The DMZ

Rory Alsop

10:00

Don't get me wrong, I'm incredibly tolerant of any religion or belief. As long as it doesn't ring my doorbell on a Sunday morning, or stand in my way at a train station, or evangelise in any way

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kalina

@RoryAlsop "excuse me" followed by a knee to the nuts

FEichinger

@RoryA Suit and long hair seems to indicate a problem for them. :P

Arperum

@FEichinger Just long hair doesn't work though.

Adnan

Lighty

i once opened the door, and it was such a jahova witness, i said no thanks and closed the door, finding his foot inbetween my door and the post, i opened it and calmly asked "do you believe that you lord will save you froma broken foot within 2 seconds?"

Adnan

10:04

Bad logo choice for a resort

Lighty

that foot was gone in a blink of an eye, and i could go back to wasting my life with sleeping

FEichinger

@Arp Now what are you doing here?

kalina

@Adnan for a resort?

Arperum

@Lighty I've seen that exact post on so many places now that I don't believe it.

@FEichinger Hiding in the shadows. And being bored. Bridge is asleep too much.

Lighty

@Arperum good fo you :3

@Adnan i'ts totally not a coverup for a super-uber-secret biologic reshearch facility for bioweapons

FEichinger

10:05

@Arp Tsk. There are plenty reasons to abandon the Bridge. "It's asleep" ain't one of them.

Adnan

@Kalina Looks like some biohazzard area, so I'm not sure

Kisunminttu

This is so interesting

Arperum

@Lighty Also: it's not because someone is being a complete moron that physical damage is a good solution.

kalina

@Adnan well it does have a logo reminiscent of a biohazard warning

Lighty

@Arperum if you read it, you could see i got rung out of bed, for someone to says useless stuff, and when i deny them, they set a foot in my house, and how is scaring them away not a good idea?

Adnan

10:07

@Kalina infested with old rinkly rich people.

Arperum

@FEichinger Also: occasional gifstorms.

kalina

@Adnan sounds like the perfect place for bioweapons testing

Adnan

An old dude offered me a beer

Lighty

accept

Kisunminttu

@Adnan You know what they say

Lighty

10:08

you always accept drinks

Adnan

@Kisu no I don't

Kisunminttu

@Adnan Oh.

FEichinger

@Arp Also, yeh, long hair alone doesn't work. Then they either think you're a tree hugger or a "satanist" worth "saving".

Kisunminttu

Me, neither

Adnan

And I'm sure he's not trying to hook me up with his daughter

Or wife

Arperum

10:09

@Lighty Last time they bothered me I was really deep into the coding I was doing at the time, them visiting for 2 minutes caused me at least 1 hour of extra work, still didn't try to smash their feet. I told them very clearly that I was not interested and that I was at work, and that they should not return at a later date.

Adnan

Or, looking at him, his grad grand daughter

Lighty

@FEichinger someone wanted to sue me yesterday for Blasphemy (which is illigal if you publicly say something like death to all muslims over here, not if you dont believe, racism in public is illigal too, to compare) because i showed signs of autism

i pissed my pants laughing

Arperum

@FEichinger Yea, I assume they expect satanist with me, with me always wearing a bandshirt that may or may not contain skulls and/or blood.

Kisunminttu

@Adnan my boss just asked me if you can cook

kalina

invite them in, pick up the phone, mock a conversation about how you've got two ripe ones ready for processing and that you'll keep them talking until the meat van arrives

Lighty

10:11

@kalina thats not really a bad idea :)

Arperum

If I have time I keep talking until they are desperate enough to flee for themself. Or cold enough, because I don't mind standing in the doorway for half an hour pointing out flaws in their arguments.

Lighty

"have you found jesus?"

yes, next door

kalina

@Arperum this is my preferred method yes

saves other people from being victimised

Lucas Kauffman

Jehova's witnesses, god they tend to be annoying

kalina

and removes all of their momentum

Rory Alsop

10:14

@Arperum My dad used to happily talk to them for ages. He would stand just inside the door. They would be just outside. In Orkney weather - notoriously windy, rainy, stormy and horrible :-)

Lucas Kauffman

Or just say, "SATAN WILL RAISE AGAIN"

Arperum

@kalina They also look so demotivated after half an hour.

Lighty

@LucasKauffman i actually pulled that one on my over-religious aunt

kalina

people actually live in Orkney?

