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00:23
@Ohnana Oops, wrong TLD. Thanks. :)
@Gilles How is it OneBox will happily link to localized Wikipedia articles, but can't handle pointing to HTTPS?
(Or did they fix that?)
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Oh, looks like maybe they did.
@Iszi I think https oneboxing has worked for a couple of years
at least for wikipedia
@Gilles It's been off and on. Used to be much more off than on. And when it was on, it would still point to the HTTP page.
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Q: Preview new HTTPS Wikipedia links in chat

Mechanical snailIn chat, Wikipedia links normally get oneboxed. A while ago, support for secure Wikipedia links (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/) was added: Add support for secure Wikipedia pages to Onebox. However, Wikipedia now uses a new HTTPS URL scheme, the same as the HTTP link except with https: ...

two years and a month
Whatevs. I still feel like the days of Jeff Atwood shooting down highly-voted Meta questions (and thus himself getting highly-down-voted) were just last month.
Seriously, you want good ideas for a spin-off Q&A site? Search for any Meta post where Atwood has a -50 or lower score.
00:33
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A: Can we have the ability to retract a close vote before it closes?

Jeff Atwooddeclining -- you can always cast a reopen vote if the post gets closed. Also note that all close votes automatically expire after two days. (and for that matter reopen votes, or any other vote that attempts to reach a threshold -- otherwise, over an absurdly long period of time, say 10 years, e...

-167
A: Show all of my question/answers to me even if they are deleted

Jeff AtwoodGenerally when things get deleted, it's for a good reason, and we don't want users to be undeleting them -- there's a reason we require 10k rep to "see" deleted items at all, and only moderators can see deletions in a user's profile.

-83
A: How about a "Vote not to close" option to counter the "Vote to close"?

Jeff AtwoodDeclining, because there's already a solution: track the question (favorite it, or leave it open in a tab in your browser) and if it reaches the close threshold, vote to reopen it. Beyond that, the 10k rep tools include a report that will show you recently closed questions questions with clos...

@Gilles Yeah, that one just got turned around not long ago, didn't it?
-65
A: Don't remove the @ part of my comment

Jeff AtwoodWe remove @postowner for the same reason we automatically remove salutations from posts, like Hi Fellow Coders, (Note that this is only removed when the only people talking in comments are you and the post owner.) The @postowner is unnecessary because the post owner is always notified of e...

-58
Q: Should we have a policy about "too much downvoting"?

Jeff AtwoodWe've never had an explicit policy around downvoting -- users are free to, if they like, cast all their votes as downvotes. Whether this behavior is desirable or not is another matter. Now, we do discourage downvoting by making downvotes cost -1 rep to the casting voter. But, there's nothing in...

-50
A: Allow an edit to notify downvoters: "I think I've fixed the issue now - please check"

Jeff AtwoodWhile this is a good idea, I think @name comment notifications gets us close enough to this. In other words, if someone leaves a comment about why your post is wrong, you can now reply to them and they'll be notified. http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/01/new-improved-comments-with-reply/ I th...

that's the lot
That's literally all the -50 posts for him? Seems like there should be more.
Maybe change the threshold to -20. (No need for a full posting of results this time, thanks.)
Oh, that's on Meta.SE.
Probably there's some stuff didn't get moved from Meta.SO.
Or how did that migration go? I forget?
00:35
@Iszi it's the opposite: MSE inherited all the baggage from MSO, MSO started afresh
@Gilles Right.
@Gilles What's with the dots between "score:" and "-20"?
@Iszi that sounds like @AviD's wits
@Iszi range operator: from unlimited to -20
@Iszi that's now with the MSO/MSE split ... maybe also search on MSO
ah lol inb4ed
@TildalWave Would be interesting to see the same search performed across the whole Meta network.
00:51
Yes but I dunno how to do that without programming it
even Stack Exchange Data Explorer only queries by sites
as far as I know at least
@TildalWave you can make cross-site queries but it's hard
ICBA to find examples, there are a few on MSE
no, I'm not explaining it
@Gilles hmmm yeah I think I did see some actually now that you mention it ... not sure how well that works tho, does it?
@TildalWave it works just fine, if you manage to write it
Oh dunno maybe ... I used to be real good with SQL Server queries but that was some time ago
Also with PL/SQL but that's even longer ago
01:11
@TildalWave also like me and your mom
@AviD and your face :)
 
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04:57
Quick question: I just went to the "official" Social Security website, to this link:
Chrome complains about "outdated security settings", and says "identity not verified".
Furthermore, the SSL certificate has a typo, and says "Balitmore" instead of the correct "Baltimore".
Has this website been hacked, or are those admins really that incompetent?
Thanks in advance...
 
