@AviD Yeah exactly. What a damn donut.

@AviD With sprinkles and a cherry!

@raz I want ice cream, but not cold. Just not melted though.

a person just like @Simon, but not canadian.

oh I went too far.

damn that was harsh.

I am sorry @Simon.

@Ohnana file permissions are a complete disaster. Found the way of entry it seems.

@raz apache access logs bro

@AviD :'(

@Arperum that's not the only story

tbf, when I think of "stupid" in the DMZ, its not @Simon that comes to mind

tyvm

@AviD That was pretty harsh

But am I The DMZ?

@raz yeah. ninjaedited.

@kalina I respectfully disagree. :) Mods should not be expected to spend loads of their time on the site nannying it. Think what mods they would be if they had to do that to the point they clearly wouldn't have the time to be otherwise successful in their lives. So increased workload here isn't mod problem. It's SE problem. Once you get to the point of taking too much of individual's time, you try to get more individuals doing it. Alternatively, hire professionals that are paid for it.

@TildalWave yeah, that last bit aint never gonna happen.

@AviD I know

actually you do have a point though, SE does try to put in filters and such to block the crap as early as possible automatedly.

it is something they supposedly are working on. so yes, we dont want modflooding - but on the other hand @kalina is not wrong, this is the job that all mods have volunteered for.

I'm just saying that it's not someone's fault that they can't dedicate more time for something they're not paid to do, even if they volunteered some time for it and knew it would take that certain amount of time off them. If that workload later increases, you don't blame them for not being able to keep up. They didn't sign up for the increased workload.

its not the main job, but it is one of the most time consuming - und hence why the highrep users can also participate.

@TildalWave oh I agree on that.

often I have to overlook some pile of flags, if I'm otherwise busy,

@TildalWave They shouldn't reject flags in that scenario though.

I just leave them to the other mods....

which is exactly the point.

@TerryChia @TildalWave what he said.

Also, this topic has been discussed before.

@Ohnana They are using some outdated editor, I assume they bruteforced the threeletter password to the backend...

Like, many many times already.

I used to run organizations that were nearly exclusively on volunteering basis. I did all the surplus work on it. Because I run it. I didn't demand of my volunteers to do more than they can volunteer, because I'd lose even those I had if I did that.

@TerryChia Ah yes, true. I'm not talking about anything specific now really. We're past that. (I hope)

@TildalWave BUT did any one of them ever say "ahh frak it all, I cant deal with this pile of tasks I share with another dozen people, so if I cant deal with it NOONE WILL"

@TildalWave See, that analogy doesn't hold. The person flagging is also volunteering his time.

@Arperum you mentioned that you didn't see any access other than you. Are there any holes in the logs?

@TildalWave well, WE are. thats what @kalina is talking about. youre just feeding her strawman.

@Arperum also look at last

@AviD Some did, and we did find replacements for them. Sometimes even with their help.

@TildalWave wat

If you reject otherwise valid work because you are too busy to handle it you are making sure people won't want to contribute ever again.

that is some kind of pathological crap.

@AviD what are we talking about? :)))

@Ohnana Hell if I know how to notice that. I'm a webdev, not a security expert. It doesn't look like they got rdp access, just found some way of remotely screwing in some files.

@AviD I assumed you asked about organizations I run?

@TildalWave nuking a pile of outstanding tasks (e.g. flags) that other people could look at, simply because he doesnt want to bother.

@Arperum you must think like chaotic evil even if you align with lawful good

@AviD ah you see I was replying to something else I thought you asked about ... next time, reply to the message you're commenting on. C'mon, you're a mod, you know how this goes :D

@Arperum also, if you're over your head find someone else to help. no shame. if I tried to play webdev the website would look like it got hit with the 1990's stick

@TildalWave I did.... ;-)

now you did :P

I AM MOD I REWRITE HISTORY

Best install mod_rewrite then @AviD

hahah

@Ohnana I'm the most competent person available. And that's saying something.

@AviD - I looked into that user who kept posting the wonderhowto links, and have suspended them for 7 days

Also: yay for plaintextpasswords in the DB...

Thanks to all those who flagged him/her

@Arperum go with god son serverfault.com/questions/218005/…

@AviD Well, you expected a reply about how things went in an entirely different setting .... not really comparable, but yes, we had a fair share of management problems. Tho main difference, mistakes there directly affected lives. Not really the case here.

@RoryAlsop havent had time to look at it, dont know what that was about

saw flags about "same links"...

