The DMZ

schroeder

00:04

@Simon ahem - my answer helped :P

bows

AviD

00:28

@Simon they only give out shirts to the real candidates

JukEboX

01:29

Evening

Jeroen - IT Nerdbox

03:30

Good morning everyone

tylerl

04:06

evening

TildalWave

05:47

morning

Jeroen - IT Nerdbox

morning

Rory Alsop

07:12

@AviD yes

(sorry - was catching up on emails after 6 days of far too much fun)

is weird being back in the office for just 2 days and then weekend again

Journeyman Geek

lol

I have 4 days of work this week, and 4 days of leave

hoping the shops are open tommorrow. Planning on a video card upgrade and some 4K gaming ;p

(9th is a holiday. tommorrow and monday are extra cause its our 50th anniversery of getting kicked out of malaysia ;p)

Gilles

@JourneymanGeek oh, you have 8-day weeks?

Journeyman Geek

@Gilles: naw ;p

but tuesdays can be the best kind of mondays.

Rory Alsop

@JourneymanGeek I spent Friday to Monday at a huge party down south, with hot tub, water slides, outside catering, many many pilots and some planes; then my Bedford Autodrome day racing everything (Caterhams, Ariel Atoms, Le Mans cars, BMW M4 GTPs, karts, offroaders and Formula 3000)

Body bruised and bashed, grinning like a loon

Journeyman Geek

;p

So the rockstar life? ;p

Rory Alsop

07:23

@JourneymanGeek definitely!

M'vy

07:35

hell there!

Flyk

no it's only warm here

Gilles

@M'vy bonjou

Journeyman Geek

hell's a cold place in norway apparently

Rоry McCune

Morning all

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Q: Implementing WEP into my office infrastructure

If I am implementing WEP into my office infrastructure, which application should I be less concerned about? File Share Traffic Printer Traffic Exchange Mail Server Traffic SSL Traffic Answer would be appreciated with appropriate reasoning.

wep

^ see we've got another homework question.

Flyk

@RоryMcCune I find it unacceptable that you check the site before saying hello to us

Gilles

07:36

he's doing wep, I'm doing weep

Flyk

check your priorities

Rоry McCune

@Flyk it was like the top question :)

Flyk

irrelevant, I'm not even dressed

Rоry McCune

@Flyk anyway I'm on a mission to regain my top-10 spot

Flyk

I thought I would say hi before starting my day

Rоry McCune

07:37

I've almost caught the finn

Flyk

oh, you want totally uncoordinated definitely not prearranged upvotes?

say no more

wink wink nudge nudge

Journeyman Geek

I'm tempted to answer "Your ****ing wireless you ******" ;p

Rоry McCune

@Flyk heh

Flyk

congratulations on getting me to actually visit a SE site on purpose for the first time in like forever

I shall ensure there are repercussions

Rоry McCune

@Flyk ahh, oh dear... :op

Journeyman Geek

08:03

It's a question from Cryptography Trivia Quiz and I believe it should be SSL traffic. Even, if an attacker succeeds to compromise the WEP network, SSL encrypted traffic will not be readable. What's your opinion? — Ray 10 mins ago

That sounds like cheating to me

Rоry McCune

@JourneymanGeek depends on the terms of the quiz I guess. assuming they're allowed google/the Internet in general, TBH this information isn't mega-hard to find...

Flyk

If the threshold for asking a question was that the answer was "hard to find", Stack Exchange would have 1% of its current questions

Rоry McCune

@Flyk yeah and most the the remaining ones wouldn't have many votes

all my highest scores are on basic questions

which kind of makes sense as the answers are likely to be applicable more widely

Flyk

I'm not sure if perhaps I originally opened this from a link in this room but this seems like the sort of thing you people would be interested in

money.cnn.com/2015/08/05/technology/radio-hack/index.html

Thinking about it, it would be logical I opened it from in here

Rоry McCune

@Flyk yeah I think that one was around yesterday at some point, it's an interesting hack for sure, even if not the most practical ..

Flyk

08:18

I'm setting an easy goal for today: viewing all of the tabs I have opened, reading their contents, and then closing them without opening more tabs

and then I will be up to date and be able to close my browser

this activity shouldn't require anything more than a steady supply of coffee

Rоry McCune

@Flyk just hope that one of the tabs isn't reddit or similar with lots of interesting looking links on it :)

Flyk

I don't reddit

Rоry McCune

@Flyk good plan

Flyk

08:36

not that I designate much personal time that doesn't involve being asleep these days, but my personal time browsing is generally limited to like 8 sites

of which you guys get the vast majority of it

(except the other day when I TV Tropes'd all day)

Terry Chia

@Flyk We are flattered.

