@DavidFreitag I'M GLAD THAT I CAME HERE.

@LucasKauffman Nicce! Congrats

@Simon Sweetie, I need to ask for a favour. Would you please help me with something?

@Adnan no it shouldn't be leaking ooze

@Adnan If it's something quick, sure (I'm at work).

@Simon Please have a look at this answer. If you think it's good, could you please upvote it?

@Adnan Upvoted.

@Adnan Downvoted.

> 103 reputation

@kalina Oh no you le didn't.

Some other ***** downovted it.

Man, she did it for real.

@Simon She can't. She only has 103 rep

Somebody else did it

And now she undid it.

@Adnan Just messing with ya. ;)

WHO'S THE TROLL?

ooooo

Congrats.

@TerryChia I thought it's either you or Lucas

Especially after pulling away his trust this morning

@Adnan It still says that I'm a homework in your profile.

So I guess this means it had been there for a while!

@Simon Dude, I wasn't kidding. It's been there for about 3 months.

Damn. @kalina Did you too know that I'm a homework?

@Simon English motherfucker, do you speak it?

Do you?

WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT SENTENCE?

@kalina Go to my Security.SE profile and read the 'About me' section. It'll make sense

I'M A HOMEWORK, YOU KNOW LIKE SOMEONE IS A HUMAN, I'M A HOMEWORK.

@kalina He speaks English. But it's Canadian English so it doesn't count.

@TerryChia i lurned ma anglish on le interwebz

@Adnan I'm not contributing to your profile views

le gud speaking-

@TerryChia better than American English

@kalina You already have, at least 3 times.

@Adnan no

@kalina Yes.

@Adnan I was about to say that.

no

@kalina sigh

...no

@kalina Yes, you wanted to see his relationship status and then you realized this isn't Facebook.

Do I need to publish the IP log file from that picture in my 'about me' section? AGAIN?

I don't use Facebook, that's like internet aids

@Adnan Haha.

@kalina that smiley face on Adnans profile gives away your IP.

I bet if @Adnan finds an XSS vulnerability in SE chat he will use it to embed an iframe linking to his profile that view whore.

@LucasKauffman and browser

@kalina Of course, hipsters don't use FB.

@Adnan my current IP won't be in it

And they use MongoDB, right guys?

@Adnan so with a bit of panopticlick goodness you've got unique people :)

@Adnan what browser does Kalina use and from which country region does she connect?

Let's see first

@LucasKauffman Stack Exchange rules state this is a bannable offence to release this information

Okay, let's cross-reference

@kalina By the mods

@kalina We can't have fun with you.

@Simon She's wrong

@kalina by moderators iirc

Good.

@Adnan agreed

FUK DA POLICE

xmodmap -e "pointer = $(shuf -i 1-5 | tr '\n' ' ')" bring great victory.

Are we trying to scare another person off the internet?

Oh, here's something interesting

very well, time to go email a stack exchange employee

@Adnan I wonder where that BE dude is from

@LucasKauffman :D

:D

@kalina Are you QQing?

So that's @Kalina 's IP

lawl

@Adnan how did you get these Ips?

Oh, come on you guys! Who removed that message?!

@LucasKauffman UK.

exactly

she flagged it

probably

@Byte56 did.

Yep

@Byte56 please can you refer us to the rules we broke.

WTF?!

@LucasKauffman He can't. There isn't.

exactly.

You posted peoples IP addresses using mod tools...

@Adnan be respectful of privacy. @kalina Don't enable images from arbitrary domains or use an image proxy if you don't want folks to find your ip

@lynks what mod tools did I use?

@lynks What mod tools?

@lynks He didn't

It's a freaking image log.

@lynks Ha?!

He probably just posted an image or similar

Which is perfectly within the rules. And not a privacy violation by SE rules.

if she cares so much about her privacy she should use a proxy

@LucasKauffman Posting private information about users, regardless of how they got them, without that user's consent is breaking the ToS.

oh the old image job. how you think that posting the ip back into chat is ok is beyond me

Nor can kalina take any action

@MadaraUchiha An IP address is private information now?

@ManishEarth Any server in the word where our image links are hosted has all of our IPs

Wtf?

It's not nice to post the IP, yes.

Yep.

@TerryChia Yes, currently, IP is considered private.

Did he break any rules in doing so? Nope.

@Lucas pastebin.com/wpnJcpH7

For the sake of the conversation.

@MadaraUchiha And if it is found by non mod means, it's fair game

@Everybody: pastebin.com/wpnJcpH7

It's not polite but it's fucking stupid.

If you want to be cagey about your IP, block images from non-imgur domains and/or use an image proxy. Or just use Tor.

@MadaraUchiha under what rules?

@MadaraUchiha IP is private if a mod finds it out by mod means

So, what now? SE will block image hot-linking in the chat?

@Adnan Do we need to?

@MadaraUchiha I don't care either way.

If it's done to troll and abuse other users, we most certainly would.

@Adnan No, that's crazy

@Adnan stop being a total prick.

