The DMZ

Simon

14:00

troo

deed02392

If I was a journalist I'd have to write it like 'Bios'

Lighty

bout you would be clubbed to death here if you do that

deed02392

all right Rob Dougan

Simon

Yeah, silly Rob (who the fuck is that?)

deed02392

you should know @Simon

thought you had good music tastes

Lighty

14:02

Phill collins all the way

Simon

I'm currently listening to a 170 BPM track, I don't think many people would label this as good music taste.

Kisunminttu

I listen to Jem and the Holograms.

deed02392

Don't knock your own music tastes @Simon, you've already bashed your mom

Kisunminttu

And I need some elastic band, I'm making myself a skirt but not without that...

Simon

My poor mom

Lighty

14:04

thats what he said

Simon

@Kisunminttu Are you a turtle?

deed02392

are you saying you've not heard of Clubbed to Death by Rob Dougan

Kisunminttu

@Simon Nope!

Simon

@deed02392 Oh, every single sane human has heard this track.

Lighty

but we're insane, you stated that yourself 5 minutes ago

TAKE THAT

Simon

14:06

I never said my thoughts were coherent.

Lighty

pssh >:

deed02392

@Simon right

Adnan

@Kisunminttu You're making a skirt?

FEichinger

"skirt" is code for "buttnaked", @Adnan.

Lighty

did someone say naked?

pics or it didnt happen

Adnan

14:09

@FEichinger Oooh, thanks.

deed02392

This is still pissing me off

FEichinger

@Adnan Just figured I'd tell you in advance. I'm not ready for another such awkward conversation in here.

Adnan

@Lighty I'd send you some, but I don't know if @Kisunminttu would like that.

Lighty

sometimes, its better not to know everything

deed02392

anyone around here who is working as a pen tester?

Lighty

14:11

not really maybe yes... i used to flick them against people's heads and rate them for impact

Adnan

@deed02392 You have @RoryM, @Lucas, and on the entry-level, me.

deed02392

Does it ever get boring doing pen tests on office networks?

Lighty

it doesnt

well, the person i test them on does

deed02392

if so, and you're a security consultant, are there more interesting things to be doing in the industry under that role?

Lighty

but that is none of my concern

maybe

deed02392

14:12

@Adnan My dilemma has turned into a trilemma

FEichinger

@deed02392 Oh, hey, @Adnan's dilemma has also turned into a trilemma today!

deed02392

fuck

Adnan

@deed02392 So far (again, keep in mind, entry-level) I've never been bored. Each network is its own challenge, unique users with unique behaviour, and the same things you've done for one network cannot be applied on the other.

There are always new methods to learn

New exploit-writing techniques

deed02392

maybe it depends on the type of person

Lighty

and even worse coffee to taste

deed02392

14:14

basically I've heard from two people something along the lines of "once you've pen tested 100 networks you've done 1,000,000"

Adnan

@FEichinger Today? heh!

@deed02392 Pen-test 100 networks first before letting people put you down.

There are many areas you can go up into. Just ask @RoryA

He started doing dirty-work security, and now he manages and leads security teams.

deed02392

@Adnan they're not so much trying to put me down though, this is coming from my current company who are trying to keep me to join a new security team they're putting together

Terry Chia

@deed02392 There is the option of HR manager as well.

Adnan

Devise security plans

deed02392

and saying basically don't leave to be a consultant, it will be boring compared to the work if you stay here

Adnan

14:15

etc.

Lighty

or the guy that gets coffee for the whole team

thats my current position

Adnan

@Lighty Do you get to drink coffee?

Lighty

i prefer good tea

Adnan

Guess who also prefers tea!

Terry Chia

@deed02392 A researcher job looks very appealing if you are good.

Lighty

14:19

your 3rd sock puppet place?

Kisunminttu

@Adnan I would be, if I had elastic band. Or a zipper. I have buttons, but putting buttons on a skirt would be stupid right now.

Thomas Pornin

@deed02392 I work as a consultant. Work gets boring only if I allow it to be boring.

Kisunminttu

Come to think of it, a zipper is just as stupid.

Lighty

clothes are stupid

Simon

@ThomasPornin Do you need a PA? I don't mind to wear a dress.

