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00:12
You need about 15 more arguments to that emerge.
It's like emerge -Dnurpqfsltrizx world or some such.
@ScottPack when you get enough arguments, you can often rearrange them in memorable ways.
like ps -awwfux
Do you have a combination for tar?
@copy I don't normally have a lot of arguments to pass to tar. Just zxf
the --one-file-system option is really, really useful, though. And typically what you wanted anyway
@tylerl Or j
@ScottPack or J, cause xz > bz2
00:20
What on earth does that mean?
@ScottPack J instead of j uses the xz compression algorithm. It's teh one that 7zip invented
J unpacks .tar.xz files which are better than .tar.bz2
I got it right, yay
@copy I figured that, I was trying to figure out what xz was
LZMA apparently
thats the name
honestly, though; I typically still use gzip, since what I care about is compression speed, more than size.
Same here
And it's the only algorithm that I understand
00:42
@tylerl Wait, zxf? How you do both compress and extract an archive at the same time?
/just woke up
/still sleepy
`zxf` zipped, extract, file
`zcf` zipped, create, file
@tylerl I usually just use tar xvf for extracting. It extracts the files regardless of the compression algorithm.
@TerryChia only on newer versions
@tylerl Ah right, but who uses old systems anyway? :P
I dunno, I can never remember the tar commands.
@TerryChia lots and lots of my customers
00:46
I just remember one set of flags for extracting and compressing.
I typically use gzip because it's the only one installed by default on every Linux distro known to man.
@tylerl And only on gnutar /cc @TerryChia
ily @ScottPack
bai
@Simon Stop being a 3yo. You are 13 for god's sake.
00:52
@TerryChia 22
which makes it all the more sad
01:44
We backdoored @kaepora's computer and made it play the nyan cat song on loop until he agreed javascript crypto is a bad idea
Well played.
02:21
How has this guy's account not been flagged as offensive?
One cannot flag accounts. That is not an available feature.
So, what? Flag the guy's question?
I could flag your face?
I could flag your mom?
02:27
Or maybe I should flog her. I hear she's into that.
You're unusually saucy this evening.
I should be cranky. I can't find the software I need to get my fingerprint reader running after this latest rebuild.
Correction: I have found the software that should work, but it's not the software I used before AFAICT and it's just not working.
I reinstalled my laptop 3 times before I realized that the fingerprint reader was responsible for the authentication framework to not work.
The most frustrating bit is there's no reason it shouldn't be working, that I can tell. The drivers installed fine, and Windows is supposed to have built-in biometrics support.
But apparently there's another software layer that's needed for some BS reason.
The most ridiculous bit of it all is that the installers are showing as signed, but for some reason the unpacked executables are giving me signing errors.
And the errors are surprisingly not Google friendly.
"This program has attempted to load unsigned files in violation of policy and will now shut down."
"WARNING: This copy of HP ProtectTools has not been signed by Hewlett-Packard and may have been compromised."
02:56
@tylerl u want a piece of me boi?
 
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08:19
morning
@LucasKauffman is it?
@tylerl 't is
@LucasKauffman where you at?
@tylerl Luxembourg
@LucasKauffman ok then. I will allow it.
08:39
@tylerl How is at your end?
@Adnan getting late. nearly 2am
almost done i think
@Iszi If they say it, it's okay. At least that's what I learned from watching American TV shows.
just gotta switch someone over from using mod_php to mod_fcgid while the site isn't busy
@tylerl Hmmm.. heard of many people making this switch. Any particular reason?
@Adnan mod_php runs as apache
whereas fastcgi uses suexec
privilege separation
08:42
@tylerl Is it a permission/security issue?
@tylerl Yeah, that's what I thought.
Thanks for the clarification.
