The DMZ

Iszi

15:02

@ScottPack It actually uses "words" like "Ohai" and "boyo"?

@Adnan Was that a comment somewhere? You know you can post the permalink here and it will automatically drop the comment into chat.

Scott Pack

@Iszi Yes. Android OS uses words like "boyo", "ohai guise", "bitch please", and "how may I service you today?"

Adnan

@Iszi but then how can I show the only part of the comment that makes me look more right?

kiBytes

So I will be at London next week, any recommendations?

Adnan

@kiBytes For that you need @Poly

Scott Pack

I miss him. He doesn't hang out with us much anymore.

kalina

15:07

THANKS FOR ACCEPTING MY EDITS, GUYS

even though when I submitted the exact same edits a few months ago you rejected them

+10 points for being consistent

Simon

Alright, now I have an issue with whoever declined my flag.

Seriously, wow.

kalina

@Simon Get over it, nobody loves you

I mean... hi!

Simon

python.org — Terry Chia Sep 16 '13 at 15:34

HOW IS THIS COMMENT CONSTRUCTIVE?

kalina

@Simon it's not

Scott Pack

@kalina Hey, you have no idea whether we've been consistent or not.

Simon

15:08

@kalina Yet my flag was declined.

kalina

@ScottPack yes I do, I can read

@Simon well don't look at me, I didn't decline it

Scott Pack

You just know that last time more rejection votes were cast and this time more accept votes were cast.

kalina

If I had the ability to decline your flag I'd have deleted your account by now

Simon

@AviD @RoryAlsop It'd be great if you could explain this one. ^

Adnan

@kalina Please link to the same exact edit that was rejected before.

Note: I accepted those two recent edit of yours.

kalina

15:09

I don't want to

I am busy

also they may not have been the same edits

I just wanted to use the word consistent and cause some drama

if only for a brief moment

so sue me

Adnan

@kalina Good, then. Now, chop chop.

AviD

@Simon wasnt me. Though I considered declining your flag, then deleting the comment anyway. Briefly.

Simon

@AviD Just for the lulz, right?

Let's face it, it's a very valid flag.

AviD

of course. And to attempt to humiliate and demean you further.

If that is possible.

Simon

lol

AviD

15:13

@Simon yes, but it is also a very valid comment.

kiBytes

Is ever there anything to review in the first/late queues?

Simon

@AviD So, when someone requests a banana, you give him an orange?

kiBytes

you better let me earn my badge.

Rоry McCune

@AviD so I can totes comment ruby-lang.org too :) awesome

Adnan

@kiBytes They get snatched by other reviewers very quickly

AviD

15:14

@Simon if that someone complains that his banana is not orangey enough, yes.

@RоryMcCune sure. though I dont really remember the context.

Iszi

@kalina Consistency is overrated.

AviD

probably something about how to do something securely in PHP.

Rоry McCune

@AviD well anywhere the "p" word is used ruby is automatically a better choice :)

Simon

@AviD I don't think the user did that.

AviD

@RоryMcCune really?? how would you pronounce LAMR??

aaahhh, I think not.

Rоry McCune

15:16

@AviD <redacted snarkiness>

AviD

@Simon i dont remember it, link the q?

Iszi

@kalina No you don't. See, our process could be that every time we see a flag we roll a d20 to decide whether we validate or decline it. Though the results may differ each time, the process is still consistent.

Adnan

@Iszi Especially when the same exact edits couldn't have been done "a few months ago" because the posts in question are less 2 weeks old.

kalina

@Iszi This is not consistent as per Stack Exchange policy

Rоry McCune

@kalina it should be 2d10 shouldn't it

AviD

15:17

@RоryMcCune I'm going to change my username to that.

Iszi

@kalina Where in StackExchange policy is a fair dice roll disallowed?

Simon

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Q: Best way to sanitize user input in PHP

Best way to sanitize User input so things i did when users place data - substr if over limited values found. htmlspecialchars() + ent_quotes + UTF-8 str_replace '<' '>' users input What more things need to be done ?

xss

AviD

I think that will be my blog's name too.

kalina

ok, you're all trolling me now

I'M GOING TO GO AND LEAVE YOU ALL TO BE SILLY

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune Funny thing was, someone was bitching about Ruby (well... rails) on my Twitter feed earlier today. :P

kalina

15:17

bbiab

AviD

@Simon ah, right. so yeah, "best way " is not in PHP.

Simon

@AviD He's not asking for the best way in general, he's asking for the best way in PHP.

Rоry McCune

@TerryChia well ya know not everyone can be right :)

Terry Chia

Today, a half dozen Ruby package tools I've never even used have been suggested to "fix" the half dozen I already know. Seems sustainable.

