The DMZ

ManishEarth

16:00

We just use ~~big words~~ confusing acronyms so we sound like we do

kalina

at least with gaming I can blag it

Terry Chia

@kalina "Don't roll your own", "bcrypt", "hashing". String together plausible sounding lines for questions tagged passwords and you will be at 3k in no time.

ManishEarth

If you ECDSA your NAT, there is a significant chance of the SHA-512 ARP spoof over the TLS salted NOP sled

@TerryChia hahaha that's what I did. That and web security. CSRF/XSS FTW!

kalina

@ManishEarth bits of my brain are now all over the wall

Terry Chia

@ManishEarth That sounds suspiciously like Steve Gibson.

ManishEarth

16:02

@TerryChia been there, done that

Oct 13 at 6:22, by ManishEarth

I should get in on this. I know enough about security to sound smart even when spouting crap

Oct 13 at 6:25, by ManishEarth

"So, if we take the HMAC and enable HSTS for it, we can get a tenfold increment in security due to the addition of an extra symmetric ECDSA key pair that encrypts the SSL layer"

kalina

woo

I think I've found a bug in the system?

ManishEarth

... which was in the context of Gibson

kalina

editing CWs bypasses the queue regardless of rep

also, I just got the excavator badge

ManishEarth

@kalina ...that's the point of CW.

You don't get +2 for the edits either

Terry Chia

@kalina Isn't that status-by-design?

kalina

16:04

@ManishEarth yes but surely it should still be bound to the privileges system

otherwise any old pony could just come along and edit all your community wikis to say "penis"

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ManishEarth

@kalina nope. There is a lower privilege threshhold for editing CW

physics.stackexchange.com/help/privileges/edit-community-wiki

100

kalina

INTERESTING

ManishEarth

This way, you can edit CW posts on meta as well, where there is no suggested edit queue

kalina

and I search for community wiki's how?

cw:1?

ManishEarth

is:wiki or wiki:1

forgot

RTFM

Terry Chia

16:05

@kalina It gets bumped to the top of the front page anyway, so any abuse will be detected fast.

kalina

@ManishEarth there is a suggested edit queue on meta, it only effects tag wiki edits though

ManishEarth

@kalina yes that.

kalina

@ManishEarth I never rtfm

that sounds like a waste of life

2

ManishEarth

@TerryChia Editing everything to penis is not abuse. It's an improvement

6

kalina

why rtfm when I can just say something stupid in an internet chat room and get corrected

3

ManishEarth

16:06

Unless it's a Bear answer. In that case you get mauled.

Terry Chia

@kalina That reminds me of something.

Let's see if I can find it.

Nope, couldn't find it.

Simon

oi lads

Terry Chia

It was something along the lines of "Why read the man pages when I can just say something stupid in a linux forum and have 100 geeks correct me".

Simon

@kalina I rtfm'd yesterday and it was quite helpful.

ManishEarth

@TerryChia hahahaha

kalina

16:15

@TerryChia I agree with this approach entirely

ManishEarth

This dude uses 69 as his placeholder number instead of 42:

But why 69 and not 42??? — gniourf_gniourf 2 hours ago

(well, the answerer not the commenter)

And check out revision#2. "Censored explicit language". Hilarious

kalina

nothing wrong with 69

my mission to edit all of the things has ended already, too much effort to find the genuinely terrible posts

Adnan

16:59

@Thomas If/when you have some time, could you please check my math in the 3rd paragraph of this security.stackexchange.com/questions/44821/…

Lucas Kauffman

my blog is now protected by CloudFlare!

Adnan

@LucasKauffman Now those evil DDoSers can't harm you.

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan It's just also my CDN

to get better page speed and put less stress on my webserver

@Adnan can you give me the ip for cloud101.eu ?

because I'm not sure it has propagated

Adnan

Got it?

Adnan

17:26

I'm, for some reason, proud of this answer. I demand upboats!

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A: What does the email header-line "message opened by mailclient" mean?