Thomas Pornin

14:21

@Simon Either you don't know what a PA does, or you know way too much about what a PA actually does.

Simon

Rofl.

Adnan

@Kisunminttu @DavidFreitag youtube.com/watch?v=OZ2iileann4

deed02392

@TerryChia that's actually a possibility at one place I'm looking at

@ThomasPornin How do you control such a thing?

Terry Chia

So I just finished Breaking Bad.

I enjoyed the last 17 episodes, but the first three seasons were insanely boring.

Adnan

@TerryChia Congrats

Kisunminttu

14:29

@Adnan not bad, but not my cup of tea :/

Thomas Pornin

@deed02392 If work threatens to be boring, I creatively invent new ways to do it (or to avoid it).

Terry Chia

@ThomasPornin Like writing insanely good answers on Stackexchange?

Adnan

@TerryChia Since you like Game of Thrones youtube.com/watch?v=xasHY7yARDA

Simon

You know what else is insanely boring? My D.

Adnan

@Simon I don't know, man. Those things are getting kind of old

Simon

14:32

You're old.

Terry Chia

@Adnan Hahahaha!

Simon

@Lighty Help me out bud.

Lighty

your mom forbids me to help you out

Adnan

Let's try it on @Kisu

Hey, @Kisu, you make me harder than Valyrian steel.

5

Simon

looooooooooooooooooool

Terry Chia

14:34

I particularly enjoyed the "Hodor" one.

Lighty

@adnan you make me more moist then @Simon

3

Simon

wat

Lighty

its the hair

Simon

All I see is the flagrant grammatical error

Adnan

@TerryChia The last scene was pretty neat

Kisunminttu

14:35

@Adnan ;)

Simon

See, she digs it.

Lighty

your mom doesnt want us to dig

deed02392

They got a lot of numbers

Adnan

@deed02392 They always do. Plus, montage.

deed02392

I Winterfell in love with you

lolol

Lighty

14:37

but i charge delivery costs

deed02392

harder than Valyrian steel

Lighty

talking about hard things

shift is over in 20 minutes

Kisunminttu

@Adnan I fell for you harder than Lysa fell through the Moon Door

Lighty

who is Lysa? WHAT ARE YOU GUYS HIDING

Terry Chia

The next Game of Thrones episode will be very enjoyable.

Lighty

14:41

my head hurts

i need more tea, hugs, chocolate and more hugs

Adnan

@Lighty I can provide 3 of those.

Lighty

deal

Simon

@Lighty Are you into Hard Dance?

Lighty

im hard, but i cant dance

why?

Simon

Tsk, tsk. You're a fake Dutch.

Lighty

14:44

im not a fake dutch

seems someone here doesnt know how many different types of people we have

we have farmers, in the north

around amsterdam, we have the busy-people and fake-english-speaking people

in rotterdam we have people who like to use cancer in their sentences

braband is full of belgian-dutch hybrid (uber-morons)

and limburg is half-farmers and gay people

like me

<3

and there are enough stereotypes ive missed

but the list goes on and on and on....

Simon

All of this is irrelevant. I'm asking about your music taste.

Which is the most amazing thing about the Dutch.

Lighty

Phil collins, Eric Clapton, BB King, AC/DC, Rammstein, Metellica, Guns n Roses, Bn Jovi, Robbie williams, Buddy Guy, ZZ Top

those fit me

Kisunminttu

I just burned my mouth with tea :|

Lighty

kisses help cure pain ;)

Kisunminttu

@Adnan , can you kiss it better?

Simon

14:49

@Lighty No electronic?

Lighty

not really @Simon

FEichinger

I'll just be back in a few ... days. This is getting a tad too weird here.

Simon

@FEichinger I read "tat", thought you were getting cool.

Lighty

and pff, im a good kisser too D:.... atleast, thats what my mom says

Simon

wat

Kisunminttu

14:51

@Lighty cue cicadas

Lighty

no idea what that is

but im heading home now, a 30 minute cycle

try not to miss me too much

Kisunminttu

@Lighty Have a safe trip :)

Simon

@deed02392 Is this something you enjoy? : youtube.com/watch?v=LABdWIMfdAg

Rory Alsop

@Adnan even more worrying, I started doing PC maintenance, then sysadmin and network admin, then security configs and firewalls, and then the fun stuff like penetration testing

@Lighty I approve of all of them

Why don't we have music as a room topic?

