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02:12
@RoryAlsop Oh, hey, I missed that one.
My name is even the English variant! It's not that hard.
The last name is German, but that's also why I'm still planning to have that changed some time ... soon.
 
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04:24
Checked my last name with that one and there was no translation. #sofinnish #justfinnthings
@Kisunminttu Heh, that's not surprising. I don't think there are many surnames that have direct translations
05:05
Have to share:
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Q: Can the TSA require supplemental screening AFTER a flight has landed?

tylerlA few days ago, Kahler Nygard reportedly received a boarding pass indicating secondary screening was required, but that pat-down was reportedly never done. So when the plane landed, they took the passenger off the plane ahead of the others and requested that he submit to the screening at the dest...

> The proposition screening a passenger after the flight might retroactively increase the fight's safety is, I think we can all agree, counter to the fundamental nature of causality.
--me
 
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06:46
@ThomasPornin why am I wrong thinking this guy has a point:
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Q: Encrypting the salt with password

CuriousSalts are stored in the plain text and readily available with the hashed passwords if the password database is compromised. What if we encrypt the salt using password itself? Doesn't it make offline dictionary attack more difficult as the attacker now has to identify the salt to break the passwor...

07:32
@tylerl Yea, because fuck logic.
@Arperum is that verb-noun, or is it topic-descriptor?
@AviD I leave the choice to the reader. Take your pick.
As a sidenote: could you stop throwing my brain in the gutter?
heh. I tend to have that effect on women.
@LucasKauffman The point he has is that he's not introducing any vulnerability, which is good.
However, the only advantage is the extra step an attacker has to take and try to decrypt the salt with the potential password before hashing and comparing, which is quite negligible given that most encryption schemes are quite fast.
@AviD I'm most definitely not a women.
07:47
Unproven.
@Lucas So, really, the only thing he's doing is essentially the equivalent of adding one more iteration to his hashing procedure.
@Adnan yea that was what I was thinking
@Arperum Well, you're in Belgium. You have a chance to be verified by @Lucas
By the way, who verified @Lucas?
@Kisunminttu I think it means something in French...
@tylerl heard about that. shocking, but shouldnt be.
@Adnan I can confirm that he looks exactly like his display picture.
07:50
@TerryChia But who verified you?
@Adnan Yo momma.
If we consider that @RoryA is the verification authority, then @RŠ¾ryM is verified, and I'm verified, and thus @Kisu is also verified
Oooh.. yeah yeah, the ALS videos also count as acceptable verification
@Adnan actually what he's doing is trying to recreate an HMAC of sorts, and poorly.
Hmm.. I can't decide on good margins for my CV
2cm are too wide, and 1cm are looking too narrow
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@Adnan TWSS!
07:58
@TerryChia What?!
Oooh
FTR: I didn't star that.
It must be @Avi
of course its avi, its always avi. who else would it be. Why is it always AviD?
According to the star side bar, 22cm is too wide.
08:27
@Adnan @RoryM and @Terry
I have two factor validation
@LucasKauffman Ooh, nice!
Hopefully we'll see you at AppSec EU 2015 (it's gonna be near you)
actually 3 if you count Marion
and then you'll be 4-factor verified
@Adnan where is it?
@LucasKauffman Amsterdam
08:28
@Adnan Right, you will be going there for the talks. ;)
@Adnan thats really close to me... i'll be visiting that one o.o
@TerryChia I don't think tourists are allowed to... ummm.. have talks there
There were changes to the laws regarding that
@Adnan Ahh right. I recall that.
@Lighty Oh yeah, hmm.. they just tweeted that they changed the venue to Baghdad
@Adnan just not in the cities bordering belgium
@Adnan you still can
@Adnan We're in for a bang
08:33
@LucasKauffman In practice, of course.
 