Rоry McCune

@Flyk well how could you resist the heady combination of @Simon and @AviD ?!

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune Oh god. Imagine if those 2 had a baby.

Flyk

@RоryMcCune you know I think it's more of a comfort/familiarity thing. I spent a large portion of my childhood idling on IRC... this seems... familiar

Rоry McCune

@TerryChia why 'cause I'm looking to be naseous?

Flyk

08:39

regardless of how weird and unexpected my life gets, I can just come here and poke holes at Simon for a bit and everything is normal

Terry Chia

Rоry McCune

@Flyk hmm, makes sense. For me it somewhat replaces the work chit-chat that I don't get 'cause I work from home :)

Terry Chia

Interesting...

Flyk

@RоryMcCune it's perplexing. I dropped my activity site wide overnight but can't get over chat

Rоry McCune

@Flyk yeah even when I'm not in a question answering mode I turn up on chat most days. think that's the same for quite a few people..

Flyk

08:43

I quit drugs cold turkey and yet I still turn up here

Rоry McCune

@Flyk well nothing too much wrong with a bit of chat :)

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune Don't think I answered a question in months.

Yeah, last answer in April.

Rоry McCune

@TerryChia no you were on track for overtaking me for a while and you've dropped back a bit since then...

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune Says a lot about site activity that most of the current top 20 aren't really that active in answering anymore.

Flyk

I think I'm still in the top 10 on Arqade

I doubt that will change any time in the next year or two

Rоry McCune

08:50

@TerryChia well the bears are still actively answering AFAIK

Flyk

Think the "top users are the inactive ones" is consistent across the network maybe

SE don't care though, they got their value from us

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune Yeah, them and a few others.

@Adi basically stopped.

Flyk

one thing has been consistent this week

I have completely failed at my job

20+ hours trying to make this kickdrum sound right

still failing

killed chat

+award

M'vy

09:05

@Flyk you already have this one since long :)

Unless this can be awarded multiple times?

Flyk

one per kill, yes

It would be quite epic to only win once regardless of the number of infractions

that means you could commit genocide and only receive a single life sentence

Rоry McCune

@Flyk probably as our collective ability to advise on good kick-drumming is... somewhat limited :)

Flyk

just like my ability to advise on security matters

"The mystery of the female orgasm"

what an article name

Rory Alsop

@Flyk Is this entirely subjective (ie listening to it over and over again while tweaking) or more objective (tweaking the waveform to get a precise shape)?

@Flyk exactly - it just perpetuates that it is elusive/uncommon etc

@Flyk My rep on Workplace just overtook my Arqade rep. Both almost at 1k - go me! ;-P

Flyk

09:23

@RoryAlsop entirely contextual, the kick sounds find solo, the rest of the track sounds fine without the kick, both of them together doesn't sound right

AviD

@RoryAlsop yes yes, as in, yes that same link to google forms is still correct?

Flyk

the worst of it is, I'm not sure if there's actually a problem or if I just don't like it

AviD

and what is the current process for sponsorships...?

Flyk

I have written another track this week while getting annoyed with that one

Rory Alsop

@AviD The link was still correct last time I used it - and it doesn't appear to have changed

Flyk

09:24

and had that completely written, mixed and mastered within the day I wrote it + the morning after

AviD

@RoryAlsop cool cool, thanks!

Rory Alsop

@AviD For sponsorships I think it is much more fluid - speak to a CM and ask. I did a small business case for the one time I had SE sponsor our car in the Whitehat Rally charity car run

basically listing audience, reason etc

AviD

ahhh yeeeahh that was awesome

Rory Alsop

@Flyk that's a bit impressive

Flyk

@RoryAlsop not really... it only takes about an hour to do the arrangement, an hour or two of sound design and then an hour or two to mix it

Rory Alsop

09:27

@Flyk in principle I'd offer my listening services, however 2 flaws present themselves 1) I may not be your target audience (although that could work both ways, really) and 2 ) OpSec fail

Flyk

depends if I have written the bulk of the track in my head before I start writing it

Rory Alsop

@Flyk I tend to have a song writing timescale of about a month from initial riff. And then it can be tweaked for years afterwards :-)

Flyk

if I've already written the lead melody before I start actually producing the track, the arrangement will usually only take 30 minutes for a rough layout

Terry Chia

Looks like OPM got the Fail pwnie award.