I tried to filter Google results for "message opened by mailclient" as follows: Jan 1, 2008 – Jan 1, 2009 Jan 1, 2009 – Jan 1, 2010 Jan 1, 2010 – Jan 1, 2011 Jan 1, 2011 – Jan 1, 2012 Jan 1, 2012 – Jan 1, 2013 Jan 1, 2013 – Oct 31, 2013 Looking into the results, you'll find something interest...

Lamia

A friend of mine exchanged mobiles with his father and guess what? he found all his fathers conversations on whats app even after he logged in with his number not his fathers. :O

Who's to blame

Adnan

@Lamia Obama.

Lamia

@Adnan I jumped from the chair when I heard the notification, not sure why :P

He needs to call whats app then

Adnan

It's one of those
A- Your friend isn't telling you the full story.
B- Your friend doesn't know what he's doing.

Lamia

Maybe B because I've seen it

Adnan

17:34

@Lamia No no, I'm not saying that it didn't happen. Your friend just isn't telling you the full story.

On a few occasions, I've seen people cross-logging in to Whatsapp. Same mobile, different account. Same account, different mobiles. Never seen this issue.

Lamia

@Adnan What could be missing from the story

Adnan

@Lamia Your friend clearly forgot to sign out of his father's account.

Lamia

@Adnan How could he log in from his account if he didn't log out?

Adnan

@Lamia So, he was fully logged in to his account and still able to see his father's messages?

Lamia

@Adnan That's exactly what happened to him

This is why -I think- I'm surprised

Adnan

17:37

@Lamia Well, that's interesting.

Lamia

Maybe there was a synchronization problem

Adnan

@Lamia There shouldn't be any synchronization with Whatsapp. They claim they don't save messages on their servers.

Lamia

@Adnan claim

Adnan

@Lamia Uhhh.. mmm.. are you..ummm

Lamia

Maybe not, maybe the fathers conversations were stored on the mobile and whatsapp did something wrong with retrieving the conv

Adnan

17:41

To sustain such claim, they will not enable synchronization. Whether they actually save on the server or not is irrelevant.

Lamia

or maybe it has something to do with the mobile itself

Adnan

@Lamia Yup, I've just tested this. I can reproduce your friend's experience

Lamia

@Adnan Then it's a mobile problem

Adnan

@Lamia Well, I don't think so. I can reproduce it.

I removed Whatsapp, installed it again, and logged in with my gf's account.

Whatsapp asked me if I want to restore the messages, I clicked "Restore" now I'm logged in as her and still can see my old messages.

@Lamia Hah! Apparently, it's the documented behaviour whatsapp.com/faq/en/android/20887921

Mystery solved.

Lamia

Wow!

So my friend wanted to see his fathers messages

Adnan

17:49

@Lamia "by mistake"

Lamia

@Adnan Can the father do the same thing with the sons phone?

Adnan

@Lamia I guess.

I find the dynamics of this relationship very interesting. You, the guy, and his father.

Lamia

@Adnan I don't get you

:p

Adnan

@Lamia A son looking at his father's messages, and the father might retaliate by looking at his son's. The son, your friend, possibly lying to you.

It's just all so very interesting.

Lamia

The father doesn't know that the son saw his messages

Adnan

17:54

@Lamia Ooooh! Even more fun!

Lamia

The son had to steal his father's phone to check if any of his messages were there :P

Adnan

@Lamia I feel bad for being entertained by this.

Nah, who am I kidding. I never feel bad.

Lamia

@Adnan LOL you have to

Adnan

What the hell?! This is the second time this happens today. OP comments thanking me for my helpful answer and just walks away. Come on, dude! Gimme le upboats!

@Lamia Why?

Lamia

the email header thing question?

Adnan

17:57

Damn it! That "leesh" slipped here.

Lamia

@Adnan LOL, bs. Only serial killers never feel bad ;P

Adnan

@Lamia I'm not saying I'm psychopath, but being a psychopath doesn't mean you have to be serial killer.

You can have a very normal life, normal job, a family, and whatnot.

Lamia

@Adnan Hahahah, I was joking

Adnan

@Lamia Joking aside, I don't really remember the last time I felt guilty about anything.

Just like with the human sexuality, psychopathy is also a spectrum. Each one of us falls on one point of the spectrum.

