The DMZ

TildalWave

12:00 AM

how about a room lined with Helmholtz resonant absorbers tuned to your mother in law's voice pitch? :D

David Freitag

I don't have a mother in law

Or even a girlfriend for that matter

TildalWave

well you get the idea ... you'd hear anyone else but whoever they're tuned to

David Freitag

I'm not sure there is anyone I wouldn't want to hear from. Perhaps Jimmy Fallon.

tylerl

4:59 AM

Update on the password hashing customer. They've stopped storing plaintext passwords in their database now.

They have switched to base64-encoding their plaintext passwords before storing them.

baby steps, I guess.

Lucas Kauffman

5:58 AM

@tylerl Don't you work for Google?

They do consulting?

@tylerl You should try slapping them in the face with a wet fish

Rory Alsop

@DavidFreitag @TildalWave this may be able to do something similar

kickstarter.com/projects/dopplerlabs/…

David Freitag

@RoryAlsop oooh that's cool

Buuuuut not for $180

Adi

@RoryAlsop Man. That's sooo futuristic sh*t

Adi

6:47 AM

Man, this Greece thing is sooo funny at this point.

They voted for a government that refused austerity.

They had a referendum and they refused the bailout

Now they're accepting the bailout and approved more austerity

TildalWave

@RoryAlsop active noise cancellation?

M'vy

Hell there ! :)

TildalWave

again? can't be a coincidence

Rory Alsop

@TildalWave very active - choose which noises you want to cancel. Or boost. Turn up the bass at a gig - in your own head!

or remove the bass altogether if your bass player is out of tune :-)

TildalWave

@RoryAlsop well yes you just play with timing and get all that

M'vy

7:00 AM

@TildalWave yeah that one was on purpose. Cause now I find it funny :)

TildalWave

funny they'd be called Doppler Labs :) because that's how it would work

@M'vy hell to you too then :)

M'vy

^^

Lucas Kauffman

55 Gallons of Lube? Customers Complain That Amazon #PrimeDay Sales Are Terrible http://thr.cm/Lvk91O #PrimeDayFail http://t.co/1EPKL3kGja

Tweeted by THR on July 16, 2015 at 12:42 AM

Adi

Oh no, don't bring back the DMZ Lubegate again!

Lucas Kauffman

I was told this was recommended by zookeepers. My uncle in Botswana needs some lube for his elephants. How much lube will he need per mating?

A: Tell your Uncle a little foreplay goes a long way. Perhaps if he rubs the elephants belly or kisses her neck, he won't need the lube

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AviD

7:25 AM

@LucasKauffman HAHAHAHAHAHA

Rory Alsop

@AviD erm...wut?

AviD

@RoryAlsop yeah.

Nothing needs to be said about this photo. In fact nothing needs to be said at all, ever again.

Lucas Kauffman

that's very disturbing

Rory Alsop

7:43 AM

I know - it should be a long horn

On it's head

to be a proper pantsicorn

Rоry McCune

@Adi yeah I know it is super odd, if they'd just taken that approach 6 months ago, they would've save themselves a massive amount of money/hardship!

TildalWave

@AviD move closer and farther with your eyes to the screen and tell me that you also see those pants move, please!

AviD

oh, they're moving alright. nothing to do with my eyes.

Apparently elephant lube and unicorns go well together.

^ a sentence I never thought would ever make sense.

Rory Alsop

@AviD or ever be said/written

AviD

@RoryAlsop oh no, I fully expected to say something of that sort at some point.

Rory Alsop

7:52 AM

@AviD hahahaha

Lucas Kauffman

9:01 AM

I wonder what people who read my election submission think who have no clue about who llamas with hats are

M'vy

9:19 AM

I am having trouble parsing that sentence

Rory Alsop

@LucasKauffman I'm just happy you corrected the spelling

TildalWave

@M'vy He wonders what people who read his election submission think who have no clue about who llamas with hats are :)

M'vy

9:36 AM

argh argh

punctuation!

people (who read his election submission) -> think who have ???

Rory Alsop

@M'vy English is a wonderful language

M'vy

is it "What people think" ? and people who read and have no clue about <...> ?

Rory Alsop

of those people who read it, some have no clue about llamas. Lucas wonders what that subset think

Adi

9:51 AM

Man, I fully regret being excited about Arabic.SE (and subsequently signing up).

I completely forgot that there will be a high number of cross-user-base with Islam.SE

That shit backfired soo bad that I had to leave the community after less than 12 hours of it being in private beta (even after made about 10 posts)

M'vy

@Adi you mean it's lost beyond recovery ?