Pwnies'15 Best client-side: @j00ru Lifetime Award: @halvarflake Lamest Vendor: BlueCoat Overhyped: Shellshock Fail: OPM 0wnage: HackingTeam

Tweeted by fel1x on August 6, 2015 at 7:27 AM

Flyk

09:59

I saw flags

I clicked valid on all of them

AviD

I saw the sign

Rоry McCune

0

Q: Open Udp Port Scanner

i just Wanna know That which Port scanner Can scan My ISP's All open Port which can I connect through any vpn. also wanna know cmd code for that

penetration-test vpn udp scanner

ow ow ow my brain

AviD

@RоryMcCune missed your vtc

Rоry McCune

@AviD it hurt my head too bad, and hey you can do it in a onner :op

AviD

onner?

ONNER?? I HARDLY KNOW 'ER!!

really? nothing? I especially thought @RоryMcCune would like that one....

> 1. Freeze peanut butter cup
2. Roll in flour
3. Dip in cake batter
4. Deep fry
5. Dust with powdered sugar
6. Eat
7. You’re welcome

Flyk

10:16

@AviD I froze a peanut butter cup and then rolled around in flour and dipped myself in cake batter but I don't want to fry myself

AviD

lol

still sounds delicious

Flyk

so I skipped straight to dusting myself with powdered sugar and eating myself

I taste pretty good if I do say so myself

AviD

with powdered sugar, sure

powdered sugar could make a horse's butt taste good

NOT that I am calling YOU a horse's butt, cuz I'm not

Rory Alsop

@Flyk hmmm (takes notes for the weekend...)

Flyk

@AviD not publicly, anyway

Arperum

10:25

@AviD So you are implying that you've tried horse butt with powdered sugar?

Flyk

he did say "could", that's not a commitment

Steve DL

whats up with all the sandboxing questions today!?

Arperum

@Flyk True, but I conveniently ignored that part.

Rory Alsop

And it is a reasonable supposition. Horse is meat after all, and meat tastes good.

(assumptions include washing it first, shaving it...)

Rоry McCune

@RoryAlsop and @AviD 's got to try stuff out to fill the bacon-shaped hole in his appetite!

Flyk

10:33

@SteveDL sandboxing is the best part

@RoryAlsop I disagree, meat doesn't taste good

meat tastes like the murder of innocents who couldn't defend themselves

even bacon.

Steve DL

@Flyk i'm on Sec.SE only for those, so yup! Can't be bothered to reply to security.stackexchange.com/questions/96004/… any more though

Rory Alsop

@Flyk See, to me, plant life doesn't taste good. It tastes like the murder of innocents who not only can't defend themselves, but are fixed to the ground and unable to scream. Because they are plants...

Plants are the food my food eats

@RоryMcCune mmmm, bacon]

@Flyk Admittedly this causes conflict in Metaltech, which is 1/3 vegetarian...

Rоry McCune

@RoryAlsop s'easy order 3 ordinary meals, give the inevitable side salads to the veggie and split the rest between the other two :)

Rory Alsop

@RоryMcCune hahahahahaha - well, in reality, as Erik Tricity survives on alcohol and nicotine, we order 1 ordinary meal and one veggie, and Lord Thrapston Flagellator gets the Insidious Doktor Mayhem's salad

@SteveDL You're on only for the bacon?

Actually - I do like your commentary on that question. You not tempted to add an answer...?

Flyk

I guess I'm alone in my quest to consume 1500 calories of salad each day

which works well

Rory Alsop

10:43

@Flyk wow - that's a lot of salad!

Flyk

nobody questions when a vegetarian is absent mindedly practicing fellatio on a carrot

Rory Alsop

@Flyk that's cause the DMZ does not have video capability

my wife is currently on a huge intake of salad and healthy stuff, so volume-wise she is eating about 4 times what I eat :-)

is crazy

but her PT has her doing hours of training a week, so it seems to work out

Flyk

if the DMZ had video capability it would only happen once and then you'd most likely make an unwritten rule between yourself to just watch and not complain

since... boys

Rory Alsop

Oh - on attacking space stations/satellites:

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Q: Space Station Battle: Could the Almaz gun depressurize the ISS?

