The DMZ

Scott Pack

00:21

I don't really remember the 80s, but I don't remember the 90s much either.

Man. Remington wants $6 shipping for a new comb attachment that sells for $3. Looks like I'm buying from someone else.

So instead I pay 3.99 and 4 for shipping. Fuckers.

Simon

You have enough hair to comb it?

Simon

00:45

I'm sorry I didn't mean to hurt you.

Scott Pack

01:20

It's for my beard.

Simon

Really? Haha.

Scott Pack

amazon.com/dp/B00D33W9L4/…

Simon

Oh, that kind of comb.

Scott Pack

It's cheap ass plastic. Either the stops on the slider wear smooth or the damn thing cracks.

It looks like I purchased my last replacement in March of last year.

Xander

01:47

@ScottPack Buy a couple of 'em at once, maybe?

Scott Pack

@Xander I probabaly should. They each last about 18 months, which really isn't bad I suppose.

David Freitag

03:06

@Simon Yes

And then i work the weekends too

Simon

Ouch.

David Freitag

03:25

keeps me from getting into trouble.

i got out of class half an hour ago, and i have a board meeting in 8 and a half hours

Rogach

04:53

Q: When I am encrypting something with AES, am I supposed to send IV alongside the ciphertext?

tylerl

06:18

ugh...

I feel.... dirty

Terry Chia

@tylerl Ewww gross.

tylerl

@TerryChia i know, right?

AviD

06:39

@ScottPack really? mine lasts so much longer.

not remington, though.

@Rogach yes. I think there are a few q's on this on the site....

couldnt resist this when I saw the q in the supercollider...

5

A: Other ways to say "I have a bad hunch"

I've got a baaad feeling about this. (Note that this does have a certain pop-culture reference...)

Terry Chia

@AviD -1 because of Phantom Menace.

AviD

@TerryChia heh, wasnt MY clip, I just found it quickly on youtube. Have a better clip?

besides, as backstory, it does the job. Never understood all the hate on it.

Terry Chia

@AviD heh nah. I actually like Episode 1. Too much jar jar but at least qui gon is badass.

AviD

Also, the evolution of fighting styles, in particular Obi Wan's.

@TerryChia oh my sentiments exactly.

Terry Chia

Also, Anakian wasn't a whiny teenager in Episode 1.

AviD

06:49

jar jar was the kiddie equivalent of fan service. like ewoks.

tylerl

I'm proud to announce that I've never seen episodes 2 and 3, and have only seen ep 1 in Italian.

so it doesn't count

AviD

@TerryChia no, he was a whiny ADHD toddler.

Lucas Kauffman

good morning gents

Terry Chia

Episode 2 was the vomit-inducing one imo.

Lucas Kauffman

I don't mind either

0

Q: My ipaddress is changed

I am Broadband user and have static ipaddress, I had turned off firewall in window 7 and after few hour My ipaddress is changed.Why did it change? before it never happened as such, is it done by some hacker? how can i get my ipaddress back now i have turned my firewall on. Please help and i have...

network ip

KILL IT

KILL IT WITH FIRE

tylerl

06:58

@MikeF It could be anywhere along the continuum between (a) using the task schedule and (b) storing your password in a text file on your desktop named my password.txt. Somewhere along that line, I'd recon. — tylerl 3 mins ago

How am I supposed to know how secure someone else's product is?

Terry Chia

@tylerl lmao

AviD

@LucasKauffman ninja'd by @rory.

tylerl

@AviD s/ninja'd/pwned/

AviD

@tylerl s/pwned/roryed/

so, roryed by @rory.

tylerl

@AviD s/ / rory rory /g @rory

Rory Alsop

07:02

Suddenly - all the pings happened

morning all

tylerl

Morning @rory

Terry Chia

Good @Rory @RoryAlsop.

AviD

@RoryAlsop ymean all the pings @rory'ed.

Terry Chia

All your @Rory are belong to us.

Rory Alsop

And I agree with @AviD - in 1, he was incredibly annoying. The only redeeming features of that film: pod racers (cos they are cool) and Qui Gon

oh, and I would have my spaceship chromed too

films 2 and 3 - not worth the time of day

Terry Chia

07:05

@RoryAlsop He was vomit inducing in 2 though.