Tweeted by garybernhardt on January 22, 2014 at 10:02 PM

@RоryMcCune I feel like he has a point really.

Adnan

@Simon I completely agree with you. This comment doesn't answer the question. However, remember it's a comment. We have a long history of comments of that sort, some of which are yours.

Rоry McCune

15:19

@TerryChia it is version, management's a mess (IMO) for a lot of use cases

@Adnan when did you become the voice of reason :op did I miss something...

AviD

@Simon and @TerryChia is snarkily explaining that those are mutually exclusive.

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune He does a complete 180 from time to time.

Simon

@Adnan And I'd totally agree if someone would remove my comment.

AviD

@TerryChia yeah, some of his lady friends like that about him.

Rоry McCune

@TerryChia I'm tempted to make reference to the fact that he may have (in the crude scottish vernacular) have got his nat king cole, as a reason, but I realise I'm being overly snarky this afternoon...

AviD

15:21

@Simon It's an example of the X/Y problem.

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kiBytes

this post is asked in negative logic: security.stackexchange.com/questions/49241/…

Simon

@AviD Male and female?

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kiBytes

I have suggested an edit (and I will need to edit my response if someone find it is ok to change that)

Terry Chia

@AviD How many times can you nest that before something breaks I wonder.

AviD

15:23

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Challenge - accepted!

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Adnan

@kiBytes What?!

> Are several patterns for secure deletion unnecessary?

Simon

Ah I get it, male and female.

Adnan

> No, they arent. In fact several patterns are needed for ensure secure deletion.

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Adnan

@kiBytes Good edit.

Terry Chia

15:24

@Adnan What's wrong? They are not unnecessary. :P

Iszi

OMG, why is it that people can't just get this instead of complaining about me asking "Why?" all the time?

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Iszi

The easiest way to get to the real problem is usually asking Why five times. — Gordon Oct 21 '12 at 17:25

Adnan

@TerryChia Ummm Please see the second part of that sentence

TildalWave

@AviD have you tried referencing your own post then referencing it again?

AviD

15:25

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what do you mean?

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Iszi

Wait... how the bloody hell are those timestamps going down?

TildalWave

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AviD

@Iszi when @Adnan is around, everybody goes down.

Terry Chia

15:27

@Iszi They are relative to the previous message.

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TildalWave

there lol

that's what I meant

Terry Chia

Crap, this is gonna be annoying.

AviD

@TerryChia @Iszi and we are growing more impatient each time.

TildalWave

15:27

@TerryChia that's recursive for you, you end up re-cursing it

AviD

@TerryChia well, you did ask.

Terry Chia

@AviD It was just an idle thought. I had no idea you were so bored. :P

Scott Pack

To properly understand recursion you must first understand recursion.

kiBytes

ok, there is something I don't understand

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kiBytes

15:31

I have proposed an edition

AviD

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kiBytes

how do I know if it have been moderated?

Rоry McCune

@ScottPack et tu scott

AviD

to be fair, I am bored with this. It already fills up my small window.

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@AviD TWSS

Adnan

15:32

Freaking asholes!! Stop it!

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copy

It's already broken on 1280x1024

TildalWave

@Adnan What? You don't like vertical text?

Rоry McCune

@copy hell it's broken on 2560x1600!

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Xander

@kiBytes If what has been moderated? Sorry, not following.

AviD

15:33

@Adnan I am tempted to reply to you. But as it is already annoying me more than the pleasure I would get out of annoying you, I won't.

TildalWave

@RоryMcCune I see it fine

kiBytes

@Xander it is very hard to follow with all this "okular attack" @avid is gifting to us

I proposed an edition in a question

But I can't find if it has been reviewed or not

AviD

@kiBytes s/edition/edit/

Rоry McCune

@TildalWave I can see it, it's just filling the whole window every time it's reposted... at least now I have some idea what being on 4chan is like without actually having to go there...

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kiBytes

@avid true, edit =)

Terry Chia

15:34

I formally apologize.

TildalWave

@RоryMcCune hehe fair enough :)

kiBytes

and I believe I should say "gifting us" instead of "gifting to us"

Xander

@RоryMcCune Really? Not broken for me yet on 1920x1200, though it is on 1600x1200.

Scott Pack

Define "broken".

Rоry McCune

@Xander rly maybe I have my DPI set odd, one iteration completely fills the window now....

copy

15:37

Terry Chia

my 1920X1080 is being filled up.

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Xander

@RоryMcCune Ah, height-wise. Yeah, I still have one iteration +~ 4 posts. and width wise, it's still fine in 1920, though I'm getting button overlap in 1600.

