The DMZ

David Freitag

00:04

@TildalWave I don't know that i believe that, a coincidence that big would just be nearly impossible...

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag It's just a joke, you know?

David Freitag

@TildalWave I know, and it's hysterical.

D3C4FF

01:48

@copy @paste @copy @paste @copy @paste @copy @paste @copy @paste

Shoop all

Looks quiet here...

copy

Oh hi

How's the summer?

D3C4FF

Toastay!

i'm heading interstate to a colder climate tomorrow though :(

copy

Colder like 40 degrees?

D3C4FF

35... ;__;

copy

Holy cow

David Freitag

01:53

@D3C4FF Celsius?

copy

@DavidFreitag The only scale that makes sense

David Freitag

@copy Heh, I'm just starting to get used to it...

D3C4FF

@DavidFreitag of course

'straylya

David Freitag

@copy And how exactly does Celsius make more sense than Kelvin?

D3C4FF

@DavidFreitag Because 0 degrees = 'universal constant'

in the same way that 0K = universal constant

just a different one

copy

01:55

Water boils at 100 and freezes at 0. So you have good reference points

David Freitag

@copy 0 F - very cold, 180 F very hot; 0 C chilly 180 C dead, 0 K dead 180 K dead

Kelvin is very simple.

copy

0K – impossible?

David Freitag

Theoretically? No.

D3C4FF

@DavidFreitag theoretically

Perhaps in deep space somewhere on the far reaches of the universe...

but even then, likely to be 0.00001K

David Freitag

Physically? Currently? Yes. Physically? Ever? Ask @Manish.

copy

01:59

Well, I'm interested, but not good in physics

David Freitag

@D3C4FF We can get to something like a billionth of a degree away from 0K i think using lasers.

D3C4FF

web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2003/cooling.html @copy @DavidFreitag

a gas was cooled below 1 nanokelvin

The new record set by the MIT group is 500 picokelvin, or six times lower.

David Freitag

> As of November 2000, nuclear spin temperatures below 100 pK were reported for an experiment at the Aalto University's Low Temperature Lab

via da vikipedia

pico, which is ten to the power of -12.

D3C4FF

ooooh

cool .

David Freitag

Which is in fact 1/10th of a billionth of a degree.

D3C4FF

02:03

That would be some funky shit...

The record-low temperature was reached in a piece of rhodium metal, which was cooled to 100 pK, or 0.000 000 000 1 degrees above the absolute zero. The absolute zero is the limit of all temperatures, —273.15... C, a temperature one can never reach.

ltl.tkk.fi/wiki/LTL/World_record_in_low_temperatures

David Freitag

Th problem is that quantum mechanics says that temperature isn't exactly "temperature" at the subatomic scale, so true 0K may still be unatainable..

D3C4FF

Maybe Adnan knows something of it :P

David Freitag

I would but my money on @ManishEarth, wherever he may be.

D3C4FF

waits for a wild @ManishEarth to appear

David Freitag

His internet dies during certain periods of time. That and it's probably somewhere around 4am where he is.

D3C4FF

02:24

:/

ooh @paste snuck in like a cat

HIII @PASTE

David Freitag

This is a C++ class, i really wish the instructor would use better identifiers than int k = 32 int x[110]; cout << x[k] << endl;...

D3C4FF

k is for kompressor

David Freitag

I mean, sure it's C++ for engineers, but still. If you're going to do it, do it right dammit.

copy

03:07

x is for xylophone

paste

@D3C4FF Hi

D3C4FF

►

Old internet meme is old.

paste

k is for kompressor, kompressor is for me!

@D3C4FF Can I have your number? I must know who you are.

D3C4FF

@paste Tempting. But no, sorry.

@paste Why do you want to know?

paste

You are my friend. :)

D3C4FF

03:22

Not this kind of internet friend i hope: youtube.com/watch?v=gcejLp72iCE

dances

paste

We are that kind of friends.

That song is so me. I'll tweet it.

D3C4FF

t3.gstatic.com/…

Tweet it with this image

now with 100% more stabby

paste

Too late :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcejLp72iCE Story of my life

Tweeted by eeveeta on November 14, 2013 at 3:24 AM

D3C4FF

That picture looks different to your old avatar

paste

I look like a cat in all of them.

D3C4FF

03:30

Not sure if cat or human...