Rory Alsop

@Adi woah - that bad?

Adi

I was explaining a well-established and well-researched translation practice used to translate "untranslatable" stuff from Arabic to English. I used an example from the Qura'an (given my good knowledge of the Qura'an and its literary structure).

A user called Ulkoma remembered me from a question on Travel.SE

He had asked me on Travel.SE if I were a Muslim, and I said no

He was so offended by me being an ex-Muslim that he went on a downvote rampage

AviD

@Adi that is also the guy with all the bulletproof gold bazookas.

Adi

@AviD Yes

AviD

9:56 AM

and he lurks here once in a while

Adi

He was extremely disrespectful in the chat, while I was trying to be respectful to him

M'vy

trolls gonna troll

AviD

@Adi oh thats sweet

Adi

@M'vy He wasn't rolling

AviD

@M'vy @Adi yeah man, just shake it off

Adi

9:57 AM

In fact, an Islam.SE mod tried to end the situation but he still implicitly took the guy's side

I tried to reason with him, but nooope chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/22802886#22802886

M'vy

@Adi the arabic.se has no dedicated mods?

AviD

@Adi wait, was this rampage on Islam.se or Arabic.se? or Travel.se?

Adi

@M'vy Not yet, I don't think so.

AviD

@M'vy those usually get appointed after moving to public beta. They are in their first day of private beta...

Adi

@AviD It started on Travel.SE when he asked me about my religious beliefs a few days ago.

@AviD Then he continued on Arabic.SE

(I'm not a member of Islam.SE)

M'vy

9:59 AM

@Adi is that relevant to travel?

Adi

@M'vy Well, he explicitly included that in his question. He even started it with "I'm a Muslim"

His problem, as many Muslims I know, is that he was threatened by the possibility of this non-Muslim knowing shit more than him.

Ugghh

M'vy

:)

Adi

I spent some time explaining to him my credentials, the sources of my knowledge, and how I've come to know about these topics

AviD

@Adi isnt that just the fundamentalist Muslims?

Adi

Nooooope

@AviD To be honest, bring an Atheist to any church in the world and get him in a discussion with a Christian who doesn't know too much about Christianity and see how it will go

AviD

10:02 AM

@Adi heh true

Adi

The problem with here is that people confuse membership with knowledge

Muslim and Christian isn't the same as doctor and engineer

M'vy

indeed

Adi

You can't be a member of the doctor community without the knowledge, otherwise you're not a doctor

(barring some exceptions)

While you can just happen to be born Jewish, Muslim, or Christian, and become one

with zero knowledge

AviD

@Adi ah , youre thinking of the heurmentutics site.

or... however thats spelled.

Biblical Hermeneutics

Adi

I spent nearly 11 summers doing nothing but studying the Qura'an (one of the reasons I later became an atheist)

but, according to many people, the very fact that I became an atheist is an indication to my poor knowledge

Which is exactly what that member has said

M'vy

10:05 AM

@Adi had I time, I'd research and read about religions.

Rоry McCune

@Adi so kinda like PHP developer?

Adi

and that's, exactly, is the reason for the issue I had there at Arabic.SE

@RоryMcCune :D

AviD

@RоryMcCune heh, I was about to say something like that about some pentesters...

Adi

@M'vy I was young, and I grew up in a Muslim family. Plus, it was a tradition to go to an Islamic "school" in the summer

Rоry McCune

@AviD hey hey hey, knowing the switches on nmap and nessus is tricky!

Adi

10:06 AM

I'm soooo glad that my parents sent me

M'vy

@Adi Well, most people are raised in a religious family.

Adi

Otherwise, I'd probably be that Ulkoma dude

M'vy

:)

Adi

This actually reminds me of something funny happened when I saw one of my brothers a while ago

After we got into a religious discussion, I said to him

> You know, we grew up in the same family, read the same books, had the same traditions, and yet ended up very very different people when it comes to this. What do you think happened?

AviD

@Adi a while back when they started judaism.se, there was discussion of a similar split as between Islam.se and arabic.se - split between the religion and the language. Turns out there are even more aspects - culture? food? living in specific countries? government? etc etc - and they decided to wrap it all up in one site.

Adi

10:10 AM

He said

> Well, one of us read, understood, and learned. The other, just read without learning.

I was so surprised by his level of self-awareness

AviD

luckily, from what I can see at least, the few fundamentalists there are pretty well contained, and everybody else is very pleasant and welcoming, at least.