Rory Alsop

yup

AviD

@RoryAlsop 2 was great, 3 was bloody awesome.

Rory Alsop

could they not have just shot him at the end of 1 and saved a lot of the universe

AviD

huge high speed spaceship fight in the first minutes? Win!

Terry Chia

The only saving grace of Episode 2 was Yoda vs Dooku.

That fight was freaking awesome.

Rory Alsop

07:06

Yoda vs Dooku....meh

the physics didn't work quite right for me

AviD

also I see both as backstory (great), and a literary technique known as "mirroring". Brilliant.

Rory Alsop

The community filmed episode 3.5 was way better than either (IMHO)

Terry Chia

Obi wan vs Grevious was nice in 3.

AviD

@TerryChia all the lightsaber fights in 2 and 3 were great. They developed a whole fighting system (actually, 7) for these films, which was sorely lacking in the the originals.

Rory Alsop

Okay, Obi-Wan was cool, but only because Ewan MacGregor

Terry Chia

07:07

@AviD The fights were nice. The scenes with Anakin and Padme in them? Blegh...

AviD

@RoryAlsop 3.5 was paaiiinful. Still watched it, of course.

Rory Alsop

Developing the fighting systems backstory: excellent idea. Delivery: rubbish

AviD

@RoryAlsop you didnt like the fighting systems?

Rory Alsop

yes it was painful, but less so than 2 or 3. The acting was way better, for a start

AviD

@RoryAlsop nooooo.... it was like an 80's B film!

Rory Alsop

07:09

I think the fighting systems were awesome, as development of theory and backstory, but the way they were represented was 'orrible

AviD

@RoryAlsop I loved how the different systems match the different personalities.

Rory Alsop

Hmmm - I may have not picked up on that as i was trying to uncurl my toes

anyway, your bad feeling has an upvote from me :-)

AviD

@RoryAlsop meh, dont care about rep there, it was entertainment value only.

thanks, I guess.

Rory Alsop

07:35

hahahaha

Lucas Kauffman

07:59

I want to go back to Singapore

tylerl

08:16

@LucasKauffman Why?

Rory Alsop

08:27

because @Terry has offered drinks?

AviD

@RoryAlsop just drinks?

Rory Alsop

heh

Lucas Kauffman

@tylerl nicer climate, very nice environment and cool food

only downside is limited alcohol

mmm now I'm thinking about it...

Terry Chia

08:40

@AviD And food. Don't forget the food.

@LucasKauffman Submit a talk to Blackhat/Syscan. :P

Adnan

Fucking feminists!!!

AviD

@Adnan mancave.cbslocal.com/2013/10/09/why-misogyny-is-unmanly

Adnan

SPU (a YouTube channel) made a video about motorboating for breast cancer awareness. They donated $20 for each motorboat AND $100 for each 100k views they had (on a video on which they disabled advertisement).

A group of femenazis decided they were offended and contacted the charity and pressured them to refuse the donation

Great! Because of people claiming to help modern women, breast cancer research lost money.

Money that, in theory, could have helped modern women.

rant = over

@AviD Is this by one of the Cracked writers? It sure has some hints of their style.

Terry Chia

@AviD Are you going to be all annoying about rant = over now?

AviD

@Adnan heh, possibly - it was linked from there.

@TerryChia nah, I'm not going to try to educate @Adnan. He's hopeless.

Adnan

08:51

@TerryChia No need to, I'm 100% right. rant has been assigned the value of over. When somebody asks "What is rant?", "Oh, let's check it. Oh, yup, it's over".

Unless, of course, rant is an object and its "overness" is decided by an internal property. In that case, rant.over = true.

or, rant.over() where over: (){this.rant = true}.

God damn it, @AviD !!!!

You got in my head without saying anything.

AviD

@Adnan BUWAHAHAHAA!

@Adnan but this, yes. over would be either a status (property), or an action (setting that status, i.e. a method).

same discussion as yesterday's mind = blown;.

Terry Chia

The quality of TDWTF is really slipping....

