The DMZ

TildalWave

08:00

@Adnan that's what you said?

Adnan

@Iszi I think he's in the category of what's called "Militant atheists". Never liked those. They make us look bad.

kalina

morning

Adnan

@kalina Morning, love.

@TildalWave That's what I said, indeed.

Iszi

@Adnan Us who, the militants or the atheists?

AviD

@Iszi hehe

@Adnan Is that like "99% of lawyers make the rest look bad"?

TildalWave

08:02

@Adnan Man, seriously, you should just take a new selfie that one is pretty low quality so it'd be hard to work on for a realistic looking fake.

kalina

"love"

Adnan

@AviD Actually, I don't think so.

@TildalWave True true. That'll be a few more months. Will ping you then :D

tylerl

@kalina do you think he's more sexy in a beard and sheepdog hairdo?

kalina

I wouldn't use the word "sexy" and "Adnan" in the same sentence unless "sexy" was prefixed with "is the furthest thing from"

in Ask Ubuntu General Room, 3 mins ago, by xiaodongjie

@kalina you are very beautiful!!!

this guy seems to think my avatar is a photo

AviD

@kalina That's still not proof.

kalina

08:12

...

Adnan

@kalina Wait! Isn't it?

kalina

@AviD The wonderful thing about tiggers is that they're covered in fur and burn easily.

AviD

heehee

Adnan

I've always thought you're actually a blond angel.

tylerl

@kalina fur doesn't burn, it melts. Who doesn't know that?

Adnan

08:14

@kalina That's the main reason I don't like you. Because of the blond thing.

My life.. was a lie.

kalina

@Adnan I'm not blonde.

I am an angel though

Adnan

I might as well be adopted

kalina

you are adopted

you think your real parents would want to keep you?

AviD

@tylerl but the real question is, WILL IT BLEND?

Adnan

@kalina My real parents are the ones who took me in. For all I care, my real parents did indeed keep me.

AviD

08:16

@kalina he was almost adopted, but noone wanted him.

Adnan

@kalina I've already established you're of south-east Asian descend. You're very likely not blonde.

kalina

@Adnan south east asian?

interesting

Adnan

@kalina Not that interesting really.

kalina

it's pretty interesting to me

AviD

cmon you guys, just get a room.

kalina

08:17

A serious place where infosec is discussed PS we don't do hard...

3

AviD

heh, dammit!

Adnan

@kalina Could be more leaning to the west, though. So, to be safe, I'll say south Asia.

tylerl

@Adnan I picked up on black hair and short. But I didn't get asian.

Terry Chia

@Adnan That's racist.

Adnan

@TerryChia Ummm.. what?

Terry Chia

08:19

@Adnan Isn't that the obligatory thing to say? ;)

tylerl

Hello @Terry

Terry Chia

@tylerl Hello.

Adnan

@TerryChia So you're the one who starred the Adnan-bashing messages.

Terry Chia

@Adnan Oh no, it wasn't @Adnan specific.

tylerl

Something I've been meaning to mention while both of you are here at the same time: @TerryChia and @kalina -- your avatars are roughly the same shape and color. Surprisingly difficult to differentiate at 16 pixels

Terry Chia

08:21

Also, I have no idea what's going on. I just came in here.

Adnan

@TerryChia aaaand... me too.

kalina

@tylerl all avatars are square

Terry Chia

@tylerl Wut? Mine is a gravatar with a ear wearing a christmas hat. @kalina is a devil.

(I refuse to call @kalina an angel.)

AviD

@TerryChia eeewww

kalina

@TerryChia a... well, devil is still acceptable

tylerl

08:22

@kalina not all are full-color to the margins. in fact, most are white at the borders.

including your previous one

Adnan

49 secs ago, by Adnan

@TerryChia aaaand... me too.

Terry Chia

@AviD TWSS

AviD

@Adnan ambiguous.

kalina

@tylerl they're not even remotely the same colour either

Terry Chia

I conclude @tylerl is color blind.

kalina

08:23

all men see in 16 colours

Adnan

@kalina all heterosexual men*

AviD

> I went to the pub the other day. They played "Do the twist", so I twisted. They played "Jump", so I jumped. They played "Come on Eileen" - and I got kicked out.

kalina

@Adnan acceptable, and correct

@AviD old

2

AviD

@kalina youre young

Terry Chia

@kalina Not much of an insult in here next to @RoryA.

kalina

08:24

act your age, not your IQ

oh, that only works with simon

nevermind

AviD

@kalina oh snap

if I was acting as if I was as old as my IQ, I'd be @RoryAlsop.

kalina

@AviD more like Simon

Adnan

@Tildal You have my email, right? Send me a shipping address for the beer.