@MadaraUchiha Please, an IP address is only considered personal information if it can only be mapped to a single person. That's under European and US law.

@MadaraUchiha Nobody is trolling.

@LucasKauffman It really don't matter.

@lynks By exercising my rights?

@MadaraUchiha This is not abusive or trolling. Not nice, definitely. Trolling? No

Did they ask you not to post it, and you posted anyway?

@Adnan I did ask you not to

@kalina Doesn't change anything.

@Adnan "MAAHH RIGHTS" you sound like a fucking redneck...

have some sense.

@Adnan It changes everything.

@lynks The fuck is going on with you?

@MadaraUchiha Incorrect. If you ask me not to say the word 'Madara' because it's your name, I'm not going to stop saying it.

@Adnan The fact is that I made "Madara" public by naming myself like that in public.

Putting "nice" things aside. I didn't break any rules.

@Simon I completely disagree with what Adnan is doing, particularly having the arrogance to repost it 3 times when the mods delete it...

You don't know my real name, because I've kept it to myself.

@lynks @Adnan can be an ass at times (actually most of the time :P) but he is perfectly right in this.

@MadaraUchiha and IP is made public to a website by accessing a website.

@Adnan Sure you did

@MadaraUchiha You made your IP address public by surfing on the net.....

"Be nice" is one of chat's rules.

@lynks Because he believes he is right.

urgh this is getting out of control, don't give her more attention <.<

@Adnan To a website, you do not own this website.

@Adnan Wait, how did you manage to embed the image in private rooms? Or is that the chat sidebar? Interesting...

You want to keep your IP private? Use Tor.

room mode changed to Gallery: anyone may enter, but only approved users can talk

Okay

Whether IP is public or not is up for debate.

room mode changed to Public: anyone may enter and talk

@Mad stop.

I'm going to resolve this particular instance by leaving. Ciao

Use a different room if you want to

What the fuck is this?! North Korea?!

LOL

@Adnan Can I suggest chilling out a little, before we have to invoke godwins law...

fml, grow up people...

When you configure your browser to automatically load images, you give websites on which images are hosted your IP.

Period.

I'm the owner of the site hosting the image I posted

I get the IP

@Adnan Fine, you don't need to go and publish it out for people, specifically after they asked you not to.

@Adnan let it slide :-)

Nah, @Adnan has one hell of a point. No one was able to quote exactly what rule he broke.

Adnan did not break any rules here. This is almost the same thing as user X revealing their IP directly and then someone else sharing it. If you allow arbitrary domains to open on your browser, your IP is forfeit to anyone who wants to pick it up on a site like this. Deal with it.

@LucasKauffman No!

pastebin.com/wpnJcpH7

@LucasKauffman (you know I like you. The "No" is because it's my right).

@Simon Because there isn't.

@MadaraUchiha second of all please don't power abuse yourself, there was no legitimate reason to make the room private.

@Adnan this is undoubtedly true, however it's still not cool to go posting a newbie's IP address even if they did troll the room...

@Adnan Your right stops right when you violate the site's rules.

"Be nice" is a rule, regardless of how you look at it.

@MadaraUchiha Quote the rule, please.

Oh wow.

Wowy wow.

@RoryMcCune I, 100%, agree with you. It wasn't cool of me and apologize for doing something that isn't cool.

But posting something after somebody asked not to post it doesn't break the rules.

If a user trolls the room, flag it, and let us handle it.

Don't make it worse by adding drama.

@MadaraUchiha Say that to yourself.

@MadaraUchiha sorry that's a bit subjective to be turning a room into a gallery for...

@RoryMcCune The drama was overflowing here.

@MadaraUchiha It's the kettle blaming the pot it's black.

@MadaraUchiha Because you guys came in here and start deleting perfectly valid stuff?

@MadaraUchiha indeed but that probably didn't help to calm things :)

Alright, I think it's just the time to make my retreat, since the issue obviously resolved itself.

@MadaraUchiha Exactly. There was no need for you to be here.

You just escalated the situation.

@MadaraUchiha alright, good day to you

@Adnan why are you being an asshole Ç.Ç

@DavidFreitag oy have you heard the phrase "let it lie"?

Looks like we're getting spied on now.

99.99.99.99

Omgawd @@@

Alright. Now that this is over, I'd like to say something. Yes, it wasn't cool to post the IP, but it's my right to do so and I didn't break any rule.

@Adnan sure I don't think anyone from the DMZ thinks a rule was broken :)

@RoryMcCune Some White Knights here do.

technically it would only be disalowed if she had a static IP

taking EU law into account

@Adnan ah yes but that's why I said "from the DMZ"

@LucasKauffman EU law doesn't apply here.

@ManishEarth US as well :p

@RoryMcCune Yes, from the DMZ.

@ManishEarth servers are in the US but both people are EU citizens

@Adnan Rly all went past a bit quick and I was reviewing a report, I thought the natives just had a comment related to whether it was a nice thing to do not whether it was a rules issue....

Most of us here do know how stupid it is to allow images if you want your ip to be secret on a place like this.

^

I like how she once claimed she was using a VPN.