Lighty

she went like " oh, lighty can be saved, he's athiest, if we just read him the bible..."

Rory Alsop

10:14

@kalina sure - then they move south to Edinburgh :-)

my folks still live there

Lighty

i stood up, tried to mimic a low voice and went like "you cannot defeat me, mortal"

Rory Alsop

It is one of the most beautiful parts of the world

hardly any people

kalina

my favourite one after convincing them you're their personal best success story is turning around and saying "so how does the scientifically proven process of evolution fit into all of this?"

Lighty

then i sat down and minded my own buisness, which was eating pie

Rory Alsop

@kalina could get them to sit down on the couch, then just before starting to chat, put on some Lamb of God at high volume

kalina

10:16

@RoryAlsop if I were going to do something like that, I'd use gabber

Arperum

@kalina I should try that one day, I suck at pretending that they got me though.

Rory Alsop

@kalina heh - fair enough. Not sure I'd cope with that at my age. I used to be able to cope

kalina

gabber reduces most mere mortals to very sad people

Lighty

@kalina they would reply with "its not scientificly proven", heard that before

Arperum

@RoryAlsop The song "Pagan war' from Manegarm should work too.

Lighty

10:17

or Highway to hell

:3

Rory Alsop

@Lighty too obvious? and too much like 'easy listening' classic rock

Terry Chia

31

Q: Why are my kids naked?

I was playing my old hearth fire save in skyrim when my kids where only wearing their underwear and when I attempted to give them cloths they didn't do anything with them. Anyone else have the solution? EDIT Now the rest of the skyrim kids aren't wearing cloths

This is an interesting title.

Lighty

it has a word in there that makes over-religious people melt, and people without music knowledge refer all rock to metal

and guitars are a sin according to them, sometimes

you know what i read (dont have the proper verse), i read, that there is a sentence in the bible, that explains that going to the toilet for a number 2, is a sin, if you sit on something, instead of hovering above a hole

still trying to find it xD

Rory Alsop

@Lighty really - I don't remember that. Unfortunately I don't have my easy search db on the 3 main bibles and the Koran here at work

Lighty

neither have i, but i have a list of "laughable" sins, but nowhere the verse numbers to confirm

buzzfeed.com/omgitsanf/…

this one has confirmation

kalina

10:49

HEY GUYS

QOTW EVENT IN 10 MINUTES

ALRIGHT LETS DO THIS

LEEEEEEEEEEEERORRRRRRRRRRRRRRY ALSOP

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Lighty

QOTW?

Rory Alsop

@kalina ping @AviD, @Thomas, @Terry and others who have promised a qotw......

I might need to write a brief one tonight otherwise

Lighty

whats a QOTW? xD

Rory Alsop

21

Q: Requests for Question of The Week blog posts

Since starting the Security Stack Exchange Blog on 15 July 2011 we have some excellent blog posts, and a large number of these are from our Question of the Week posts. Going forwards, it is probably simplest to post your favourite Questions of the week as answers on this question, and vote for yo...

discussion blog qotw

Terry Chia

@kalina That needs to be pinned.

Lighty

10:52

ohh, alright

Terry Chia

@RoryAlsop Wasn't that 2 years ago? (@AviD's one)

Rory Alsop

@TerryChia feels like it

:-)

Terry Chia

When did I promise to write one anyway?

kalina

@TerryChia I'm glad you approve

I mean overall it didn't matter either way, since I couldn't edit it

but your approval is important to somebody

Rory Alsop

@TerryChia I don't think you actually did :-)

but you probably should

The last one we published was 11th April

Terry Chia

10:54

@RoryAlsop Actually, get @Adnan to do one.

kalina

get @fei to write one on the merits of PHP

Terry Chia

I don't think he has written for the blog yet?

kalina

and how it's so good it's not worth learning another language

Terry Chia

@kalina Today isn't April 1.

kalina

I was being serious

Arperum

10:55

@kalina Negative length posts might cause an issue.

kalina

@Arperum the way I see it a post titled "The Merits Of PHP" would not be negative length

it would have 16 characters in it

from the title

followed by three more and a full stop

for the body, consisting of "LOL."

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan how's OSCP coming along?

FEichinger

@kalina Stop mocking me! Sheesh.

kalina

20 > 0

@FEichinger that wasn't a mock

Arperum

You made me laugh out loud in the office, good thing noone else is in here.

