The DMZ

kalina

18:00

how can you love something you don't care about?

AviD

well, I did change a few years ago, and now I'm trying to change back - or rather, do both at once

development and security are two slightly different fields, I wanna do both

Simon

@AviD Stop living in a 3rd world country you donut.

AviD

@kalina I love the field, dont care about what most companies are doing

@Simon oh believe me, that has very little to do with it

kalina

I like how the Canadian is talking about people who live in third world countries

TildalWave

and about Israel no less LOL

AviD

18:02

@kalina hahaha

Simon

@TildalWave You wanna fight?

I've collected a bunch of rocks.

kalina

I like how he picks @TildalWave to fight with

Simon

Never fight with a lady.

TildalWave

@Simon It's pointless you're a Canadien ... even your declaration of hostilities would be polite and apologetic

Rоry McCune

@AviD sure but your implication from "whoring" was taking a job for the cash :op

kalina

18:05

aww, I'm a lady

<3

literally made my day

Simon

wat

kalina

at least until he undoes it with the next thing he says

Rоry McCune

@Simon @kalina and @Simon in a tree K.I.S.S.I.N.G :op

Simon

NO

kalina

also I now feel old

today's studio session is a ginormous waste of time

Rоry McCune

18:07

@kalina console yourself with the fact that your 10+ years younger than me :)

kalina

primarily because I seem to have changed from the role of dance artist to IT technical support by doing nothing more than arriving when the PC wasn't working

Simon

@kalina Then take the day off. You should know how inspiration works by now, if you're not motivated at all I doubt you'll produce anything good.

kalina

happy accidents happen

sometimes you can just be twisting knobs and hitting keys and suddenly BAM

international number 1

or so I'm told

since I've never had an international number 1

Simon

Yeah I've had a producer explain this phenomenon to me.

kalina

the main thing is stress

Simon

18:09

My favorite track of his was produced like that.

Stress?

kalina

don't introduce any state of mind that could result in data related mistakes

Simon

Oh.

kalina

like overwriting the final mixdown of a project you were working on

Simon

Or farting loudly on a first date.

kalina

but, I merely took what I learned from my time working in IT to resolve that problem, and use svn

@Simon talk about lowering the tone!

I'm out of here before I end up reverting to cynical technical support person

Rоry McCune

18:13

Why did the chicken cross the Mobius strip

To get to the same side

Simon

I feel like my level of nerdiness is not high enough to get it.

Iszi

@kalina Wait... Atwood, as in Jeff? That can't be good...

Simon

I think I want a new dad, this one ^ is boring as hell.

Rоry McCune

@Simon I'd suggest @AviD but he may be kidded out already..

Simon

@RоryMcCune Yeah he definitely was a candidate until I learned he's unemployed.

Rоry McCune

18:19

@Simon perhaps @RoryAlsop he's gainfully employed

jrg

@RоryMcCune Hah!

Simon

@RоryMcCune Yeah but... HR you know.

Rory Alsop

@Simon again wid da HR... sheesh

Simon

hehe

Rory Alsop

@RоryMcCune I like that

Simon

18:32

You get mocked more about HR than me with PHP.

Rory Alsop

@Simon nah, not really. I'm pretty immune to mocking

Simon

me2

AviD

@RоryMcCune well, yes, but noone would be able to pay me enough to do something I would be suffering at, at least not long term

i.e. the daily enjoyment (or at least not suffering) long term would simply be a requirement, but not the purpose

Simon

You're a daily enjoyment.

OH MY GOD

There.

TildalWave

On a different note, it's only 3 more days to St. Nicolas Day :) Pressies!!!

Rоry McCune

18:43

@RoryAlsop drinks by the dram christmas cracker joke apparently.. a cut above the usual!

AviD

@TildalWave 2 weeks till Hannuka! LOTS of presents!

Simon

LOLHANNUKA

AviD

'course, I'm the one that needs to buy them....

Simon

@AviD Sucker! On Christmas, Santa Claus does all that for us.

TildalWave

hehe yes that's what I meant ... lots of pressies that won't buy themselves ... I really hate shopping

it's like a trick or treat day here

Simon

18:50

@AviD didn't reply anything mean to what I've said since I stated that he was a candidate to become my dad, I think it means that he wants to be.

AviD

I would rather shove this hot poker up my own ass.

that said, if you do go that way, I will personally pay for my own plane ticket to Canada, pop into a Tim Hortons to buy a hot poker (and donuts), then find you and shove it up yours.

the hot poker, not the donuts.

(or any other object of your willful misunderstanding).

Simon

da hell is a hot poker

Rоry McCune

►

Simon

@RоryMcCune That's something.

Rоry McCune

@Simon that's the baby eating bishop of bath & wells

Simon

18:56

That's also a lot of pixels.

Rоry McCune

@Simon it's also a plant en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kniphofia

►

Simon

Oh Wikipedia, fundraising!

closes tab

Is that Mr. Bean?

