make that apparent stupidity

@kalina Let's be honest here. Your response was nowhere near proportionate to the severity of the subject. You need to get a large meat tenderiser.

Well my response was as close to the line as I can get without getting banned

I'm sure others could get closer but my next level up involves biological warfare using a weapon that only targets men

@kalina That's a bit overkill

Since I'm told by the media that "boys will be boys", and that's acceptable, maybe we should start killing all boys at birth just in case

Needs to be more refined than "only men"

@kalina The sight of a large V8 through the slits on a car's bonnet?

mens will b mens

@kalina That reminds me of something...

Some ancient societies killed their new born daughters because they wanted men to work in fields

@kalina They already knew how to get things done back then, nice.

Maybe we should kill all new born boys because they're unable to demonstrate self control

@kalina Perhaps just a sex-change operation and massive doses of estrogen?

or kill the aprents because clearly they fucked up too

@kalina That sounds less like equality and more like reversal of superiority.

@Lighty well, parents is another story

true

most parents I see are fucking useless wastes of space anyway

and genes

man, there is so much out there you can label as child abuse...

lets find a way to categorise kindness on a scale of 1 to 10

and then kill everybody who is less than an 8

feeding your kid like a pig, not vacinating, teaching bullshit instead of actual things...

@kalina

we would die

@Lighty generally ignoring them for years

thats mentl abuse

@Lighty for the greater good

Is today the official Cynical Day and I didn't know?

if you do that to them as kid, you can be charged with abuse here in the netherlands

@Simon blame the world's press

and men

and Canada

MENS

CANADUH

and the media

Eh

we are actually blaming Canada today, because it was Canada that started this discussion

@kalina Those bastards.

or blame me

Poor choice of color.

no, really, i get the blame, always, i walk past a office in my building and often hear "its all your fault Lighty", and i response with "i know"

Not enough maple syrupish

I see @ScottPack has been promoted to using MSPAINT

@kalina That's a negative. Google Images 4 Lyfe

@ScottPack you went on Google images and chose that piece of shit image out of the billions it returned?

Does anyone have a good guide to setup a python dev environment on Ubuntu?

@Simon yeah, don't

wat

@Simon sudo rm -rf /

@kalina It was the best "Blame Canada" image on the first page.

wget python.org/ftp/python/3.3.5/Python-3.3.5.tar.xz
tar xJf ./Python-3.3.5.tar.xz
cd ./Python-3.3.5
./configure --prefix=/opt/python3.3
make && sudo make install

@Simon dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda bs=4096 count=100

I know you wish your Google skills were as good as mine

Whoops, forgot to mention with Django framework + setup Postgresql

Y'ALL DON'T FEEL SO CLEVER NOW EH?

@Simon sure, feel perfectly clever, it was YOUR fault for providing an incomplete spec of what you needed

so, joke is on you

I DON'T CARE

@Simon My instructions still work.

I'M A MEN, I'M SUPERIOR

A MEN LOL FUCKING RETARDED FUCK

lawl :D

@ScottPack Oh ok, thanks.

I don't see the word "python" anywhere though, is there some sort of obfuscation?

@Simon lmgtfy.com/?q=install+python+postgresql+Django+on+ubuntu

@kalina Wow, it typed the whole thing and clicked on enter, that's sick.

@Simon urandom is shorthand for python

you know what

I provided you your answer

these other monkeys are trying to fuck with you

@Simon you've never see lmgtfy? Noob.

and yet you give me abuse?

@DavidFreitag That's what I thought but I didn't want to look like a weirdo if that wasn't it.

@DavidFreitag Oh c'mon, don't be gullible.

@kalina Yeah it's kinda weird. You are acting somewhat uncharacteristically today.

@DavidFreitag ...

@kalina orly

I don't understand what you're trying to say

I knew you were into me but I'm taken, sorry.

I... what?

wat

@kalina What with the restraint during that whole rape thing. I got popcorn in the hope that you would melt @Lighty's face off, but it didn't happen.

I would rather be with Adnan than you Simon, sorry

how's that for the ultimate rejection?

Guys, it's that time of the year. A list of the bridges in Montreal, please.

you live in Montreal?

now I feel dirty

I can't believe I've been to the city you live in

even if it was just for a connecting flight

Oh my god, do you remember the name of the airport?

You were probably 5 mins away from my job LULZ

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

@Simon You had better cleanse yourself with fire.

I recommend gasoline.

I duno, my flight was from the UK to new brunswick though and it stopped at Montreal to change to a smaller plane

@DavidFreitag Good recommendation, thanks.

because apparently you're only allow to fly planes powered by maple syrup in Canada or some shit?