Adnan

@RoryAlsop We should

Simon

14:56

@RoryAlsop I demand a new room topic labeled: "music" !

Rory Alsop

although of course, we have:

The Practice Room

General discussion for music.stackexchange.com

2

the music chat room

deed02392

@Simon definitely, although I was more into that when I was younger

Simon

Oh nice.

deed02392

these days I'm content with it just coming up on shuffle. it's more the anjunabeats kind of thing I actively listen to

Mat Zo, Arty

Rory Alsop

@Simon Nine Inch Nails last night were utterly awesome

by the way

llama incoming!

hello @Lucas

Terry Chia

15:00

@LucasKauffman You fail as a ninja if @RoryAlsop can see you coming.

Simon

@RoryAlsop Nice, was the ticket expensive?

Lucas Kauffman

Oh Hai there

@RoryAlsop How are you doing today?

@TerryChia Maybe my goal was not to be stealthy

deed02392

incorrect use of 'effect' in this official printed workbook

Lucas Kauffman

@TerryChia Maybe I just made your pants moist while you were distracted.

2

deed02392

pffff

Terry Chia

15:01

@LucasKauffman That's not very ninja-like of you. :)

deed02392

@Simon do you like SERL?

Lucas Kauffman

@TerryChia Or is it?

deed02392

sorry, S3RL

Simon

@deed02392 Don't know him/her/them.

deed02392

oh dude

sec

►

Simon

15:04

That sounds way more like Happy Hardcore than Hardcore.

The kick is way too weak to be Hardcore

It's not too bad but I wouldn't listen to that in loop

deed02392

I think this is just more like how it used to be

that's an old, old track

@Adnan you silver tongued devil

Terry Chia

Worrying signs that the girl will be a javascript programmer. "Sometimes, Daddy, 5 and 5 makes 55 and sometimes it makes 10."

Tweeted by beng on May 17, 2014 at 10:11 AM

deed02392

lmao

terry what's your twitter

Simon

lulz

Rory Alsop

@Simon £35 - really cheap. And at Scotland's premier venue!

deed02392

15:09

i'm gonna follow the shit out of you

Simon

@RoryAlsop Yeah that sounds very reasonable.

OH MY GOD IS THERE A PIC OF TERRY ON HIS TWITTER?

Rory Alsop

@LucasKauffman grand - thanks. Very tired though. Got home at 4 and had to get up at 6:30 for work

deed02392

@Simon their newer stuff: youtube.com/watch?v=meIjVDT-XMw

Lucas Kauffman

@RoryAlsop oooh, hard core

Terry Chia

@deed02392 It's private sorry. :(

@Simon No. I have blink's logo as my profile pic.

Rory Alsop

15:11

@LucasKauffman aye - but no drinking, as I was driving to and from the venue (no other sensible way home)

deed02392

@TerryChia and I'm not your friend? :'(

Terry Chia

@deed02392 I let almost nobody follow me sorry. :P

I only have 13 followers.

Simon

@deed02392 That's really different than the HC I listen to.

@TerryChia I can dig that.

deed02392

@TerryChia fair enough

@Simon how about this genre mixcloud.com/livesetsdjmixes/mat-zo-the-mix-017-19-05-2014

Terry Chia

Yay! I got the SSL handshake thing working. Now for the hard part.

deed02392

15:18

good stuff @TerryChia

are you doing this all on a public repo

Terry Chia

@deed02392 Will be once I get the command line tool done.

deed02392

good stuff

gimme a ping when you push it

Terry Chia

Probably another day or two depending on how many movies I watch in between.

Lucas Kauffman

@RoryAlsop how do you keep awake?

Lighty

i am back home

that means pants are no longe requiered

Simon

15:31

So kinky

@deed02392 More or less. I'm mostly into harder tracks unless it's deadmau5.