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11:57
From IRC:
> ECB should be an instagram filter
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12:15
@CodesInChaos took me a moment to parse that :-)
12:33
Everybody loves the ECB penguin :-)
@CodesInChaos Interesting idea actually. :P
@TerryChia startup, go!
@TerryChia It only works if the image has large monochromatic areas, so using it on photos will just produce random noise.
@AviD Hey, you are the only SV hipster in the room.
Could be fixed by reducing the image to 16 colours before applying ECB
12:36
@CodesInChaos so it needs to be a secondary filter, after the first filter removes all the tone and texture.
or just use it to make Justin Beiber songs.
@AviD Justin Bieber's songs are probably indistinguishable from random noise.
@CodesInChaos obviously. Crypto-Tux!
@TerryChia unfortunately not
Random noise is much more soothing
@TerryChia SV?
@TerryChia umm... yeah thats what I said.
Almost word for word.
Useless.
@CodesInChaos silicon valley
12:38
@TerryChia oh when does the next season start?
Isn't AviD in Israel?
@CodesInChaos Just mocking his conversion to hipsterdom after starting at his new job. :)
Looks like I'm missing too much on DMZ...
@AviD Did you buy the new iPhone yet?
@CodesInChaos That's not a bad thing...
@TerryChia ha, nooo... I'm more hipster, I'm a Lumia fan. Literally before it became popular.
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@CodesInChaos yes, but I work for a startup based in SV.
also - Silicon Vadi, amirite?
12:41
user image
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or actually that would be Wadi in English, hmm....
@AviD make sure to wear suspenders and knee high socks
@AviD Is that the arab version :P?
@Lighty Is that the place people go after @AviD kickbans them from The DMZ?
@Lighty congratulations. Your first message that I did not want to kick you for.
@LucasKauffman I think you misunderstand hipsterdom.
not that I am the expert....
@AviD thanks, now i sleep at night
12:42
@TerryChia I think he was referring to the DMZ....
@AviD The DMZ is just a little too filthy to be a daycare center.
they both have the same amount of sh*t though
@Lighty @AviD That's your cue to ban @Simon and @Lighty.
@Lighty #2 ;-)
@TerryChia nah, he's not wrong.
@AviD Never said he was. ;)
Just saying you should cleanup a little. :P
12:57
meh
better?
@AviD Wadi El Silikoon
Hehehehe... sounds like that would be Lebanon
Silicone Vadi, for us
amirite?!
does Lebanon have a bouncy hitech scene?
High five for me
@AviD It's uuh.. hmmm.
13:04
@Adnan I take it you are "working" from home today. We can tell.
There's a stereotype in the Arab world that Lebanese woman do a lot of plastic surgeries
you know, plastic.. silicon
Silicon Valley
ahhhh okay, missed that
@Adnan "-- urging her to slim down her thighs and fix up her eyebrows."
Damn you, eyebrows!
@Kisunminttu I like your eyebrows
@Kisunminttu there was not a single non-repulsive sentence there.
13:08
@Adnan Thank you. I like yours, too
@Kisunminttu Let's have eyebrow-sex
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@AviD Maybe you just need to fix your eyebrows and you could see this matter differently
so do I ;-)
@Adnan YES!
@Kisunminttu heh. eyeBROW. Singular.
13:09
@Adnan I... what.... how...? nevermind...
@AviD EYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
umm... that was referring to me...?
besides, there is nothing ever wrong with ginger.
@AviD If it's red, you should have a doctor look at it
Sep 8 at 9:57, by Arperum
@TerryChia Brain --> gutter.
hmm.
ha, now your star looks stupid.
13:12
@AviD So's your face.
Predictable.
like yo momma.
@TerryChia for some reason I started laughing uncontrollably
I'm a bit tired, I think