Hmmm...

Oh! Maybe I'll utilize some VoIP bridges one day and create a gateway for everyone on sec.se to call into for teh lulz

purrgramming, cat references, CAT AVATAR! @paste IS ACTUALLY A CAT!!!

DEFINITIVE PROOF

paste

YES

D3C4FF

cracks CSO's Password

Password == Password1

facepalm

paste

Haha

I think I found you.

D3C4FF

@paste You found me eh?

K-go

paste

Maybe not. :(

D3C4FF

03:41

Who'd ya find? Huh? Huh!?

paste

Flickr Album :(

D3C4FF

Nobody. Nobody! That's who! rubs belly who's a good kitty!

paste

Come now, surely we can be friends? I know so much about you

Anyways. My test went well.

So I might go to Germany.

D3C4FF

@paste Wait, which test?

paste

My German language test of course.

D3C4FF

03:54

I quite like germany. And i'm pretty good at it when i'm over there, but since i'm not there now i've forgotten everything :(

Maybe we'll meet in Germany one day!

paste

copy and I were talking about going to Australia to meet you. :)

D3C4FF

Haha, well, i'd meet you if you bothered to come all the way down here. :P

paste

Yay!

D3C4FF

Suprise, a random twitter person on the internet is following you

paste

I wonder who that is.

D3C4FF

04:01

Totally not me.

paste

I wonder when the stranger will accept my follow request.

D3C4FF

If the stranger is anything like me they have no fuckin' idea how ^_^

paste

Either click followers or connect. I forgot.

D3C4FF

UNDERSTOOD.

tylerl

04:34

anything interesting happen yesterday/

s/\//\?/

messy regexes when you have to replace a slash

D3C4FF

@tylerl I thought it was 1337-speak

facepalm

tylerl

so... nothing then?

paste

Rory rorried Rory rory Rory.

tylerl

04:57

@paste You totally rory'ed wrong. The syntax is:

@Rory @rorried @Rory @rory @Rory.

otherwise nobody gets pinged.

paste

Okay.

tylerl

:)

David Freitag

06:15

@tylerl Simon being a creep, as usual.

Lucas Kauffman

07:01

gooooood morniiiiiiing

ManishEarth

07:31

@copy Zero kelvin is impossible. Though negative temperatures are possible (they don't mean what you think they mean)

Quantum fluctuations and general unidealities prevent you from ever reaching it

Rory Alsop

you rang @tylerl? ;-P

tylerl

morning

for one of us

Rory Alsop

definitely morning for me. a Cold clear crisp winter morning. Lovely

Lucas Kauffman

Here it's gray rainy and cold

I already made my first snarky comment

ManishEarth

07:51

@tylerl Use s|/|?| or something then

tylerl

@ManishEarth yes yes.

Rory McCune

09:55

@RoryAlsop it's smegging it down with rain over here! one thing I've noticed so far it's definitely wetter in the west..

Rory Alsop

10:09

@RoryM - it did kind of say that on the tin, though :-)

Rest and be Thankful landslides how many times in the last 10 years?

Rory McCune

10:44

@RoryAlsop well a couple I guess :) Had another delight of country living yesterday A82 closed by an accident then lorries try the A814 to get round it and get jammed (if you've not driven it the 814 is v.narrow down the side of loch long) took me 3 hours to get home from glasgow!

Lucas Kauffman

12:23

@RoryMcCune you need a helicopter

Rory McCune

@LucasKauffman or a boat :) we're right on a sea loch so that's actually vaguely plausible..

Simon

13:18

MORNING BORING PEOPLE!

@DavidFreitag WHERE WHAT WHO HOW?

Scott Pack

Gentlemen. @Simon.

Simon

allo

o :(

Scott Pack

So I'm rather annoyed. My Nexus 7 prompted me for the 4.4 update last night so I blindly hit update just like every other time.

This time I got stuck in a boot animation loop

sigh

Simon

Don't you have to wipe the Dalvik cache when that happens?

Scott Pack

That's usually when you're flashing a new rom. This is an OTA update.

Simon

13:28

Ah.

I guess I should update my Nexus 7 too then.

Scott Pack

I've unlocked and such. Apparently, with this update, it isn't so clean.

Simon

I barely used mine, it's not even rooted.

Scott Pack

They only started rolling it out yesterday so you may not have access to the update yet.