Rоry McCune

@copy ahh no it hadn't done that yet...

Adnan

@kiBytes I've just checked your suggestions. You have 0 suggestion edits.

Scott Pack

It's been filling up my screen height on 1080 for quite a long time.

kiBytes

15:38

@Adnan then I believe I left the page without "saving" or something...

Adnan

@kiBytes Very possible

Terry Chia

Who is just randomly starring stuff?

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Xander

@kiBytes It just came up in the queue for me.

Rоry McCune

kiBytes

@Xander

I have edited it again

Scott Pack

15:42

@Xander

Xander

@Scott

Terry Chia

@Terry

Sorry, I just felt left out.

kiBytes

But the correct answer should be edited to conform the positive logic =)

I can't edit the answer because the edit is less than 6 chars...

Scott Pack

@Rocky.

kiBytes

Now, done =D

AviD

15:44

@ScottPack @Apollo?

TildalWave

@ScottPack @Rocky2

kiBytes

Oh my god. You are really bored this afternoon, aren't you?

TildalWave

yup

Adnan

I'm not.

kiBytes

cracked.com/…

Adnan

15:48

@kiBytes Oh no! Why did I click?!

I have lots of work to finish!

TildalWave

I'm waiting for that snow that was promised for the weekend, kinda miss some physical activity...

Adnan

@TildalWave So you're saying that you.. haven't gotten physical in a while?

TildalWave

@Adnan OK... outdoors activity. There, better?

Scott Pack

@TildalWave We got some snow earlier in the week, and now it's hovering around 0F

Adnan

@Tildal You should probably implement the multiple-girlfriend model I have. It's flawless!

Except when it's not

which is most of the time

Ahh.. I have to rethink my life.

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TildalWave

15:53

@ScottPack Yeah I know I was getting updates on Twitter from around that area, and I frankly miss snow this winter, last one was brilliant because of that (lots of dry snow when it was, and never got too muddy even when it started slowly melting, which is great)

They promised up to 20 cm (~ 8 inches) of snow this weekend

kiBytes

See you

Scott Pack

@TildalWave That's a lot.

TildalWave

@ScottPack Yes, but the ground is all wet now so it'd take a few " just due to that. And it would be first proper snow this winter, which is always lots of fun :)

I'm keeping my fingers crossed

Polynomial

afternoon

Scott Pack

@TildalWave We've had several good sized snows, but that would be an intense amount all at once for us

TildalWave

16:00

@Poly it's been a while ... g'day sir! :)

Polynomial

g'day... yeah, been a busy few months

Scott Pack

@Polynomial Hey sweetnes

TildalWave

@ScottPack I'm under Alps here, kinda used to it. It was seriously laughter inducing when it happened at the Black Sea one year when I was there tho, nobody knew how to even walk on snow or had proper footwear for it.

Scott Pack

I'll bet

Polynomial

@ScottPack sup gorgeous.

AviD

16:09

@Polynomial @Poly! Hey guise look, it's @Polynomial! @Poly is back!

Polynomial

heh

blame the rories!

reminding me that this place exists and stuff

ha, just heard that Bieber got arrested for DUI

Terry Chia

@Polynomial Pffft! Abandoning us now that you have a cool job... I expected better from you man!

Polynomial

@TerryChia lol, well it's always busy here

Rоry McCune

@Polynomial totally, we used T-Shirts and everything!

Polynomial

@RоryMcCune magic hypnotic t-shirts

Terry Chia

16:17

Ooooh, IBM sold their x86 division to Lenovo.

Scott Pack

@TerryChia Didn't they do that years ago?

Terry Chia

@ScottPack I mean the x86 server division.

Polynomial

wait, really?

wow

a place I used to work at is gonna have a bad time then

Terry Chia

arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/…

Scott Pack

Oh, that's interesting.

Rоry McCune

16:23

in other interesting tech acquisitions, vmware bought Airwatch

so that's the "MDM vendors getting bought by the big boys" trend started..

Scott Pack

Oh wow. This is freaking terrible

cracked.com/…

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune I was going to ask what is Airwatch until you mentioned MDM.

Rоry McCune

@TerryChia yeah hot sector at the moment 'cause everyone's buying android/iOS devices that are REALLY not designed for large company life

so they have to buy software to try and manage them...

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune I really don't see the point of MDM really.

I like how RedHat deals with it. "Here's your Thinkpad, do whatever you like with it!".

Rоry McCune

@TerryChia yeah but that's to tech staff.....

Scott Pack

16:27

@TerryChia Exactly what @RоryMcCune is getting at. This is for corporate tech support to manage the devices just like they manage their user's computers.