@BarryCarlyon Now that's good comedy.

@TildalWave STACKEXCHANGE AFFECTS LIVES

LIVES AFFECT STACKEXCHANGE

STACKEXCHANGE IS LIFE

@AviD hehehe right

I AM STACKEXCHANGE

@Arperum if you have any questions I'd be happy to lend my unprofessional opinion, starting with "dat sh*t wack"

> "THIS IS MADNESS!" "MADNESS?? THIS IS STACKEXCHAAAAANGE!!"

@BarryCarlyon We are Groot

WE ARE GROOT!

"So say we all!" Right, are we done now with this group therapy? :)

lol

You want a hug? You can't handle a hug!

@TerryChia Indeed and back in the day it would have got you a low flag weight. So, pitch forks and mobs on meta.

BTW did you know that the "So say we all" scene in BSG wasn't scripted?

that dude from Blade Runner made it up on the spot

damn ...

coffee!!

@TildalWave same thing in Holy Grail "YES WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT!" "I'm not."

@Ohnana I'm going to do some password modifications through the DB, gonna block the superadmin :p because fuck you plaintextpass.

smartass extra couldnt hold his wisecracking tongue. Started heckling the stars.

@Arperum like the root account?

@AviD hehehe yeah but with such cast you'd expect things to just happen

@TildalWave so you're saying that when you signed up, you expected the growth of traffic to just cease at that point and not grow any further? Otherwise, you're just wrong.

@kalina No, that's not what I'm saying.

@TildalWave sure, but I made that crap up.

@AviD So the Dell I picked up yesterday. It didn't have an HDMI input, which was a nice to have feature, but the USB hub is powered off the monitor not a simple passthrough.

@Ohnana It's a website with custom CMS, noone is entering that CMS anymore with a simple pass.

@TildalWave @kalina you're both arguing against strawmen. You're not even having the same argument.

@ScottPack sounds like a good one then.

@AviD it's impossible to argue with me, I am immune

@AviD There's two strawmen? See? They're ganging up on us!!

also I think the same (or similar) that I got for family.

@AviD So now I'm going to just leave a cable plugged in so I can use it as a charging station.

@TildalWave lol

@Arperum i see. Drupal or Wordpress :P

right, uber time.

I have just had the most awkward conversation that I think I'm ever going to have

"who is paying for all of this?" [the funeral]

@AviD The fonts look a little janky, but it's a 1920x1080 next to a Retina. I suppose that's expected.

"apparently this is all going to cost around £10000"

@kalina oh crap.

cue the brief argument between others (not me) about how that's too much

which escalated into shouting, before i just decided to pay for it

I did get to call my entire group of friends the biggest bunch of whiny selfish little c##ts ever, though

how can you even break out into an argument about something like this

Welcome to capitalism.

I am ashamed

Also, I'm amazed by how many people don't have life insurance.

@kalina you are? nonononononono

@Simon I'm not amazed in this instance

she was still at university

@kalina grief makes people into idiots

@Ohnana I can't believe the amount of resentment it's causing

@kalina It is less important when nobody depends on you, yes.

You have kids and no life insurance? You suck.

that's true

this is (from my point of view) the closest group of friends I've ever witnessed outside of TV

and they devolved into whining over something like this

Money drives everyone with no proper values insane.

@Ohnana Waaaaay worse. Self written ASP thing. with plaintext passwords in the DB.

makes me feel sick

@Arperum hurk. everything should be hashed in the db and hashed to compare

I remember when my friend told his gf he wouldn't marry her because she'd run away with half of his stuff.

@TerryChia s/Highly Paid/Expensive/g <--- Big difference.

I have no idea how she didn't dump him.

@Ohnana Yes, and with a proper hash like bcrypt or pbkdf2

shit I didn't know they shut down ChipIn

@Arperum if I were you, I'd be pushing to move away from the "roll-your-own" method

@Simon heh

what's the alternative these days then?

most of the guys I've been with in the last year didn't even get my name

hardly a foundation to build a relationship on

Money has no value to me if I can't share it with the ones I love.

@Simon LOVE ME D:

9 months after you start dating, "oh btw my name is actually..."

I swear that my very first thought about winning money was "Who's gonna get a share and how much?".

@kalina ... and I'm pregnant?

@Ohnana Not our thing, it's some other company who should be cleaning up his own shit, but the are involved in a lawsuit or something with the website owner, so they refuse to do anything.

