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21:00
I was going to say either @schroeder has kids or questionable taste if he's watching that movie.
@JukEboX not all tags have text explaining them
Oh jeez
TO URBAN DICTIONARY!
Frozen is an example of a movie compiled by committee
I've never seen frozen
@schroeder fixed that for you
21:00
Very true
@Gilles lol thanks
I once met a sales guy who had tried to sell Disney on a product. His powerpoint included images of mickey mouse and used stock username 'mickeym'
HURRY UP 5:30 I AM HUNGRY!
@Herringbone_Cat haahahaha
He got booted from Disney and no one ever talked to him again. Apparently, mickey mouse is sacred there. Like, really sacred. You don't invoke his name.
LOl
@Herringbone_Cat do you know of the YouTuber SWoozie?
21:02
@JukEboX Negative, although my youtube watching seems to consist of henri le chat noir and amplifier breakdowns.
@Herringbone_Cat Look him up. He does a whole series called "The Secret life of a Disney EMployee"
He used to work there until he quit or got fired I don't remember. Talked about shady stuff they do
Someone got a hold of @simon's.donut camera :P
I have found myself almost wishing to be on Disney's animatronics division
I can imagine, Disney has a storied reputation for shadyness. Walt Disney himself made Donald Trump look politically correct
I'm still pissed off at disney for runing my favorite movie ever, the Aristocats (of course), by inserting a racist siamese cat in the best song ever, everyone wants to be a cat.
@Herringbone_Cat I do not remember this.
@DavidFreitag No Don't Then you'll end up like Buckle!!!
21:05
lol
@DavidFreitag Buckle couldn't find his legs!
@DavidFreitag Go on youtube and you can watch the everyone wants to be a cat scene
This is how I see @DavidFreitag as now.
Darn you Dave!
@JukEboX Dude I wish I had a beard like that.
Although, if it did grow in it would be around that color.
Nice deep copper color
I've grown one around that length. It gets really difficult to eat after 6 months of not trimming the mustache tails.
The worst is when your beard gets stuck in your teeth like floss in between teeth. Very suave.
21:10
@DavidFreitag you do know who buckle is though right?
@JukEboX Yes, American Dad.
@DavidFreitag ok good. I make a lot of cartoon jokes
@Herringbone_Cat My facial hair was 0.5" after six months of growing.
@DavidFreitag That's about the rate the hair on the top of my head has been growing. :-P
if only i could arrange a transfer
Not me. That ish comes off every Sunday. Bugs the crap out of me
21:12
@Herringbone_Cat The worst for me was getting it caught under my shoulder when I was sleeping, and so when I'd try to turn my head, I'd find that I couldn't, because I had pinned myself.
@Xander Did you start getting the recurring dreams that your beard had been shaven off or you had shaven it?
@Herringbone_Cat Nope.
@Xander I get those. Seems to be pretty common amongst the bearded.
@Herringbone_Cat Interesting.
@Xander 's worst nightmare
That's a paddlin'
21:16
Hey guys, do you think if I setup an RT N66U as a dedicated OpenVPN router with Merlin, it would be able to handle a two user situation? As in my wife and I use a connection to that router to stay secure in public wifi?
@VianEsterhuizen you mean to call back to your house network from anywhere?
Yes @JukEboX
@JukEboX Ha ha. Unfortunately (or thankfully, perhaps) the beard that I've had for the last few years isn't long enough to be dangerous.
@VianEsterhuizen that should be able to handle 2 users. Speed would be dictated by the WIFI your on though.
@Xander LOL To me any beard is dangerous ;P
morning
21:23
Yeah. I understand that part. I was wondering if the CPU/Ram would affect speed at all because of the encryption. @JukEboX
@VianEsterhuizen Generally routing things through a home internet connection will be painfully slow. Does the router advertise its maximum IPSec throughput?
@Flyk you went to sleep?
am I in the right room
who are these people?
@JukEboX well yes that's what people tend to do when they're tired and the voices finally stop screaming...
@Flyk of course, this is always the right room
@Flyk yes you are. @VianEsterhuizen is asking a question and @Herringbone_Cat is making me look bad :P
@Flyk where you located?