@Kisunminttu Is @Adnan tickling you?
@TerryChia No, but now I want that and he's at work. Thanks a lot! >:(
@Kisunminttu then you command him to do that once he returns from work
13:14
@Lighty I think asking nicely would work better.
@Kisunminttu isn't that the same when you're in a relationship? ;P
@Lighty No.
@Lighty Nope
ahw ):
@Kisunminttu because your face is always funny.
@Lighty so much nope.
13:16
Maan, I'm breaking a lot of rules in my CV
and now youre back to being on the verge of being kicked again.
I'm afraid it's gonna look stupid in the end
@Adnan so's your face.
@Kisunminttu ^ see?
@Adnan You know I'll be honest with my opinion, right?
@Kisunminttu Honey... you never had anything resembling a CV
I'm sorry, but I won't be asking for your opinion on this
13:18
@Adnan Well I've made one but never used it
@Adnan alright
@Adnan You can ask @RoryAlsop. He's in the best position to judge. ;)
@AviD That's pretty much what I'm basing my CV on
@TerryChia CV for $BIG_CORP is different from CV for, well, anything else. So if thats what you want...
@Adnan excellent!
@TerryChia WHAT DID I DO?
LEAVE ME ALONE
13:21
@Simon Today? Nothing yet. :P
@TerryChia Lies, I answered some e-mails and called someone.
@AviD I also made it "hip" with icons and shit
Well, I'll show you (and show @RoryA) when I'm done
@Adnan add Comic-Sans
@Lighty I'm not sure you understand what "hip" means.
@TerryChia if you really think that was a serious thing, im worried how bad people think of me now
@Kisunminttu Close enough.
i made a calculator in Javascript using only OnClick methods
http://studiolupa.nl/kevin/jscalc.html
as someone who is on the begin of the world of programming, im jsut full of energy now that it works after trying and troublesolving xD
@Lighty So... your name is Kevin
@Adnan yup
@Lighty Don't use eval please.
Trying typing alert("xss") into the box and press "=".
13:37
that stuff isnt static or anything, just a JS calculator with twitter-bootstrap CSS thrown against it
its as basic as my skills
@TerryChia More like, alert("Something that isn't XSS but many people keep calling it XSS")
@Lighty Best practices start from the basics. Never ever eval() anything you get from user input.
@Lighty Don't worry, it's worse then that.
@Kisu Even Wikipedia knows what's up
...
@Adnan thanks adnan, now im hungry
13:40
@Adnan Yeah, but the distinction isn't really that important here.
@TerryChia It is! One is real Kebab, and the other is fake
abab is jsut the bread with sauce and veggies
doner ish ze meat
you also have doner durum
I want döner kebab now
Thanks, @Adnan
@Kisunminttu Ewww
It's ok to be gay let's rejoice with the boys in a gay waaaaaayyyyy
13:41
@Kisunminttu a moment on the lips...
@Simon *fab
@Lighty I DON'T EVER UNDERSTAND A SINGLE WORD OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING
@Lighty Umm.. NO!
@Simon i know
@Simon Is it bad that I think what music clip you are referring to?
13:42
@Adnan no? D:
@Arperum No it's not :D
@Arperum "@Simon Is it bad... " Yes.
@Simon My ex-girlfriend showed it to me years ago.
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@Arperum and that was the last time you saw it?
@Arperum Yeah the last time I watched it was years ago too.
13:44
@Adnan Kebab racist
I have no idea how my brain managed to get it back in my thoughts.
@Simon You saw what @Arperum's ex-girlfriend showed him...?
@TerryChia Of course I did.
@TerryChia but only years ago
@Adnan I think that was the reason why it was "years ago".
13:45
What a bunch of perverted donuts.
@Simon You'll probably never forget that thing. It can't be unseen.
@Arperum Yeah and the song is catchy as hell.
No wonder how many hours of drilling my ears with distorted kicks and dirty basslines, I still remember it.