3 hours later…
08:19
@StackExchange the diode bridge is wrong.
@coma Yeah the location is wrong, typo. On the other hand, Firefox does not seem to complain about anything outdated.
@M'vy Holy shit.
09:09
yep
inb4 the next one is government issued
Interesting vuln on the FreeBSD /dev/urandom.
@TerryChia urmom's random.
Thank god that did not make it to a released version.
@Arperum shuttupsimon
Also: Morning all!
hi
09:18
@Gilles I'm tempted to ask the analogue question about "too much upvoting"
@TerryChia They were trying to pull a debian.
@CodesInChaos Heh. I think that's still the biggest crypto vuln since I got interested in computers.
09:35
@coma Hanlon's Razor.
> Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
@TerryChia or would be, if anyone used Debian.
09:47
@coma my crystal ball says "this website got caked"
@Flyk crystal balls not a good idea to get into a street fight
okay wow. So yknow how all the questions on the site have been super-sucky lately? Yeah, it's gone downhill since then.
@AviD sure it is, massive unbreakable mass, perfect for smacking people around the face
@Flyk ymean "teabagging"?
...no
@AviD yeah not very good questions.
09:50
I meant more like the scene from labyrinth where the guy uses the wine bottle to collapse the dudes face
I spend more time in review queues
but I guess you could translate that to advanced teabagging
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@AviD Stack Exchange in "chasing all the good users away so that there are only crap users left" shocker
hehe, I liked this part of an answer to an unclear question:
> 4. That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
"Internet, b**ch, do you speak it??!!?"
I'm so disappointed that my highly technical and correct answer is so low voted
I don't know why I bother with SU
people on Facebook discussing testing the tensile strength of animals
good old facebook
people on Twatter being... people on Twatter
nothing new there
huh. Actually a question worth answering here, but first would need to edit out 3/4 of the cruft first.
09:54
0
Q: What ways could compromise Ubuntu?

DmitryUsing 14.04 fresh-updated Ubuntu for home PC. I guess I got backdoor and Im trying to find out how its possible. I do not downloaded side apps. Using Ubuntu for browsing most all of the time. So I have 2 version: 1) Compromised updated from Canonical (I know it sounds little paranoid but its p...

oh my ...
@M'vy resolved
you removed my comment
I'll go with too broad. Though I also thought it was pretty unclear what his specific question is.
you amazingly lovely moderator you
@AviD Yeah I did that too
@Flyk who did
09:55
@AviD I posted the comment "this question is broader than Simon's mom"
@Flyk hehehe I DID NOT JUST EDIT THAT
it got removed
@Flyk yeah should have linked that here first
you should have
you cuddly little moderator you
I do love to cuddle.
09:57
everybody loves cuddling
one of my kids doesnt
you should be careful, Hitler didn't like cuddles either
wow, I just looked at the front page of sec.se
what a mistake
always bad news when you feel stupid at the start of the day
~1/3 of the questions in the newest page are on hold/migrated/duplicate
not even that, I just don't understand what is being asked
nevermind
@Flyk inb4 you'll regret saying that line
just a feeling :)
10:05
why would I regret that line?
because people in there :)
I do not fear the people in here
I have no issue in admitting that "Ring Oscillator: TRNG vs PUF" is complete gibberish to me
I understand what a "ring" is, what an "oscillator" is, and the rest requires google
/shrug
ok like "At Starbucks, is my MAC address sent when I accept the terms of service for free Wifi?"
I don't understand that question because as far as my knowledge is aware, your MAC address would have been sent long before the point this dude is asking since it would have happened at the point you connected to the network
not that my knowledge in such things is correct and/or anything other than a guess
@Flyk yes indeed
oh, I was correct
let me check outside and see if the clouds have cleared
looking up for "Starbucks" in the research field I've reached:
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Q: Is it possible the person sitting across from me at Starbucks was trying to hack my laptop?

