The DMZ

Simon

19:00

@RoryMcCune Haha.

AviD

in short, it was a ceremonial situation, where the woman spits in the shoe of her dead husband's brother, if he refuses to marry her.

so not very different from what you described, but just enough.

Simon

@AviD You know weird stuff.

AviD

@Simon and yet I dont know your face.

Simon

My face doesn't want to know you either, apparently you like to do nasty stuff to faces.

AviD

@Simon is that what your mom told you?

Scott Pack

19:03

ahem Bam.

AviD

@Adnan why not?

Simon

Asshole. Here's what you did to a face once:

AviD

hehehe nice

Simon

Lucky Simon drops his phone on the floor, face up.

I swear this phone could survive a nuclear bomb.

AviD

could it survive your mom sitting on it?

Simon

19:12

I'm still surprised that you have electricity in Israel.

tylerl

@Adnan

cause he cares

AviD

@Simon hmm? whyzat now?

we still use electricity, if thats what you mean.

we just have innovative ways of creating it.

Simon

@AviD I'm surprised that you have access to electricity.

Does your house have a roof?

AviD

Is a Canadian trying to mock Israel as a 3rd world country....?? :-0

Simon

Never.

tylerl

19:15

@AviD I think he's trying to say that he'd expect Israel to be running on anti-matter energy by now, given the rate of things.

Simon

lulz

AviD

@tylerl that was only in that one book.

Scott Pack

Maybe not quite 3rd world....

David Freitag

Does anyone know of any decent windows-based bug tracking software?

tylerl

@DavidFreitag any web-based one will work on windows.

which includes pretty much all of them

AviD

19:18

@DavidFreitag why does the OS matter? whats wrong with web based?

Lucas Kauffman

you just need to set it up

David Freitag

Ok, let me rephrase then. What is a good (free) bug tracking system

AviD

already been asked on SO and PSE....

Scott Pack

Trac, Bugzilla?

AviD

but I think for a good answer, you should be more specific of what you need, your setup, etc.

David Freitag

19:20

Oh fine, make me use google then

Lucas Kauffman

Redmine

CodesInChaos

@ThomasPornin We can only hope that enough are distributed among mutually distrusting adversaries, US, China etc.

AviD

Fogbugz (up to 2 users) is free

github and bitbucket both have some form of bugtracker.

if you have msdn you can use TFS

CodesInChaos

and of course one can choose specific trusted nodes to route through if one is willing to put in the work

tylerl

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because I can Internet too

David Freitag

19:22

I was going for more of "In your expert opinion, which do you like best" But i guess that was my error to begin with.

tylerl

@DavidFreitag Github

Don't send me complaints, send me pull requests

David Freitag

@tylerl Heh, I'm not allowed to put this source into an external repo

Simon

I ain't even mad.

tylerl

@Simon bullshit

Simon

Yo, I ain't.

AviD

19:24

Fogbugz has one killer feature no others do: Evidence based scheduling.

tylerl

@Simon you're always mad.

Simon

I AIN'T EVEN MAD.

Scott Pack

@AviD Does it support Evidence based scheduling as well?

AviD

heh.

@DavidFreitag I will tell you this: Stay away from Quality Center and ClearQuest.

Simon

@ScottPack Can I have yo numba?

Scott Pack

19:28

@Simon To the Googles!

I'm sure you can find it.

You're a smart lad. Or at least not totally dumb.

AviD

@ScottPack I think there was just a closed question on that, no?

Simon

Nobody ever watched that sketch on MadTV and then people think that I'm a weirdo.

@ScottPack Oh, thank you.

I must login to view your full profile on LinkedIn?

Ain't nobody got time fo' dat, especially when you don't have an account.

@DavidFreitag, please tell me if we can find @ScottPack's phone number in there: linkedin.com/pub/scott-pack/3/689/76a

kalina

my most recent favourite passtime: typing @Rory in The DMZ

Simon

h bb

tylerl

you appear to have brought backup

Simon

19:35

Oh lawd, I just noticed too.

kalina

I may have mentioned that comment in more than one channel

because @Rory pings are the best kind of pings

Simon

Is it because they're ambiguous?

kalina

no it's like pulling the trigger and hitting targets all over the place

Simon

ok nurd

By the way, @DavidFreitag has something to ask you.