And moose pee.

I've been scared before but there's nothing quite like landing in several inches of snow in a plane that is barely holding together

and well, it really wasn't worth the flight

shortly after landing in fredericton I came to the realization that Canada is actually a deserted wasteland with two cities and a bunch of villages consisting of mud huts

bored again

still bored

bored

BoReD

b0r3d

throws cheese at @kalina

boooooooooooorrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeddddddddddddddddd

deadbor3d5

@BarryCarlyon IMMUNE

throws vokda at @kalina

throws vodka as well at @kalina

bursts into flames

Someone invoked CHEESE!

oh dammit

Invoke? No. POKE yes.

who threw a flammable liquid on me

afternoon all

o/ Rory

It's not afternoon

also I'm bored

finally we overthrew the Roryhood while you weren't here

and you no longer have any power

I never worshipped Roryhood anyway

me neither

Bored

(You realise there is a Rorie Hood in the security industry, right? He also presented at Securi-Tay, on the Rory track)

you overthrew him, apparently

Bboorreedd

throws a board at @kalina

@kalina I'm not sure I understand how any adult can be as consistently bored as you

Bbbooorrreeefuckingmobilechatddd

Easy

Don't do things that bore you - simples

that'll be £5000

@kalina Get a hobby

Despite what you people think

Either there is an army of dwarves on the roof - or there is a storm.

I am quite intelligent and I process my thoughts very quickly

The last time I was actually bored for more than about 5 seconds was last century

throws money at the screen

@kalina do more things with your brain

at the same time

In conjunction with add

There you go @RoryAlsop

@BarryCarlyon lol

Which causes me to have moments where I just don't remain focused

@kalina I thought you had a solution for that?

Yes I have a case next to me with £5K in…

…

And the fact that what I want to do right now, I can't

bursts into flames

@kalina to be fair, I am easily bored - I just have a solution which pretty much works 100% of the time

Due to it being stupid to make music while my east from is still perforated

@RoryAlsop Yeah, every guy has that I think.

@DavidFreitag pfffft

But because I want to make music, every other activity I could be doing seems dull

So I am bored

No, I keep an interest in many things and I continually working in all those fields. So I continually write stories and music, solve puzzles, read at least 3 books at a time, moderate quite a few SE sites, play games, have a fairly complex job etc tec etc

I don't like letting my brain empty

My brain is full

@kalina how can you be bored then?

allow it to empty a little - excitement can ensue

In the last two weeks I've mocked up 27 ideas for tracks

@kalina Are both ears messed up?

Nope, only right side

Still enough to really prevent me getting past the "ideas" stage though

@kalina fair enough

hope it sorts itself out soon

2 more weeks it should be

I completed watch dogs and it has basically the worst ending of any game I've ever played

As for books...

I don't remember the last time I read a book

I don't enjoy reading

Too much effort to stay focused

@kalina I have at least two physical books in different rooms in the house, I take my kindle with me, and there are always graphic novels kicking about the house. The only thing I don't read are newspapers :-)

Ebooks are even worse

My co-worker just said "J'mappel France" (pardon spelling) and we both burst out laughing for no reason…

I tried reading an eBook once, didn't make it past the epilogue

@BarryCarlyon "Ich bin ein Berliner"

Hamburger

@kalina I far prefer proper paper, but I used to have to take 15 or more books on holiday, and it got annoying. At least the kindle has thousands on it, so I am not at risk of running out

Completely legit

Nope

No books

and it's not like I'm one of those special people who prefer the movies over books

Hi, anyone else have problem logging in at security meta?

@Adnan got me into ebooks

I couldn't survive without them - there are just over 1000 within arms reach of me here at my desk

because I can't watch movies or TV shows either

I freaking love the Kindle now.

@Dogeatcatworld nope

I get some strange redirection loops between login and "ask question" page. And the login link do not work at all

I can ask the question here then :)

What do you think should be done if there is a duplicate question/answer on a different stackexchange site?

1) Mark as duplicate? 2) Answer with link to the other community question, 3) Shamlessly copy the answer? 4) ???

when I watch movies or TV shows, I end up scrubbing through scenes

like whenever there's a panning shot, or an emo scene with no dialogue, or whatever

just skip straight past that

I am terrible to go to the cinema with

since during the intro of whatever is being watched I usually run out of attention and just start playing with my phone for the rest of the movie

@Dogeatcatworld if it's a duplicate answer - nothing, maybe reference it but there is no action to be taken against the question

if they're similar questions from the same user, close for cross posting

if they're similar questions from different users, comment with "relevant: link to other question"

thanks kalina, do you know which movie the image is from, and what is happening in the scene?

