@ThomasPornin He also needs a tan.

You don't need a tan when you work in IT.

@ThomasPornin But but but but.. testosterone and melanin. I don't have a lot of those :(

Selling hair.

@Adnan You could buy a gun. Or a bigger gun. A lot of people find it to be an acceptable substitute. Apparently big cars work, too.

@ThomasPornin I thought guns and cars are for micropenis syndrom.

@Simon Oh yeah, I remember you had a lot

@Adnan It is wide-spectrum medication.

@Adnan I never know if you're being sarcastic.

@ThomasPornin Hence why I bought a Subaru, I'm gonna pick up all teh gurlz.

why did they vote down AJ's answer?

@LucasKauffman People do weird stuff all the time; there is not necessarily a "why".

@ThomasPornin Are you home this weekend?

@Simon I am receiving my parents, on holiday.

@ThomasPornin It's ok, I don't mind if they are there. I'll come for dinner on Saturday.

@Simon Make sure to bring salmon, bears love salmon.

@LucasKauffman Great, you made me spill my Duvel

@Adnan tssss spilling such good beer, you tried the triple hop version?

it's a lot more bitter

@LucasKauffman I imagine. But unfortunately we don't have it in the government monopoly alcohol store.

ah sucks :(

@LucasKauffman What about wine? Too mainstream?

@Simon Bears drink St. Bernardus abt 12

@LucasKauffman Cool, I'll try to get my hands on that.

@LucasKauffman What's that?

@Simon In my opinion it's the best brown beer there this, I spent 10 euro to get my hand on a bottle of Westvleteren (which is considered the best beer in the world) but I still prefer the abt 12

@LucasKauffman Why do you people have access to such awesome beers?

:( :(

Fuck you, Alko!

@Adnan It's a brown beer which is an official Trappist. The recipe is the same as the one of Westvleteren, only the fathers who brew it make larger supplies. The ones who brew Westvleteren only make enough so that they can live. Which means the beer is extremely exclusive

hey guys:)

I'm stuck on something and need some help.

my two favorite beers at the moment are the Abt 12 and the Tripel Karmeliet

Hi Aladin.

What are the different way http connection can be made to an Ip address / website considering I'm looking at the flows information going to proxy server.

@Simon Hehehehehe

@Adnan Was too easy.

but karmeliet you can only drink one of because the taste is quite deep, whereas with Duvel you can easily drink several

beside host parameter in the http header or connect where else that information can hide

@LucasKauffman My favourite beer is whatever the Finnish government allows me to drink.

@Saladin have you read the rfc?

@Adnan duvel is one of the better ones

same as La Chouffe

rfc or blackhat guide to malware obfuscation?

lol

I'm seeing logs in firewall going out of network; but don't find any trace in the proxy logs? strange...

@Saladin because the outgoing connections aren't http?

@Adnan what beers can you get?

@LucasKauffman but still don't you expect to see an IP address in the payload?

@Saladin payload?

@LucasKauffman let me explain I'm not reading http access log e.g apache I'm reading entire flows information up to layer 7 that goes to internet

@Saladin yes

so you get to see tons of protocols

@LucasKauffman alko.fi/en/search/?q=Beer

wait

you aren't kidding when you say they regulate it all o.O

@LucasKauffman i can filter it out using the software that no problem ; but in the entire payload i don't see a damn ip address. So i was thinking like what if the ip address is encoded...

@Adnan WTF 4 EURO FOR A LA CHOUFFE?

@Adnan alko.fi/en/products/764074

LA CHOUFFE OHÉ OHÉ

@LucasKauffman No I wasn't. All regulated and can only be sold buy that government company.

How the hell can your government get its hands on 480 bottles of that stuff, whereas it took me 3 years to get my hands on a single bottle

but holy fuck it costs a lot of money in finland to drink beer

@LucasKauffman Well now you know why it was hard to find one bottle: the Finnish had grabbed all of them.

@Simon - congratulations on your product from Fuji Heavy Industries! Enjoy it responsibly. Out failing that, enjoy it sideways

@RoryAlsop What about my 2.5 RS?

Wait, that is my RS, LOL.

Hahahahahaha

Fuji Heavy Industries? I'm so loooost.

Subaru is a part of FHI

@LucasKauffman That's why they have ferries to Estonia which don't actually go to Estonia; they cross the maritime border so that booze may flow, and a few hours they come back in Finland.

Oh, I didn't know that.

Anyway, it still doesn't feel like mine yet.

@LucasKauffman Yeah, it sucks. We have to smuggle alcohol from Estonia.

It's at the garage, gotta spend a grand in repairs.

Gotcha

The guy wanted to replace my o2 sensor to fix the catalytic converter but I'm pretty sure that's not the issue so I told him to not replace it.

He wasn't even sure if that was the problem himself so I don't wanna spend 300$ on a "maybe".