@Simon I think I need to punch you for reminding me of it's existence though.
@Arperum I don't think I'd be mad at you.
I hate not being able to edit a post after X mins when I realized what I typed made no sense.
I guess that's one of the risk of being a donut lover.
@Simon Isn't it tiring to do that after every single post?
13:54
@TerryChia YOU'RE MEAN MEAN MEAN MEAN MEANLY MEAN
I learned how to count backwards, thanks to this track: "FOUR AND THREE AND TWO AND ONE".
@AviD very true
Hmm, anyone read up on how Apple Pay works? (Serious discussion here, leave the fanboism aside.)
Microsoft 4 lyf3
@Terry Which reminds me, I asked the guy about Sentry. They used it for one month and that's it. He said it wasn't really for them. Had they had multiple installations of multiple projects, that would have been great for them
@TerryChia Hipster @Avid is already using it.
14:06
@Kisunminttu @Adnan there's another watchlist for your growing collection.
@Adnan Ah cool. So it's more a "product does more than what we need" thing rather than anything inherently broken with it?
@TerryChia Exactly
@Adnan Cheers, good to know.
@LucasKauffman no, but I did just have a talk today with a guy pushing a Rust based enterprise app...
@AviD That... does not sound smart...
14:08
Yeah, nobody likes rust.
it's okay, its a security app.
I never met someone who said "my car is rusting, it's lovely!"
@Simon WD-40
@Lighty Oh yeah man, it fixes your car body like there's no tomorrow
14:09
hmm, that seems to be NSFW.
So anyway, it appears as though Apply Pay stores credit card info on your device in a tokenized form instead of the credit card info itself. That seems like a positive thing for security.
@TerryChia Which is then backed up on 900 different servers.
@TerryChia It's pretty much Coin + Cloud + Contactless
@Simon No. Stored on device only apparently.
@TerryChia Yeah and I'm a donut.
14:12
@TerryChia The token, yes, but the payment info (CC stuff) are on Apple's servers
@Adnan That doesn't appear to be the case from the stuff I have read? It sounds more like the token itself is handled by the CC companies.
Unless the marketing speak is misleading of course.
> With Apple Pay, instead of using your actual credit and debit card numbers when you add your card, a unique Device Account Number is assigned, encrypted and securely stored in the Secure Element, a dedicated chip in iPhone and Apple Watch. These numbers are never stored on Apple servers.
@TerryChia At first, I thought about that (because they're asking for support from Visa and MasterCard)
but then I read somewhere else something contradicted that
@Adnan Have a link handy?
Digging in my history..
Because if it works the way I assume it does, it's an incredibly plus for security imo.
14:16
@Adnan One does not simply dig into's @Adnan's history with a sane mind.
Even if it does not, the fact that you don't need to hand out your actual CC details to any old merchant is a slight plus as well.
14:27
my prayers to satan have been awnsered, the coffee machine down at HR's office broke, if they want coffee they have to go down to the lobby and buy some >:D
@Lighty ...? Were you mad because people were getting free coffee?
@Simon nah, there's there is only one person working there, and she has all the qualities that makes me disgust her using up our oxygen
she reminds me of dem westboro bapist church nuts, shes also really fat, mean, and has an opinion about everyone and everything, with NO knowledge about it at all
so she rolls through the corridor every now and then to go downstairs and get coffee
makes me regret i never learned to play the tuba
wat
@Lighty eh...wat???
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Q: Classical Ciphers for creating secure passwords