@Adnan it makes more sense on a shared hosting environment where you want to keep sites separate from eachother
the standard apache setup is to keep the file owner separate from apache
but if all the code is running as apache, then all the sites are running as the same user
so they can all read eachothers files
one gets popped, and the whole server is compromised
also, using fastcgi gets php out of apache's process space, which means everything runs a bit leaner
you can do more with less memory
@tylerl Ahaaa! Now I know why on some servers an LFI vulnerability allows me to see other sites' files and on other servers it doesn't.
cause php is crazy-inefficient
@Adnan primary difference is how skilled and knowledgeable the admin is
for many people, just getting the damn thing to work is the pinnacle of their career
@tylerl Which in most cases, as we all know, isn't.
I've had the flu for about 3 days now. It made me think about how incredible the virus causing it is. One of it's main symptoms is one of its spreading mechanisms.
It makes you sneeze, and it spreads with your fluids.
It's like if an STD does something to raise your libido.
Brilliant!
@Adnan ....
08:55
Any plans for throwing a party when the Close Vote review queue at SO reaches 100k?
@Adnan not really
I'll make a Meta.SO post about it when it's around 95k
you do that
@tylerl SE should send out some collectables to all members who have more than 18,200 rep points.
@Adnan you got the last swag pack they sent, right?
or was that before your time?
08:58
@tylerl I hate you.
It was just like a t-shirt, flashlight, and stuff like that.
@tylerl I've only been here for 11 months.
@tylerl Pens?
I think they sent it out to like their top 100 or something. Pertty easy to git
I don't remember a pen
@tylerl I want a t-shirt. It'd be nice to wear for parties.
you've seen them I assume. It's blue w/ the logo on it
09:00
@tylerl Yup. I believe @RoryA posted a photo of himself wearing the t-shirt and drinking whiskey.
I think I might have 2 of them.
some other contest about edits or something
@tylerl What the hell?! When do these things happen?
and I'm sure @kalina would have won.
Found it!
Jul 9 at 21:48, by Rory McCune
user image
Whoa! I also found this. What the.. @RoryA
Nov 7 '12 at 15:54, by Rory Alsop
user image
09:38
I would love to have a T-shirt like that
next year I'm ordering a pack for Brucon
 
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11:02
Last three ISS commanders ... Movember style
@Adnan Nice ... I have a similar "design" :)
@tylerl @Adnan the logo has changed so they should send out more swag! To the page1/page2 users! Like me!
SWAG
@ManishEarth +1. You should ping an SE employee about it.
That's what your mods are for :>
Unfortunately, @kalina doesn't get any
....maybe fortunately
11:21
@ManishEarth At the rate she's going she will have a better chance at getting swag than @Simon.
poor @Simon
@ManishEarth Or, better yet, to the first 3 rows except the last person from the 3rd row.
That's a pretty general rule.
why the hate on @tylerl?
@Adnan Don't make me start upvoting all of @tylerl's answer. ;)
@ManishEarth Honestly, I'm just scared he's gonna out-rep me.
11:28
hah
@TerryChia Oh no, please do. I'd love to see how sad he'd be the next day when he sees -200 (serial upvoting reversed)
@Adnan I'll upvote 5. @kalina will upvote 5. I'll reverse a few of my votes on your answers. :P
@TerryChia Oh you molo!
@TerryChia The only reason I don't like him is because he looks like a Swedish teenager.
11:32
@Adnan I'm sure @Simon is a huge fan of him.
There's only ONE Canadian teen pop star I like!
@TerryChia Hanna Montana?
@Adnan Robin Sparkles. I forgot you don't watch HIMYM.
@TerryChia hahaha I was about to comment the same
11:51
Is Daniel a unisex name?
I find it interesting that it's the #34 password in the Adobe leaked passwords list.
 
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13:05
@Gilles Have a second look at my answer, I edited it. The problem is deeper than what I initially thought.
Giving it a second thought, it is indeed a very big problem for whichever service that uses such redirection.
@Everybody: Please have a look at this question and my answer
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Q: Security of an initial redirection from http://example.com to https://example.com

GillesSuppose that http://example.com/<foo> systematically redirects to https://example.com/<foo>. I enter http://example.com in my browser's URL bar, and I see a page load and the URL bar now displays exactly https://example.com/ (no Unicode hack, no whitespace hack, etc.). I verify that this is the c...