MurvinI was using my laptop at a Starbucks on a table, and a person was using a laptop on the same table across from me, a couple seats to my side. He flicked some plastic thing across the table towards my laptop. What really freaked me out was he then actually flicked it again further to get it right ...

10:28
@M'vy -.-
You need at least 3k reputation to review close votes.
:(
I'm really fan of the "ooooh that guy is pointing a weird electronic thing to my computer" :)
only 2.5k to go
@Flyk the light is at the end of the tunnel
no
I don't actually care enough to generate the rep, I just want the review queues
I know the feeling
10:33
shame they didn't implement something like 50k network rep gives access to all review queues
@Flyk Yeah, I don't want people from SO reviewing things on smaller sites without learning more about the site.
I mean, do you really want people that gained 50k rep from answering and questions reviewing things about security?
I know, but then I could review on every site I have an account on
and my review stats speak for themselves
I know, idyllic thinking
wouldn't work in the real world
Morning sec.se folks
most people would just click next next next
@RoryAlsop blush
@Flyk Well, I'd support special privileges for you. ;)
10:43
I have edited all the things in superuser's review queue
and arqade...
I love it when the review system tries to catch you out by giving you a shocking post full of spelling mistakes
then you click "edit" and it says "This post cannot be edited because it has been deleted"
and it becomes apparent exactly how much of a half assed job the system is
@Flyk I just assume those are @Lighty.
All of them :-)
"Please suggest me ones that are simple and require no hard to understand sudo code."
SUDO CODE
@Flyk no no, you missed the point. It is designed perfectly to catch the half assed users.
10:52
@Flyk SUDOKO.de
@AviD I am just straight up immune
that system was designed specifically for the "no action needed" spammers
and fails at its role of teaching people how to review
The fake ones only appear on stacks with lots of activity I thnk
nope, I've seen them on every site
seems to be rep based
I never get them on arqade
Even here?
yeah I've had one on here
well - I did on arqade, the day I recreated my account, before it was merged with my recovered account
but I had 1 rep at the time
or whatever
10:55
I think I only see them on SU or SO
never reviewed on SO
If it's rep based that makes sense
seen lots on AU
lots on SU
only seen one on here, but I've only reviewed like 2 things on here
what with your newbie queues always being empty
ooh, I just got strunk and white on su
for the second time
(my SU account wasn't included in my account recovery)
Are they? I think they have a fair amount in the newbie queue but it gets cleared quickly before UTC breakfast time
I have reviewed everything that is currently available for me to review
on the entire network
which is actually only like five sites for me
10:57
Need to sign up for more sites then :-)
Looks like I'm now going to be mod on another site...
Heh
@RoryAlsop which one?
Think that will be seven. Need to stop volunteering.
Parenting
@RoryAlsop well with that one you can show the experience :)
@RoryAlsop meh, there's more to it than just signing up
Suits me I guess
10:58
I can't be bothered generating 3k rep on each site
@RoryAlsop blue attracts blue
Maybe that's it
I want to sign up for sound design
I've resisted for the entire time it's existed
it's far too close to home
It's a difficult one. There are two distinct communities in there and they don't really get on...
11:01
@Flyk yeah could be some OpSec breaches in participation in that site
I have modded there since the merge and it's hard work @Flyk
@RоryMcCune That's... stupid.
@TerryChia that's....... Cisco
@RoryAlsop meh, I'm never going to be a mod, so that's not a problem
@RоryMcCune Point taken.
11:03
I didn't realize you were a mod on so many sites
I'm honestly shocked you haven't been turned against me already
@Flyk It takes time for @RoryAlsop to do things.
I do love Jeremy Clarkson's regular article in The Sun. I like to see how far down his column I can get before I gag on something unpleasant
A decade is like a second in @RoryAlsop's life.
aww no twitter oneboxing
heh
11:04
@RоryMcCune Remove HTTPS.
@TerryChia ahh
Twitter oneboxing is borked. HTTPS links work about half the time.
@RоryMcCune I see your pinning skills have not deteriorate. ;)
@TerryChia well ya know :)