Background The second Soviet Almaz military space station both had and tested an externally-mounted autocannon, specifically a Rikhter R-23 (according to some sources). It had 32 rounds of ammunition. The gun was fixed to the station such that the only way to aim was to rotate the entire statio...

iss history debris shielding almaz

@Flyk you missed "and record..."

Flyk

@RoryAlsop I find that running and dancing fulfill my exercise requirements

Rory Alsop

10:45

I'm guessing, obviously.

Flyk

@RoryAlsop it is genuinely absent mindedness, I don't even know how it happens

Rory Alsop

@Flyk lol - I'm sure it doesn't cause problems. Although if you're in front of an interview board or something and you start doing it, you may give an odd impression

Flyk

I'm not sure I'd be eating a carrot in an interview

or... be in an interview at any point in my life

maybe being the interviewer

but then it could just be an attention test

Rory Alsop

I was trying to think of what occasions would have you sat in a formal setting like that based on the limited knowledge I have of you - and I couldn't come up with any so just went with a known scenario

AviD

@RоryMcCune @RoryAlsop @Arperum as @Flyk said, it was merely a supposition. I assure you, I have no appetite for horse meat, butts or otherwise.

and for the record @RoryAlsop, I was referring to it in butt form, not meat form.

aaaand this conversation is again too weird for me.

@Flyk right. Delicious.

@RoryAlsop hey, thats MY line!

also - if we're not supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of meat?

if we shouldnt eat meat, why does it taste so gooooood?

@Flyk @Flyk isn't a vegetarian because she loves animals, she's a vegetarian because she hates vegetables

@RoryAlsop police interrogation.

Rory Alsop

10:59

@AviD hahahahahaha

Arperum

@AviD I wouldn't call "practicing fellatio" "hate", but that's just me.

Steve DL

@RoryAlsop I'm too busy to contribute these days but I still have my priorities sorted ;-)

Rоry McCune

@AviD well that would explain what you were up to whilst in the netherlands anyway :op

Rory Alsop

@SteveDL lol. Fair enough

AviD

11:24

0

Q: A fledgling idea: Relational Encryption

I've been spending my spare time coming up with the basis for an encryption algorithm. I am completely unfamiliar with computer programming, but my time as a Network Technician left me incredibly familiar with binary. I was playing around with numbers on a paper at work one day (being a Network...

encryption cryptography

yaaaay! people, we just revolutionized encryptions!

and "I am completely unfamiliar with computer programming," so you know its good!

Rory Alsop

we should let everyone flag as off topic

if they need flags

AviD

damn you stole my second

raz

@AviD Dude he's a network tech, he's awesome with binary

AviD

@raz wait wait, binary?? Why didnt you say so!! If we can do it in binary, we dont even NEED encryption!

@RoryAlsop I like how we double teamed him with a swarm of comments that will probably destroy him, or at least his weekend.

I do feel a bit bad about that...

raz

@AviD Now just port it to the cloud to secure synergy and we're good to go!

@AviD I like how he says, "Allow me to illustrate this", and then writes a paragraph

Couldn't "Relational Encryption" just be called Encoding?

AviD

11:34

@raz without looking at it in depth, it seemed to me to have some similarities with a one time pad.

a bad implementation thereof, but still.

raz

ah, I can see that

Rory Alsop

@AviD you stole my third - had to ninja edit

AviD

@RoryAlsop as did I

actually the doubleteaming was fun

not talking about @Simon's mom

this time

hey @Flyk, when @Simon's donut comes to spend the day here tomorrow, AS HE PROMISED, you might want to share this with her. Yknow, just to make things fun.

I'm sorry, that was a terrible thing to say.

Flyk

@AviD I'm going to bookmark this, it looks like it could come in handy

I've always found it awkward telling people how little we have in common and now I have a letter I can print

AviD

well, if not handy, at least fun. In a sadistic kinda way.

Flyk

11:48

I wish there was a real life ignore function

AviD

there is, but it takes a while to take effect

Flyk

I wish there was amendment to what constitutes murder to make "cleaning up a former relationship" excempt

Rory Alsop

@Flyk hahahaha

raz

I wish there was a block in real life function

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