Simon

My phone on the other hand... Cyanogenmod 4 lyfe

Scott Pack

You can still pound the "check update" button thouh

Simon

13:29

@ScottPack Yeah I did that the day before yesterday when people started to talk about it.

Completely forgot about it yesterday.

But yeah, it's possibly not "officially" available for me yet cuz le Canaduh.

And too lazy to get the source and flash it.

Scott Pack

androidpolice.com/2013/11/13/…

Simon

Did they have to pay something to use the name Kitkat?

Yeah, too lazy to do that. I'm not motivated to flash stuff on my tablet these days.

I'm getting old.

Scott Pack

I'm motivated to have a working tablet again.

Also. Jeebus it's cold.

Simon

You're lucky, you can shamelessly put a blanket on you while working.

Scott Pack

It's true. It's currently -2.7 outside.

Simon

13:37

Look at you being all nice and converting to Celsius.

It's 1 here, better than yesterday.

Scott Pack

The high today is supposed to be around 8.5. I don't much care for it.

Simon

That's pretty good.

Simon

13:52

This dude is reviewing first posts: security.stackexchange.com/users/30682/sajjad-pourali

I don't like his face.

Is this how you guys feel like when you look at me?

Scott Pack

Looks like a total ragamuffin.

Simon

rofl

Stack Exchange

14:12

Blog - Stack Exchange: Podcast #54 – The One With All The Anachronisms

Alex Miller on November 14, 2013

Welcome to Stack Exchange Podcast #54, with special guest Sara J. Chipps! Joining us today also is CFO Michael Pryor. Your hosts as usual are Jay Hanlon, David Fullerton, and Joel Spolsky. Today’s episode is brought to you by /r/husky!

We’ll start out with Site Milestones. We have one: Ham Radio will be in public beta by the time this podcast goes live. Turns out there are tons of ham radio enthusiasts even today. Ham!

New Features The big thing we’re currently working on is the new topbar. It hasn’t changed in years… until now! David walks us through the new featu …

Simon

Can I flag this?

Iszi

@Simon "This" being...?

Simon

SE

Should've said "that".

Pardon ma fwench

Scott Pack

/r/husky sounds like it's probably NSFW

Simon

14:31

I still don't understand how reddit works. Never actually tried to understand it though.

I know how AMAs work but those /r/wieners, no idea.

Terry Chia

I like /r/atwoodslaw

Simon

14:48

@TerryChia I like you.

ManishEarth

@TerryChia github.com/pa7/nude.js

Terry Chia

@Simon I'm not @ScottPack.

Simon

@TerryChia Duh.

Terry Chia

@ManishEarth Yeah, that made me chuckle. :)

Simon

Isn't there a scene in the first movie of Spiderman (or possibly another super hero) where someone says: "I am Spiderman" and then some other dudes are like "No, I am Spiderman". I wanna edit that to "I am Scott Pack".

Terry Chia

14:52

@Simon Do it!

Simon

No.

le too broad: security.stackexchange.com/questions/45474/…

AKA l'too broad

Abe Miessler

15:45

I think bananas might be the perfect breakfast

Terry Chia

@AbeMiessler TWSS

Simon

I believe that nuts is the perfect breakfast.

Terry Chia

@Simon TWSS

Simon

I know Terry, I know.

Terry Chia

@Simon Needs to be said anyway.

Simon

15:48

I tried to upgrade my version of jquery datatables from 1.9.4 to 1.9.4. I realized that this might be useless.

Terry Chia

@Simon You don't say.

Simon

Got some sand today Terry?

/cc: @LucasKauffman

Terry Chia

@Simon No. :)

Simon

^_^

David Freitag

16:50

@ManishEarth I knew you would know :]

ManishEarth

:)

A roster of TLS cipher suites weaknesses

Simon

17:06

@ManishEarth nurd

ManishEarth

@Simon turd

Simon

That's rude.

Terry Chia

@Simon So's your face.

Abe Miessler

I hate it when you guys fight

Simon

@TerryChia Go to bed.

It's late young man.

Terry Chia

17:09

@AbeMiessler This isn't a fight. :)

Abe Miessler

Your face isn't a fight

Simon

Taste your own medicine!

Terry Chia

@AbeMiessler I'm a very peaceful person.