21:25
@JukEboX The dark side of neptune.
@JukEboX that's top secret
I'm just... not even going to answer
@DavidFreitag thank you. Sorry I am stuck in the factual.
@JukEboX it is factual that there is a dark side of neptune
@Flyk neg.
I really need to leave. I make myself look bad here
21:26
everybody makes themselves look bad here
Where is the no nothing IT guy channel?
that's basically the point of the internet
I make myself look like myself.
@JukEboX there is, it's called SuperUser /cc @JourneymanGeek
@Flyk hey hey hey. I have most my rep on SuperUser
21:28
point stands
Ouch
@Herringbone_Cat Hmm, I have no idea but I guess it sounds like I should set up a VPN somewhere externally? The internet speeds at home are 60 Mbps up and 3 Mbps down
I have most of my rep on Arqade
means nothing
coffee needs to hurry up and do
I have most of my rep from association bonus.
@VianEsterhuizen I think you mean 60 down and 3 mbps up? In which case, it will be very slow for your remote connection (3mbps max) since that is your bottleneck. Yes, using a VPN provider or making a cloud server into a VPN concentrator will result in better reliablility and speed.
21:28
I need
I give @DavidFreitag most of his rep
@Herringbone_Cat yeah good point. I forgot about the upload restriction.
I NEED DINNER! STUPID CLOCK GO FASTER
@Flyk Error: Cannot do(not enough go)
hahahah @DavidFreitag
I do not understand your geek joke
Error: Cannot define "do". Please refer to "HELP GO".
21:31
@Herringbone_Cat haha. Yeah, I definitely meant that. Alright. Thanks all. Completely forgot about about the Up speed restriction.
@Flyk It was not a nerd joke. It means your coffee maker lacks the motivation to deliver the nectar of the gods to you.
I didn't say nerd, I said geek
srsly
Sorry Nerd > Geek
What about using a webhost like Dreamhost or something? Is it possible to setup VPN on shared hosting like that? Or should I just aim for AWS/Azure?
@VianEsterhuizen I think that might volate your ToS with you provider.
21:33
@VianEsterhuizen Dreamhost is a web hosting provider for web sites. IN the same vein, there are VPN providers for VPNs, which is what you are looking for. You can also using your own AWS/Azure/etc server, setup whatever you want.
/me does not endorse any VPN or cloud provider because they will all have issues that will be blamed on me
@Flyk what is on today's agenda? Coffee on the viranda? Light gnoche for breakfast. Then off to the counting house for all your monies?
@JukEboX nopes
@Herringbone_Cat I blame you now
and now google is being turned into a mega corporate leviathan called alphabet
today I am writing
21:34
@DavidFreitag question about VPN
@JukEboX potential answer about VPN
I'm waiting for our ray kurzweil-backed-singularity cultists to deploy skynet so I can hail our new corporate overloads from alphabet now
@DavidFreitag if I have a homegroup setup for my house will connecting through the VPN disconnect me from it
after much coffee, some procrastination, some time spent making myself look socially acceptable, some more procrastination
@JukEboX I have no idea, but I don't think so. The VPN client is very similar to the OpenVPN client.
21:35
@Flyk your memoires?
my memories?
@DavidFreitag I have never used it
@Flyk memoirs
no
@DavidFreitag in most cases of using a VPN it completely changes the network "location" you are on from the network you were on to the new network I.E. from your home network to your work network
@JukEboX I'm pretty sure it bridges the local connections, for instance I can still see local printers and file shares etc.
I would be fairly surprised if it did mangle the homegroup.
21:37
@DavidFreitag local printers are direct connections to your PC not network printers.
You should probably just buy a month's subscription and see, it's only $7.99 or something like that...
@DavidFreitag you mean network shares on your home network not the ones on your computer themselves
@JukEboX I meant local network printers
@JukEboX Yes, wifi priters
there are like 30 different zones to connect to, I just use either US East or US West (sometimes US East acts up)
21:39
Anyone have any fun with plugging in 1 LAN port to another LAN port on your home router?
why would that be fun
That used to crash my old work network :P
20 MINUTES
until what?
