do basic healthcare stuff for you

Lucas Kauffman

@JourneymanGeek yea I normally get hospital plus dental

but regular doctor visits aren't covered by that

@TerryChia SG meetup :o with you @JourneymanGeek

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman Oh, you going for PR?

Lucas Kauffman

we should visit brewerkz when I get there

@TerryChia yea ASAP

I think it's fairest

contributing to the economy

Rory Alsop

12:23

@TerryChia - you probably want to remove your email unless you want spam...

Terry Chia

@RoryAlsop It's fine. My email is plastered everywhere.

Gmail's spam filters are really good.

CodesInChaos

@TerryChia Really? For me they have lots of false-positives

Terry Chia

@CodesInChaos I don't have any issues with it so far.

Simon

@TerryChia I concur.

security.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/60123

"Removed first paragraph, changed bold things to italics to be less disturbing when reading"

How about you mind your own fucking business?

CodesInChaos

I think it's a change for the better.

Simon

12:35

@kalina Did you hear this one: soundcloud.com/fuckmylife/blood-for-the-bloodgoat

@CodesInChaos Maybe I'm biased because I hate the guy.

Journeyman Geek

@TerryChia: got it

@LucasKauffman: quite often there's a 'company' clinic which has better rates or is covered

Lucas Kauffman

@JourneymanGeek ah excellent

Terry Chia

@JourneymanGeek What sort of job are you looking for anyway?

Journeyman Geek

@TerryChia: I quite literally have not thought about it yet.

I'd prefer something easy on coding simply cause I'm not great at it

Simon

@JourneymanGeek wat

I find that hard to believe.

Journeyman Geek

12:41

I know my way around a linux system, have some forensics training (tho I'm a little rusty), and I'm pretty good with hardware.

Lucas Kauffman

@JourneymanGeek system engineer?

Journeyman Geek

@LucasKauffman That was what I'd hoped for, eventually

Lucas Kauffman

DevOps

Terry Chia

I have contacts at places like Symantec, e-Cop, things like that.

Journeyman Geek

The dev side of thing is not quite my forte.

And I wouldn't expect my employer to baby me about stuff like that ><

TildalWave

12:42

how about systems analyst?

Journeyman Geek

What does that entail?

(so sorry for my ignorance. I quite literally have not thought about this at all)

@TildalWave: I basically studied that in uni!

TildalWave

geez oh look there's wiki for everything, how convenient lol

Systems analyst

A systems analyst is an IT professional who specializes in analyzing, designing and implementing information systems. Systems analysts assess the suitability of information systems in terms of their intended outcomes and liaise with end users, software vendors and programmers in order to achieve these outcomes. A systems analyst is a person who uses analysis and design techniques to solve business problems using information technology. Systems analysts may serve as change agents who identify the organizational improvements needed, design systems to implement those changes, and train and motivate...

Simon

@TildalWave There's a wiki for the clock guy.

Journeyman Geek

Yeah, I looked there

TildalWave

who?

Simon

12:44

Ahmed Mohamed (student)

Ahmed Mohamed is a 14-year old student of MacArthur High School in Irving, Texas, who was arrested for taking a digital clock he purchased, disassembled and fitted it inside a pencil case to school to impress his engineering teacher. The case sparked debates on racial profiling and Islamophobia with Mohamed getting support from many sources, including US President Barack Obama and Facebook-founder Mark Zuckerberg. == BackgroundEdit == Mohamed comes from a Muslim family, and is the son of Mohamed Elhassan Mohamed, an immigrant from Sudan who has contested for the Sudanese presidency twice. ��2...

TildalWave

lol didn't hear of it

what douches

Simon

@DavidFreitag dovid, we found someone who's been living in a rock even in deeper seas than you. ^

@TildalWave Kudos to you for not being exposed to it even once, it was freaking everywhere.

TildalWave

hey wot so they didn't report to me personally that some teenage dude built a digital watch somewhere on the other side of the world

Simon

@TildalWave You should know by now that the USA is the center of the universe.

TildalWave

and no I don't have a FB account or watch telly

@Simon matter of perspective

Simon

12:49

@TildalWave No, no. Ask any American, he'll tell you.

TildalWave

yes, maybe, from their perspective, not mine

we'd fist have to establish why should I care about theirs

Simon

But an American will effectively tell you that his perspective should be everyone's perspective.

TildalWave

right

Simon

trolololo

JukEboX

I have yet to impose my will on any of you.

kalina

13:01

@Simon why

Simon

@kalina He was suspended twice I believe in the past for making very dumb edits.

kalina

you know the whole clock thing... in all fairness it does kinda look like it may possibly be a bomb to a completely untrained eye

briefcase... wires... clock...

Simon

Yes, I agree but as some people have stated, taking a good look at it for a minute should be enough to realize that there are no explosives.

TildalWave

@kalina he (or she) basically suggested many trivial edits, and was fixing grammar while introducing other issues to posts ... so that went up @Simon's nose and he must have a memory of an elephant ... or maybe something else of an elephant, who knows LOL

kalina

@Simon sure but I can't imagine that in paranoid America they would "take a look for a minute"

Simon

13:03

@TildalWave A willy of an elephant?!?!?