FEichinger

10:56

@kalina YOU'RE SO MEAN :(

kalina

At least I didn't make out you were some talentless fuckwit whose parents bought your success

although you do use nano

hmmm

dilemma

Lucas Kauffman

PHP is good to learn. It makes you appreciate all the proper programming languages.

nano is foor noobs

Real men use VIM

no-lifers use EMACS

Rory Alsop

@LucasKauffman yay - I'm real

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman To be fair, Emacs is a pretty solid operating system. It just needs a good text editor.

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Rory Alsop

but then, I still use CP/M and COBOL on occasion

kalina

10:59

oh, @rory uses vim, suddenly it's uncool

Terry Chia

@kalina Nono, @RoryAlsop uses the original vi.

Lucas Kauffman

@RoryAlsop you use COBOL on occasion? In what scenario? No one ever said, "I need to automate this task here on Windows, let me write some cobol for that"

FEichinger

@kalina TSK!

Lucas Kauffman

@RoryAlsop do you use a custom .vimrc?

Rory Alsop

@TerryChia actually, this is true

Lucas Kauffman

11:01

and @FEichinger here learn to use a real editor: vim-adventures.com

kalina

QUICK

I NEED A RANDOM CHARACTER STRING

Rоry McCune

@LucasKauffman coboloncogs.org/INDEX.HTM

Rory Alsop

I only have vim on one of my machines. A couple are old enough that there isn't a useful vim implementation

kalina

somebody who doesn't know vim needs to try and quit the application

Lucas Kauffman

@RoryAlsop how old are we talking?

Terry Chia

11:02

@RoryAlsop Wut?

Rory Alsop

@LucasKauffman My oldest computer I still use? 33 years old

it doesn't run vi

kalina

you use a computer that is older than I am?

Rory Alsop

@kalina I guess so

Terry Chia

@RoryAlsop What exactly do you do on that?

Rory Alsop

I would imagine I use a few older than you

if you are still in your early twenties

:-)

Rоry McCune

11:03

@kalina no that's 17 years younger than you...

Rory Alsop

@TerryChia learn

FEichinger

@LucasKauffman I know how to use vim. I just cba to install it every time I set up my PC anew, when all I need is syntax highlighting.

kalina

@RоryMcCune psh

Terry Chia

@RoryAlsop Learn what?

@FEichinger Errrrrr.

kalina

@TerryChia he's so senile he needs refreshers on basic computing

Rory Alsop

11:04

@TerryChia stuff. I play with cp/m, I play with Z80, 6500, 6800 and 68000 machine code

I play with low level stuff

I'm still writing compilers for some hardware

Lucas Kauffman

@RoryAlsop Do you still have an old school IBM with OS300?

@RоryMcCune I'm going to write an app in that

FEichinger

@TerryChia What?

Terry Chia

@RoryAlsop Which part of a modern device stops you from doing this? :P

Rory Alsop

@LucasKauffman Actually no - the oldest IBM machines I have, one runs AIX and the other may still load Dos 6.22 (not sure - haven't powered it on for some time)

@TerryChia modern chipsets - haven't got around to learning them

no time

I have a family you know

keeps me busy

Terry Chia

@FEichinger I'm trying to fathom what sort of system has nano but cannot have vim installed in a single command.

Rory Alsop

11:06

@TerryChia maybe later

FEichinger

@TerryChia Why bother installing it at all, is my point.

Terry Chia

@RoryAlsop x86 and ARM will probably be considered ancient in a hundred years.

Rory Alsop

@TerryChia ARM I know much better than x86

because I have had to learn how to hack my car stereo properly

Lucas Kauffman

hahaha

Terry Chia

@FEichinger Most modern Linux distros has vim installed by default anyway.

Rory Alsop

11:08

as far as x86 goes, I don't have as much of a need

Rоry McCune

@kalina BTW any truckstops you'd recommend in Nebraska?

Rory Alsop

@RоryMcCune that's a weird question

And obviously should be asked over on travel.se

:-)

Rоry McCune

@RoryAlsop kalina has confirmed she's actually a 50 year old trucker from Des Moines

Terry Chia

@RoryAlsop You write assembly for your stereo?