Adi

I almost had a tear in my eye

Then he said "and you should have learned more to understand more like me"

:D

The asshole!

AviD

@Adi lol, was gonna say

Adi

@AviD This is indeed how splits usually go. They find a way to widen to many areas

@AviD In all honesty, I do think that this is what will happen to Arabic.SE eventually

I just don't want to be part of that process

I have enough stress already

AviD

I think there is less of a cohesiveness between the language and religion, as with Judaism and Hebrew. Then again, I could be wrong.

Take Turkey, for example - mostly Muslim, but not Arabs. Then take Sudan (I think?) - mostly Arabs, but not Muslims.

@Adi fair enough, makes sense.

any community that has that level of toxicity isnt worth the effort of being in.

Adi

10:16 AM

@AviD Indeed

Rory Alsop

@Adi It looked like the mod was more on your side, which is good. That travel meta post got weirder with the addition of his books...

I am baffled why he plans to a) meet me and b) ask me for a CISSP reference

Adi

@RoryAlsop Perhaps I misread the mod's action

Rory Alsop

WHen all of our interactions make me very unlikely to do either

Adi

but I didn't like that he specifically chose the "don't serve it" part

Rory Alsop

@Adi yeah - could have been a bit more robust

Adi

10:27 AM

Again, could be completely benign and I misread it due to the hostility of the situation in general.

@RoryAlsop Wait, what?

He wants a CISSP reference from you? On what basis?

Do you know him outside SE?

Rory Alsop

@Adi On the comment chain one one of his posts he pointed out he couldn't be a troll as he had passed CISSP from the stuff he learned in here so was going to ask me for a ref.

@Adi nope

@Adi And on his travel meta post with the books picture he has stated he really wants to meet me

disconcerting.,..

Adi

@RoryAlsop Oh yeah, I saw that one

He was trying to prove he's not a troll by showing pictures of the Qura'an

Solid logic

:D

Rory Alsop

Even I have a copy of the Qura'an

It lives next to my St. James Bible

Adi

@RoryAlsop That's 100% proof you're both Muslim and Christian

Rory Alsop

Or 100% proof that I am an atheist but like to annoy friends of mine who are religious by pointing out their fallacies when they try to justify things by saying their holy book told them to do it :-)

AviD

10:37 AM

@Adi or 100% proof that he is a lapsed Jew/Hindu/Buddhist.

Adi

@AviD Clearly! :D

AviD

(to be clear that "/" is designating "OR" not some strange merging of all 3...)

ManishEarth

We at @mozilla are looking for a Sec Engineer to help implement TLS 1.3 for Gecko and work on other crypto features: https://hire.jobvite.com/Jobvite/Job.aspx?b=nnKZMrwO&j=oJ1p1fwU

Tweeted by ttaubert on July 16, 2015 at 10:36 AM

hear ye hear ye

thar be jobs

AviD

@ManishEarth seriously why do companies still use jobvite? it is so horrid.

@ManishEarth also, was 1.3 finished being specified?

ManishEarth

@AviD Mozilla's hiring story isn't great; they're working on improving it though

In other news, I can work for Microsoft (India) next year if I choose to, got an offer :D

cc @Xander

AviD

10:41 AM

@ManishEarth Mozilla is a funny company. As a company, they are highly respected and very interesting. But none of their products can say the same.

@ManishEarth woot! good for you!

ManishEarth

Sadly despite having citizenship I can't transfer that offer to one of the Redmond teams; that's where all the stuff I'm interested in is :P

@AviD Yeah, but most of their products compete with an army and still come out pretty decently

i.e. firefox

AviD

@ManishEarth how so? I dont see that the case at all. E.g. take firefox.

Rоry McCune

@AviD hey, some of us like Firefox!

ManishEarth

Last year at Portland, we had all skilled employees (incl non-programmers), as well as volunteers like me, and that was 1.1k people. That's all of Mozilla

AviD

@RоryMcCune hehehehehe, good one

ManishEarth

10:43 AM

It has a wider community, of course, but paid employees are quite few

Rоry McCune

@AviD it's my main browser of choice on all platforms it's offered on

ManishEarth

Contrast that to Microsoft where probably three floors of the building I'm in would add up to that number

The Firefox team is pretty small compared to what IE probably has.Same with chrome

AviD

@ManishEarth hmm true, so that would explain it.

but isnt FF mostly developed by the community?

