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David Freitag

19:16

THERE'S A BEEP COMING FROM THE SERVER ROOM AND IT'S DRIVING ME INSAAAAAAAAANE

TildalWave

@RoryAlsop budget

Rory Alsop

hmmm - and the proposal was for removal?

Simon

@RoryAlsop I hope so, it is indeed useless as hell.

WHOOPS, 2 questions in there were asked by both roro

OOPSIES

Rоry McCune

@Simon that said I didn't put that tag on it!

that was @AviD

Simon

Bahahaha.

Silly ovid.

Rоry McCune

19:24

in fact for multiple ones in that tag Mr D was the person in question

Simon

What a donut.

raz

Man I'm super excited for these new design features

Gilles

@raz you mean the new profile page with two tabs, such that the information you want is never on the tab you're viewing?

raz

@Gilles idk, just remember hearing something about new design features

Really I just want the new profile because everyone else has it and complains about it.

So I must be able to have it and complain about it too!

Iszi

19:45

@raz Are we still not there yet?!

Simon

o no it's oszi

Rory Alsop

I eventually saw this new profile nonsense. Not impressed. But then, I don't care as I don't use them :-)

Other than to select the mod option

raz

@Iszi Nope

Again, they hate us so....

Simon

No wonders why they hate us, we have users like begueradj.

TildalWave

@Gilles oh wait, they didn't make it responsive yet :))

Gilles

19:53

@TildalWave ?

TildalWave

hehe joking, but that scared you didn't it?

JukEboX

Argh SEPM is a pain my a**

Gilles

@TildalWave no, I don't understand what you mean

Simon

lolololol

TildalWave

Responsive web design

Responsive web design (RWD) is an approach to web design aimed at crafting sites to provide an optimal viewing and interaction experience—easy reading and navigation with a minimum of resizing, panning, and scrolling—across a wide range of devices (from desktop computer monitors to mobile phones). A site designed with RWD adapts the layout to the viewing environment by using fluid, proportion-based grids, flexible images, and CSS3 media queries, an extension of the @media rule, in the following ways: The fluid grid concept calls for page element sizing to be in relative units like percentages,...

Iszi

19:54

@JukEboX Whose ass isn't it a pain in?

JukEboX

@Iszi people's systems that run liveupdate correctly

Simon

people of walmart

Gilles

@TildalWave I know what responsive design is (it's using 20MB of CSS and JS to recreate the kind of usable sites we had in 1993). I don't understand what's so interesting about the fact that SE haven't made some page responsive.

Simon

dayum gilles went full on donut

TildalWave

let me make a venn diagram then

dude, it was a joke

it ain't as bad as it could be

Simon

20:01

dayum tildol is having fights with everyone today

TildalWave

definitely something wrong with the universe today

Simon

pls

TildalWave

I sense disturbance in the force

Iszi

@TildalWave That's just @Simon's mom rolling over in bed.

Simon

S'IL-VOUS-PLAIT MONSIEUR

Iszi

20:08

I swear, if @Simon ever meets me in person, there's going to be some ex-patricide involved.

Simon

pshtk

JukEboX

20:52

Time to post on the Symantec forums wooooo

-_-

Flyk

@TildalWave hello

David Freitag

Why is it such a difficult decision on which oscilloscope to buy?

Flyk

that's not a decision I find myself with

which one fulfills your needs the most?

David Freitag

@Flyk You could probably equate it to the decision on which pair of shoes to buy.

@Flyk All of them

Flyk

@DavidFreitag die

you could have said anything but it had to be shoes

that's sexist

David Freitag

21:00

It is? I know plenty of dudes who also cannot decide on which pair of shoes to buy...

Flyk

also, if all of them fulfill all of your needs equally, get the one with the highest build quality to price ratio

David Freitag

I don't see what shoes have to do with your genitals.

JukEboX

@DavidFreitag last pair I bought I decided I wanted a pair of Yellow sneakers so I bought them online

David Freitag

I think you may perhaps be doing it wrong.

Flyk

I don't see what shoes have to do with choosing an oscilloscope

David Freitag

21:03

I thought it would be a decent analogy

Flyk

a better analogy would have been synths

that's like a perfect analogy

David Freitag

Since shoes are a more common thing to purchase

Flyk

and it is from the point of view of purchasing synths that I provide my guidance

so bla

David Freitag

@JukEboX Mine are black/grey with mesh and globs of highlighter yellow

They are very knobby on the bottom and they are so called "offroad". I lol'd.

Flyk

why are you buying an oscilloscope?

JukEboX

21:09

LOL of road sneakers?

Iszi

@Flyk So he can scope your oscillo, duh.

David Freitag

Advice: just play it on the PC, it's better anyway. — Lohoris 40 mins ago

PC Master race.

@Flyk It's for work

I could not afford a $5k piece of hardware.

@Iszi Scoping them oscillations man.

@JukEboX Yup, and the mesh is really great. If you take a vacuum and suck air through the mesh it feels amazeballs.

A: Why is Apple using an older version of OpenSSL?

OpenSSL is deprecated officially. It exists (for what little time Apple allows going forward) to not break software that doesn't either migrate to Apple's alternative or bundle SSL internally with the app. See the Apple Developer link for the deprecation announcement: (the other links are easie...

Apparently OpenSSL is officially deprecated. Who knew.

Gilles

21:30

@DavidFreitag at least by Apple and by Android

Iszi

@DavidFreitag Wait... am I reading that right? They want people to roll their own?!

Gilles

@Iszi where do you see that? I see recommendations to use other libraries

Iszi

@Gilles Eh, maybe I'm just reading incorrect implications from: "migrate ... or bundle SSL internally".

David Freitag

100,000,000,000,000 is nowhere NEAR enough bulbs. You need more like 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,‌000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,0‌00,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00‌0,000 bulbs. Give or take a couple of orders of magnitude. — Kyle Oman 3 hours ago

I wonder how much volume 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,‌‌000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000‌,0‌00,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00‌0,00‌0,000 light bulbs would take up.

Iszi

21:46

@DavidFreitag As mentioned in the thread, that number is higher than the number of atoms in the observable universe (by several orders of magnitude, if I'm not mistaken). So, you'd be talking about one fracking huge cluster of light bulbs - in technical terms.

TildalWave

22:27

if they were all connected, how many would have to share an IP address in IPv6 address space?

Iszi

@TildalWave Whoah! Who said anything about smart bulbs now?

@TildalWave Oh, and (without doing the maths) if the number of bulbs is more than double the number of available IPv6 addresses, the answer is easy - all of them.

Well, I mean you could just pile a quintillion metric crap-tonnes of them onto one address and leave the rest to unique owners. But that would be cheating.

Flyk

any sec.se mod around?

TildalWave

@Iszi finally someone that digs lateral thinking!

BTW that thread has awful answers

Iszi

Just looked it up - the number of bulbs is far more than IPv6 address space - the latter is cited as 3.4*(10^38) on Wiki.

TildalWave

and half of it is reserved space or something like that

Iszi

22:36

You'd probably overflow IPv6 space a few millions of million times if you tried to NAT most of them onto one address.