If I'm looking at this correctly, this is a gigantic problem.
Any ideas, comments, solutions, etc. are greatly appreciated.
@Adnan The feminine is Danielle.
@ScottPack Is it pronounced the same way?
@Adnan Not that I've heard, no. You would have Daniel (Dan-yul) and Danielle (Dan-yell)
@ScottPack In le French it's pronounced exactly the same.
@ScottPack Aha! Well that's interesting. Thanks.
13:14
I've never heard of Michele as a boy's name. Neither Cleo nor Jan.
@Simon So wrong. Cool, cool.
@ScottPack Same for Michel/Michelle.
So yup, you pretty much have to ask "dude or chick"?
@Simon Hmmm.. that has some interested consequences.
Those names are dying though, never met a young Michel(le)/Daniel(le).
Interesting. In English Michelle and Michael are pronounced very differently.
In Finnish, 'he' and 'she' are the same word 'hän'. Fun stuff when hearing Finns speak English and say "I was with my girlfriend, he made me go shopping".
13:17
Michael == My-k-el. As opposed to Michelle == Muh-sh-ell
@ScottPack Well, these 2 are pronounced differently too.
@Adnan Similarly having to assign genders to objects is hard for English speakers.
@Simon I should say that Michel (the boys name) is pronounced the same as Michael.
Although without the a is rare.
@ScottPack Really? Le weird.
Similarly Rachel and Rachael are pronounced the same.
@ScottPack Ya.
13:19
Ray-chul
@Simon So's your face.
@TerryChia mirror
@ScottPack Wait a second! So, when you hear 'car' do you think masculine or feminine? Or when you hear 'star', 'moon', 'sun'.
@Adnan Gender neutral.
@ScottPack It's extremely difficult for me to imagine the concept.
13:21
Some people ascribe gender attributes to inanimate objects.
Culturally water going vessels are always referred to as she, but traditionally only if it's sufficiently big.
Wow. I never thought it's actually that difficult. I'm trying really hard to strip away the gender from any object around me. It's impossible.
So a sailboat might be called 'she' but you would almost never hear a row or bassboat called this way.
@Adnan Meh, I don't find it hard at all.
A computer monitor is feminine, the ceiling is masculine.
@Adnan "Screen" is masculine in French.
13:23
Most of the time if someone assigns a gender to a car it's going to be female, but not always and that's usually only if the person has a sufficiently strong emotional connection to vehicles.
@Simon I don't know, I just find it very interesting.
@ScottPack Jiha! I heard about such thing.
@ScottPack My wiener is feminine.
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@Simon Makes sense.
@ScottPack Oh okay okay, I think I know an example.
When you say "Visit our sister site".
When not "our brother site"?
I don't know, and that's an odd one.
We also have a notion of "Sister Cities".
13:24
@Adnan In my case, because the latter just sounds weird. :P
I never actually thought about objects and gender actually.
However, even though we use the word Sister in those situations, I've never ascribed a particular gender to it.
@ScottPack To me, city is feminine, so it makes sense.
I think of it as an alternative use of the word Sister.
What does Jiha mean? Google is failing me.
To remember if "error" is masculine or feminine in French, I go like: "The error is feminine".
Very good trick, I'm proud of it.
@TerryChia I think the other one sounds weird because we've been hearing it all the time like that.
@ScottPack Say it like "Yiha!", it's another version of "Aha, I see, I think I know what you mean, I think I agree with you".
13:26
Intereseting.
> In the United Kingdom, the term "twin towns" is most commonly used; the term "sister cities" is generally used for agreements with towns and cities in the Americas.[1][7] In mainland Europe, the most commonly used terms are; "twin towns", "partnership towns ", "partner towns" and "friendship towns".
@Adnan Language of origin?
@Adnan Yeah. For me it's really a "I have always seen it used this way so it just sounds right" thing. I never actually assigned genders to objects actually.
@ScottPack I think some Nordic language. My bet is on Swedish.