David Freitag

@TerryChia Ok, i should rephrase. I have heard Mountain Lion is an absolute RAM whore.

Terry Chia

@DavidFreitag Ah probably. I skipped that and went straight from Snow Leopard to Mavericks.

Simon

@DavidFreitag ilesoniq.com

Kisunminttu

Hey @Simon , have you listened to The Glitch Mob?

David Freitag

@Simon Oooooh. Now that's what I'm talking about.

Simon

15:38

@Kisunminttu Heard of him/her/'em, never really checked him/her/'em out.

David Freitag

@Simon The Glitch Mob is pretty bawler. They remixed the Tron soundtrack and it's pretty awesome.

Kisunminttu

@Simon My personal favorites are from their album Drink the Sea: Animus Vox and Drive It Like You Stole It

@DavidFreitag Couldn't agree more. They did a fantastic job on it.

Simon

I'll check out those in a few.

David Freitag

@Kisunminttu Hehehehe. I used to blast drive it like you stole it in my last car. (Because it was a piece of shit)

@Simon Be warned though, it's extremely chill.

Kisunminttu

@DavidFreitag : D

Simon

15:43

@DavidFreitag I like some slow tracks, like this one by Noisecontrollers: play.google.com/music/listen?view=/track/…

Select the one that says Down Version

David Freitag

@Simon Yeah i have that album in my ever expanding library

Simon

It's reeeeeally good.

I also listened to Wasted Penguinz's album Wistfulness for the first time, no idea why I didn't listen to it sooner.

Very melodic as expected.

David Freitag

@Simon So are you guys planning on going to ilesoniq?

deed02392

@Simon Only just found that mix today but loved every minute of it pretty much

Simon

@DavidFreitag I know my gf and her friends are going so I guess I'll go too even though it's not my favorite style of music.

David Freitag

15:48

@Simon Yeah WTB hardstyle plox.

Simon

Montreal isn't a Hard Dance city unfortunately =\

David Freitag

Well, Montreal is nearly a four hour trip for me, so that is probably a good thing..

Simon

@DavidFreitag Did you see this: mysteryland.us/en

David Freitag

@Simon I have now

Rory Alsop

@Lucas - caffeine and youthful enthusiasm

Simon

15:51

There might be a HS rave in Québec city but that's about 3 hours away from Mtl (North-East)

There's a Q-dance stage @ ML USA so that's gonna be neat.

I saw it too late so I couldn't plan anything.

David Freitag

@Simon Duuuuuuude NY?! Thats SO CLOSE

Simon

It's even close to me so yeahhhh

David Freitag

Still 2:47 trip for me though, heh

Simon

Worth it

AJ Henderson

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Q: what are security flaws on providing access to users through a unlisted/private/token/signed URL?

Some web applications enable registered users to grant temporal application access to un-registered users sending token/private/unlisted/signed URLs (I ignore the exact terminology for this), which are then used to submit sensitive/confidential user information. The reason for using such mechanis...

is it just me or is he really confused

David Freitag

15:55

@Simon Let me know if you plan on hitting up Mysteryland US. I would totally tag along.

Mostly because that means i don't have to get a passport.

Simon

@DavidFreitag Not gonna happen this year. Possibly next year unless I plan a trip in Europe or Australia to hit Defqon

@Kisunminttu Animus Vox is golden

Kisunminttu

@Simon Glad you like it :)

David Freitag

@Simon It's really too bad that I'm to much of a pansy to go it alone.

Simon

@DavidFreitag I know the feeling, never had the balls to go to a show by myself.

David Freitag

Is there a way to find what playlists a video is a part of on youtube?

Simon

16:04

Not that I'm aware of.

David Freitag

YUS. I found it.

►

Simon

Oh boy, that's out of my scope.

David Freitag

Yes, that'll melt your face off.

Rory Alsop

16:54

@DavidFreitag nice!

David Freitag

@RoryAlsop That playlist is just great.

Adnan

@DavidFreitag Awesome!

David Freitag

Unfortunately they have changed this playlist since i last listened... And the changes aren't good :|

Adnan

@Kisu Looks like we're finally gonna have a new bed tomorrow.