@RoryMcCune I think we all agree it isn't nice.

Including @Simon, apparently. And he's canadian.

@ManishEarth interestingly, the EU are heading towards legistation where if EU data is processed they're likely to want the company processing it to comply with EU law...

@ManishEarth Tehehehe.

But some mods claim that it was against the rules. Which it isn't really.

@RoryMcCune please please please, that has caused us a significant amount of headaches as well :p

@RoryMcCune Wait, so if an anon user with static IP visits a wiki hosted in the EU and edits, the wiki is liable?

@RoryMcCune it's like FATCA all over again

@TerryChia I agree 100% on that

@ManishEarth yes!

That's plumb loco

@ManishEarth but they aren't sure yet how they are going to make you comply with that law. Probably it will be like FATCA, if you have a company in the EU, but you are also having branches in other countries, those branches will have to comply with the EU standards

This idea that "its trivial and low tech to do so it's allowed" doesn't wash. "Your using a browser so your IP is public" is equivalent to saying "Your OS has a remote code execution bug so all your private files are public". CAN and SHOULD are two different things. People who can't tell the difference are commonly known as skript kiddies. That's me out.

@ManishEarth Companies are also to make sure that if they pass personal data to third party countries outside the EU that these comply with that standard :p (liability)

These europeans are crazy

@ManishEarth I doubt they'd start with IP addresses it's more processing large quantities of personal data

hahaha Obelix

@RoryMcCune ah

@ManishEarth DID YOU JUST HOTLINK AN IMAGE?

@ManishEarth It's real personal data such as phonenumbers, addresses, behavior,... some piece of data that can directly connect someone to a person

@Simon It got uploaded through stackexchange's CDN. :P

@Simon YES I HAVE ALL YOUR DATA OMNOMNOM

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Ok, now that the drama is over. Time to sleep. ;)

@lynks well not quite... one is an active attack one is passive info. gathering... I think it's a gap between what people think they have in terms of privacy and the reality. In reality every website you visit gathers all that info about you (IP address and browser settings) and can use it in any way they like...

I better not be waking up to three pages of transcript again....

@lynks this was just a personalised incident of the same kind

Now I regard what companies are allowed to do as being pretty shady when most people don't understand it, but it still happens...

@Simon Disappointed she didn't. Was positively surprised about somebody actually taking technical steps to protect their identity instead of just complaining.

@lynks While I agree, it has to be said that Kalina is a troll herself that seems to claim she wants unlimited privacy but can't even protect information about her which was gathered passively.

@CodesInChaos Hehe :P

@LucasKauffman Exactly

Wait, did someone remove the star of kalina saying something about Adnan

or did she actually delete the comment before leaving?

Reminds me of my old starcraft hacking days. Wrote a plugin that duped the IP of anybody that joined my games and geoiped them :)

@ManishEarth regarding the CTF, can you tell me how much beer I am required to consume in the interest of this team effort?

@CodesInChaos You probably abused my ass on SC.

@Simon I removed it, seemed appropriate timing :)

@LucasKauffman ALL OF IT

@RoryMcCune Oh, ok. Yeah, that's fine.

@Simon You probably are too young to play SC

@ManishEarth considering the city I live in produces almost 10 million liters a day... :p

@CodesInChaos I was 12 when I was playing it :P

@CodesInChaos and when you saw "Korea" you backed out :P?

@LucasKauffman Koreans mostly played on different servers

> For testing you need to drink 0.5 liter of beer, preferably wheat beer, as fast as you can.

@LucasKauffman (and those who starred this): Are you trying to get us on an FBI watchlist?

Full details here, login info is pinned to the side of the CTF room

@ManishEarth To the side, huh? Not on the ceiling?

@CodesInChaos I was getting involved in clan wars (spamming, flooding channels) like a little script kiddie.

But Koreans are crazy. Had to support IE6 for ages since they didn't upgrade

I didn't know jack shit back then.

@Iszi Nah, @Simon's pinned to the ceiling.

@ManishEarth No matter what you say, I'll respect you because you actually stepped up when those mods came in.

My little scientist.

@ManishEarth Things I do for my stackexchange.

the problem is I don't have any half liters

@LucasKauffman Hey, I gave you an excuse to drink! Now shut up and chug!

@ManishEarth I'll try to see if I still have jupiler left and put it in a measuring beaker

@ManishEarth that drinks a lot faster

I should be able to down it under 8 seconds

I have done this before

@LucasKauffman Please tell me that you go to raves every single week.

I wish I could do that here.

@RoryMcCune Oh, Rory. Such a scriptkiddie you are!

@Adnan I don't know here's me defending you and you come out with that , the most dire of insults ;op

@Simon I've only attended a rave once, too many people tripping on xtc

FLAG IT, FLAAAAG IIIIT

@LucasKauffman Hahaha.

@RoryMcCune :D

> Sarcasm, in a sarcasmaholic meeting? Noooooo

@RoryM I'm actually a little bumbed you unstarred that message. Honestly, this incident is has nothing personal with that girl at all. I'm not even one bit annoyed by her.