Lamia

@Adnan That's either because you have not done anything to feel guilty for or u've made a lot of things that made u forget how to feel guilty :p

And where did you fall?

Adnan

18:06

@Lamia That would be too revealing for a public chat room. On both fronts.

Lamia

@Adnan I won't ask what does each front have. I don't know much about psychopathy

But I just took a quiz lol.

Adnan

@Lamia Hahahahaha.. there's a quiz for that?

Lamia

@Adnan www5.psychcentral.com/quizzes/psychopathy.htm If that's what you mean

Rory Alsop

@Adnan they definitely do save the messages on their server. I changed phones, and a short update later, all my message history was on my new phone - piped direct from WhatsApp

Adnan

@RoryAlsop They've said it on multiple occasions, they don't save the messages on their servers after delivery. Android and iPhone, however, do have syncing features for Whatsapp (enabled by default, IIRC)

Rory Alsop

18:15

facebook.com/eriktricity - - has possibly the most wonderful set of Bitstrips ever. I didn't know what they were until he introduced me to them. And they are still annoying but at least he makes me laugh.

Adnan

@Lamia Whoa! First time I see such thing. Hmmm.. I'll fill it

Lamia

@Adnan They are not usually accurate, but my result was sufficient. I guess

Adnan

@Lamia It said I scored 16.

What does that mean?

Oh wait, they have the explanation next to it

Lamia

@Adnan 13-17: Moderate to minor Psychopathic tendencies :p

oops

Lucas Kauffman

doesn't surprise me

Adnan

18:18

@Lamia Well, I guess that confirms what I've always thought.

Lamia

@Adnan I got 8, should I be proud ?

Adnan

@RoryAlsop No idea what those are. Googling...

Lucas Kauffman

I scored a 1

Lamia

@LucasKauffman Because you knew if you answered all questions with Not me you'll get 1 :P

Adnan

@Lamia I see no reason for taking pride of something with which you were born.

Lamia

18:21

@Adnan You are right

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan do you care for people?

Adnan

@LucasKauffman What do you mean?

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan just want to know if you are a real psychopath :p

@Adnan have you ever killed someone?

Lamia

@LucasKauffman Oh hello doctor :P

Lucas Kauffman

which was more out of fun than necessity to survive?

Adnan

18:22

I think it's the socially acceptable behaviour to show that you care for others, to show them that you relate to what they feel. By not doing that, one will be excluded from the social context.

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan which means you do not do it naturally

because you are over analysing

Adnan

So, in order to get what I want, yes, I do care for people.

Lucas Kauffman

that's typical sociopathic behavior :p

Adnan

@LucasKauffman Damn it, Lucas! Psychopath doesn't mean a killer.

Stop watching Dexter!

Lamia

LOL

Lucas Kauffman

18:23

@Adnan no that's the extreme of psychopath

Adnan

Or, continue watching it, but know that fact.

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan most CEOs show psychopathic tendencies

Adnan

@LucasKauffman No no, you can be a complete psychopath with no desire to kill.

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan yet you don't deny taking a life

Lamia

Does anybody watch Person of Interest here?

Lucas Kauffman

18:25

@Lamia yes

Adnan

@Lamia I have watched 6 episodes.

Or wait, 5

Lucas Kauffman

I like finch

Lamia

@LucasKauffman I like him a lot

@Adnan Why did you stop

Adnan

@Lamia Because it's a bad show.

Lucas Kauffman

it's not

it's reality

Adnan

18:26

Yeah, the premise is new. That's it.

Lucas Kauffman

the NSA has a giant machine which spies on us!

Lamia

@Adnan Yeah because the man hates to kill ? :P

Lucas Kauffman

COINCIDENCE, I THINK NOT!

Adnan

Acting is mediocre at best

Effects, so bad.

Each 2 minutes there's at least 1 cliche.

Finally, it's always that he's the interesting silent dude who saves everybody and he's the last hope for everybody he meets.

How fucking original is that?

Lamia

LOL okay don't ruin the show for me I already enjoy it

Lucas Kauffman

18:29

@Lamia you should try out graceland

Lamia

@LucasKauffman New series, 7.5. Not bad

Adnan

Everybody, watch Black Mirror.