What VPN provider are you using? I've been using PIA and been pretty happy with it. Just been curious if I can set up a personal one for cheaper. @DavidFreitag
@VianEsterhuizen PIA
21:40
@VianEsterhuizen as if information like that gets shared, ever
who are you?
And cheaper? Dude I pay like $6.99/mo....
@Flyk What do you mean?
@VianEsterhuizen He means your not a regular
@Flyk till I can go home and eat
@Flyk BAM, shared. Not everyone is an information miser like you are.
@JukEboX (she)
@VianEsterhuizen Think of it like this. Would you run a webserver from your home internet connection for your personal website? How about personal e-mail server? Would that result in a lot of emails not coming through when your internet was down/having issues/power out etc?
21:41
@VianEsterhuizen I mean which government agency do you work for that thinks it's a good idea to randomly wander into a chat room full of internet security "experts" (lol) and ask what VPN providers we use?
@DavidFreitag my bad @Flyk
NSA
Called it
Beginning the trace ............
I've not seen Frozen either - and not planning too
lol. One it was openly being talked about already and two, I would have accepted "I'm not willing to tell you."
Nothing wakes you up quite like 240V AC across your chest, whew.
@VianEsterhuizen that's fine, I'm completely harmless, just ignore me
21:43
Someone wind @RoryAlsop up he is about 6 convos behind :P
@RoryAlsop you've not seen FROZEN?!
Hey - I was having gin and catching up
No - it's a Disney
@Flyk Neither have I, what, you wanna fight about it?
you have a Disney vendetta?
@RoryAlsop makes it sound like a disease "It's a Disney"
21:44
I don't do Disney if at all possible
@DavidFreitag it's adorable that you think I'd ever fight you
I may become a regular. I've been looking into all these penetration "testing" platforms out there and didn't realize how vulnerable I was all the time
@RoryAlsop why is that?
@VianEsterhuizen penetration testing is my favorite part
Those I have seen have convinced me that they are trying to turn kids into morons
@Flyk Yeah, heh, what was I thinking. I'd just get a swift kick to the testicles.
21:44
@Flyk oh dear :-)
@VianEsterhuizen what have you used for Pentest?
Shut up NSA @JukEboX
Bic...
@VianEsterhuizen OH NOES SPOTTED!
@RoryAlsop the tag may be gone but the sentiment lives on
21:45
disconnected
I haven't "used" any to be honest. I tried one WPS test on my Router. Didn't work. Turned off WPS anyway. But mostly just looked into the Kali world
And Net ... Runner? Net something for Android
Lot of Linux stuff
I prefer to do penetration testing with a lan star and a netbook.
And a fedex uniform.
@DavidFreitag in a white van?
@JukEboX No, a fedex van. Social engineering is where it's at.
21:48
Is it typical for ISPs when doing home setups to make router PW the same as wifi PSK? That seems sketchy as shit to me
@VianEsterhuizen It's better than admin admin for the password.
@VianEsterhuizen Never trust any device supplied to you by an ISP. Stupid things like default passwords, backdoors etc are nearly ominpresent. They care about how easy it is for them to get into it, not your security.
Not to mention that ^, but they also charge you monthly for the device
hi @simon's.donut o/
It's like a cell phone contract, you will pay easily $50/mo just for the piece of shit modem they offer you.
21:50
It's like that as you get into the enterprise level too
@DavidFreitag True true. The thing is you supply a guest with the pw and bam you've really opened yourself up.
so do what I did and get an Arris Surfboard.
I've got a 2GBPs fiber wave coming into my office here. The ISP put their switch on the internet and was getting constantly hammered by bots trying to brute force it. They noticed when I called support and asked about an issue.. they said "have you been trying to log in from this IP?" and I replied no, but that IP is in China...
It's compatible with pretty damn near every service provider, and it's only $70
So yeah, these dudes exposed their Cisco management interface to the internet and had no brute force protection. Dealing with huge construction, fiber optic, cages at datacenters..the works..still making rookie mistakes
21:52
@Herringbone_Cat This is why I connect bluetooth serial adapters to my management interfaces.