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune No, sales and marketing etc as well.

They have marketing people running RHEL. I thought that was pretty funny. :P

Rоry McCune

@TerryChia how the flip do they manage user support calls...?

Scott Pack

Oh, you mean RedHat, as a company, doesn't manage their user's desktops?

Rоry McCune

yeah that's super scary

Adnan

Yup, this isn't a dupe.

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Q: What are the benefits of having multiple overwriting patterns for secure deletion?

When installing a new AIX server, there is a possibility to use several patterns for secure deletion. My question: Is it necessary to use several patterns? What is the benefit from having several ones?

unix deletion data-remanence

Rоry McCune

16:28

amount of time till they get pwned .... -some years..

@Adnan why don't you think it's a dupe of the multiple wipe question?

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune The APAC office is very small though, maybe that's why they don't bother.

Adnan

@RоryMcCune Actually, he's asking about having multiple patterns.

Terry Chia

They have just one guy for tech support issues.

Adnan

@RoryM As in "Is the pattern 01 better than 00?"

That's clear from his edit, on which I based my edit

Rоry McCune

@Adnan hmm I read it as why multiple patterns instead of one

but it's part of the same thing really

you don't need more than one

whether you overwrite with all 0's or patterns

is irrelevant

Adnan

16:30

@RоryMcCune No no

Rоry McCune

@Adnan elighten me then?

Adnan

The question is: In one pass, is 01 better than 00?

Rоry McCune

@Adnan nope

Scott Pack

@TerryChia I think you'll need to validate that. What does "they" mean here? Because I'd be shocked if the entire company only has 1 tech support guy

Adnan

@RоryMcCune Great. Then that's the answer.

Rоry McCune

16:31

one pass with any data uniformly over the disk is fine

Adnan

@RоryMcCune With which I fully agree.

Terry Chia

@ScottPack APAC/SG office which is mostly marketing and sales people.

Rоry McCune

but to me that's the same q. as multiple passes against one pass

Scott Pack

@TerryChia Oh, so a specific office that has a small subset of people is managed in this specific way. I do see how that equates a multi-national company doing something badly. :)

Adnan

@RоryMcCune Could you please expand on that one?

Rоry McCune

16:33

@Adnan well the screen he shows offers the chance of overwriting once or more than once, with different patterns. the patterns bit is window dressing the key question is once or more than once, that's the same q. as in the other one :)

Adnan

How are these two the same:
- With one pass only, is one pattern better than the other?
- Is it necessary to use more than one pass?

Rоry McCune

@Adnan ah there's the thing, I'm reading it as one pass with each pattern

not one pass with different patterns

Adnan

@RоryMcCune Yup, that's the question.

Different patterns aren't repeated. Just ONE pass overall

Rоry McCune

@Adnan If you read the screen he posted it starts "select the number of times the disk will be erased"

then offers you a pattern to use

Adnan

@RоryMcCune I did, but that's a tool usage

After the OP's edit, it's clear he's not asking about that

@RоryMcCune Okay, I've just checked with a colleague who works with AIX servers. He said it's possible to pick the number of passes and the pattern. There are no patterns corresponding to a number of passes.

Rоry McCune

16:38

@Adnan ok both the answers are wrong then as they took the stance that the question is about number of times erased too. easy answer too, "there is no benefit, it's window dressing"

Rоry McCune

17:51

kickstarter.com/projects/lindaliukas/hello-ruby

^ good kickstarter for peeps with kids who want to start them off on the path to righteousness ...

Xander

@RоryMcCune That's very cool.

Scott Pack

18:16

@RоryMcCune But it they misspelled perl. How good can it bet?

Rоry McCune

@ScottPack doesn't teaching kids perl contravene some sort of child abuse law?

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Iszi

18:35

Do we have a canonical "We don't know any more than the general public does, so stop asking these sorts of questions." question?

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Q: How was the Target data breach acomplished?

I read the attackers were able to capture magstripe and CCV values, but those values are not normally stored due to PCI compliance. It sounds like the attackers were able to directly infect the POS machines themselves, is this true? It was reported that a 17 year old wrote the software for the br...

network malware credit-card payment-gateway

TildalWave

@Iszi just "primarily opinion based"

Iszi

Seriously, though: It seems we get a handful of these questions for just about every major publicly disclosed breach that happens. Where do we put up the sign that says "Go read some news articles, you'll learn more."?

And how the crap is this still open?

1

Q: What should I do to protect my account, which was exposed in a large data breach?

A large chain of stores, with whom I have registered a credit card (Target Red Card, in this case), just reported a large data breach, revealing card data and other account details for over 40 million consumers. I couldn't find any information anywhere on what the customers, whose card details ...

credit-card disclosure identity-theft consumer-protection

@TildalWave Also fits "too broad".