Thomas Pornin

@Simon Only one of them is ambiguous. The other is not.

Simon

19:37

@ThomasPornin Fair enough.

kalina

I find it ironic that a channel full of people who specialise in information security have the audacity to call me a "nurd"

Simon

@kalina To be fair, there's only ONE person here who would call you a nurd.

kalina

that's like @Simon calling me fat

tylerl

@kalina Simon's not... um...

Scott Pack

@kalina Please don't let that one be the standard by which we are measured.

Michael

19:38

@RoryAlsop thanks rory, reworked it so the answery stuff is now background material in the question

Simon

@kalina lul the day that I will be a fatso will be a very sad one.

@ScottPack :)

kalina

@ScottPack oh no, I measure you all by the standard of @Adnan

you're all doomed

Simon

o

Scott Pack

That's a true statement.

Simon

So is my love for you.

tylerl

19:47

@Simon true, or doomed?

or perhaps both

Simon

@tylerl I don't know, love is a very complicated thing.

tylerl

@Simon not that complicated

people are just bad at communicating

Simon

@tylerl Well, I do want to talk to him out of this but he doesn't want to give me his phone number.

tylerl

@Simon he told you where to find it

thats close enough

Simon

I don't love him that much.

It sounds like it would take a tiny bit of effort to find it.

And my shift is done. I'm no longer in love now. TTYL.

David Freitag

19:54

@AviD Looks like Bugzilla is where I'm headed.

@Simon Wat?

AviD

@DavidFreitag meh.

tylerl

@DavidFreitag Bugzilla is my least-favorite.

but it's got a silly amount of features

David Freitag

Well, then i need something that isn't GitHub for a fairly small project. Essentially I will be the only one who will be assigned tickets and i have no idea how many people will be contributing errors (could be as low as 5 or as many as 50)

Preferably something that is hosted on Linux seeing as i just started a lube install.

tylerl

@DavidFreitag you can use Bugzilla. That's fine. I just think it's a littel complicated.

AviD

@DavidFreitag didnt mention, but fogbugz limit of 2 free users does not include bug submissions.

tylerl

19:57

33 secs ago, by David Freitag

Preferably something that is hosted on Linux seeing as i just started a lube install.

A lube install?

please don't tell me what that is.

It's funnier this way.

AviD

@tylerl well, it would definitely help getting bugzilla set up.

David Freitag

@tylerl lubuntu.net

Nah, i just squirted a bunch of KY into the DVD tray and closed it.

It's making a weird fizzling sound now.

tylerl

So my buddy recently took a trip to the store. He had to get some petroleum jelly and some twine rope for part of a costume setup, some plastic wrap because he was out, and he picked up a banana because he was hungry.

Sometimes it would be nice if self-checkout was open late at night.

the lady at the regiser wasn't sure whether to ring him up or call the police

AviD

haha

its like that classic ebay xkcd

tylerl

Day six: 'The hell? Who mails a bobcat?'

AviD

20:07

yup.

tylerl

And the alt text refers to this:

You can do this one in every 30 times and still have 97% positive feedback.

AviD

heh, was just about to link that for you.

this also refers to that:

This also guarantees he won't be one of the ones to get a bobcat.

Rory McCune

20:46

This looks like it has the potential to do some damage... exploit-db.com/exploits/29290

remote code execution on apache/php (assuming it does what it says on the tin...)

deed02392

@Simon youtube.com/watch?v=1CHVVstR7F0

David Freitag

@deed02392 Oh. Melikie.

deed02392

so

ASIC miner dispatched

David Freitag

ASIC miner... what a waste of time..

And unless it was cheap, a waste of money.

deed02392

thanks @DavidFreitag

David Freitag

20:53

Well i guess, that is, if you are using it to mine bitcoins.. They could probably be repurposed somehow.

This is the only ASIC miner i would even consider getting: products.butterflylabs.com/homepage-new-products/…

deed02392

"This is a Pre-Order product which is not yet shipping."