AviD

however, there is another possibility in this case, that did not apply there: that you are explicitly overwriting the object reference that is stored in rant, with a null-like value of over, to prevent further access to the original object referred to by rant.

Terry Chia

@AviD I'm going to quote @Simon here. "Nurds"

AviD

In managed languages this is usually avoided, since the rant reference would be invalidated as soon as the variable goes out of scope. It is not unheard of, however.

Of course, you might be in a non-managed language, such as VB6, or even worse, PHP.

Terry Chia

09:00

@AviD Oh sure, I use del() in python all the time.

AviD

nice edit. security.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/15541

Terry Chia

@AviD That's the exact spam I used to get all the time on my Wordpress blog before I decided to ditch comments.

AviD

@Adnan not sure the "major change" reason was the best choice...

Perhaps "too minor" would have been better. After all, we all know that @tylerl was really talking about Louis Vuitton handbags.

Adnan

@AviD At least I didn't accept it.

AviD

@Adnan yeah, @TerryChia would have.

Terry Chia

09:12

@AviD Yes, I just love Louis Vuitton handbags.

Adnan

@AviD That dude accepts everything he can get.

Just like @Simon

Terry Chia

@Adnan Not you though, I don't want anything from you.

AviD

@Adnan quick, call @kalina.

Adnan

@TerryChia Perfect! Because I really don't want to give you anything.

kalina

...

Adnan

09:14

@AviD God damn it! Why?! We were having a nice conversation with you guys. Why did you have to ruin it by summoning her.

AviD

@Adnan you seemed lonely.

Lucas Kauffman

09:25

soundcloud.com/majorlazer/major-lazer-workout-mix

some good music, in my opinion.

AviD

@LucasKauffman thats a matter of opinion.

Lucas Kauffman

@AviD fixed

Adnan

Lucas Kauffman

@simon soundcloud.com/majorlazer/major-lazer-workout-mix#t=10:32

AviD

►

Adnan

09:31

@AviD Wasn't that the hacking/IT TV show?

AviD

@Adnan yeah, some epic scenes there.

Adnan

@AviD Remember the name of the show?

AviD

I still use that "I'll allow it" line when my kids are being appropriately pranky to each other.

@Adnan Breaking In

Adnan

@AviD Yup, that's the one

AviD

@Adnan If you havent seen it, definitely watch it. But only the first season - the 2nd sucked balls.

Adnan

10:57

@AviD That's what I thought. I only watched the first one and was hesitant to watch the second.

kalina

11:28

eugh well, as if I wasn't having a bad enough day

I'm getting disciplined for misconduct, for one mistake and a bunch of other stuff they're trying to pin on me

I'm so glad I clarify everything I'm asked to do via email

starts printing emails

Lucas Kauffman

@kalina what type of misconduct?

kalina

I missed a step in a process that I would never miss, which resulted in large scale corruption of data which prevented payroll running for a key site and could have resulted in negative press

Polynomial

11:41

@kalina clearly your assertion that you'd never miss the step is incorrect.

unless I'm missing some greater context

kalina

clearly

which leaves me feeling bemused

since the step in question is "stop the application pools in IIS"

Polynomial

maybe it was just a brainfart

we all have them from time to time

kalina

well, it can't be anything other than that

step one of the process is "tell the customer you're killing their system"

step two is "kill the system"

so somehow I'm meant to convince myself that the 15 second period between hanging up the phone and killing the system I dreamed it up

Terry Chia

@kalina yes

kalina

and then proceeded to install and configure the latest version of the application and upgrade the database while people were still using it

but merely thinking of these sentences results in large quantities of alarms, facedesking, and wtfs

because reading the words looks SO STUPID

it's never a mistake I would make

and yet, it can only be my fault

Polynomial

11:45

maybe the kill operation failed and you didn't notice?

or someone re-launched the IIS services while you were upgrading - do they have service audit logs?

kalina

oh there's nothing about the app pools stopping

the action never happened

Polynomial

my conclusion is that space lizards are involved

kalina

but then they've strung out the investigation until the day before payday

Polynomial

ouch

kalina

and then arranged a disciplinary hearing at a time that gives me no margin for error to arrive on time

and pinned a bunch of other stuff that wasn't my fault or wasn't even me onto the hearing