@AviD Same to you.

kalina

today is going to be a rough day

AviD

@Adnan hmm?

kalina

08:27

do you know how I know?

I'm eating crisps for breakfast

@AviD it's a trap

Adnan

@AviD Read the message just above it.

AviD

ah, the beer? I thought we decided it wasnt worth it.

Adnan

@TerryChia You have my email?

AviD

stupid israeli customs and shipping costs.

tylerl

@kalina wtf?

Terry Chia

08:28

@Adnan Hmm? Yeah what @AviD said.

kalina

@tylerl I know

Terry Chia

Didn't it cost something like $100 to ship beer here?

AviD

but if I ever make it to Finland, I will hold you to it.

kalina

@AviD what?

You'll hold him to what?

Adnan

@TerryChia @AviD Shipping costs are irrelevant.

kalina

08:29

Will you be making out with him while holding him to it?

AviD

@kalina lol

kalina

WAIT A MINUTE

I don't want to know the answers

AviD

@kalina yes, yes you do. You sick, sick devilwoman.

Rоry McCune

Morning all, I can see that the DMZ is having one of it's .... odd mornnings

Adnan

@TerryChia @AviD So, you're absolutely sure you don't want them? Like I said, shipping isn't an issue anymore. Also, the value is very likely below customs threshold.

AviD

08:30

@RоryMcCune "normal". you mean "normal".

kalina

@RоryMcCune the DMZ is odd without me taking part, I'm just being odd in the opposite direction

thus making it normal

AviD

@Adnan oh, surely I do. I just think its silly to ship it.

Rоry McCune

@AviD possibly

kalina

at least this isn't the game development room

Rоry McCune

@kalina I'm not sure it cancels out, seems more additive than anything

AviD

08:31

Probably easier to find a local place to buy remotely.

Terry Chia

@Adnan Thanks for the thought, but it really isn't worth it. :) I'll look you up if I am ever in Finland though.

kalina

I can't be bothered with in depth discussions about vertex shaders at 8am

@RоryMcCune well, maybe

Adnan

Alright. Suit yourselves. I'm going today to ship to Rorys.

Rоry McCune

@kalina surely that room shut down in disgust when flappy bird made the top of the charts...

AviD

@RоryMcCune multiplicative, if its in opposite directions.

tylerl

08:31

@Adnan "Suite"?

kalina

@RоryMcCune nope

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune Flappy birds is a work of genius.

Adnan

@tylerl Fixed. Thanks.

Terry Chia

Also, twitchplayspokemon.

Rоry McCune

@TerryChia hmm

AviD

08:32

@Adnan out of curiousity, what beer are you / would you have been shipping?

Rоry McCune

@kalina so instead they're mixing up 8 bit graphics with old Nintendo assets and hoping to make their millions?

kalina

@Adnan "dear customs, be advised that some terrorist from Scandinavia is shipping liquids to build binary bombs disguised as beer to a terrorist cell in Scotland."

Adnan

@kalina Finland isn't Scandinavian.

kalina

@RоryMcCune actually I haven't been paying much attention

I look in there first thing in the morning

and then look away again

AviD

@Adnan hmm? Of course it is.

Adnan

08:34

@AviD It's Nordic, not Scandinavian.

Long story.

kalina

I'm sorry, I just facedesk'd hard enough to knock myself out

@Adnan Wikipedia says you're wrong

AviD

Scandinavia

Scandinavia is a historical and cultural-linguistic region in Northern Europe characterized by a common ethno-cultural Germanic heritage and related languages, which includes the three kingdoms of Denmark, Norway, and Sweden. Modern Norway and Sweden proper and also northern parts of Finland are situated on the Scandinavian Peninsula, whereas modern Denmark is situated on the Danish islands and Jutland. The term Scandinavia is usually used as a cultural term, but in English usage, it is occasionally confused with the purely geographical term Scandinavian Peninsula, which took its name fro...

Terry Chia

@kalina Do it again.

AviD

huh. @Adnan is right, for some values.

kalina

inb4 @AviD

AviD

08:35

@kalina except, opposite.