TildalWave

21:13

Happy 40th Internet!

news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/10/…

Simon

@DavidFreitag You wanted to ask something to @kalina

deed02392

@ThomasPornin haha, awesome

Simon

@deed02392 That's my style.

deed02392

bah i'm tired

i work all day

then i make dinner

and i have to sleep cos i'm tired, then i start all over again

#livingfortheweekend

Simon

Me too except forget the "make dinner" part #livingwithparentsrockssometimes

deed02392

21:33

yea i live with parents too

both at work on a tuesday tho

David Freitag

@Simon Ah so you miss-pinged me? You bastard.

Simon

@DavidFreitag NO, I know that you wanted to ask her something.

David Freitag

@Simon Uhh. What?

Simon

Use your imagination.

David Freitag

sigh now i have to check the log for context.

Simon

21:39

Hint: it is starred.

deed02392

g'night guys

Simon

And most-likely by you.

I SAID TOO MUCH ALREADY

GN8

David Freitag

@deed02392 Night

@Simon I'm not using the chat client, i can't see the star wall

deed02392

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Oh and just to prove it's definitely me saying i'm going to sleep, and not some MITM (tut tut chat.SE on HTTP)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32)

iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJScCtPAAoJEEJyVCs9egLjcQMH/R0KRO33RL66GyXhxjFzNA4q
ZocTScWOUyJZ+T0VERHNHQR5yzKM66gNhl2stkTT8M9y+S/Pi4K36NE+RrP4/1ow
E6imtVC4w6Awp5S86e1yN6yWbwa6wUsX3aJJN5uWIgQDpUf2SxzIlyL5ZuFx5fpp
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YlrMpRCEqA1BilGjfGRMHjGMLM0+SwHAgDO9/x0i+eQZvDqHcLuT6i4ebvrEpLsJ

Simon

Not my problem.

David Freitag

21:41

@deed02392 lol

@Simon Are you talking about that "I'm not amazing" star that happened around lunchtime?

Simon

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

IF SHE SWALLOWS.

David Freitag

I know better than to ask @Kalina that.

kalina

...

David Freitag

Rather, i know better than to ask ANYONE that.

@Simon And no, twas not i that starred that comment.

Simon

@DavidFreitag So it means that there is another person who has a twisted mind just like us. Awesome.

tylerl

21:50

@Simon betcha it was her.

just to cause trouble

David Freitag

@Simon Everyone has a twisted mind, it's just us that choose to express it on the interwebs.

kalina

how could I star something I said?

learn2stackexchange, noob

tylerl

@kalina no, what Simon said

3 hours ago, by Simon

I should be fine as long as she swallows.

kalina

oh right

well, whatever

Simon

@kalina noooooooooooooob

kalina

21:51

#care

also, whether I swallow or not is none of your business

David Freitag

@kalina learn2stackexchange, noob.

Simon

I believe it is every man's business.

tylerl

@kalina the context was largely (more) innocent. But then again, it was simon.

David Freitag

@kalina Which is why i never even considered asking you.

Simon

^_^

kalina

21:52

there are a whole loads of answers I could give you to the top 10 questions you could ask but it would make no difference because you'll never get to experience any of it from me.

Simon

Well, that's the plan so I'm glad that how's things will go.

David Freitag

@kalina You never know, but the chances are probably somewhere in the 1 in a quadrillion range.

kalina

there is no chance, I would identify that you're from stack exchange and then the possibility would reduce to zero

Simon

There's absolutely no way that you'd know I'm studying Computer Science, my lady.

David Freitag

You would be able to pick me out of a crowd of a few thousand.

I'm the wrinkly old guy with "Thug Life" tattoo'd on his back.

Simon

21:56

LOL

And I'm a toy.

David Freitag

@Simon If by toy you mean "greasy Frenchman", then yes, you are quite a toy.

Simon

HOW

AM

I

GREASY.

David Freitag

If you have to ask.

tylerl

@Simon it's all down to hormones

kalina

I'd never date a French guy

sleazy motherfuckers they are

tylerl

21:58

@kalina yeah. neither would I.

Simon

Me neither.

kalina

they're great for some temporary ego flattering and they're even better to turn down after they've spent an hour doing their thing

David Freitag

I dunno, ecstasy is a fickle beast.

kalina

but... not a chance

tylerl

> after they've spent an hour trying to lube you up

....

Simon

21:59

@DavidFreitag lulz

@tylerl Yeah, I found that weird too.