@LucasKauffman lulz

@LucasKauffman that's not going to happen

just... ever

@Arperum whoa whoa whoa

@Arperum is what you're doing involved in the lawsuit?

^ if so, back the fuck out

^^ yup. drop it like it's on fire and run the fuck away

lawsuit and forensics often require you to have a PI license if you want admisable evidence in court

or you're going to be butt-loved in court with the rest of them

also you aren't independant

buttloved <3

INDEPENDANCE IS MANDATORY!

@Ohnana I think company A has to pay €X to company B, but is refusing to do so. It has something to do with an unasked server upgrade or something. All I know about it is third hand or something like that.

I guess 2015 is the year I abandon my life long group of friends

2k15

btw if anyone knows the answer: superuser.com/questions/869615/…

42

@kalina like I said, grief shaves off IQ points. grab them after the initial pain is over, they might be deeply ashamed of their actions

@LucasKauffman mouse clit?

funerals happen very close to the date of death. my dad buried a friend and the entire family turned on him because they thought he was the deceased's drug dealer

@LucasKauffman disable the driver in manager?

look under HID devices

@Ohnana initial pain? You've got to be kidding me

It's unacceptable behavior, I'm managing to get by without alienating my friends

@LucasKauffman no problem, the least technical person in here will help you

@TildalWave got it finally

its one driver for both

dell has a management suite

"Dell" and "Management Suite" in the same sentence

@kalina my hero

@LucasKauffman sure you know that now that flyk answered your question :op

"heroine"

like the drug, with an extra e on the end

@RоryMcCune yes I did

this was so annoying, I sent like a half typed email by accident to a client

fantastic, I've just gained loads of rep on superlusers

at least I achieved something productive today

You're productive.

everybody except @Simon, is this what I'm like when I get hyperactive?

just wearing people down until they want to commit violence against me

Who's Everybody Except Simon?

Where is he from?

@kalina eh not really

I'm not sure you know me nearly well enough to judge

I guess I should have clarified my statement a bit more

story of my life

so many "I am groots" in here

I love that movie

So many critics.

I watched it twice, yesterday

We're getting 10-24" of snow tonight :[

was the last movie we ever saw at the cinema together

now the opening scene in the hospital makes me cry

@DavidFreitag OH, you're one of those donuts?

rip m8

Even my Subaru can't do shit in that much snow.

It's not a matter of traction, it's a matter of height.

@Simon Yeah, but as a Canadian, you always have the government issued snowmobile.

aaawww yeah boi

@DavidFreitag 12-16 here. fml

all of these lower estimates sound like acceptable lengths

-.-

Oh, class is cancelled due to "inclimate weather"

Huh, the news lead me to believe it was the SNOPOCALYPSE

@DavidFreitag Snow day! Go outside, build the biggest snow fort ever to fight your worst enemy and steal his hot gf.

@Simon No, I think I'll enjoy a nice bottle of bourbon alone, then spend hours of shoveling the abyss of white.

boooooo

@DavidFreitag yeah that's real sensible

take drugs that pull body heat out from your core and then go stand outside in the freezing cold

quickest route to a heart attack

well, not the quickest

Is life all about drugs? 'Cause I'm not aware, I'd like to know.

I'm talking about alcohol

@kalina I know exactly how sensible it is.

Or isn't for that matter.

@DavidFreitag yeah bro alcohol+cold+exercise=not happy fun time

bourbon after shoveling

bourbon after warming up, after shoveling

The really funny part is my driveway is extremely steep in parts.

why don't you just put a load of salt down on your path

Because two inches of snow laughs at salt let alone two feet.

depends how quickly it falls

why don't you just set fire to your drive

and leave it burning until the snow stops

Fire is best.

mix yourself up a rudimentary napalm

coat your drive

set fire to it

I thought about it, but we don't have that much propellant. If the power goes out we need it for the gennie.

citronella and sugar

I'd like to see snow settle on fire.

Gasoline and styrofoam

lemony fresh napalm ftw

it means you can set fire to people and they smell nice while burning

Maybe I could just coat my driveway in sterno

It's supposed to start lightly snowing in about 5 hours and end tomorrow at about the same time.

well then

quickly lay down a conductive metal mesh

and then use it to heat the snow away later

But it's not supposed to really pick up until about 4am

Just to screw up everybody's morning.

@kalina But if the power goes out...

then revert to napalm

@kalina it's possible, just use fluorine on it

I think that's the best course of action.

failing that, power the mesh from your car

@TildalWave Yes, I'll just go to my exotic chemicals store room and just get a few dozen pounds of fluorine.