@Flyk - I make my own opinions. I don't get persuaded by anything. Pretty much.
TIL: git rerere is a real thing.
11:08
Rerereally?
Can't see star wall on this mobile - any chance of a screenshot
@RoryAlsop ^
@Flyk - and generally I'm just pretty fair, reasonable and unbiased so modding can be quite pleasant
@TerryChia excellent
@RoryAlsop That's probably a biased opinion. ;)
Heh, yup
I'm biased towards my opinion
19 hours ago, by Rоry McCune
my password is "simon" that way if I get it wrong all the websites remind me by telling me that my password is incorrect..
Brilliant!
11:13
Damn my draft on the blog is 6 years old
@M'vy Heh.
@TerryChia ta, it's not totally original as I saw something similar on the 'net somewhere, but adapted to circumstance :)
@RoryAlsop are you suggesting that at some point somebody has tried to sway your opinion on me?
(there will be no explosion if you say yes)
@Flyk I think she's named kalina.
@TerryChia meh, I've already seen all the general whining about me in TL, I know this is something that happens
11:16
@Flyk yeah it was totally me. I met @RoryAlsop for a coffee the other week and tried to convince him on the whole trucker thing and the fact that all the music stuff is a cunning OpSec ruse de guerre :op
but yes, other than me
@RоryMcCune you're right, I'm actually a silent partner at google
the reason I don't appear in the index is I have access to the database
...that's actually a really good idea
@Flyk and you truck 'cause that's what you always wanted to do when you grew up
makes sense
I need to make some new friends
I need to come up with a new plan that involves buying Google
@Flyk Yeah... Good luck with that.
@TerryChia psh, it's easy, just execute the biggest embrace, extend, extinguish in the history of everything
11:19
@Flyk I'm not sure you know what "easy" means.
FYI, it's @AviD's mom.
the obvious solution is some kind of social portal that is good enough to become the landing page for internet access
so search, facebook integration, twatter integration, etc etc etc
a sensible "friends" feed collating everything you do in all of your other accounts, with a search bar at the top
so, now I just need to work out how that works
@Flyk So... Google Chrome?
@TerryChia yes but without the google
it's hip to hate on google
this would be "like" google but with all your data hosted outside of the jurisdiction of america
that sounds like a major usp
@Flyk - no. Just in general.
Could somebody please super-ping begueradj to come here?
11:28
I'm resistant to peer pressure, advertising etc
@RoryA, maybe?
@Adnan-Adi Why?
@Adnan-Adi - what's up?
Nothing wrong, guys. He asked me an off-topic question in a comment, and I want to answer him here
@RoryAlsop so that's a "yes, people tried to influence my opinion"? :)
11:31
@RoryAlsop the sky?
I'm sorry for this comment, I will delete it when you answer me. I'm just curious if you are a real Finn ? I ask this question because your family name (Adnan) exists in my village too. Regards — begueradj 1 hour ago
No biggy
@RoryAlsop clouds
Not about you @Flyk
uhuh
@RoryAlsop a disney movie?
11:32
@Adnan-Adi Ahh. I thought you wanted to go full Adi on him. :)
Ping him a quick note in comment to say visit chat.
So, some mod (@RoryA or @Avi) please remove the comment (off-topic) and superping him here.
@RoryAlsop I was trying to avoid doing that
why don't you just respond to the comment
because that's how it works
Because then we'll have more off-topic comments
what if he asks a followup question?
Ahhh.. never mind. I was trying to do something good
I'm back to "consulting", whatever that means
Ping him a link to here and then flag his comment.
11:33
Why Don't You Just Stop Asking In Chat and Go Out and Respond To His Comment Instead?
@Adnan-Adi phhbt have you learned nothing :op
Or let me have a link to whatever the post is
@RoryAlsop tut, you could just click "1 hour ago"
@Flyk you're just trying to tweek @Adnan-Adi now aren't you?
@RoryAlsop I posted it 15 messages up
11:34
@RоryMcCune - gawd. Just figured out what you were doing
@RоryMcCune tweek?
@RoryAlsop :)
Ahh - OK. Tricky to see that
2 mins ago, by Adnan - Adi
Because then we'll have more off-topic comments
@Adnan-Adi Emailing Nessus reports?
11:35
@Flyk get a rise out of
@TerryChia Nah, that's the pentesters' job. I read and complain about source code
oic
@TerryChia @Adnan-Adi oy! we don't email stuff, all done via secure portals
I was going to say "I'm not trying to..." and then decided that I probably am
@RоryMcCune Oh, I forgot that PGP-signed emails are for hipsters.