And me, finding something weird, wow.

kalina

Firefly reference

tylerl

ah

David Freitag

@tylerl What, you've never been lubed up by a French guy for a few hours? You've never lived then.

kalina

and that's essentially all they're working on

I don't expect you guys to get it

David Freitag

Get what? Taking a dump on someone's parade?

tylerl

22:01

@kalina all they're working on is lube?

David Freitag

I tried that once. They won't let me back into Canada.

Simon

le french-

It sucks to be French Canadian because I get the mocking that the French get and then the Canadian mocking.

It's like a double bad thing to be.

David Freitag

And you should be doubly sorry.

Simon

Sorry sorry.

David Freitag

I don't understand how nobody has invaded Canada yet. You could just walk up to the leader (PM or President???) and say "All your bases are belong to us" and they would just apologize.

Xander

22:07

@DavidFreitag We did. In 1812. It didn't work out so well.

tylerl

@DavidFreitag Cause it's canada. Who would want canada?

David Freitag

@Xander Well, Canada has changed since then. Besides, they weren't trying hard enough.

tylerl

It's like invading north dakota.

David Freitag

@tylerl For the fun of it

tylerl

@DavidFreitag "You break it you bought it"

Xander

22:11

@tylerl I dunno. I'd much rather have Banff, or Whistler-Blackcomb, or Toronto, than North Dakota.

tylerl

@Xander what's wrong with Fargo ?!?!‽‽‽

Xander

@tylerl It's in North Dakota. If they moved it to South Dakota, well fine then, but in North Dakota...No thanks.

tylerl

The only difference between the two is that North Dakota is closer to Canada.

They're both freeze-your-nuts-off cold.

Xander

@tylerl Nonsense. South Dakota has the Badlands, and Mt. Rushmore, and Wall Drug.

And I-90.

tylerl

Would that be a testiclecicle?

David Freitag

22:14

Because that's why we invade Canada.

Xander

I-90 is probably the most important thing ln South Dakota. Helps you get through it faster.

tylerl

@DavidFreitag Wrong state. that's Alabama

David Freitag

@tylerl No, that's any WalMart.

Xander

@tylerl Works pretty well for Buffalo too though. 'Cept for the gatling gun. In NY, I don't even think it's legal to have a Nerf version of a gatling gun. Someone might put an eye out.

tylerl

@DavidFreitag Also, This:

David Freitag

22:17

@tylerl Yes.

There aren't enough cheeseburgers, but it will do.

tylerl

@DavidFreitag There's so much epicness about Clinton. He could almost be a European Prime Minister.

David Freitag

> I did not have sexual relations with that woman.

tylerl

Not quite up to the standards of Berlusconi or a number of his contemporaries. But you have to start somewhere.

David Freitag

@tylerl Yeah, start with the tip. Just for a second.

Simon

22:36

wat

tylerl

@Simon ?

Simon

wat

tylerl

@Simon you have a question about something?

Simon

wat

David Freitag

Wat

A wat is a monastery temple in Thailand, Cambodia, or Laos. The word wat ( ([http://www.forvo.com/word/วัด/#th Pronunciation]), , sometimes rendered vat when referring to Laos) means "school". Introduction Strictly speaking a wat is a Buddhist sacred precinct with monks' quarters, the temple proper, an edifice housing a large image of Buddha, and a structure for lessons. A Buddhist site without a minimum of three resident monks cannot correctly be described as a wat, although the term is frequently used more loosely, even for ruins of ancient temples. (As a transitive or intransitive...

Simon

22:48

I gotta go there and yell wat.

I'm out for the evening, see ya my lovers.

David Freitag

aaaand silence.

tylerl

@DavidFreitag Ruby / Javascript WAT

kalina

BORED

tylerl

@kalina You gotta bring something to the table

kalina

I did, I stated I was bored

tylerl

22:57

When's your move-out date?

kalina

sometime soon

tylerl

So.... what do you do for food since you destroyed all your dishes last week/

kalina

pizza!

tylerl

@kalina living the life, so to speak.

kalina

the unhealthy life

until I have access to a fridge to store my salad

tylerl

23:10

@kalina or... you could just go out and get a salad

kalina

I live in a field

the shop here sells chocolate

tylerl

@kalina you are forbidden from leaving the field?

kalina

too much effort

tylerl

@kalina no mechanized transport then. Sorta like 1830.

kalina

I can survive on pizza for a few weeks

I might even end up above 50kg if I carry on

tylerl

23:13

@kalina mental arithmetic.... you weigh as much as a 6 year old.

kalina

only a really fat 6 year old

tylerl

@kalina or tall

yo prefer 8 or 12 then?

kalina

8 or 12?