One of the best TV shows I've ever seen.

Each episode is a completely new and original idea.

Lucas Kauffman

talking psychopaths

Adnan

I think it's only 8 episode, the whole show.

Lucas Kauffman

my favorite villain => Hannibal Lecter

Adnan

18:30

Brillaint!

Lamia

I'm not sure from where I should start

Adnan

@LucasKauffman Yup, that's an example of a person who desires eating people. Being a psychopath, he has no breaks, and he acts on it.

Psychopathy doesn't give you the desire to kill people, it just removes the breaks stopping you from acting on your desires.

Lamia

Isn't he everyone's favorite villain

Adnan

@Lamia Start by watching the best TV show ever

Black Mirror (TV series)

Black Mirror is a British television drama series created by Charlie Brooker and shows the dark side of life and technology. The series is produced by Zeppotron for Endemol. Regarding the programme's content and structure, Brooker noted, "each episode has a different cast, a different setting, even a different reality. But they're all about the way we live now – and the way we might be living in 10 minutes' time if we're clumsy." An Endemol press release describes the series as "a hybrid of The Twilight Zone and Tales of the Unexpected which taps into our contemporary unease about our ...

Lamia

@Adnan added to my watchlist.

Adnan

18:33

Oh, so it's only 6 episodes in total.

Lamia

Great, it won't take time from me :p

Adnan

It will, literally, shakes your view of reality.

Lamia

My favorites are GOT and SHERLOCK so far. but I enjoy science-fiction, I will see what that series got

Adnan

@Lamia Whoa! GoT! Interesting.

Do they show it in KSA?

Who am I kidding? Of course not

Lamia

@Adnan lol!

If they're gonna show it, the episode will be shorten to 5 minutes only

Adnan

18:37

@kalina Do you watch Game of Thrones?

Lamia

oh god it's late and I've not finish studying yet. Wish me luck with -IT Ethics- I've exam tomorrow -.-

Lucas Kauffman

I love GOT

it has a good story, good acting

and Emilia Clarke goes naked!

several times!

@Adnan can you read my skype messages?

nvm

kalina

@Adnan no

Lucas Kauffman

@Lamia I just want to let you know that I find you very pleasant

@kalina you should watch it it's pretty good actually

Adnan

@Lamia I'd like to repeat what @Lucas said as well.

@LucasKauffman For some reason, I received 6 messages from you at the same time. One of us is having connection issues.

kalina

18:48

@LucasKauffman mmmh

Adnan

@LucasKauffman I don't think she would, you know, because of the porn.

Lucas Kauffman

what porn?

it's a bit of nudity but that's about it

like with every series of HBO

Adnan

@LucasKauffman It's still exploits women blah blah blah

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan "exploits women"

you've got a freakn woman with freakn dragons taking over the freakn world

Adnan

@LucasKauffman I don't know what mindless feminists think.

@LucasKauffman That's because men want to see that. Ahh.. you just don't get it, do you?!

Lucas Kauffman

18:53

regardless I know enough women who watch porn <.<

Adnan

@LucasKauffman Well, most women do. Just like most men do.

It's a normal part of our modern life.

Lucas Kauffman

well I know some women who don't, but I know a few who do

well whatever floats your boat I guess

Adnan

Woohoo! Sauna time.

Later.

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan sweat it

kalina

19:16

STILL BORED

Simon

19:32

gz

tylerl

@kalina this seems to be a common theme

kalina

20:01

Well, I am bored, nobody seems to want to do anything about it

Scott Pack

I don't think I've ever done a sauna. Seems like it would be nice for the pores.

Griffin

How is everyone?

Wait.... can I have this gravatar?

Scott Pack

Looks rather icky.

Rory Alsop

20:20

Saunas rock. In proper sauna countries. In the UK they are unfortunately associated with a rather old business

@adnan - definitely Black Mirror

tylerl

@Griffin BRAAAINS

Griffin

@tylerl Yup

tylerl

20:45

@Griffin Due to some scientific research conducted by @Adnan / @Svetlana, we know that gravatars showing a female face get significantly more profile views than that same profile would normally get without the female picture.