I picked it up from a Swedish friend.
@Adnan Wait, you have Swedish friends? :P
@TerryChia Everyone has Swedish friends, except me.
Because I don't have any.
@Simon That statement is untrue in most parts of Asia.
13:29
@TerryChia Asia doesn't even exist, it's a legend.
@Simon Just like your wiener.
In Spanish class I found the object gender thing difficult. It was even taught as rote memorization.
@TerryChia Yes, it's legendary.
@TerryChia I'm ashamed to admit, yes.
@Adnan Cute. When I was searching for that all that came up were proper names and Jihad.
13:30
@ScottPack Hehehehe
@ScottPack Be careful, somebody might flag that.
I'll flag your face.
@ScottPack Oh yeah, flag it.
As hard as you can.
@ScottPack Yeah, the NSA probably has you on some list now
@DavidFreitag If that's all it takes...
@ScottPack Previous experiences showed us that if you mention the J word, you get a flag. Also, the M word.
Fuck that!
13:31
@Adnan Mozilla?
@ScottPack Yup, that one.
@ScottPack Flagged as offensive.
@Simon So's your face.
@TerryChia I'm gonna bomb Singapore.
that would probably do it too :-)
13:33
@Simon Aaaand you're on the no-fly list.
@Adnan Damn it.
Ok. So those Dyson Airblade hand dryers? Those things are amazballs. Just brilliant.
afternoon all... I see you have been appreciating my Movember pic from last year. Fun thing - 5 days into this year and I already have a better one.
pics or it didn't happen?
13:33
@RoryAlsop your what?
my Mo....
obviously
@RoryAlsop See, that's the reason why I don't bother with Movember. Veterans destroy us, youngsters, in a few days.
Clearly.
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Q: Draytek Vigor 2920 Block Facebook for a Group of clients

Newbiein my Office I need to block the access to Facebook for a Group of User, not for all! Do you have any ideas? (Hope you understand my question)

I don't do Movember because I'm afraid of shaving.
13:34
Anyone see the irony in my close vote? :P
I am notoriously bad at growing a tache - my most junior team member can grow, in one day, a better tache than mine after 4 weeks
@RoryAlsop Oh, that's "No shave November" here in the states.
@TerryChia I do, and I'm with you :D
@DavidFreitag You mean Movember?
I'll post my Movember pic (it's gonna be epic, by the way) on December 1st.
13:35
@DavidFreitag No, it's Movember.
I'm sure @Simon will like it
Some of the girls in the team are waiting for Vanuary...google it (NSFW)
@Adnan Good :D
@RoryAlsop Oh lawd, please no?
@RoryAlsop shudders
hahahaha - I'm hoping they were joking
13:36
I've had at least a VanDyke since 1994. I'm not sure what my chin would look like.
@RoryAlsop You're an evil person
(mostly)
@Scott - in order to do this right, I shaved off the soul patch / van dyke as well on 31st Oct
That's exactly what I'm afeard of.
@RoryAlsop What! No! How can you shave the soul patch?!
Da heck is van dyke? I don't wanna google this.
13:37
It'll come back
@Adnan He's secretly a ginger.
I have shaved it off twice in the last 18 years
@Simon Goatee+Moustache.
@ScottPack Ah, sick. I dig it.
@ScottPack Oi, only a ginger can call a ginger ginger.
13:37
Been rocking the goatee for a few years.
@RoryAlsop Wedding?
@ScottPack I dig short boxed beard too.
Nope - my wife obviously dislikes my chin - the goatee is her idea
@RoryAlsop Haha
13:39
@Simon In high school I totally rocked the mutton chops and goatee.
@ScottPack Oh boy. Mutton chops is horrible.
@Simon I was 16. What do you expect?
I blame the Tour de France
at 16 I didn't have the option of growing facial hair. It's actually relatively recent for me :-)
I had a mohawk, though, if that counts
@ScottPack Yeah. It seems your generation was making bad decisions at 16. However, there are a bunch of single mothers @ 20 y/o of my generation.