Simon

lies

He flags all the posts, ALL OF THEM.

Terry Chia

@Simon Shush you. Go back to eating maple syrup.

3

Simon

17:12

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Abe Miessler

@TerryChia is a bed wetter who will kill us all in our sleep

Simon

wat

Terry Chia

^ what @Simon said.

Abe Miessler

wat

Simon

I

AIN'T

EVEN

MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD

Abe Miessler

17:22

clearly upset

Simon

@TerryChia Go to bed, you'll be tired tomorrow.

Don't pull a Silly Simon.

1. Silly Simon - To get constantly ~6 hours of sleep.

Yes, I totally made that up.

Oh boy, urban dictionary doesn't agree.

Simon

18:09

"Day 4: I still don't understand why the chat has been dead since the beginning of the week. I believe that a zombie apocalypse might be the reason."

David Freitag

@Simon Withdrawals of the bear type methinks.

Simon

Oh, that might be it.

David Freitag

Also, no @RoryA, @Adnan, @AviD, @Terry, and no @Xander.

Simon

qq

David Freitag

18:32

Undo

18:51

Any mods in here bored?

Or want to get their flag handling count up?

David Freitag

I don't think there are even any mods from Sec.SE even in the room right now.

Undo

They got lucky.

David Freitag

Or unlucky, none of them are here to say no :p

Scott Pack

@Undo You got some stuff worth flagging to share?

Undo

@ScottPack Well, I kind of have a... tool.

Scott Pack

19:00

About half the population does.

Undo

Designed to efficiently flag obsolete comments.

When I get bored, I search around chat until I find a blue person. I then fill up their flag queue :)

Simon

nurd

Undo

lol

So far, I've hit:

David Freitag

@Simon You have such an abrasive personality sometimes.

Simon

@DavidFreitag Thank you.

David Freitag

19:03

@Simon Other times it can only be described as "sticky" or "slippery"

Undo

- Space.SE (almost completely cleared of obsolete comments)
- Astro.SE (same)
- Phys.SE (ongoing project; manish hates me)
- Chem.SE (manish hates me there too)
- GD.SE (because JohnB was in the wrong chatroom at the wrong time)
- Ham.SE (because I felt like it)
- Stack Overflow
- Server Fault
- Super User

Simon

@DavidFreitag Sticky and slippery? Those are opposites.

David Freitag

@Simon But in two separate cases. And no, something can be both sticky and slippery.

Simon

Odd.

David Freitag

It sticks to you, once it does it forms a layer between you and whatever you are touching.

It's why water + ice is so damn slippery

Simon

19:05

You're begging me to say something about my wiener right now.

David Freitag

No @Simon, that's the voices in your head.

Simon

That happens.

Iszi

@AviD @RoryAlsop @JeffFerland Can we get SU taken out of our off-topic close reasons? Any close reason that states the question belongs on another SE site should be a migration option instead - in fact, the SU off-topic reason is entirely redundant in our current configuration.

Simon

@Iszi I agree.

Scott Pack

@Undo I like it

Undo

19:08

@ScottPack Want it?

Scott Pack

@Undo Sure

I've attempted to do that through data.se in the past but it's always tricksome

Undo

@ScottPack It's OS X only... how do you want it transferred?

Also, be warned that it has a tendency to get you banned from the API if you really let it fly.

David Freitag

@Undo Telepathy

Undo

got to go now. Just a minute.

Scott Pack

@Undo Download link is fine.

Simon

19:12

Just share a link via Dropbox.

Too broad alert: security.stackexchange.com/review/first-posts/17447

I have no idea how I managed to link the review.

Undo

Okay, just a minute.

Oh, wait. I have it on Github!

(I have a slightly improved version, but oh well :)

github.com/Undo1/SECommentFlagger

David Freitag

@Undo So commit the new version?

Undo

Yeah, that's what I'm going to do.

David Freitag

@Simon Nurd

Simon

nurd 4 lyfe

Iszi

19:26

@Simon No, that's "N3rd 2^2 <3"

Simon

o soz

Nerd for love doesn't make much sense though, doesn't it?

David Freitag

Some ass decided it would be a great idea to bring in a large piece of apple pie in and microwave it in the cafeteria. Now all you can smell in here is apple pie. Goddamnit.

2

Simon

That's as bad as popcorn.