Also, they are known to have a faulty converter.

I SO hope that it's gonna be ready tomorrow though.

@Adnan how much is whisky in fi?

@LucasKauffman My second gf produced a new track: youtube.com/watch?v=eKrK0cXdU9U

Fat beats.

@Simon dat beat

She played it at the rave I went, good times.

@Simon really, can't remember you have mentioned her before.

@LucasKauffman Well, I don't like to talk much about her, in case my 1st gf gets jealous.

@Simon we both know she isn't really your 1st gf

@LucasKauffman My real one? She isn't my first?

@Simon It's stephanie.

just also noticed we don't have TP in the new house

so will need to check how I can get a TP cable running up stairs

@LucasKauffman If that was true, I would be a very sad man, to be honest.

I'd barely see her and I, myself, would be jealous as shit.

NNNUUUUKKKEEEE: security.stackexchange.com/questions/41259/…

@Adnan need to make my own pellet catcher, you think 12mm mdf will suffise ?

@LucasKauffman For example, the Ardbeg 10 was about 62 euros.

@Adnan 50% more expensive than here

Highland Park 10, about 57

@Adnan I'm thinking of using 12mm of mdf and covering it with a carpet on the front and back

@LucasKauffman Bad idea.

@Adnan why?

or should I take two mdf of 12 mm and put the carpet in between?

@LucasKauffman You need metal. Your rifle shoots quite hot.

it's just so that if there is a stray bullet it gets caught

@LucasKauffman What's behind your target?

@Adnan My heart.

@Adnan first trees, then a small pathway which might be used by 2 neighbours and then a large field

He is the evolution of Cupid.

@Adnan I wouldnt use it to actually shoot on, just to prevent from pellets flying everywhere

@LucasKauffman How far away will the MDF board will be?

@Adnan about 20 meters

well it will be right behind the target

about a meter or so

@Lucas I'm not sure what to tell you, but I still don't recommend MDF for that purpose. I've personally pierced a 20mm MDF board with my rifle from 30 meters away.

@Adnan aaah, mmm then I need something else

Free nuke: security.stackexchange.com/questions/41261/…

@LucasKauffman Actually, a bigger problem with MDF is that it gets shattered after 10-15 shots.

Really, it just becomes small pieces.

@LucasKauffman Is it going to be stationary once set up? Or do you need to be able to haul it around?

@Xander might just take it out the shed to shoot and then put it back afterwards

Fwee nuke: security.stackexchange.com/questions/41262/…

@Xander Keep in mind that we're talking about airguns. Lucas' rifle shoots about 35 joules at the muzzle.

@LucasKauffman Hmm. What dimensions are you thinking for the backstop?

@Xander 2mx2m

I have a carpet made of this matterial: dolessharm.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/carpet1.jpg

I thought to take one mdf plate and put the carpet on the front and the back

what I can do is reinforce the front even more and add additional carpet

Does anyone bother nuking threads when I link them?

@Lucas All pellet catchers follow almost the same structure. A 3mm steel body, with a 4-5 mm slope inside.

@Simon I did

@LucasKauffman Good.

Basically, something like that.

@Adnan so I need to make a box

@LucasKauffman What I worry about is that if there's degradation or bulging in the MDF indicating weak spots, the carpet will disguise them from you.

@LucasKauffman More importantly, you need the red part (the sloped metal part)

@Simon Yes.

@Xander I can attest that a 20mm MDF board will fail after 10-15 pellets.

Good, good.

@Xander I could put all the carpet on the front

or use building wood of 50 mm

It's funny how The Bear went silent when I said I was gonna come at his house, lulz.

@Simon Well, you're already creepy enough without saying anything. Add to that coming to his place..

@Adnan How the hell am I creepy? People always say that I could smuggle drugs because I look like an innocent man.

@Simon I've got work to do occasionally, punk.

@LucasKauffman I think putting all the carpet on the front would be a smart move. And using something with a bit more structural integrity than MDF, like plywood. 50mm of plywood fronted by several layers of carpet I'd think should be sufficient. I know it'd be more than enough for my 25 joule airgun, which gets less than 25mm of penetration into solid wood.

Besides I have commented enough and factually: this week-end would be inopportune

I don't want to give the wrong idea about hospitality in Québec

@ThomasPornin I don't think that's possible.

So if I have to break your teeth and dispatch your corpse with my lawnmower I would prefer to do it without witnesses.

Unless you actually invite somebody in.

@ThomasPornin Please, don't think that I'm being serious when I'm saying a such thing.

@Xander What kind of wood (in the end).

@ThomasPornin AND I'M THE CREEPY ONE, @Adnan?

Also, I think it's the first time ever that someone calls me a punk, it feels weird.

@Simon Whaaaaa?! That's normal.