Lucas Kauffman

@TerryChia 8 bit music

Rоry McCune

11:10

@RoryAlsop thus qualified to answer questions on truck stops in Nebraska :)

FEichinger

@TerryChia Ubuntu doesn't, because Ubuntu is speshul.

(And before you ask, I use Ubuntu because it actually works with EFI rather painlessly and comes with pretty much all I really need out of the box.)

Terry Chia

@FEichinger Really? It's likely they just aliased it to vi.

Rory Alsop

@TerryChia yup

FEichinger

@TerryChia Nope. I may be mistaken (and I'm not booted into Ubuntu right now), but last I recall, Ubuntu kept vim off in place of nano. I remember a few discussions on launchpad about that.

Terry Chia

@RoryAlsop NURD

@FEichinger Ahh. Interesting choice...

Rory Alsop

11:12

It currently runs a full implementation of pac-man, breakout and whack-a-mole, has a lyrics scroller, can run distributed.net (but hasn't for a while)

Terry Chia

Also Ubuntu is stupid blah blah blah. ;)

FEichinger

@TerryChia Well, why install clunky-totally-complicated-not-user-friendly vim when you could just give everyone nano rather than having to do tech support for people not figuring out how to exit it. :P

@TerryChia Show me a Debian install that doesn't shit itself over EFI every time, and I'll gladly switch. But they still haven't figured that out.

Rory Alsop

@TerryChia you should see the user group meets - we have a guy who designs and builds UAV's, the guy who wrote the linux IDE drivers, the guy who designed the audio subsystems for the first couple of iphones, a guy who builds jet engines... all nerds and geeks!

Terry Chia

@FEichinger vim is user friendly. It's just that most users are too stupid to use it.

@RoryAlsop Heh, I actually first thought "Integrated Development Environment" when you said IDE. :P

Lucas Kauffman

I prefer vim over nano

FEichinger

11:16

@TerryChia STOP EDITING, I GOT WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO SAY.

Terry Chia

@FEichinger What

FEichinger

ಠ_ಠ

Kisunminttu

@TerryChia But I thought it has the instructions written on the back? saponia.hr/household-products/cleaning-products/vim

Terry Chia

@Kisunminttu Psssh! Who reads instructions? #YOLO

FEichinger

ಠ_ಠ

Rоry McCune

11:20

@TerryChia you trying to summon @simon?

Rory Alsop

@TerryChia #nonoyolo - hang on, wasn't that a room topic?

Lucas Kauffman

►

Kisunminttu

@RoryAlsop It was but after yoloing started becoming more popular they removed it

peer pressure

Lighty

im hungry :I

FEichinger

@RoryAlsop That was silently removed when the Roryhood fell.

Rory Alsop

11:27

Noooooooooooooooooooo

@Lighty I'm eating a baguette with chorizo, chicken, manchego cheese and tomato :-P

Lighty

pff

i need to wait before i can eat, dun wanna shove my face full with noodles while next to me there is a client talkign to my boss :S

Rory Alsop

solution - just eat one noodle at a time

and do it all subtle-like, no cutlery or fingers, just slurrrrrrp

FEichinger

Subtle, huh.

Rory Alsop

@FEichinger that's me - all about the subtle

kalina

Nebraska?

Why would I know about truck stops in Nebraska?

Rory Alsop

11:36

@kalina lol

kalina

Oh right

I get it

Bit slow

FEichinger

@kalina Because you're a trucker from Des Moines, remember.

kalina

Yeah

David Freitag

Maaaan Des Moines? You must've killed hundreds of prostitutes.

kalina

Thousands

I wear their skin to stay warm at night

Made a patch work duvet

FEichinger

11:39

See, with you that is actually quite likely.

Rory Alsop

@FEichinger are you suggesting kalina is Jeremy Clarkson?

kalina

That's even more insulting than calling me Rebecca black

David Freitag

@RoryAlsop I don't think that's quite possible. Not once have i heard @kalina say ".... In the world."

kalina

I have something I've been debating exposing you to

No, not chemical weapons

Although nearly as dangerous

David Freitag

@kalina Me?