Griffin

@tylerl a) You guys go hard with your research and b) That's good right?

tylerl

@Griffin Talk to adnan. It was all him.

Simon

21:08

What the phoque, @Griffin?

Griffin

Hmm?

Simon

21:26

Yo gravatar.

Griffin

What about it?

kalina

erm

I'm not sure that's appropriate

Griffin

It is pretty.

It's only inappropriate if you make it so.

Otherwise it's a zombie girl drooling.

kalina

she's not a zombie

and that isn't drool

and why do I have a salty taste in my mouth

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Griffin

Look at her eyes

And it is drool;

kalina

21:31

@Griffin looks like she painted her eyes on

no zombie would have the required motor skills to apply that much face paint

Griffin

Was pre-infectiomn

Simon

I'm not attracted by a girl drooling.

kalina

in The Bridge, 27 secs ago, by RhysW

@kalina reverse image searching suggests its what you think

game's up

Griffin

It's a fetish

GnomeSlice

@Griffin Pretty sure that's jizz

Griffin

21:37

@GnomeSlice Nope.

Simon

I didn't want to pay 10$ + taxes for a damn auxiliary coupler so now I'm trying to tape them together.

Rory Alsop

@Adnan I didn't know either, because I'm not a facebook fan. But apparently they annoy everyone over the age of 15

GnomeSlice

blitzlunar.bandcamp.com/album/triptunes

RhysW

@Griffin Just a heads up, the image isn't generally liked, but nothing is being done as of now. Just a heads up in case it escalates in the future!

Rory Alsop

@Griffin I think it might be - a quick google image search suggests so. Although it could just be milk :-)

Griffin

21:45

@RoryAlsop Google search of what?

RhysW

@RoryAlsop reverse image search turns up some...interesting sources

Madara Uchiha

@Griffin Of your image, obviously :)

Griffin

@MadaraUchiha No like, what does it suggest.

Madara Uchiha

@Griffin Exactly what you think it suggests.

Shog9

Ever eat a whole tablespoon of powdered citric acid?

Griffin

21:47

@MadaraUchiha And that is?

Rory Alsop

@Shog9 not yet. Is it fun?

Griffin

@Shog9 Sounds painful

Shog9

@RoryAlsop I expect @Griffin would think so

Madara Uchiha

11 mins ago, by GnomeSlice

@Griffin Pretty sure that's jizz

Griffin

@MadaraUchiha LMGTFY it to me?

RhysW

21:48

@Griffin Right click on your image, search google for this image

tylerl

The dripping liquid appears to have been added in post-production

Simon

AH! I made it

I'm a sound engineer.

Madara Uchiha

@Griffin goo.gl/0PUUON

Simon

(not)

Griffin

@MadaraUchiha Lot o russian

Madara Uchiha

21:49

Go down a bit

Rory Alsop

@MadaraUchiha TWSS (sorry)

Simon

@RoryAlsop Hahaha.

Madara Uchiha

@RoryAlsop T'was a low hanging fruit.

Simon

@RoryA for president.

Griffin

@MadaraUchiha golfmkv.com/forums/…

We're good

Madara Uchiha

21:52

@Griffin Regardless, your profile image is controversial at best, and was flagged as such by multiple users.

Would you mind changing it yourself to something more... decent? :)

Simon

Since when is @kalina considered as multiple users?

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Griffin

@MadaraUchiha Yours will scare little kids....

Madara Uchiha

@Simon Who told you kalina was the only one who flagged? :)

@Griffin Luckily, the minimum age to enter the site (and the chat rooms) is 13.

Griffin

@MadaraUchiha Exactly.

Simon

@MadaraUchiha All I know is that regulars here usually don't flag stuff.

Madara Uchiha

21:56

Alright, that's enough drama for me. I'm going back to battling Hashirama. Yall have a good one.

Griffin

I linked the image in my bio so if someone gets uber butthurt over it they should at least see that/.

David Freitag

Why are we complaining about his Gravatar? I don't see any genitalia or any chesticles? Why should it matter what it looks like?

Griffin

^My point. If you interpret something as dirty that's your fault.

Simon

Because it offends religious people.

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