That's what bears do.

@Simon I'm pretty sure that's not the first time

@Adnan They cut grass?

@Adnan I was shooting a cedar 4"x4", which is a fairly soft wood.

@Adnan I swear it is.

@Simon You young people. It's a quote.

@ThomasPornin that would be so funny, a bear on a lawnmower

"Make my day, punk."

It's ok, I like Psyko Punkz anyway.

So anyway, since obviously Saturday is not the right day, I'll come on Sunday.

@LucasKauffman Actually behind, not on. It is a manual lawnmower; it must be pushed. No engine.

Speaking of which, has anybody ever heard of a lawnmower on which you could sit, but powered only with pedals, as a bike ?

@ThomasPornin Spoken by Dirty Harry. Who carries a .44 Magnum. Which is not the most powerful handgun in the world, despite his claims to the contrary.

The concept was suggested to me, and I don't see why it would not exist. It could even sell as a workout apparatus.

@LucasKauffman Ok, I see other people had the same idea. Any commercial product in all that, or are they all DIY ?

@LucasKauffman Where the fuck did you find this picture of me?

@ThomasPornin no idea

if I ever get my own house I probably will buy one of those lawn mower robots

@LucasKauffman there are lawn mower robots? must go look those up, new house has a large garden not sure I fancy mowing it unless we can buy the existing owners sit-on lawnmower...

@RoryMcCune yea they drive themselves around and they have a base station where to go to to charge

they are not cheap, I think around 1500 euro for a decent one

@LucasKauffman nice, one of those + mounted fricking lasers and I'm sorted for keeping the grass down and any unwanted people off the property...

@RoryMcCune robomow.com/en-USA

@LucasKauffman sounds about the same as the cost of sit-on mowers...

@RoryMcCune accept you dont need to sit on them and they just drive around themselves :p

ah they also have models starting at 900

@LucasKauffman yeah I think the sit-on thing would be a novelty that would wear off... wonder how safe the robots are around wildlife/cats....

@RoryMcCune well curiosity minced the cat

@RoryMcCune Squirrels and cats are likely to flee. I would be more concerned with humans.

Especially the younger models.

They would make for sloppy fertilizers. Too squishy, not enough bone in them.

@ThomasPornin I know you're just saying that to creep me out. Don't worry, I still wanna go river fishing with you.

@ThomasPornin ah well that's ok, we don't have any so they'd be intruders, if I stick up a "beware of killer robots" sign I'll be fine :)

@Simon we all know how that would go down

@LucasKauffman just realized, you DON'T mean toilet paper...?

@AviD amusingly I thought that too, then realised...

@RoryMcCune He knows karate?!?

@AviD toilet paper?

still not actually sure what he DID mean....

I am glad that he's not getting all scatological in here, though.

@LucasKauffman TP?

@Simon of course!

@AviD twisted pair?

was my guess

@RoryMcCune oh duhh

not intuitive, though

yes I run ethernet over toilet paper

it's a new RFC I'm making

@Gilles do you read ALL meta.so posts??

@LucasKauffman What size packets will it support?

@Xander depends on the layers

I'm sorry, but your snark is misplaced.

@AviD My apologies my dear tiger

@ThomasPornin MISQUOTE

@LucasKauffman I prefer to just push mine.

@Xander at some point I beleive he changed it to "most powerful handgun in the west".

@ScottPack I just noticed there is a small wooden panel that can be removed, hopefully there are some cables I can pull through there (I think it might be used for electricity wiring) otherwise I just will need to use my powerplugs

@AviD West of what? The local gun store?

In that case, he may have been right.

@LucasKauffman I'm not entirely sure I want to read the transcript to see what you're talking about.

@Xander well, at the time, it was one of the most powerful pistols available.

@ScottPack I got a house

@LucasKauffman And?

@LucasKauffman and congrats!

@AviD ty

Did you purchase a home, or are you renting a home instead of an apartment?

@ScottPack I have an AP to the internet in the basement, but no twisted pair running in the house

rent for a year

@AviD Yes, but not the most powerful. At that time, the most powerful was probably the .454 Casull, which was introduced just a couple of years after the .44 Magnum, and a couple of decades before the Dirty Harry movies.

mate of mine is going to australia for one year, so decided to rent his house with my girlfriend to see if we can actually live together

@Xander admittedly I am not famliar with that one.

I recommend you go out and buy a metal fish tape, keyhole saw, low-voltage old-work boxes, 5 gallons of patching plaster, and business cards for contractors.

:P

@Xander according to wikipedia, its a bullet, not a handgun.

@AviD It's pretty limited in appeal. It's really a large game hunting/defensive pistol, and not good or fun for much else.

This is my second house. The first time I had grand dreams of running cat6 everywhere. This time I have grand dreams of running it to two locations, both of which are on the first floor with easy access to the subfloor, and a 802.11n AP.