Adnan

Nordic countries

}} |image_map = Scandinavian States.svg |map_caption = | }} |admin_center_type = Capitals |admin_center = |membership = |5 countries | | | | | |3 territories | | | }} |languages_type = Languages |languages = |area_magnitude = |area_km2 = 3501721 |percent_water = |population_estimate = 25,650,540 |population_estimate_year = 2012 |population_census = 25,478,559 |population_census_year = 2000 |population_density_km2 = 7.24 |population_density_sq_mi = |GDP_PPP = $1,049,8564136 million |GDP_PPP_year = 2011 |GDP_PPP_per_capita = $41,205 |GDP_nominal = $1,621,658 million |GDP_nominal_...

Thank you, Chat.SE.

AviD

> which includes the three kingdoms of Denmark, Norway, and Sweden.

kalina

> the term Scandinavia is also taken to include Iceland, the Faroe Islands, and Finland

AviD

> Modern Norway and Sweden proper[b] and also northern parts of Finland are situated on the Scandinavian Peninsula

> Such usage, however, may be considered inaccurate in the area itself, where the term Nordic countries instead refers to this broader group.

tylerl

Except that Adnan is Syrian.

which is neither.

Adnan

08:36

@tylerl I am?

kalina

@AviD "in the area itself", Finland is hardly a highly populated country, I can disagree with all of them on a first name basis

tylerl

So says you.

AviD

@kalina hahaha

Adnan

@tylerl Oh, in that case, yes I am.

kalina

The population of Finland is low enough that they could distribute news via chinese whispers without much deviation in the message

AviD

08:37

did anyone ever notice how much the Scandinavian Peninsula looks like male genitalia?

I guess thats where they got the word "peninsula" from.

tylerl

@kalina trying to picture Finland hiring a fleet of Chinese to whisper the news.

kalina

13 mins ago, by kalina

act your age, not your IQ

@tylerl -.-

AviD

kalina

@AviD I'm aware of what it looks like...

tylerl

@AviD as far as junk is concerned, that's got some... diseases.

AviD

08:39

@kalina perhaps you're not aware of what I'm comparing it to.

tylerl

don't worry honey. it always does that.

Adnan

@kalina Just like you were aware if what it actually is.

kalina

@AviD ...

Adnan

@AviD She doesn't watch porn, and she's very likely a virgin. So, yes, you might be right.

AviD

@tylerl heh. In this room, its about average.

kalina

08:39

@Adnan we've already had this discussion

@Adnan wow

AviD

@Adnan hoooookaaaay. Time to change the subject here.

NOW.

kalina

if you can get laid you have no right to call anybody a virgin

AviD

by moderator fiat.

kalina

I mean, have you looked in the mirror?

AviD

Hey, anybody ever drive a Fiat? Crazy car, amirite?

Adnan

08:40

@AviD Male virgin = okay to talk about. Female virgin = Lord of the skies have his wrath upon us.

tylerl

@AviD Yes.

kalina

@AviD basically a Ferrari

AviD

@kalina wait, what?

kalina

@AviD Fiat own Ferrari

AviD

I think the supply of Fiats in Israel is sorely lacking, here they are a completley crap car.

@kalina ahh okay

kalina

08:41

@Adnan no he was just pre-empting the discussion that would have happened

he didn't need you in tears again, is all

TildalWave

@Adnan Oh c'mon you'd send beer to where it's 2 eur half a litre in the city center pubs from where it's prolly 10 eur in the shops? Seriously tho, that shot is pretty bad quality, so if you have any better ones that wouldn't require a complete reconstruction that'd be cool. info at mynickname dot com if you have any ;)

kalina

Today I gained a new email address to spam

TildalWave

but when I'll be at my comp, so towards the evening

before that tho ... let's have some more fun :)

2

Adnan

@TildalWave It's safe conclude that I just have a gigantic head.

kalina

@TildalWave such a large head

TildalWave

08:43

it looks fake even in B&W

AviD

@TildalWave that is clearly fake. @Adnan doesnt know how to read.

then again, maybe he's just lookin at da pikchures.

Adnan

@AviD I'm not reading. I'm pretending that I'm reading.