ManishEarth

They're respected because they're usually the underdog and fight for the user/openness. A lot of their funds go into totally nonprofit things like promoting the web or teaching or other things.

@AviD Ish. Community is huge. Volume of contributions is large, but not that large

Major features are still worked upon by core employees

I mean, contributors can work on major stuff

just that it's very rare for that to happen

In Servo we've got it a bit different, contributors regularly work on large things

Though "large" for Servo is a different size than "large" for firefox

ManishEarth

I love your election noms btw

Rory Alsop

10:51 AM

@AviD I can't read Hebrew. I would like to learn, but feel it may take too long

AviD

@RoryAlsop it has a very different format and structure from most (european) languages, so it would probably be difficult, unless you already know a similar language (like Arabic).

Rory Alsop

@RоryMcCune is it now less bloaty/memory hogging? Might give it a try again

@AviD Sadly no - English, German and Spanish is all I have

AviD

that said, after the first hurdles, you get how logical the structure is, and makes it easier to learn the rest.

Rory Alsop

@ManishEarth you like all of them?

Rоry McCune

@RoryAlsop well all the browsers are a bit bloaty TBH but I've not found FFox particularly bad in that regard..

AviD

10:54 AM

@RoryAlsop RTL is the first big difference :-)

ManishEarth

@RoryAlsop no, just the funny ones and the llama ones

AviD

and the language rules are a lot more solid.

Rory Alsop

heh - you missed @Iszi's one. Oh, and @Jefff's

AviD

@ManishEarth so, most of them.

Rory Alsop

@AviD and the character set -

AviD

10:55 AM

@RoryAlsop yeah that too :-)

Rory Alsop

@AviD My kids are getting a year of Mandarin at school - and I am no help to them :-(

AviD

e.g. in English there are a whole lot of unconnected rules, For any given rule, there are any number of arbitrary exceptions, in various types - that you have to just know.

Rоry McCune

@RoryAlsop just give them a satsuma :)

AviD

in hebrew, the rules are connected, and even the exceptions have rules to follow.

@RoryAlsop ha, thats a tough one. Start by getting them a lot of rings.

(^ Iron Man reference....)

Rory Alsop

@RоryMcCune instantrimshot.com

Rоry McCune

10:57 AM

@RoryAlsop you're a dad, dad jokes are expected of you :)

AviD

@RoryAlsop aaahhhh! site is offline!

Rory Alsop

@AviD lol

AviD

oh wait

Rory Alsop

@AviD oh - that's no good

AviD

ftfy

also, site needs updating to remove flash :-(

AviD

11:09 AM

@RоryMcCune WOW I am slow. Just got that now.

Rоry McCune

:)

AviD

guess I was too hung up on MY dad joke

Terry Chia

11:32 AM

@ManishEarth Ah, you work for Microsoft now?

AviD

The Ultimate Dad Joke Duel

►

ManishEarth

@TerryChia Currently an intern

Terry Chia

@ManishEarth Cool.

ManishEarth

Back to college on Monday though

Rоry McCune

12:29 PM

@AviD a 2nd College Humor channel........ thank you for that blow to my productivity

AviD

hehe

Journeyman Geek

12:48 PM

heh. This show is getting strange,

AviD

@JourneymanGeek Mr. Robot, I'm guessing?

Journeyman Geek

yup

The hackery stuff still dosen't annoy. THe rest of it is totally surreal ;p

AviD

so, you're about 6 minutes in.

and it gets more so.

@JourneymanGeek the fact that the hackery stuff doesnt annoy IS surreal.

Journeyman Geek

Oh, i'm 36 min in ;p

@AviD like the raspberry pi references? ;p

AviD

all of them. It's like the showrunners have actually seen a computer. Shocking.

unlike the other cyber shows around now...

Scorpion and CSI:Cyber.

Journeyman Geek

12:55 PM

I'm still unsure if mr robot is real tho

lol

didn't even watch those ;p

AviD

the one thing that does bother me about the hackery stuff - the guy's main hacking trick is brute forcing passwords, but everybody considers him to be some elite super hacker.

Still, that actually is just like in real life.

Journeyman Geek

and guessing

he does mention a LOT of social engineering

AviD

@JourneymanGeek except that he doesnt really do it, he just thinks he does it

again, much like real life

Journeyman Geek

oh, EVERYTHING in the show might be a drug addled dream

Even the dog

AviD

@JourneymanGeek might not

we dont know yet

Journeyman Geek

12:57 PM

That's the beauty of it

AviD

buddytv.com/articles/mr-robot/…

Journeyman Geek

I'm also unsure about the hacker chick

not the one in the headscarf.