One of the early precursors to the modern S&W .460/.500 Magnums which you may know.

@AviD Same with the .44 Magnum.

@Simon @RoryMcCune try this mix, I think it's pretty good old school 90's eurodance

Lots of different handguns are made for it. (The .44 Magnum, anyway. Only a couple are chambered in .454 Casull)

The Ruger Super Redhawk is one.

You can get it in either .44 Mag or .454 Casull

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@Simon boo

=\

it's pretty damn good

@AviD no, but I do read too many

teddybears in space anyone

@RoryMcCune wholly crap! Did somebody just murderize a bear?

why would you shoot a bear before throwing him out of a plane?

I guess it doesnt matter who the bear is, what matters is our plan.

@AviD is that "replace lion with tiger, not bear?"

@RoryAlsop hehe, in a 3 way fight, lions, and tigers, and bears, who would win?

oh my!

(btw it was a Bane quote.... ;-)

@AviD Is this like rock, paper, scissors - if so, I'll vote dinosaur!

the Allosaurus!

@RoryAlsop Spock!

wohoo, I am protective now

@Gilles I was going to come back with a silly dinosaur name, but then found this: dinosaurs.about.com/od/dinosaurdiscovery/tp/dinonames.htm

quick, someone post a question that attracts lots of garbage answers and comments so I can try it out

@AJHenderson pffft

and congrats

on becoming one of the Pak

(see what I did there?)

@RoryAlsop one of the @scotts

@RoryAlsop just go for #2.

@AviD or Bambiraptor

heh

ok, time to go back to having an uneventful day :)

@AviD I know it is not exact from the movie; however, it is exact from the myth (i.e. the large set of people who misquote the movie). In that matter, I find the myth more interesting than the movie itself (which has grown a bit old and stale to my taste).

@ThomasPornin fair enough, often the myth is greater than the man.

no no, I swear I wasnt referring to you, your bearness!!

@AviD Como?

nevermind, it was subtle.

Yeah, I just read through and I have no idea what he did there.

I think I did it for him.

Wow, that's a real war.

its a beautiful thing.

@Scott and @AviD - it was a Larry Niven reference. Sorry...

@RoryAlsop Lame.

I thought it was good. I always liked the Ringworld novels

Broskis I need some help :(

@Griffin need somebody to get you to stop saying "Broskis"?

@AviD No, that can be handled later.

Want one of us to slap you every time you say it? Yknow, corrective psychology.

Uh no. I need help in finding a laptop. Not for me but for my grandmother. I feel bad for her. After she had a stroke we weren't able to really help her and now she kinda sits in a retirement home and does nothing all day and it just makes me sad. Thing is she speaks Polish (she can't talk after the stroke) and she doesn't have the best eye site.

@ton.yeung No, school started girl no talk to me much anymore :(

@Griffin my push is for tablets.

@ton.yeung No.

@AviD Too small.

:/ Sorry

@AviD She needs to be able to see the screen and keyboard so I'm thinking I'll have to swap out they keys and most likely the whole keyboard to convert it to polish and make the letters larger

@Griffin why? 10.6 inches, less than an arms length away? Better than 15" laptop, and that just gets into heavy territory.

She's my grandmother. Imagine a bat without glasses.

And she's had multiple strokes.

@Griffin familiar with the concept.

@AviD I'm also thinking a pretty crazy battery life

@Griffin taaaaaableeet

.....

BOY

GIANT ASS KEYBOARD

ask @RoryMcCune about the surface... might be a good fit here.

That might be closer to what she wants actually.

Plus she can't fuck with the tiles too bad...

Actually the surface kinda sounds perfect here...

..... You win this time @AviD you win this time....

ha! see?

Gonna need a big ass surface tho...

@ton.yeung .... No.

@Griffin only the one size...

2 kinds of keyboard covers tho.

@AviD How big?

SOOOO big ;-)

@AviD 10.6 is small....

microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productID.275275300

I want something bigger...

also dont forget the tradeoff - bigger screen gets you more weight, less battery, harder to manipulate, etc...

... dell.com/us/p/xps-18-1810/pd

18" for poststroke, waddaya nuts?

5 hour battery life and

oh, ah wait, thought that was the laptop.

5 pounds

That's actually kinda like what I was thinking. Little large but hey

Battery life + relitively light = win

@ton.yeung The drums and stuff?

@RoryAlsop I need to read some of those. I'm reading through Discworld books until I get tired of them.

I just posted a teaser on my Facebook wall with the plate of my new car. I'm such a whore.

@ScottPack have you read Strata?

@ScottPack Niven/Pournelle had an awesome stretch with a bunch of really good novels. Ringworld, Footfall, Mote in God's Eye etc

@Gilles I loved that one

@Gilles I've eaten Strata.