13:40
@RoryAlsop Typical Northern European.
Imagine if I had a kid, wow.
Poor child.
@Simon You'd be a horrible parent, of course.
mohawks are cool @Adnan - especially in blue, and almost a foot tall
@Adnan It wouldn't even be funny.
@RoryAlsop Oh, I mean the inability to grow facial hair until early 30s
@Simon To me, yes.
13:42
@Simon When I graduated high school one of my classmates was pregnant and one of the freshmen was married. That was it.
@ScottPack Sigh. Any idea if they're still together?
When I left school, none of my class were pregnant, but it wasn't from lack of trying....
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So many things to star!
@RoryAlsop When was that? 1817?
The only "wadaphoque" thing I remember was a 17 y/o girl going out with 30 y/o dude.
13:44
BC
So so many things to star!
@Simon No clue. That was like 15 years ago.
@ScottPack They definitely divorced.
@RoryAlsop Both classmates?
@Simon My home county hasn't quite developed electronic records yet so I can't easily tell you.
@ScottPack Facebook stalking!
13:46
Speaking of, found my profile yet?
@ScottPack I gave up.
To be fair, I tried once for 5 mins on my phone.
Any experimented stalker would use a computer.
Where's that dude Scorpion? I want to create a virtual profile of him like one of my French girls.
aka, @Simon
Probably pouting in a corner.
@ScottPack Found it. Pretty easy with pipl.com
@TerryChia I wouldn't have thought it would be much effort.
@RoryAlsop This is the only Vanuary I can find. vanuary.com
13:49
@ScottPack SFW?
@TerryChia SIR, YOU GOTTA SHARE.
@Adnan It's a documentary about a guy living a month in his van.
@ScottPack The privacy settings are working though, can't see much besides your profile pic. :P
@Simon Only if @ScottPack ok's it. :P
@ScottPack So, @RoryA was just trolling us.
Otherwise, use pipl.com. It took all of 3 minutes...
13:51
:D
@Simon That one is more attractive than the one here
@TerryChia I'm at work so I don't wanna use it here. I'm gonna forget about it when I get home.
@Adnan I highly doubt that's possible.
@Simon Forget about stalking your beloved @ScottPack? I highly doubt that.
@TerryChia I swear I do.
Also, I want to congratulate you lot. It's been two whole days since we had drama in here.
13:54
@Adnan That dude also works in security. He's tried to linkedin me.
@ScottPack I'm sure he does.
Department Head - Cyber-Security Assessment & Compliance Verification at Pacific Gas & Electric Company
Social engineering must be his game
I have no problem giving him a key to my office
or my heart.
@ScottPack So he's the better version of you basically? According to @Adnan. :P
THERE'S AN APPLE CHUNK STUCK BETWEEN 2 OF MY TEETH
HELP
13:55
@Simon Pull the teeth out.
You guys are terrible.
@ScottPack Is it okay to post a link to your Facebook here?
I'd love see @Simon start actively stalking you
I'm enjoying watching @Simon struggle.
@Adnan Ffs, it's private!
@ScottPack YOU LIKE IT? Oh, you!
@Simon Okay, Simon. Here's a hint.. 3958
13:57
That's a terrible hint.
Phoquing phoque. I'll just use whatever @TerryChia linked me if I think about it tonight.
I'm trying to get the chunk out with a pencil. Very professional.
@Simon Well simon, I'm affraid we will have to put you down. I'm sorry but it's for the better good (especially ours)
@LucasKauffman pls no
@LucasKauffman Finally
@Simon I think i have a hammer around, i bet we can get it with that
13:58
@DavidFreitag I bet we can too.
@DavidFreitag Don't you have a thermite gun around?
OOOOO thermite gun!
@TerryChia As a matter or fact, yes. Yes i do.
@TerryChia Yes! It should burn the chunk before the teeth melt!
@DavidFreitag Come again?
13:59
@DavidFreitag Wouldn't that work better than the hammer? Use the right tool for the job and all that...

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