TildalWave

I can only resize layers by these steps in the editor I have here ... it's crap

Adnan

@TildalWave Also, is that the American flag in the background? (top left corner)

TildalWave

yup :))

Adnan

08:45

It should be Syrian (the pre-civil-war one) or Finnish.

kalina

I still can't get over how enormous your head is in that picture

TildalWave

it's easy to crop it out but please for gowd's sake don't use this one for anything half serious

kalina

I am unable to see the rest of the picture

Adnan

@kalina I agree.

TildalWave

it looks a bit Monty Python-esque

should make an animated gif

AviD

08:49

So, after spending all day yesterday at a client, I come here to find a dozen messages waiting for me. Great.

Also, I am reminded why I chose not to work at clients on a regular basis, or for that matter take a "regular" fulltime job in a company.

kalina

I avoid communicating with customers as much as possible

Terry Chia

@kalina Thank god or they would all be on fire.

kalina

I do not have the filter that stops me from laughing at them and calling them idiots

I would make a terrible sales person

AviD

@kalina believe me, it is difficult. I come home exhausted just from exercising the filter all day.

And it is getting even more difficult....

kalina

@AviD twss

dammit

AviD

08:53

ha. inb4

now you look foolish.

kalina

hardly, edit history is still there

I don't even like The Office

I tried watching it, it was just painful

AviD

@kalina yes, but very realisitic. Thats whats so painful.

kalina

"Realistic" ?

we must have been watching a different show

AviD

or worked in different offices.

Rory Alsop

The original Office (the UK one) is realistic for me. I don't get the US one at all

oh - and Morning!

TildalWave

08:57

good morning

AviD

ah right, I was talking about the US one. I've practically worked with most of those people.

Rory Alsop

@Adnan - I haven't had a chance to properly go through that - but I have had an evening meeting cancelled for today so I'm getting 3 hours back. Will do it then

@AviD - I assumed it was probably appropriate for US companies, but I just haven't had that exposure

AviD

thats one thing missing from The Office - not enough useless meetings.

Rory Alsop

hahahaha

AviD

I spent 2 hours in a meeting yesterday, about an audit I "did" about 6 month ago. Barely even remember it.... but I spent less time on the audit, than in the meeting.

TildalWave

09:00

@Rory you're still on tour?

Rory Alsop

@kalina - did you find out what was causing the SQL problem? I saw a mention that it was just a'fixed itself'- but did you get to the bottom of it

AviD

the audit consisted of a couple of interviews with the programmer / PM / product vendor. I wrote my findings directly on what they told me. And they still argued.

kalina

@RoryAlsop nope, I tell you what I did do with the problem though, I closed it as "resolved"

Rory Alsop

@Tildal - naw. Now documentary footage is in edit, and we're getting queries from someone creating a wikipedia page about us

kalina

and then I spent the rest of the day of Stack Exchange

Rory Alsop

09:01

@AviD - ahh, yes, that kind of customer

kalina

justifying it as "further investigation"

TildalWave

@RoryAlsop heh cool, that's some serious fanbase then

Adnan

@RoryAlsop Absolutely no problem. It's not urgent, take your time.

tylerl

09:16

Could be better if I spent any actual time on it --

crappy color matching, but I'm on my way to bed.

aw well.

night

AviD

no no no no NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!

kalina

OH MY GOD MY EYES

Rory Alsop

aaaaahhhh - @adnan

AviD

@RoryAlsop that is NOT a reaction I would expect.

Adnan

@tylerl Jesus fucking Christ!

NO!

AviD

09:22

@Adnan you should put that on your online dating profile.

Rory Alsop

hahahahahaha - not right. just not right

Adnan

Well, that's not really far from the reality. +20% bodyfat, of course.

and about 20 cm shorter

and a much paler skin tone

Rory Alsop

@tylerl - after much review I have deleted that gibson pic you did. Personally I think it is very funny, but his fan base are fairly militant and it is at the dodgy end of acceptable...

AviD

@RoryAlsop yeah I was of two minds on that. Upvoted, but agree with the deletion.

though it does bring to mind the latest XKCD....

Adnan

Damn it, @tylerl. Now I feel bad about the cookies I ate this morning.

AviD

09:25

@Adnan why? Didja steal them from a child?

Adnan

@AviD No. I took @kalina's advice and looked in a mirror. I realized I need to lose 4-5 kg.

I also realized I need to shave. A 3-cm beard isn't alright.

> Is it possible to hack my encrypted session such SSL/TLS and hijack (duplicate) the session by electromagnetic waves?