@DavidFreitag that's the spirit :)

that's pretty epic that you have an exotic chemicals store room

I just store my highly flammables and highly corrosives in the fridge, next to my cake and fizzy drinks

mind that shit is so terribly toxic that if you get a drop of it on your hand you better chop it off

in unmarked containers

Are there a few cadavers in there too?

no I only save the parts that I want to keep

Clever.

sorry to ruin your fun

all of those exes

Giggity.

dayum

@kalina I thought you were supposed to laminate them to your mantle?

owww party pooper!

I find pickling works better

I am missing a couple, but that's because I cut them up and fed them to other boyfriends

I suppose then you could feed them to the neighbors without their knowledge.

You're a neighbor.

Not a very good one. If I moved somewhere and one of my new neighbors showed up at my door with some baked good I probably wouldn't even open the door for them.

Yeah, me too.

@Simon unless it was Doughnuts of course....

Then you gotta help your neighbors? Fuck that.

@RоryMcCune I'd have to be really careful, they could be poisonous.

dem pesky neighbors.

Aint nobody "borrowing" my lawn mower.

Yeah, "borrow".

@DavidFreitag heh, I actually did that when I moved in here

Are you gonna change the spark plug once you're done with it?

Felipe is not a possession, and as such he cannot be "borrowed"

Tsk tsk.

LOL

turned up at all of my surrounding neighbors, said hi, talked to them for a bit

"felipe" reminds me of bye felipe

and yes... bla bla bla "not all men" bla

SFW?

just read some of that shit

@Simon eh, probably not

also potentially damaging to the male ego

bluh

@kalina What ego?

it's pictures of guys acting like assholes to women online for no reason other than the woman not paying them the attention the guy wanted

@DavidFreitag Those Eggo pancakes, dude.

telling them to die and catch aids etc

because that's what you want to hear when you're just chilling, using the internet

@Simon I melted a stack of those with thermite once. I learned that thermite also melts ceramic sinks that day too.

lmao

you could use thermite to clear your drive

that's a really good idea

Yeah but it wouldn't stop at the driveway unfortunately.

you should do that

well that's cool, clear part of the street too

in b4 iced streets

The street will get done, I live on a main street, it's always clear.

Ohhhh sweet! I won one of Atmel's crypto development boards. I was hoping it would be a TPM, but hey this works.

@Simon if you don't hear from me after the snowpocalypse, send the St. Bernards.

Noted.

His name is Little Billy, in case you need to know.

@Simon Don't forget the maple whiskey. The good stuff too :]

Oh he'll be carrying an extra pouch with maple bacon too, don't worry.

Awesome. This almost makes me want to be trapped under a mountain of snow.

Almost.

huh, HTTP 449, hadn't seen that response code before

Have you ever seen 418?

@Simon For a while I had an embedded web server with a battery inside a teapot and all it did was serve a 418. I think the battery lasted two weeks

@DavidFreitag That's so damn legit.

@Simon not on a test, no

I repurposed that board as my in-home automation extension

I have just spent €1500 on a PCI-E card that does DSP

it made me feel 8% better than I did before I purchased it

Linky?

quad core version of one of these: uaudio.com/uad-plug-ins/uad-2-pcie.html

Nice, although I have almost no need for a huge beefy DSP

petition to hurl osx into the sun

@Ohnana you don' tneed to petition that

just do it

murder the whole of apple while you're at it

fuck yeah

bring on the sun-catapults!

no need

I can cause spontaneous combustion so powerful it makes the sun look like a space heater

Nothing more than a slightly sharp toothbrush will get the job done just fine.

Perhaps it was a little too early to start with the bourbon.

drinking is bad for you

you shouldn't drink

not even water

water can kill you

be very careful of drink

Dihydrogen monoxide is a killer!

so you want

to be free

to live your life

the way you wanna be

will you give

dammit, i need to google

@DavidFreitag indeed luckily there's sites like dhmo.org who get the word out!

the moment has passed, nevermind

Prolonged exposure to solid DHMO causes severe tissue damage.

Gaseous DHMO can cause severe burns.

I should remix Killer

that sounds like a good idea

just so I can reproduce that bassline, it's a little iconic and all

@kalina yeah and call it Trucker!

lol

oh I was going to call it filler, and sing about decorating

@RоryMcCune Hmm, that makes me wonder. Is there a large amount of truckers over there? I would say at least 30% of traffic here is large trucks, possibly more.