David Freitag

►

Kisunminttu

17:03

@Adnan Oooh! I'm excited! :3

Adnan

@DavidFreitag Countless Skies is on my top 50 list.

@Kisunminttu Let's hope this one is better than the last three.

David Freitag

@Adnan I listen to waaaay to much music to have a top anything list.

Kisunminttu

@Adnan Hehehehe

Lighty

god damnit

i was removing my 2TB game HDD from my usb 3.0 external husk

and put it in my PC

and from all the fckin folder

and all the programs

the folder steam

gets corrupted..

not amused

David Freitag

Try running chkdsk

It has a somewhat limited ability to fix file corruption.

Lighty

17:06

its already running, but thanks for the help anyways

i threw holy water at it

well, it was coke

but it counts as holy water for me

Kisunminttu

@Adnan I'm trying to do troubleshooting with my sewing machine. I would probably be wearing a skirt I made by now if it wasn't for the problem with this thing. >:(

David Freitag

@Lighty Yes, cocaine always gets my hard drives ticking away as well. Cheers

Lighty

...

the folder dissapeared

but all the space is still in use..

David Freitag

NTFS uses B+ trees, so depending on how far down the tree the corruption is, you should still be able to save a lot of stuff.

Lighty

im gonna backup the essential stuff

now i can spend the coming month re-installing all my games

1.8TB worth of it

but seriously, how can a drive get corrupted if i take it out of an external drive cas, and mount it in my PC

David Freitag

17:13

If it wasn't powered down properly

Lighty

it wasnt even connected to my PC while i powered it off...

David Freitag

For example, there is probably a buffer in the USB 3.0 enclosure that is converting the stream of data from USB protocol to SATA 2.0. In doing so, it holds a small amount of data between when you send it and when the HDD receives it.

Lighty

well, the reason why i put it in my PC was because i thought my usb 3.0 card from china fried

FEichinger

@DavidFreitag And even if it was, it might be a headcrash.

David Freitag

If you power the drive down before all this data is transmitted to the HDD, boom corruption.

Lighty

17:15

and ofcourse its only the steam folder...

FEichinger

We had a bunch of disks fail over time, simply because the head didn't retract as it powered down.

David Freitag

@Lighty I would run a SMART check on the drive to see if it is failing somehow.

If all else fails, try running Recuva on the drive (this might take hours for a 2TB...). That will check for file signatures that may have been bumped off the HDD's file table. Restoring older versions of the files that are corrupted might fix your issue.

Terry Chia

Came across this: securityoverboard.com

Lighty

typical Bootstrap CSS site @TerryChia

and thanks for the tip David, lookig into it now

Terry Chia

@Lighty I'm not exactly talking about the CSS here.....

David Freitag

17:19

Recuva should be a last ditch effort before nuking and rebuilding.

Lighty

i know, jsut something funny i saw

David Freitag

I would start by firing up your favorite Linux live CD and running a SMART test, or trying your luck with Windows diagnostics. If there aren't and red flags there try to chkdisk it. Sadly I don't know of any Linux-based NTFS corruption utilities..

Lighty

17:32

hm, im going to nuke it :/

hm, if i just "format" it, is that good enough?

David Freitag

17:47

Yes, that will bump the file table and it will appear that the drive is "empty"

However, you could still run recuva and recover some of the files that you nuked.

Lighty

possible, im starting to rebuild it soon

already got some donwloads running, gonna shower, and try not to flip tables, since that was alot of data xD

Iszi

Does anyone know this one?

0

Q: Remote Registry with alternate credentials from the command line

Sometimes, when I'm teleworking from my personal laptop, I run into problems with my SmartCard reader while trying to connect to systems that are configured to enforce SmartCard usage. The usual workaround, whenever I have elevated privileges on the target system, is to connect to the Remote Regi...

batch windows-registry powershell remote

schroeder

there are libaries for that kind of thing in PS

Adnan

18:02

@DavidFreitag Wow

►

schroeder

@Iszi Can you trigger the PS script remotely, instead of conencting remotely?

Iszi

@schroeder I'd need access to PS Remoting to do that.