David Freitag

@Simon You might want to edit the stupid out of that.

Simon

@DavidFreitag Was in the process.

Undo

19:30

Okay, people: It's all updated:

github.com/Undo1/SECommentFlagger

Simon

Maybe I should get some sleep.

@Undo I clicked on the linked and it logged my keys.

Undo

@Simon Eh?

David Freitag

@Simon I said that to my boss during a board meeting this morning. The CEO of the company nearly fell out of her chair she was laughing so hard.

Simon

MA KEYS

@DavidFreitag Hahaha.

Why the hell did we both say that though?

It doesn't make any sense.

David Freitag

@Simon Say what?

Simon

19:32

OH

What did you say to your boss?

David Freitag

2 mins ago, by David Freitag

@Simon You might want to edit the stupid out of that.

Simon

I really need some sleep. Will I get some tonight? Nope, absolutely not.

@DavidFreitag Ah, that's what I thought.

David Freitag

@Simon Does this handkerchief smell like chloroform?

Simon

Did you get a raise at least?

@DavidFreitag Please, I'd like to know.

David Freitag

Why would i get a raise?

Simon

19:34

'Cause you made her laugh and now she's into you.

WOW REALLY?

Abe Miessler

no gag reflex?

Simon

@AbeMiessler wut

@ScottPack Did I ever tell you that if I had a million dollars, I'd buy your love?

Abe Miessler

You can't buy love

that's why you're single @Simon

Simon

No, I'm single because the last one was a bitch.

David Freitag

@AbeMiessler Tell that to the guy who owns PlayBoy.

Simon

19:37

@DavidFreitag Dayum.

Scott Pack

@Simon You never did, no.

@DavidFreitag His name is Hugh.

David Freitag

@Simon cough cough greasy frenchman cough cough

Abe Miessler

That's a good reason too

Simon

HOW THE FUCK AM I GREASY

HOW???

David Freitag

@ScottPack Yeah i couldn't remember and i certainly wasn't about to wikipedia that.

Simon

19:37

WHERE DID YOU SEE GREASE ON ME

Scott Pack

@Undo What, I have to compile it too? Jeez.

Simon

@ScottPack Sounds like it's easy to make you run a keylogger.

David Freitag

Woohoo 33,387 unreadable file segments!

Simon

Now, now, how the hell do these data sources work?

Le fu Windows.

Abe Miessler

parse them shits

David Freitag

19:41

@Simon Binding some custom data sources are we?

Simon

@DavidFreitag Yes. I configured a simple one but I gotta be able to edit the query on the fly (when someone clicks on the treeview, it has to update the data source accordingly)

David Freitag

@Simon Use an ObservableCollection

> Represents a dynamic data collection that provides notifications when items get added, removed, or when the whole list is refreshed.

Simon

okee dokee I'll look that up.

David Freitag

@Simon msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms668604(v=vs.110).aspx

Simon

Well basically, when someone clicks on the treeview, it has to modify the query of the data source.

Would that help me out?

David Freitag

19:43

It inherits from INotifyCollectionChanged i don't know that a tree view will support native binding to an ObservableCollection

@Simon What you just said makes pretty much no sense without context.

What is your current Binding type? What sort of query? DB? These things are important.

Simon

Binding type? No idea.

Query: a simple SELECT * FROM blabla WHERE id = 1337

DB: MySQL

Jeff Ferland

@Iszi I think that one is on there just for high volume. It's not redundant since that's the only one that doesn't take a mod.

Simon

@JeffFerland @ScottPack said that you're a midget, is that true?

ManishEarth

@JeffFerland Whadya mean? Can't 3ks migrate to SU?

yes we can

David Freitag

@Simon What are you binding to, the TreeView?

Simon

19:57

@DavidFreitag Oh, I didn't do that yet but that's plan. I want the listview of my datasource to be linked with my treeview, yeah.

David Freitag

@Simon So, a user makes a selection in a TreeView which changes the string-based parameterized SQL query, and that changes the DataSource in a ListView?

Simon

@DavidFreitag Yes but that's the part that I'm missing: the link between the TV and LV.

And how I can add a dynamic query to the datasource.

David Freitag

@Simon I'm assuming that you are getting data back from MySQL in the form of a DataTable correct?

Simon

@DavidFreitag Correct.

I should have said from a .txt file.

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