Thomas Pornin

@Adi Yup. In fact, the referendum was not about deciding about austerity or not; it was a trick used by Tsipras to retake control of his own political base.

Lucas Kauffman

@ThomasPornin and a way to say "you chose it yourself" if the vote had ended in a yes

@AviD What's his cyber level?

AviD

@LucasKauffman OVER 9000!!

Rory Alsop

1:09 PM

@AviD I didn't get it - probably as I don't really know Iron Man

Rоry McCune

@AviD they had some technical advice from someone who knows at least something about the field twitter.com/inteltechniques

AviD

one of his main bad guys is The Mandarin

Rory Alsop

@AviD ahh - ok

AviD

Mandarin (comics)

The Mandarin is a fictional supervillain that appears in comic books published by Marvel Comics. He is the archenemy of Iron Man. The character was created by Stan Lee and designed by Don Heck, first appearing in Tales of Suspense #50 (February 1964). The character is described as being born in China before the Communist revolution, to a wealthy Chinese father and an English aristocratic mother, both of whom died when he was very young. He is characterised as a megalomaniac, attempting to conquer the world on several occasions, yet also possessing a strong sense of honor. The Mandarin is portrayed...

@RоryMcCune so did Black Hat (the movie) - apparently didnt help

Rory Alsop

Back in those days I didn't read comics so much - I had a subscription to New Scientist and National Geographic #confirmingmygeekstatus

AviD

1:12 PM

@RoryAlsop national geographic wasnt geeky then

and we all know you only subscribed for the pictures of native girls - the ones where they dont wear clothes

@RоryMcCune that sounds like an awesome job.

Rory Alsop

@AviD ahhhh - those were the days

Rоry McCune

@AviD advising TV/Movie types yeah that would be fun, I imagine the first req. for that kind of gig is "Live in LA"

AviD

@RоryMcCune hmm ya think?

raz

@AviD I think Christian Slater's character is all in his head. Fight Club type shit.

Rоry McCune

@AviD well that's where a lot of TV is run out of and I'd imagine that it's easier for them to use locals rather than fly someone in

Thomas Pornin

1:15 PM

Quick question people: is any of you aware of a recent IE 11 update (on Windows 8.1) that changes the User-Agent string, in particular with regards to "compatibility view" settings ?

raz

I don't use IE, didn't notice any updates recently

AviD

@ThomasPornin I am not.

Rоry McCune

@ThomasPornin I'm not, there's obv. the MS Edge stuff, but that should be (IMO) Win10 only.. that said I have various win 8.1/IE11 boxes so could check..

AviD

looking at it now - I dont think it looks any different

but then I dont really often compare my UA strings...

Rоry McCune

@AviD I managed to set off my works IDS by fuzzing my UA strings

raz

1:17 PM

@RоryMcCune Hopefully your job is to find bad things.

AviD

my UA string is now: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko

depedning on how recent the update

@RоryMcCune heh thats some wonky IDS then

Rоry McCune

@raz yarr I was testing a website and interested to see if it reacted differently to differing UAs

AviD

especially for a PT company!

Thomas Pornin

@AviD I see that one, and the problem is that I still see it when I enable the "compatibility view" settings for the target Web site.

Rоry McCune

@AviD nah one of the UAs in Burps standard payload set is equal to known malware

so a sensible detection

AviD

1:19 PM

hmm, except that it should be expected that the pentesters would, you know, pentest.

Adi

@ThomasPornin What about it?

AviD

I could understand greylisting it though.

Rоry McCune

@AviD yeah and I'm sure that'll go on a list of known FPs now but I must've been the first one to trip that particular rule

AviD

@ThomasPornin is that supposed to send different UA strings? I thought it was just using a different rendering engine.

Thomas Pornin

@Adi Up to a few days/weeks ago, when activating the compatibility view settings for a target domain, the User-Agent would mimic that of an old IE

in particular it would include "MSIE"

AviD

1:20 PM

@RоryMcCune even worse, what has everybody been doing till now??