@Flyk oh hello! \o
@Herringbone_Cat Yeah, I knew that too. I changed everything of mine after install but I've also been looking around for a modem. I currently have an AC66U as router.
@simon's.donut how are you?
@simon's.donut Welcome back. How is the bunny? :D
SHUSH WE'RE HAVING DINNER
21:53
@DavidFreitag not so bad and you?!
What the fuck?
How on earth did I manage to ping @Gilles on that one?
@DavidFreitag he's doing very well! .^.^
Wow.
21:54
@Simon from four days ago?
Really?
OMG @simon's.donut is alive! HI ! :wave:
I have no idea what happened.
Hello possibly not imaginary @simon's.donut
@Simon You should step away from the computer for a bit if you're making mistakes like that...
...and leave us alone with @simon's.donut for a bit
Fine, fine.
21:54
It's a good idea and you should certainly definitely do it
I have burritos to eat newayz
@Simon she will be fine
oh, that was easier than expected
So whatevs.
LOL @Flyk
21:55
Yes. Yes she will...
there was no challenge, now I'm bored again
@Simon Wow, you give up your donut for a silly burrito? Wow...
Mwahahahahahahaaaaa
After all he leaves @Flyk with us most of the day
@JukEboX you're not supposed to mention that while @simon's.donut is here
you promised.
I can't believe you'd bring it up, like... straight away
just, in front of everybody like that
21:56
I mean...... well supervised @Flyk
@Flyk well...
what kind of monster ARE YOU!?
@Flyk A platypus.
My bill is itchy
is that a euphemism?
21:56
Get some cream for that
is that a euphemism?
4 MINUTES!!!!
spins around in his chair
Until what? 11pm?
@JukEboX Careful, you're going to get dizzy.
21:57
Awwwwww
@JukEboX your actions seem contradictory
Till I can go home!!!
Let's not get all emotional in here
I came here for logical nerds
@VianEsterhuizen this is far from a logical place
21:59
@VianEsterhuizen some of us are passionate nerds. Not all nerds are into spock-ism
Horry time to go!
I think either @Simon is feeding @simon's.donut or the other way around
Back later !
@JukEboX grats, you killed the chat
:P @Herringbone_Cat I define "nerd" as someone who is very passionate about something.
22:01
@VianEsterhuizen Might have a hard time calling Donald Trump a racist nerd then.
Clearly, he's passionate about that racism though.
hahaha yeah
I'd personally apply my rule there but I'd likely offend nerds everywhere.
you have a rule?
what is it?
12 inches....
@Flyk Don't feed the trolls.
Isn't that the usual punchline
22:03
@RoryAlsop Yeah I wish...
I'm not completely sure what is going on
@Flyk me neither
Are you ever completely sure what is happening?
often
well... most of the time
some of the time?
actually no, I'm never completely sure what's going on but that's most of the fun, no?
So, @simon's.donut what is the bunny's name?
22:08
@Flyk I was just explaining how to me a nerd is just someone who is very passionate about a specific topic. You have photography nerds, web development nerds, board game nerds. What it really boils down to for me is those people are passionate about that certain topic and therefore become very knowledgeable about it.
@DavidFreitag we haven't decided on a name yet, though we call him Bunbun for now
@VianEsterhuizen really depends on which part of society you're speaking to as to what nerd means
aww
22:10
Oh god cuteness overload
You should probably imgur that, like an hour ago.
That's FP-worthy material right there.
hehe he's quite feisty!
Yeah, this is getting a bit out of hand. Was just explaining how I personally look at it. Did mean to turn it into a thing
@VianEsterhuizen it's not a thing
Since my mom took her unaffectionate cat away, I am pretty much alone. All I have are my electrons. Lots, and lots of them.
22:23
Heading out. Thanks for all the info everyone
22:36
well, that's me looking socially acceptable
I guess since it's dead here I'll skip the second round of procrastination and get more coffee
have fun o/
23:16
Everybody panic
It's been eight minutes without a new .js framework
23:31
@etherealflux Ut oh. Let's gas up some college students and have them hold an all night hackathon to create a new one. Because, it's so rad.
you know that time between arriving and doing stuff? Yeah... that
too early in the morning for my liking this
right well, blah
bai o/

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