Rоry McCune

11:43

@RoryAlsop it was the apostate @AviD that removed it

kalina

I found a track I made a few years ago

Well

An idea

Rоry McCune

room topic changed to The DMZ: The first breach costs you an arm.... [double-entendre] [food] [libations] [nonoavid] [nonoyolo] [rory] [security]

kalina

With me singing on it as a place holder

David Freitag

I'm game for pretty much anything. I spent five minutes in a chamber with tear gas in it, give me your best shot.

kalina

It sounds like somebody is murdering kittens

FEichinger

11:44

... Fitting.

kalina

Because I can't sing

And I don't know if I want such a thing existing on the internet

Might come back and haunt me

FEichinger

You probably don't.

David Freitag

@kalina I can have you email a link, or just the file.

If you really want.

FEichinger

Anyway, gtg. Work and stuff ...

kalina

Lol "just the file"

sounds like a plan that

avoid uploading the file by uploading the file

David Freitag

11:49

You could create a local FTP

send me a public key

and hope I don't share.

But then, even if I do it presumes I have friends i can share it to.

kalina

making fun of yourself isn't going to help get me to upload this stuff

time to create a brand new alias that totally isn't me

Colin Cassidy

tools.cisco.com/security/center/content/CiscoSecurityAdvisory/… - affected products = everything... have a fun Friday chaps

Rory Alsop

@RоryMcCune ahahaha - just read that :-)

@ColinCassidy oh, the joy

David Freitag

@kalina You would think that by now you would've made a script that generates you a new identity. Complete with blood type, education, and even a complete medical history going back eight generations.

Colin Cassidy

@RoryAlsop and that's just cisco

Rоry McCune

11:54

@RoryAlsop nice the CVSS 10 one will get people jumpy

especially the co's who do everything based on CVSS levels

Rory Alsop

@RоryMcCune exactly

Terry Chia

@ColinCassidy Already linked the openssl advisory yesterday. This one is just the cisco branded one. :)

Rory Alsop

@TerryChia this one is the one many corporates will want to see though

kalina

@DavidFreitag I don't need that much detail

Terry Chia

@RoryAlsop There's one from RedHat I think. Maybe that one is useful as well. :P

kalina

12:02

I actually don't know what my blood type is

my blood type must be THC

FEichinger

Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Rory Alsop

@TerryChia tbh, there will be a few, but as everyone uses Cisco, it is a key one

@kalina I didn't know until recently, then I had a gap between tattoos long enough for me to give blood. And they tell you then. I even got a badge with it on

can't remember what type it is, but I'm sure it's 'original'

FEichinger

@DavidFreitag She just needs ASL and a name, really.

Rоry McCune

@TerryChia yeah this + Oracle + SAP + IBM will be important ones...

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune Depends on your perspective. ;)

Colin Cassidy

12:09

@RоryMcCune GE, Siemens, ABB, telvent... depending on your definition of important :)

Rоry McCune

@ColinCassidy @TerryChia well I was thinking banking

back in the days when I worked in banks those were the biiig it suppliers whos kit was everywhere

kalina

I'm bored

Terry Chia

@kalina And no one is surprised.

Rory Alsop

Rоry McCune

I would suggest that anyone with potentially strongly held views steps away from the keyboard now :op

TildalWave

12:17

deafening silence ensues :)

g'day ladies, gents

Rory Alsop

@TildalWave @Til

how goes it

TildalWave

goes well, and the weather seems to be holding so it'll go even better in a couple of hours :) you?

Rory Alsop

temperature here is 10 degrees warmer than yesterday

which is nice

and weird

TildalWave

hehe

it's also much warmer here than last week, was odd for this time of the year but it's normalizing ... 26°C now, going towards 30

Terry Chia

@TildalWave Hello, how's the logo business?

TildalWave

12:20

@TerryChia You discovered some vulnerability? Besides my inability to say no to requests for designs? :D

Terry Chia

@TildalWave Heh, nah. Just being polite. ;)

Kisunminttu

@TildalWave good afternoon

Terry Chia

You should volunteer to do the logo for crypto.se so they can graduate faster.

Lighty

its almost 30C here...

sun shining on the windows

this office is a sauna X.x

TildalWave

@Kisunminttu Hello to Finland! (which is not in Scandinavia, so I hear)

Kisunminttu

12:22

@Lighty Man, I wish I booked sauna for this evening.

FEichinger

@Lighty Well then, get naked and sweat.