TildalWave

@Iszi often that too yes

Scott Pack

@RоryMcCune Let's just put aside our differences and agree to not teach children Cobol.

Rоry McCune

@ScottPack we should be ok there, that one's banned by the geneva convention!

Iszi

18:47

Is there a way to force SE to do a case-sensitive search?

Scott Pack

18:58

/i

@RоryMcCune Good thing that's ruthlessly followed!

Stack Exchange

19:10

Blog - Stack Exchange: Stack Exchange CC data now hosted by the Internet Archive

David Fullerton on January 23, 2014

We’ve been publishing an anonymized dump of all user-contributed Stack Exchange content since 2009. Unfortunately, at the end of last year our former host, ClearBits, permanently shut down. So we set out to look for a new home for our data dumps, and today we’re happy to announce that the Internet Archive has agreed to host them:

We’ve been big fans of the Internet Archive for a long time, and we’re really happy to be working with them on this.

All community-contributed content on Stack Exchange is licensed under the Creative Commons BY-SA 3.0 license. As part of our commitment to that, we relea …

Rоry McCune

19:41

I see we now have a Bear #1 and #2

kiBytes

So, another question =)

I have tried to see how tag creation work

since it looks like I have privileges to create them

but, I am not able to create any

Iszi

19:58

@RоryMcCune What do you mean "now"? This is not news.

@kiBytes It's just a matter of writing a question (or editing a question) so that it uses a tag which previously did not exist.

Rоry McCune

@Iszi ah isn't it I just saw that bear two has 50.8 and D.W has 50.7 and assumed it had happened recently....

Iszi

No special process about it.

kiBytes

@Iszi ah, ok, I though that you could create new tags

without having to assign them to any question

Iszi

@kiBytes That would be pointless.

kiBytes

@is

Iszi

20:01

@RоryMcCune Ah, you mean #1 & #2 as in the top users by rep? Perhaps that is new.

kiBytes

@Iszi I don't think so, but it is fine doing it in this way =)

Rоry McCune

@Iszi indeed that's the one...

Iszi

@kiBytes There might be some purpose for it way back in the early days of the site - say, around the Private Beta phase - but a mature site like ours should already have all the basic tags that it needs. If a new question arises that warrants addition of another tag, someone with new tag privileges can then create one and assign it. Tags without questions have little to no value.

And the same can quite nearly be said for tags with only one or two questions.

kiBytes

@Iszi I can see a way in empty tags to encourage users to ask questions about topics has been never asked before or they are rarely asked. It helps you to have more variety in the site

@Iszi and since stackexchange relies on gamification I believe that that should do the trick for them

but it is just an example

I don't mean they have to change it =)

I only had the doubt since I saw a "new tag" in the tags tab =)

Thomas Pornin

20:24

@RоryMcCune Since this morning.

TildalWave

time for a change :)

@Iszi There's a launch tonight at Cape, just in case you forgot about it ;)

Iszi

20:42

@TildalWave I'm aware. Too late for me to stick around for it though. Thanks anyway.

TildalWave

Sure ;) There's gonna be live streams anyway, prolly on ULA and NASA

Iszi

Weather's been clear enough, I might still be able to see a bright light going up in the sky from my house.

ManishEarth

@Adnan put up a patch. Rather confused about the UI though.

Rоry McCune

21:29

@ThomasPornin congrats :)

Scott Pack

@ThomasPornin Huzzah.

AviD

@TildalWave @Tildal, you cock.

Lucas Kauffman

Guess what, they have Westvleteren here in Norway

TildalWave

@AviD you pussy :P

OK ... Tigger

big pussy

Lucas Kauffman

@TildalWave The thing is that the cock always fucks the pussy and not the otherway around

AviD

21:38

talater.com/chrome-is-listening

TildalWave

@LucasKauffman aye but tell that to @AviD ;)

Lucas Kauffman

Scott Pack

I have to say, that bug scares me much less after reading the article than it did before.

Iszi

@LucasKauffman @AviD For the uninitiated, that's the Pokemon known as Slowpoke.

TildalWave

@AviD voice control is for noobs

AviD

21:45

5

TildalWave

@AviD hahaha

Iszi

@AviD Funny. First I laughed at the LOLcat face and funny question... and then I got the joke.

Scott Pack

Wow

Rory Alsop

@Simon I think I declined that one, but clicked that it was helpful

what happened to chat this evening?

Lucas Kauffman

@RoryAlsop security people

TildalWave

21:59

@RoryAlsop what happened?

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