11:36
Decent people, recommend some music for me
I haven't had any real abuse from Adnan in ages, it's almost like he tolerates my presence
@Adnan-Adi My type of music probably isn't your taste.
@TerryChia I said decent people
:D
@Adnan-Adi Pffft. I shall ignore you and let you converse with @lighty and @Simon then.
@TerryChia Oh yeah, because their music is maaaauch better :|
11:38
@Adnan-Adi genre?
@Adnan-Adi Let me recommend some music by @Flyk then.
@Flyk * metal
@Adnan-Adi random things I like at the moment. Pomplamoose, Scott Bradlee, Jack White, Metaltech (obv.), The Stranglers, Portishead, Massive Attack
@TerryChia That would be shameless self-pluggig
@Adnan-Adi ahh in which case none of those suggestions (bar metaltech) are a good idea
11:39
@Adnan-Adi I didn't link it, it's not self-plugging
32 secs ago, by Adnan - Adi
@TerryChia That would be shameless self-pluggig
would
No, you don't get to star that.
@Flyk I can come up with some forgiveness arrangements for you
wait, I just puked in my mouth a bit
I don't need to, I prefer to write subtle hatred while pretending to be innocent and lovable
11:41
@Flyk Totally Taylor Swift.
well I figured you blew my identity wide open, no point in hiding the fact anymore
@Flyk good point. BTW I take it you're avoiding the northern states at the moment. All that snow's not good in an 18-wheeler
@RоryMcCune well no, during the snow I figured I'd get a member of my security team to do the driving
there's no need to be do your job all the time when you generate the income of a small country each year
@Adnan-Adi Any specifics you like? So I don't go suggesting things like Immortal if you dislike black metal.
might as well delegate from time to time
11:42
@Flyk good idea
help a little with that unemployment rate
I figured that before I show my true colors and seize control of the planet I should actually do most of the jobs my future slaves will have to do, so I know when to set fire to them for fucking about
@Arperum Folk, pegan, viking, progressive
"viking metal" is not surely a real thing
on a more serious note
I hate you guys for this
@Flyk It's not really, but it's frequently used. Mostly used for folk metal and also for Amon Amarth (who dislike being called Viking metal)
@Flyk for what?
11:46
over the last few months I've listened to so much taylor swift material to fit in with this bullshit fucking about that my actual music is starting to sound swifty
@Flyk Ooops. :)
out of the tracks I'm working on at the moment, 3 of them are more "pop" than "dance"
@Flyk doesn't that fit in with you becoming a pop impressario?
"pop" is too much about quantity over quality
and the vocal hook in one of those tracks is a blatant rip of the chorus from trouble
next up, the trucker song
@Flyk \o/
11:49
"now I'm driving down the cold dark lane" to the tune of "now I'm lying on the cold hard ground"
with dubstep instead of guitars
because dubstep>guitars
@Flyk for that one you can take inspiration from the bloodhound gang
Do you mean Truckers Delight?
Google it. NSFW
Very
@RoryAlsop if that's the thing that GnomeSlice linked with the rape in it
then no
Like all his videos
I got banned over that as well
because KitFox said it was acceptable and I lost my cool
11:50
@RoryAlsop I was thinking the lap dance song (also NSFW) where the main char is a trucker
and then MODERATOR PILE ON
@Flyk I think I remember that episode.
"oh no, the person you're arguing with has a blue name so you're wrong by default"
Actually I think I remember that furore
missing the fact that Stack Exchange has a moderator stating that cartoon rape is OK
11:51
@Adnan-Adi Angeli di pietra(folk with black/death stuff) is a Belgian band I can highly recommend. Conorach(clear vocals, powermetally) and Heidevolk (folk metal) are Dutch bands then there are bands like Equilibrium, Die Apokalyptischen Reiter, Saltatio Mortis, tyr, Turisas, Otyg, Glittertind, Manegarm, Nothgard.
I'm not at home, so can't go browsing through my collection easily though.
@Arperum psh, just allow windows file and printer sharing over public networks
it will be ok
nothing could possibly go wrong
also, open up rdp as well
and make sure the guest account is enabled and allowed for rdp
@Flyk nah easiest is just open up UPNP and then you can reconfigure the network remotely whenever you need to
I wonder if you could trademark "Taylor Swift" in the EU
oh, so that's what happened to eztv
italian authorities seized the domain?

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