Rohan Durve - Decode141

Question guys...

tylerl

looks like you're about 50th percentile for a 12 year old

@RohanDurve-Decode141 asking if you can ask

kalina

23:16

@tylerl ~47kg is a perfectly healthy weight for a girl of my size

Rohan Durve - Decode141

If you had to recommend 3 really good books (InfoSec, Life/Philosophical, or just amazing), what would they be?

kalina

@RohanDurve-Decode141 Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy

Rohan Durve - Decode141

Read it.

Loved it.

I've yet to read its sequels.

Terry Chia

@RohanDurve-Decode141 The Bible. It's a nice bed time story. ;)

kalina

@RohanDurve-Decode141 well there are enough of those

tylerl

23:19

@RohanDurve-Decode141 Anything by Neil Gaiman. Will teach you what quality writing looks like.

kalina

@TerryChia excellent work of fiction, captures the imagination

tylerl

he knows the art

Terry Chia

@kalina Exactly!

tylerl

@kalina a little horrific in parts.

kalina

@TerryChia I'm surprised people haven't formed a religion around it like they did with Hitchhikers Guide

tylerl

23:20

would not be allowed in libraries wihtout its historical significance

Rohan Durve - Decode141

I tried reading the bible once died laughing at the "Let there be light,” and there was light. God saw that the light was good"

Terry Chia

@RohanDurve-Decode141 The writing gets significantly better after that.

There's violence, deceit, sex.

kalina

murder

Rohan Durve - Decode141

Lawl, a douche friend of mine picked up Bibles from the religion section of the bookstore and moved them to fiction everytime we were at the store.

tylerl

@TerryChia And slows down in deuteronomy. or however you spell it.

Terry Chia

23:21

Hey, The Bible is like Game of Thrones!

kalina

resurrections

destruction

war

tylerl

@kalina incest

Rohan Durve - Decode141

Note, not sci-fi, or sci-fatasy, just fiction.

kalina

peace

magic tricks

Rohan Durve - Decode141

Don't compare Game of Thrones to the Bible. >>

GoT has dragons in it.

kalina

23:22

@RohanDurve-Decode141 written by the same authors I think

Terry Chia

@RohanDurve-Decode141 The Bible has talking serpents.

Rohan Durve - Decode141

Iris?

kalina

betrayal

friendship

slavery

The story of the carpenter that changed the world by serving wine and lying to the masses

Rohan Durve - Decode141

Does it come in video?

Nvm, someone's prolly done that.

kalina

brb going to the Christianity channel too share my views

tylerl

23:24

@RohanDurve-Decode141 Mel Gibson, I think

kalina

Fake William Wallace as... Jesus

Danny DeVito as pontius pilate

Jenna Jameson as the virgin Mary

for some irony

tylerl

Yes, I understand that your site is totally the next Facebook or Twitter. No, I'm not going to invest in your business. No, I won't work for equity. Nothing personal.

@RohanDurve-Decode141 For an infosec twist, read one of kevin mitnick's books. The Art of Deception for example. He's the original master of social engineering

you realize just how distrubingly easy is for a single confident person to just blow through any security the average company or industry has in place.

Rohan Durve - Decode141

23:40

Read that.

He's a funny guy.

Lucky too imo.

tylerl

@RohanDurve-Decode141 only served 5 years in prison

if only we all could be that lucky

Rohan Durve - Decode141

Not sure how well you know the law, but a single criminal conviction in the U.K. for unauthorized access can be a jail of upto 10 years.

If they charge you with intent to modify data, that's another upto 10 years.

Fines are a different issue.

tylerl

@kalina movies to watch: Office Space. Good for a post-layoff boredom.

kalina

@tylerl yawn

David Freitag

kalina

23:45

I'm completely sober

but I am full of pizza

David Freitag

I love baked ziti.

tylerl

@DavidFreitag ziti means "all of you shut up"

I guess that's "zitti"

but it's gotta be the same word

pasta that makes people be quiet.

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/zitto

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