Rоry McCune

@Simon yes but when he was far funnier as Blackadder

Simon

I must concentrate to catch everything they say -.-

schroeder

Blackadder > Bean

I have an environment with a mix of windows and mac. I need a tool to monitor software inventories on both (cuz everyone has local admin, of course). Suggestions? Everything that I know is Windows-only.

Simon

19:04

@schroeder You fake Canadian.

schroeder

@Simon Well, I did spend a lot of time working in the US. But you can't beat my love of donuts ....

@Simon Tim's Canadian Maple ftw

Simon

A true Canadian at last.

AviD

@RоryMcCune huh, never heard of that one. Obviously I meant the first.

Rory Alsop

Red hot pokers (the plant) grow really well in Orkney

Simon

When does winter bash start?

TildalWave

19:17

it should start tomorrow

Simon

yay

AviD

@RoryAlsop do those hurt as much?

TildalWave

ah no no

> 15 December 2014 to 4 January 2015

Simon

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

TildalWave

hehe

kids

winterbash2014.stackexchange.com

hmmmm

Simon

19:19

whoa

TildalWave

should we hack it?

Simon

Absolutely.

TildalWave

just hit the button LOL

Simon

LMAO

The 2013 page actually shows the real page.

Rоry McCune

@AviD yeah me either, the missus had tho'

TildalWave

19:33

How does "my other password is password123" for a t-shirt slogan sound like?

schroeder

@TildalWave "Come to the darker side: we have your passwords"

Simon

20:20

You're a password.

AJ Henderson

@Simon so the password is doughnut?

Simon

The answer is 42 you donut.

schroeder

21:12

mmmm 42 donuts ....

Xander

I have officially joined @AviD on the list of unemployed bums. It's too bad we don't live near each other. We could play chess in the park, and feed pigeons, or something.

AviD

21:31

@Xander oo pigeons, that sounds yum.

I mean FUN!

@Xander why, what happened?

and where is this "list" you speak of?

AJ Henderson

@Xander well that's unfortunate

AviD

@AJHenderson you dont know that

@Xander was it? unfortunate, I mean?

AJ Henderson

when isn't it unfortunate? Leaving a job isn't always unfortunate, but then you normally have something else lined up

unless you are retiring, in which case most people don't call it being unemployed

Xander

@AviD Company needs to "re-focus" my product team got the ax, the old story. Life moves on. Anyway, it was fun while it lasted, (which was 9 years, so I have nothing to complain about) and on to the next thing, whatever that may be.

TildalWave

Is there any discernible difference between tens of hundreds and thousands? :D — TildalWave ♦ 1 min ago

Xander

21:38

@AviD I think the list is on LinkedIn somewhere.

AviD

@Xander aww sucks. That does suck.

Xander

@AJHenderson Thanks! I'm actually ok with it. I enjoyed the job, but happy to move onto new things too.

AviD

@Xander "Current Company: Independent"

@Xander great, so lets look for new jobs together.

@JeffFerland just posted a link to facebook jobs...

Xander

@AviD Exactly. Hangin' out a shingle. :-) Been there, done that, though last time it was on my own terms. Just need to design the new logo.

AviD

OOOOORRR we could start our own ~~little band of misfits~~ startup

Gilles

21:40

@TildalWave tssk. Learn to read, young padawan.

AviD

hmm, I should get a shingle.

A shingle, @Simon, not the shingles

Xander

@AviD Sweet! We could be non-independent independents.

Rоry McCune

@AviD isn't that what Sean Connery has when he's almost drunk enough for the night?

Gilles

@AviD ah, a single shingle

TildalWave

@Gilles shuddup you!

and - heh

AviD

21:41

@RоryMcCune heh, took me a moment, forgot to use his voice

Rоry McCune

@AviD only works with the voish

Gilles

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Q: Soundness of GRC.com Haystack padding concept

I was wondering how sound is the concept presented by the Gibson Research Corporation (see below if you do not want to follow the link) about simple passwords (= very easy to remember) with the addition of padding. I understand what Gibson is getting at with increased search space, etc., but I w...

uh-oh

AviD

close it as a dupe of the other q asking about one of his stupid "ideas"

Xander

@Gilles Yay! Steve returns to the Stack Exchange.

AviD

I think we should tag all those q's with gibson, which should be an automatic synonym for security-theater.

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TildalWave

21:48

@Gilles I'll expect a new goggle cloth in my xmas stuffing then :)

Simon

22:00

@AviD @Xander Let's do a startup together. Since you both are unemployed right now, you can start thinking what would the startup be. Then, if you can do all the work while I do nothing and get 10% of the net profit.

Xander

@Simon Are you sure you don't want to be the janitor?

Hmm...Maybe that's not such a good idea. I like toilets that are clean, and work.

TildalWave

OK @Gilles how about this one?

@DeerHunter It's a link to GRC, are you sure you want to read more about it? Personally, I'd rather attend a seminar on zen furniture rearranging... — TildalWave 50 secs ago

Simon

22:19

@Xander You super donut.

You could also make some money off that Sony leak.