David Freitag

@Adnan I don't want to live on this earth any more.

schroeder

@Iszi Not what I'm thinking - don't remote in WITH PS, but trigger the local PS script from external

@Iszi I've done with batch files, for instance

David Freitag

@Adnan also, that cannot possibly be real.

Rоry McCune

18:07

@Iszi what about runas /netonly to launch the powershell

I've no idea if that would work to launch powershell but it works for things like SQL server managment studio :)

Iszi

@RоryMcCune I'm not familiar with /netonly and it doesn't show up under /?.

Rоry McCune

@Iszi means that as far as the local machine is concerned you're the local user but if you make connections over the network is runs as the runas user... let me dig you out a link ...

Iszi

Oh, wait. It's there. I was just missing it. Could be interesting.

Rоry McCune

@Iszi interesting writing style but the info is good pseale.com/blog/2011/02/02/…

Iszi

So, I'd just use runas /netonly to run the reg command?

David Freitag

18:11

►

That one is even better. Huehuehue.

Rоry McCune

@Iszi can you specify the target host with the reg command ?

Iszi

@RоryMcCune Yeah, you just start the registry path with the hostname.

Rоry McCune

@Iszi so in that case yeah that might work

probably worth a shot (on a non-important machine with a safe query :) )

Adnan

@DavidFreitag Amazing!

David Freitag

@Adnan If he gets elected I'm going to shoot myself in the face.

Adnan

18:18

@DavidFreitag Highly unlikely

Iszi

@RоryMcCune Holy shit, it worked. First time.

Rоry McCune

@Iszi \o/

Iszi

Now to try actually setting the variable.

David Freitag

@Adnan You might think so, but he may have the sentiment of a public that is sick of the same old politics. Then again most of his biker pals probably won't even be able to vote

Iszi

18:33

@RоryMcCune You gonna throw that up as an answer?

@DavidFreitag No, I think he's implying you don't have the balls to follow through.

David Freitag

@Iszi Well, i didn't say what i would be shooting myself with.

Rоry McCune

@Iszi done :)

Iszi

19:06

@RоryMcCune Upvoted & accepted. Thanks!

Xander

20:17

-2

Q: Realism in modern tv shows

When watching tv shows I sometimes see someone decrypting encrypted files in a short time (maybe some hours or even less), even though its said that that the used encryption is cryptographic strong. In some movies we also see some characters which change very fast while, time after time, one char...

encryption brute-force government

Where's the "Not a Real Question" close reason when you need it?

schroeder

lol

@Xander heh - self-delete

TildalWave

20:46

@Xander it's obviously all real, so "unclear what you're asking" might apply :)

Xander

@TildalWave LOL. I ended up settling on "Off topic, not in scope blah, blah" which was perfectly adequate, in all honesty.

TildalWave

isn't there a SE site for that, like Sci-Fi & Fantasy or TV & Movies?

so can 10k members see deleted questions or just deleted answers?

Jeff Ferland

@TildalWave I think it's both

Yeah, 'cause they can vote to undelete

TildalWave

@JeffFerland ah yes, democracy :)

this search security.stackexchange.com/search?q=is%3Aquestion+deleted%3A1 must be quite a fascinating read for 10k users then

Jeff Ferland

21:02

@TildalWave nice. yup. :)

David Freitag

21:19

Hahaha. codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/28279/…

AviD

21:48

@DavidFreitag I know this is a late response, but I just wanted to agree with this. And, unless you are programming for OSX or iOS, it is almost always the case.

David Freitag

@AviD And i would pretty much rather do anything other than write Objective-C.

AviD

actually, sometimes there is another legit reason - you go to work for a hipster startup, where MBP is standard issue.

then again, hipster startups.

David Freitag

@AviD Yeah, but with clever use of X, Ubuntu can look remarkably similar to OS X.

Like I said, i have no issues with MBP hardware. In fact I almost prefer it to other laptops.

AviD

oh I agree, it is nice hardware. Still not sure its worth the premium, but it is nice. Its the OS I find extraneous.

David Freitag

There aren't many really nice aluminum body laptops that are cheap. There's the one i linked, the Razrblade, and MBP (that i can think of...) and they are all decked out (relatively...) and all are in the ballpark of $2k

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