Thomas Pornin

It still does for an up to date IE11 on WIndows 7

Rоry McCune

@AviD blogs.msdn.com/b/ieinternals/archive/2013/09/21/…

AviD

@ThomasPornin ah interesting

Rоry McCune

@AviD could be using different UA fuzzing lists, I'd guess. Plus UA fuzzing frankly is quite low return in most cases

"If the user chooses to render a site in Compatibility View (click Tools > Compatibility View Settings) then IE will send a User-Agent string that mimics Internet Explorer 7’s UA string:

Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.3; Trident/7.0; .NET4.0E; .NET4.0C)

By default, sites in the Intranet Zone render in Compatibility view, so this is the User-Agent string they’ll see."

AviD

@RоryMcCune yeah, thats true

Adi

1:22 PM

@ThomasPornin Yes

Disabled: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko
Enabled: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Trident/4.0)

@ThomasPornin So your browser isn't mimicking the older version's UA string?

Xander

@ThomasPornin @Adi Yes, I still see that on mine too. (MSIE 7.0 in my case) Win 8.1 with all updates.

Thomas Pornin

@Adi Actually not my browser, but yes.

I have apparently two cases in distinct customers.

I cannot reproduce it with a local IE 11 + Win8.1

With development tools (F12) I can change the User-Agent by hand, but this is non-permanent.

AviD

@ThomasPornin could there be a difference between desktop IE and "Modern" IE?

Thomas Pornin

2:05 PM

Ok, I think I found the reason

The affected Windows 8.1 is an "home premium" version

The compatibility view has apparently become an "enterprise" feature

But it is still possible to activate IE enterprise mode

The relevant tools (e.g. gpedit.msc) are missing, but one can still edit the registry.

Rоry McCune

ahh I'd heard something about windows 10 only having "legacy" IE stuff in Pro/Enterprise, didn't realise it would go back to 8.1 as well

Iszi

@Gilles Nice to know my nomination is actually still desired! :-)

@Adi Am I forgetting something, or did I just miss it?

Thomas Pornin

2:29 PM

Thanks to all for your help. I now have a method to unblock clients.

Iszi

3:05 PM

@Gilles Didn't know you were a pescephile.

Jeff Ferland

Re: our election ^

Rоry McCune

@JeffFerland well we do have some serious candidatures... which is nice

Thomas Pornin

@RоryMcCune With one more candidate we will have a primary election, which will bring down the number of candidates back to 10.

Which will be fun, because while the final election is about who we love most, the primary would be about who we hate most.

Iszi

3:21 PM

@ThomasPornin Ah, so that's how we knock out @Simon early!

I thought someone mod-pinned an election site link?

Thomas Pornin

@Iszi From the main site page, click on the link on the right (it is even in red)

Iszi

Sec.SE Moderator Elections

4

^ Someone super-pin that, please?

And isn't there a way to view previous elections?

Jeff Ferland

@Iszi change /3 to /2, /1, etc: security.stackexchange.com/election/2

M'vy

or go to /0 : security.stackexchange.com/election/0

Iszi

Wow. 3 years since the last election already? Hard to believe the place has been around that long.

Simon

3:26 PM

@Iszi pls

Rory Alsop

Time moves fast when you have a time travel machine. Our slow. Or backwards...

Iszi

@RoryAlsop I knew it! You're the Doctor! That's the only explanation for your age!

M'vy

Time does not slow, or speed up, nor goes backwards :)

well, not as far as time travel is concerned ?

you go back in time, but time does not rewind

Rory Alsop

That's not what we used to say on Gallifrey, @M'vy

Timey wimey...

It's a bit wibbly wobbly

M'vy

yeah

depends on your point of view

your time may slow/speed up/jump backwards for others observing you I guess

Iszi

3:36 PM

I wonder if being "gender-verified by @ScottPack" counts as a qualification worthy of mentioning in a moderator nomination?

M'vy

@Iszi not sure. However, it's T-Shirt material :)

Hell I'm bad with typos these days

Rоry McCune

3:51 PM

why do the daftest questions get onto the "hot topics" list

Xander

@RоryMcCune Because they're the questions that can be understood by, and interacted with, by the broadest audience.

Rоry McCune

@Xander yeah guess that makes sense... so rep hunting == answer the daft questions...

raz

@RоryMcCune Which question did you see?

Rоry McCune

5

Q: Is this idea for a password manager secure? If so, why doesn't anybody use it?

I've been thinking of a problem with usual password managers: although they do provide better security than manually using passwords, there's a central database that can get lost, get compromised, etc. For example, malware could use a keylogger to get your master password and then compromise all ...

raz

Ah, yeah if you want rep answer the daft questions. More likely to get eyetraffic

Rоry McCune

3:59 PM

just realised it'll be Sec.SE's 5th Anniversary in November'ish time this year

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