Polynomial

11:47

shit rolls downhill

welcome to corporate life :P

kalina

the disciplinary process says they can't fire me at this stage

due to (a) it not being gross misconduct and (b) me not being on a final written warning

but it's just a bit convenient that they're currently trying to downsize another department and that department has people that could be moved into this department

it feels like I'm being set up

Polynomial

can't see how though - how would they go about forcing your end not to kill the service?

kalina

I don't understand the question

Polynomial

well if you missed a step, how is that something that they did?

kalina

oh it's not, the other stuff though... is questionable

Polynomial

11:49

ah

AviD

@kalina there's a big surprise. ;-)

Polynomial

maybe they just dislike your crushing sarcasm

kalina

and my mistake, which upon me doing the investigation into what the hell happened resulted in me going "oh, well... er, I can't explain it but it does look like it's my fault"

rather than trying to hide the fact

is nothing in comparison to some of the other mistakes made by others who're still employed here in the past

AviD

@kalina umm.... that's not misconduct. That is a mistake.

kalina

this company's classification of misconduct covers mistakes

they're classifying it as negligence

AviD

11:51

at worst it can be deemed negligence, but that is a stretch. Misconduct is something else.

@kalina this happens to me all the time.

kalina

one of the things on this list of things I've done wrong was a failed product to migrate a customer from a hosted solution to on site hosting

which I wasn't involved in due to being on holiday during the planning phase

had dropped on me at the last minute

AviD

@kalina what kind of freak company do you work at, that firing an employee for an innocent mistake is even considered???

kalina

and then found out the customer wanted the product to do something it wasn't designed to do on their system in the name of disaster recovery

I spoke to my manager, wrote a solution that would make the product work in that setup

Terry Chia

Hah! RedHat fucked up! permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.general/16172

kalina

and then got told not to do it because it's non-standard, and then my manager pulled the plug on the project

why is that me doing anything wrong?

AviD

11:54

@kalina this is ridiculous.

@TerryChia Shocking! This has never happened!

kalina

I wouldn't usually be so phased, but I left my comfort zone by starting the job here - I moved from a big city to a tiny village where the office I work from is based

if I lose this, I'm basically stranded in a redneck hole with a population of 30

at the same time

I don't really want to work for a company that goes out of its way to do this to one of their employees

AviD

ah. so perhaps they behave like this, since they assume there is no competition for you.

But in this day and age, that is never true.

@kalina move jobs?

tellecommute?

kalina

I hate travelling

AviD

though today nobody calls it "telecommuting" anymore, it's just "working".

kalina

that's why I moved up here when they offered me the job

I live next door to the office I work in

I can't quite see my home wifi network from here

but if I walk to the far end of the carpark I can

Terry Chia

11:59

@kalina Get a stronger antennae.

kalina

I think you're missing the point slightly

I RDP home anyway

I never access anything not work related via anything other than my RDP home

Terry Chia

@kalina Just trying to lighten the mood. :)

kalina

I don't think anything will salvage today for me

Terry Chia

@kalina How about stomping on @Adnan?

kalina

nah, I don't have the motivation to be mean to anybody

I can't be mean to others, even playfully, if I'm not in the mindset to take what I dish out

AviD

12:04

@kalina wanna try nice today? Might be good for a larf.

kalina

I am being nice

I am a naturally nice person

AviD

@kalina whoa.

kalina

It's very rare I'm actually genuinely mean to somebody

as demonstrated by a conversation the other day where for a moment it looked like @Adnan was getting upset about it all, and I clarified with him he knew none of it was serious

Simon

MURNING

Terry Chia

12:21

@Simon No.

kalina

12:36

mmmh

Simon

:(

Terry Chia

13:41

@Simon You killed the chat.

Chat killer.

Adnan

@Simon Morning, sweetie. How are ya?

CodesInChaos

@TerryChia I blame SSL.

Typical SSL implementations only support some curves, but originally you couldn't really tell the server which ones you support.

nowadays there is an extension for that, but I don't know how many implementations support it

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