AviD

this is cool:

►

> The Rijksmuseum museum in Holland had an idea: Let's bring the art to the people and then, hopefully, they will come to see more - at the museum. They took one Rembrandt painting from 1642, Night Watch and brought to life the characters in it, placed them in a busy mall and the rest you can see for yourself!

Adnan

@AviD Thank you for reminding me that nothing exciting happens in this part of the world.

AviD

haha

AviD

10:26

So now I'm drinking java with my Java.

and not just generic coffee, this is the original - Indonesian Java. yummo.

Though actually I'm drinking my java with C#. This feels wrong.

HOLEEEE FRAAAK. WhatsApp being sold to Facebook for 19 billion USD. That's $19,000,000,000. Thass a lotta zeroes.

especially for an essentially worthless company, who only boasts that they have 450M users with their nullapp.

Hmm, wait....

Adnan

10:42

@kalina The virgin comment was out of line. I took the conversation from friendly joking to something borderline offensive, if not offensive. Apologies.

AviD

+1

it takes a big man to come forward and say that.

Maybe you need to lose more than just 3-4 kg... ;-)

I'm sorry, I'm still shaken by this news. It completely devalues real companies, and actual innovations being done in the industry.

Seriously, WTF is the world coming to?

it's like the story with isntagram, just more so.

Adnan

@AviD Who am I kidding?! I'm at least 8 kg above my goal bodyfat.

AviD

@Adnan that's cool, the ladies love a little extra flesh to squeeze.

okay, now I have to go wash my brain out with boiling acid.

kalina

11:03

@Adnan yes you did

I'm not offended in the slightest, I responded by telling you to re-evaluate your life

if you're not offended, then there is no problem

if you are offended, well, it's your fault, you started it

@AviD 450 million users and their mobile phone numbers and mobile network details.

Facebook is buying 450 million phone numbers and associated advertising data

nothing more

AviD

@kalina hmm. Fair enough, though I still fail to see how that justifies it.

unless FB is just a proxy for the NSA / FBI in this instance.

kalina

@AviD they're not actually paying that much

most of it is merely a transfer of stock

AviD

s/in this instance/as always/

Adnan

@kalina :|

@AviD Can't blame me. I tried.

AviD

@kalina still a form of payment.

kalina

11:06

@Adnan oh, you wanted an apology?

Adnan

@kalina Not at all.

Rоry McCune

@kalina well the theoretical possibility of $450 million/year revenue too

Adnan

@Kalina Why would I want one? I was the one who wronged you.

kalina

@Adnan oh, it's just your "oh well, I tried" comment

Adnan

@kalina That was about your idiotic response to my apology.

Rоry McCune

11:08

@AviD the justification appears to be stopping the competition, same as instagram. The News.YC thread had some interesting points about people making a lot of use of Whatsapp for things like running a business, so for those users it could be quite valuable..

kalina

@Adnan my response wasn't idiotic

it was blunt and straight to the point

Adnan

@kalina Keep telling that to yourself.

kalina

I don't feel compelled to apologise for the comments I made resulting from you crossing the line

AviD

@RоryMcCune oh please. which competition, SMS or email?

Adnan

@kalina and I said I didn't feel I need (nor I wanted) an apology.

@kalina Stop dancing around that point. You don't have it.

kalina

11:09

@Adnan so why is there still an obvious problem?

Rоry McCune

@AviD no, facebook sees whatsapp as competition to them as a lightweight social network, so they bought them

AviD

and that $450M per year is gonna go away fast - most users that like it is because "its free!" (unlike email)...

Adnan

@kalina No problem on my side.

kalina

@Adnan good, so there's no problem

now let's get back to laughing at Facebook for buying whatsapp

AviD

@kalina @Adnan kids kids kids! quiet down, both of you be nice or I'll send you both to your room!

Different rooms.

Rоry McCune

11:10

@AviD if you buy facebook as being worth 173 billion, the idea of paying ~10% to buy your main competition doesn't sound too crazy

AviD

@RоryMcCune I DON'T.

kalina

@RоryMcCune lol 173 billion

Rоry McCune

of course the idea of a website being worth 173 billion is more than a little crazy itself

kalina

what a joke

Rоry McCune

@AviD yeah but the market does and as they're the ones with the money :)

AviD

11:11

@RоryMcCune but even so, whatsapp is not 10% of facebook, its a friggin messenger app.