Home, wheee.

@kalina Well, not making it past the epi-logue isn't all that terrible.

@Dogeatcatworld A Clockwork Orange, he is being forced to watch violence IIRC.

bored

"I am quite lengthy", my friend says

he's talking about his height

and how he loves tailor made shirts

such an interesting conversation

using the very liberal definition of "interesting"

Tell him that's not how he's gonna get in your pants.

eh, this guy has already been mentally beaten into submission, he doesn't even try anymore

he couldn't be more friendzoned than he is

and he knows it

That might be why he's boring now, he has no hope.

@ScottPack Are you there?

No he isn't

Do you know what

I'm bored

I wonder if I could rent a bot net and use it to take Canada offline

best of luck m8

Lstn m8 I fink u shud jus stfu ye

eat ma nob

Fuk that eat ur own cheesy nob

u no wat i dun care bout u nemore

Yows piss off back up our own end then ye before I tek u up da cut n drown ya

#yolo

#blamecanada

@Rory Oh, by the way, it's confirmed that I'm going to AppSec EU 2014. I've received a positive decision from the UK visa people.

@Adnan \o/

(I abuse "by the way" a lot, by the way)

Montreal massif yeah bringin it to ya hardstyle

@kalina wat

The Brits decided to let you in?

@RоryMcCune Oh man, I was sooo happy when I learned the news. After paying hundreds of euros and collecting tons of paper.

@Adnan I'm impressed by your persistence after all the nonsense they were asking you..

Don't wat at me or I'll hav ya

@kalina Yep

da brits luv me

The Brits hate me

o

The Canadians hate me too

@RоryMcCune Well, I had to be persistent. I had already paid for plane tickets and the AppSec ticket.

In fact... Everybody hates me

y u so emo

@RoryM I was way too deep to pull out

@kalina Yes, absolutely everybody. No exceptions.

Luckily, it all went well.

@kalina That makes no sense ... The Canadians should love you.

@Adnan ahh motivation!

@Simon I'm not emo, I could explain it all but it would involve revealing too much

@FEichinger no, there are arguments about execution of "their" language

@kalina ok

@Adnan too blatant

lulz php

@kalina But you, of all people, should have that down perfectly.

@FEichinger no

because you're making an assumption that you should know better than to make

I've been back in England for like 10 hours or whatever

and it's done nothing but rain

I think the actual country doesn't want me here, let alone the people in it

@kalina Ah, but that's perfectly normal.

it's unacceptable

it's supposed to be summer time

and I can't get my summer time on if it's not summer time

Summer is overrated.

@FEichinger and @kalina combination is overrated

ducks

Y SO MEAN

EVEN ADNAN IS NICER THAN YOU

cc @adnan

I'm sorry @FEichinger, but...

I've thought long and hard about it, and I've come to a conclusion

It's over, I'm sorry

I could never be with a PHP developer

lol

And that's how @kalina realized that @Adnan is the love of her life.

I was waiting for my daily mocking already. Thanks.

Who said I was mocking?

I've just been completely transparent and honest and you assume it's a joke?

unreal

No, that's actually precisely why I assume it's a joke. :P

you wound me

Awwww.

in the same way that a bullet to the face would wound me

Well, what with you being immortal and an alien angel and all, that would be "not at all".

much victim very wounded w0w

yep, I've decided

international superstar -> invent nanotechnology -> target men -> kill them all

Tsk.

-> adapt nanotechnology as a kickstarter to pregnancy so men are no longer required

@kalina you forgot get your brain uploaded in to a computer program and become a sadistic, sarcastic robotic arm

no I didn't

why would I want to be a robot arm?

Portal 2 reference

you're just being silly now

everybody knows that portals are impossible

killing all men with nanotechnology though

that's basically possible already

just need to invent nanotechnology

now you're thinking with nanotechnology

@kalina Have you ever thought that all this negativity towards men won't help you at all to actually meet a nice man?

bubble gum flavoured alcohol

@Simon nope, I've never had that thought

@Simon You need to think deeper than that

@kalina Eww.

@Kisunminttu That's the purpose of my 2nd brain.

@Simon Leave the gender roles at the door

I really enjoy having you here, @Kisunminttu

@Kisunminttu Is there a such thing as gender role?

@Simon this is an attempt at humour, right?

@kalina Even if I don't want to eradicate all of MENkind?

@Kisunminttu yep

menz

Such a lousy pun from me...