CuriousA shift cipher shifts every letter of a word by "n" amount and creates new word. The number of possible keys in the shift cipher is equal the size of the alphabet set from which the word is derived. For example if the words are derived from the set of lowercase letters there are 26 different keys...

@RoryAlsop no?
no-one ever saw that video of guys chasing fat people with a tuba while playing the theme song of the fat guy and the thin guy in slomo
oh, goddamn, i forgot their names..
ah
laurel and hardy
harly?
14:42
Hardy
@Lighty I don't remember that one, but it sounds reasonable
@Adnan Kiss me
@RoryAlsop i volunteer
@Lighty You can be Hardy for @Adnan's Nelson?
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@RoryAlsop laurel please, @Adnan can be the fat guy
@RoryAlsop :D
14:46
i wanna make fire with my thumb D:
@RoryAlsop I don't think he's gonna do it on the cheek, though
@Lighty .......right
@Adnan ;)
@badiotday
We put the IoT in idiot.
353 tweets, 758 followers, following 84 users
Another Twitter account worth following.
I refuse to upgrade my toaster above v3.6 when they implemented DRM
15:19
I can't believe how easy it is to get a PhD in Finland
at least in my city
@Adnan I want one too, where can I get one?
@Kisunminttu Memorize a bunch of stuff, put up with a semi-decent and heavily-bureaucratic educational system, and then you'll have your Bachelor's. Memorize a bunch more stuff, create a low quality Word document and call it a thesis, and you'll get your Masters. Finally, convince the school that you know what you're doing (which isn't that difficult where we live, because they're so desperate for anything!), and you have your PhD position. Yay!
@Adnan I do have to correct you on something: you need a thesis for the Bachelor's as well.
@Kisunminttu Hahahah "thesis"
hehehehe
It's a "graduation homework"
@Adnan My teacher just sent me that our thesis appointment for tomorrow is now cancelled because I submitted the draft (5 pages) to her today, which is apparently too late.
"Three days in advance" and now I'll just have to wait another month for the next appointment :D
15:30
@Kisunminttu While I think that the educational system in our city is shit, I'll go ahead and agree with your teacher. One day in advance is too close
@Adnan Well she did say that, but I forgot, so it's my fault. And my thesis partner's.
No way I'm graduating on time...
@Kisunminttu You're being redundant. It's your fault in both counts. Your fault for forgetting, and your fault for choosing that thesis partner
@Adnan Yeah you're right
@Adnan Try to be harsher, it always ends up well in a relationship.
@Simon Sorry, I don't do the "Oh, you're perfect and your choices are flawless. It's other people's fault and not yours" thing
Not with friends
not with family
and certainly not with @Kisu
I respect her more than that
15:35
@Adnan I never said that nor would I do it myself. It did sound harsh anyway.
Anyway, that's none of my business.
15:51
QOTW! QOTW! QOTW!
@Kisunminttu Goddamn that's cute.
@TerryChia IKR!
ITT: Terry has a heart.
@Kisunminttu Awww! Now I want an owl
15:55
@Adnan I think pet owls are more common than pet crows, so you have that going for you
@Kisunminttu Oh! With you, I have a lot more going for me, baby.
@Adnan I... love you too? Or are you calling me fat?
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@Kisunminttu Ooooh.
@Kisunminttu What?!
Oh, now I get it
@Adnan :D :*
The internet on my phone stopped working today at around two o'clock, but I'm too lazy to actually troubleshoot
That's gud.
@Simon So's your mom.
ok
and we talk about @Lighty being immature
17:04
Oh here we go, I can't drag icons on my Desktop. Windows/10.
And we all know what's gonna fix it, sigh.
@Simon Have you tried turning it off and on again?
@Kisunminttu I just did and it works!
How magical.
@Simon Wait... really?!
@Kisunminttu Yep, it's Windows, that's how you solve most of the problems.
17:48
Another message from Adriana
@Adnan Where can I find this bitch?
@Kisunminttu Seems like her email address is [email protected]
Looks like a very legitimate email address
@Adnan I'm emailing this trollop right now!
@Kisunminttu NO! I love Adriana!
She keeps telling me ways to make money from home, make my man parts bigger, and get blue pills from some Canadian pharmacy!
I have a connection with her!
@Adnan Ummm... let's not have this discussion on the DMZ...
17:52
She also keeps telling me that I need to login to Facebook using a link she provides
@Adnan gasp! You're engaging in unprotected internet activities with her?! That is IT.
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@Jeff All good?
@Adnan All good. Just figured I'd come visit you guys once or twice a year :)
Weren't you here yesterday? Looks like we're not gonna see you again in 2014.
@Adnan Stop cheating on @Kisunminttu.
17:59
@CodesInChaos You only say that because you want Adriana for yourself.
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