Rоry McCune

@AviD well facebook was obviously worried enough to see it as a necessary step...

AviD

@RоryMcCune well, exactly, thats also what I meant about devaluing real companies with actual value.

Adnan

Wait, what?! Facebook is buying Whatsapp?

Why?

Rоry McCune

@AviD hey the idea that whatsapp = Nvidia + AMD is crazy sauce

kalina

I suppose it makes sense that Facebook would try and stop the domino effect from starting

Rоry McCune

11:12

but that's the market values

Adnan

Shutting down a competitor?

AviD

@RоryMcCune more.

@RоryMcCune check this: linkedin.com/today/post/article/…

Rоry McCune

@AviD yeah I looked at tech co's for similar values and those were the first two that took it to the right region and made the point of how weird it is...

but hell by the markets value facebook is worth more than intel!!!!

AviD

@RоryMcCune just shows you how incredibly stoooopid the market is.

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune The stock market doesn't make sense. Enough said.

AviD

11:13

well what do we expect, the market IS driven by people.

Rоry McCune

@TerryChia @AviD yeah it's super weird, and I think a bubble, but there ya go...

Terry Chia

Apple announces year on year improvements in sales and huge profit margins? stocks drop. Amazon hasn't made a friggin profit in 10 years? Stocks keep rising.

Whatsapp being sold for more than Nokia? Insane.

AviD

WhatsApp is worth 50% more than American Airlines, 30% more than Harely-Davidson, 25% more than Marriot, and the same as the Gap.

@RоryMcCune oh definitely a bubble.

Adnan

This is an interesting read investor.fb.com/…

Terry Chia

Nest - a company I have literally never heard of before Google acquired it? 3.2 billion.

Adnan

11:17

> [WhatsApp] currently adding more than 1 million new registered users per day

Jesus! I never thought it's that much.

kalina

@AviD LOL

AviD

@Adnan yeah, well some of that is marketing bullshit.

@TerryChia the reason you've never heard of it, is they sell only in US.

also, they have an actual technology product. Quite cool, actually.

Rоry McCune

@TerryChia smart thermometer dudes, it's an interesting company/idea but the security side is likely to be a nightmare...

AviD

@RоryMcCune oh surely. Probably why google was interested ;-)

Adnan

Wait wait wait...

Only 25% of the deal is in cash, the rest in stocks.

Rоry McCune

11:22

@AviD well it's more information for the google engine isnt' it...

Adnan

How much of Facebook does WhatsApp now own?

AviD

@Adnan how does that change anything?

@Adnan before the sale? None.

Terry Chia

@Adnan "WhatsApp" doesn't own anything.

AviD

they had one VC investor.... for 8M$.

Adnan

@TerryChia The people of WhatsApp. No need to nitpick.

AviD

11:23

ah, thought you meant the other way around.

Terry Chia

The employees are freaking lucky actually.

Adnan

@AviD Obviously after.

AviD

I think it was mentioned something like 22 million shares. no clue what thats worth, though apparently its about 13B$.

@TerryChia so's the founder. Apparently he's a clueless putz.

Terry Chia

@AviD 13B in shares, 3B in cash, plus another 3B in shares after 4 years for the employees.

From what I have heard at least.

AviD

FB and twitter both refused to hire him, and look at the guy's history.

Terry Chia

11:24

@AviD Yeah, that bit was hilarious.

Adnan

Jesus Fucking Christ. The WhatsApp people now have 14% ownership of Facebook.

That's a lot of % for something that offers only a small part of what Facebook offers (chat/messaging)

Terry Chia

@Adnan Facebook obviously doesn't give a damn about the product.

AviD

@Adnan exactly.

Adnan

@TerryChia Neither about 14% of their company.

Adnan

11:45

I was just asked the following question by a colleague:

> Why is "{CompanyName} Device Issuing CA" signing my extranet certificates?

When I responded by "I have no idea what that question means"

He said "Aren't you supposed to be the guy who knows about security?"

AviD

@TerryChia you're wrong, that's exactly what they DO care about. You're just confused as to what the "product" actually is.

Terry Chia

@AviD Good point.

AviD

haha, apropos:

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Q: Chat Apps Security Comparison

Can you please make a comparison between WhatsApp, Telegram, LINE, and WeChat regarding security, type of encryption, storage of chats/messages, and other option provided by each? Thanks in advance.

appsec

although I think that q would be a great candidate for QotW, considering.

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