@kalina Especially considering that he's Muslim.

kalina

I mean really, what logical person would "hang around" if they've just had the thought "BOMB!"

no, I mean irrespective of scenario

Simon

@kalina Good point.

Journeyman Geek

this is my current, quickly updated resume, I'll probably fix it up further over the week

TildalWave

@Simon I was thinking more pride and stubbornness but OK I'll let you dream :P

kalina

what really should have happened is after he showed it to the first teacher (who didn't react "BOMB!") is that teacher should have been diligent in informing all of the other teachers

Terry Chia

13:04

@JourneymanGeek Might want to nuke that link since it has your address and phone.

Simon

@JourneymanGeek Why did you include your nickname in it?

Also what Terry said.

(The mention at the very top, the one when you talk about SU is fine).

Journeyman Geek

@Simon: Hence me mentioning fixing it up further

TildalWave

@kalina Hey I think my missus looks like a bomb!

Journeyman Geek

I need to redo most of it

kalina

@TildalWave that's so rude

or pervy

depending

TildalWave

13:08

wot?

I'm not in your mind, that's all you :P

Journeyman Geek

@Simon: Thanks!

kalina

my hearing is still not right

I don't feel flu'd up anymore but its like everything above 11kHz is dulled on my left side

Simon

Looks like you're gonna have to work on basslines.

kalina

I have enough different basslines to summon that anything else will be purely experimental

and that's not even relevant to the current process!

stop mixing while you're writing

you write, you finish

then you mix

Simon

Yeah noob, leave your kick at -10 dB and do minimal mixing until you're done with the structure.

kalina

13:16

yeah

no...

why even bother assigning specific numbers

write with everything at 100% volume with no panning

then mix

why start sculpting your sound when you haven't even decided what sounds you're putting in?

Simon

Yeah man, why try to do the pls dance when you can't even do the lps dance?

kalina

why try and dance at all when there's nothing to dance to!

RoraΖ

@kalina Regardless of the reaction to the clock, the kid shouldn't have been arrested and the charges shouldn't have been pressed in the first place.

kalina

@RoraΖ certainly not

Simon

I feel like this wouldn't have been such a big deal in the North of the States of the United of the America.

kalina

13:26

America of the North States of of the the

Simon

The America of the States of the United.

kalina

this is getting boring

I am currently 27% bored

Simon

I need to pee at 60%.

63% now.

RoraΖ

@Simon Hard to gauge, being around 9/11. Also did you see the picture of the clock?

kalina

-.-

Simon

13:28

@RoraΖ Yeah, it is indeed a bit scary.

@kalina Fine, wanna hear the kick that I asked my senpai to review?

kalina

@RoraΖ the real question in my opinion is...

he got invited to the White House with his clock

Simon

His review: "still too cute".

was lulz

kalina

what do you honestly think would have happened if he had turned up uninvited with that briefcase?

RoraΖ

@Simon Like, he shouldn't have been arrested by any means. But who makes a clock out of a briefcase?

@kalina Uninvited where?

kalina

45 secs ago, by kalina

he got invited to the White House with his clock

Simon

13:30

@RoraΖ Someone who watched a ton of movies.

RoraΖ

@kalina Oh he would have been detained and questioned. 100%

kalina

exactly

RoraΖ

Still not sure if he would have been arrested and formally charged.

Simon

@RoraΖ That is where they crossed the line.

Everything else was pretty much standard procedure I'd say.

kalina

well that's because Texas police are morons

RoraΖ

13:31

@Simon yeah I'd agree

kalina

what did they do, arrest him before looking at the device?

did that mean they arrested him for no reason at all?

other than some random saying "bomb!"?

Simon

@kalina That sounds fine to me.

RoraΖ

@kalina He was arrested on charges of "Fake Bomb Hoax"

Like calling in a bomb scare

Simon

You detain the person and then you make sure that it's not a bomb.

In case he can trigger the explosion.

kalina

@RoraΖ isn't that what the teachers are guilty of?

a fake bomb scare?

and where was the teacher that had already seen the clock during all of this?

Simon

13:33

@kalina I highly doubt they'll be charged, it was a genuine mistake.

kalina

anyway #careface over all of this now

Simon

Yep.

kalina

I need to brb like 19 months

RoraΖ

@kalina No idea

TildalWave

13:46

@Simon According to Chief Larry Boyd, Irving Police Department: "The follow-up investigation revealed that the device apparently was a home made experiment, and there's no evidence to support the perception he intended to create alarm." WOT?

kalina

@TildalWave could have built it in a case as that's all that was available and hadn't really put much thought into the packaging

Journeyman Geek

heh

the woz did an actual bomb hoax

Apparently his principal grabbed the 'bomb' ran into a football pitch, and tried to defuse it

TildalWave

yeah that edge of the seat moment when you're not sure if he should take the blue or the red pill in the morning

kalina

the blue pill

every time

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