I don't really want to eradicate all of men, some of them are alright

denied

@Simon maybe, maybe not. Nice men sometimes agree that most men can be dicks

@AJHenderson I totally agree that a shitload of dudes are fucking assholes and just want to get laid.

@AJHenderson good guys who can be objective about the cause of the hatred unanimously agree that most men can be dicks

All men can be dicks.

and tbh, I find that those who agree are generally more tolerant of the hate

@FEichinger You're the living example.

@FEichinger fair point

A lot of them are dicks, but that's a wholly different story.

@FEichinger true but there is a difference between constantly leaving the toilet seat up and thinking that rape is the woman's fault

@kalina I was just being a pedant, dear.

IKNOWBECAUSETHAT'SPRETTYMUCHALLYOUEVERDO

@kalina they do also tend to be snapped up by girls fairly quickly though. Contrary to the saying that nice guys finish last, a lot of the nice guys I know get married relatively young

you being pedantic is like saying "I agree with everything you say but I need to say something that contradicts you at least once every now and again"

because they a) are mostly interested in finding a nice girl and b) aren't dicks most of the time, so the have fewer relationship problems

@kalina That's not true! I just often do that, because it's better than getting into messy arguments.

I find there are also two types of asshole guys as well

those that are genuinely assholes and those that were damaged by their last relationship

@kalina There's a gay joke in there somewhere, but I know better than to make it.

@kalina yes, that's a valid point, particularly since men are not the only ones subject to being assholes

@FEichinger you would know all about gay jokes, wouldn't you

they just tend to show it in different ways than women

@AJHenderson certainly not

@kalina TSK!

but this is why I'm not a feminist

I don't believe in equality and I don't think that it's a clear cut us vs them battle

@kalina I would say equality yes, but sameness no

and I think that the extremists at both ends of the spectrum are just basically counter balancing each other

men and women are different, but the strengths and weaknesses balance out on average

Well, CERT Austria just contacted me today to let me know about HeartBleed.

@AJHenderson I can't argue for equality because I don't want equality

it would be nice to get equal pay and it would be nice to get equal rights and remove the glass ceiling and all of that crap

but men and women are not equal

@AJHenderson I think a lot of this boils down to human nature. Same problem as economics basically: People generally always want more power than they have, so achieving true equality is essentially impossible anyway.

they're completely different

@FEichinger yeah, you can't achieve perfect equality, because some will think it is equal and some will always think it is out of balance

for me, equality is more of a mental state

And they were wrong anyway. The server isn't even vulnerable to HeartBleed.

it's a matter of personal valuation

I don't even see it as personal valuation

it's more about how society values you

if a true equality was enforced, women would lose quite a few things that we currently have

it gets even more complicated when you factor in the balancing side of things. I'm smarter than 99% of people out there, that's simply a fact of being lucky enough to be a genius, but that doesn't make me more valuable than another person. It means I may be more economically valuable, but other people bring value in other ways that I don't. I could be a dick and trumpet my own intelligence over other people, but instead I understand the value of others and that even someone 1/4 as intelligent

still may find my mistakes

because I have blindspots just like anyone else

like job security while taking months of paternity leave

@kalina And that, I feel, is an advantageous position for women.

or default custodial rights when splitting with a partner and children are involved

@Simon You people always find the right time to say stuff like that. Not while I'm eating, man. Not while I'm eating

@FEichinger not really

@kalina This, I find, is such bullshit.

society values women less than men in general

@Kisunminttu I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying it happens

there is far more to the equality argument than "remove the glass ceiling" and "pay us equally"

@kalina Should've been more clear - it happens and it is such bullshit. I agree with you.

:p

my main issue is less an issue of equality and more an issue of the way society passes the blame

because it's dangerous - maybe not "yet", but if it carries on the world will become more and more desensitised to violence towards women

and I think that's a scary place to be heading towards

@kalina Oh, yeh, that I agree on fully

Anybody knows which flag is that?

@Adnan Azerbaijan?

@Kisunminttu Hmm.. Google says you're right

I'm looking at the mobile pic

Thanks

That's so interesting.

I hope there will be more flags

@Kisu I think they put it there in retaliation for the FInnish flag I put

@kalina yeah, and that's what I mean when I talk about equality versus sameness. Some things make sense as being different because of actual differences in gender, where as other things do not. The point is that they need to be balanced as fairly as possible while still understanding the differences. That said, I don't think that means things like affirmative action, but I do think it means things like having stiffer penalties if a man physically assaults a woman than the other way around

since a man is generally going to be more physically capable of defending himself

it isn't always the case, but it generally is