Lighty

i have a sauna at home...

if i wanted to sweat, id go in there

Kisunminttu

@TildalWave It's okay, it's not like we wanted to be a part of it anyway...

sulk

TildalWave

@TerryChia It's not too frequent, so I'll take it :) you're OK there? I saw some storm cells forming over your stretch of the woods this morning via ISS HDEV

Terry Chia

@TildalWave That happens a lot in Singapore. ;)

TildalWave

12:24

@TerryChia I bet. So you had a storm then? Or I saw it wrong?

Terry Chia

@TildalWave Yep. Raining these couple of days so the weather is nice.

TildalWave

Wait, raining is nice?

Kisunminttu

The Cat B15Q seems like an interesting upcoming phone phonearena.com/news/…

Terry Chia

@TildalWave It's definitely preferable to 35C.

TildalWave

@TerryChia ouch, yup I agree and looks like we're headed there during next week, or so they promise (33°C on Tue).

So what's up with that last OpenSSL vuln.? Any crisis on the site about it?

front page seems strangely calm

Terry Chia

12:29

@TildalWave I haven't actually paid close attention to the main site in months.

FEichinger

@TildalWave I really need to update my alerts script ...

Rory Alsop

@Kisunminttu yeah. Not on my list, but interesting

Kisunminttu

@RoryAlsop Stumbled upon the predecessor of that one last year and I was impressed seeing it IRL

Lighty

im logging off, mom's birthday, going to buy her a pack of white flowers, and a sweet bottle of red wine

kalina

"logging off"

FEichinger

12:35

@Lighty Doesn't that symbolize something like murder?

Lighty

well, more like throwing my Mac out of the window

@FEichinger no, that symbolizes "look, i spend money on you"

like every birthday rpesent

sadly xD

FEichinger

Birthday presents work perfectly fine without money, too. Cue euphemism.

David Freitag

@kalina so whats the plan now?

kalina

"birthday presents" also known as "blowjobs"

@DavidFreitag I don't know, I don't really have a plan atm

I was just watching futurama

Rory Alsop

@kalina that isn't a euphemism.

kalina

12:44

@RoryAlsop are you sure?

David Freitag

@kalina love that show.

@kalina Aight let me know if you still want me to subject myself to your creation.

kalina

because I figured you would have expected it to mean fellatio but I actually mean handing somebody a package full of RDX with a detonator set to blow on opening

literally... "blown away"

no?

no...

yes

well, maybe

@DavidFreitag I don't know

Rory Alsop

@kalina I always imagined euphemisms being a little more subtle

kalina

@RoryAlsop it was pretty subtle, everybody excepted fellatio

why is it called a blowjob when the act involves sucking

David Freitag

@kalina okiedokie.

kalina

12:47

that's what I want to know

David Freitag

@kalina Wait - you mean it's not supposed to inflate?

kalina

@DavidFreitag well, it is, but that's only tangentially related

David Freitag

@kalina Oh, good. I freaked out the first time it happened. I got worried that it would rupture.

Terry Chia

So I stepped away for 5 minutes and things turned weird.

kalina

did you know, it's possible to snap it

(suddenly the entire channel cringes)

yep, possible to snap it

while it's erect, if you bend it with enough force quick enough, it will rupture

David Freitag

12:53

@kalina Yes, but I doubt it's large enough to get that kind of leverage.

kalina

well yours might not be, but don't rule out the whole of mankind based on yours

my habit of googling just nearly destroyed my existence

Terry Chia

@DavidFreitag That would make a good What If? question. Someone write to Randall.

kalina

as I opened up google images and started typing "snapped pe..."

before realising I was about to permanently damage myself

David Freitag

@kalina Just imagine "boomerang"

kalina

it swells up like a baloon

David Freitag

12:55

Government contracts are such a nightmare.

kalina

Governments are such a nightmare.

David Freitag

I mean, they are a significant source of income for us, but it means i have to have a quarterly meeting with two marines, an five assorted army, navy, and air force goons.

And the occasional awesome NASA teams.

kalina

subtle but well executed change of subject

Terry Chia

@DavidFreitag How's the job btw? Everything better?

kalina

8 out of 10

David Freitag

12:56

Nah, I still want to talk about penises.

kalina

I would but I'm bored of the subject

they never bring me anything but disappointment

David Freitag

I could see why. There's nothing appealing about something that looks like an earthworm in a turtleneck.

kalina

in fact, I'm pretty bored in general

even futurama isn't unboring me

time for drastic action

David Freitag

Procrasturbation?

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