@humanityANDpeace Because that has completely no relation to the question of whether hardware backdoors can be an issue.

@LucasKauffman thanks for the explaination.

And frankly, I'm sick of all the NSA bullshit that's popping up whenever anyone mentions anything related to security...

@TerryChia Oh I am sick of it too! But that does not help the problem being there does it? Surely it would be neat to pretend that there is nothing to worry about, does it give you better preparedness, beter security? I mean I really also hate this repetetive use of the NSA name, Some 5 month ago most idios did not even know that acronym, now everybody uses it and it angers that some claim expterise by just saying.".. ohhhh i know the NSA...."

Also considering hardware backdoors I think it is a valid assumption to say that if anybody attempting that , then this must be a resourceful actor. Therefore NSA and alike are somewhat in there and to be considered. Making it a "taboo" seems not helpful to me.

By the way, this answer does not strike me to be particularily correct, security.stackexchange.com/a/40265/13609

and yahoo there is also this answer from @Thomas Pornin which I think is really nice and helpful !!! Thakn you!

@LucasKauffman I don't know, double D?

@Svetlana nice

@LucasKauffman Damn, I should learn these stuff.

@Svetlana what stuff?

@LucasKauffman I'm unable to estimate cup sizes at all.

@Svetlana I used to be good at it

@LucasKauffman I always suck when it comes these things

I've just realized what I said

@Svetlana Worth a star. :)

@Svetlana You can see a little bit of the torso below the right one. I'd guess B+.

@Lucas Apparently I cannot change my name back!! I have to wait 30 days

@Svetlana Go to another SE account and sync it.

@TerryChia BUT BUT BUT my Sec.SE account won't be affected

@Svetlana It will.

I did it when I was "Cut" for 5 minutes.

@TerryChia There's a 15 minute grace period

@Svetlana Ahhh. I guess you are a girl for the month then.

It was bound to happen.

@Svetlana I'm willing to take a such picture for some rep donations.

@Simon Do it, and I'm sure all of us will upvote whatever good post you make.

I'm sure nobody will think I'm a weirdo if I camwhore at work, right?

@Simon I am fair positive that such an action will not reduce anyone's opinion of you.

@ScottPack I'm that low?

I never said that.

what is going on?

I slept with 250 reputation points

I wake up with 437

@GreenFly Nothing, just glancing at the other rep train question you posted. Let me know next time you're gonna post a question so I can formulate an answer ASAP.

ANDISAY HEEEEEEYEEEEEEEEEEEEAAH YEEEEAHEEEYEEEEAH

WHAT'S GOIN ON

sorry, Green Fly triggered me.

adnan posted an answer there but it was removed

Oh god, I was wondering what you were saying. Suddenly, I could hear the song in my head.

why?

Oh, he changed his nickname because he thought he's a clever boy.

The first answer is his.

@Polynomial Hey big boy.

@Simon okay okay thank you for explaining

My pleasure.

@Polynomial that was an interesting reaction to green fly

now that I red the starred comments I see that @svetlana is adnan

everybody is having sex change these days

young people!

@GreenFly Just Adnan.

Yep. He wants to know if he's gonna get more profile views like this.

Personally, I think it's a lame excuse to feel what it's like to be a female for a few days.

@Simon so it's like cheating?

@GreenFly One could say so, yes.

That's what @Svetlana does best.

@GreenFly it was a reaction to "what's going on"

@TerryChia I thought that was Iszi

Oh come on people! What's with all the hate? This is a legitimate scientific experiment.

I remember when Adnan wasn't giving head.

@Simon Really?

@GreenFly Dude...

@GreenFly Who?

@GreenFly Are you really still upset with me?

@Svetlana this is different matter

@TerryChia Actually, no I don't, you're right.

Oh god, I just remember that last night I was mad at the hackthissite.org basic mission.

fffffuuuu

@GreenFly Wait a minute, did you just accept Lucas' answer?

Ok, I'm finally on linux. Just insallted ubuntu

@Svetlana LOL

@Svetlana yes because his answer helped me

@Svetlana It's okay, sssssssh

LOL LOL LOL

I rarely type "LOL" but this is a case of LOL.

@GreenFly So that has nothing to do with whatever personal disagreement you started with me?

@HamZa Y U NO FEDORA? :P

@HamZa Good man Hamza.

@TerryChia lol seriously ?

@Svetlana I'm not a child

@TerryChia I could sing you a song about this inspired by One Direction: "Baby Fedora you crash my world like nobody else".

Hey @Svetlana. Want a gold badge?

@GreenFly Alright alright. Whatever you say

@Svetlana damn, but this ubuntu is driving me crazy. With all that crap like suggestions when clicking on videos

@HamZa I hope you at least got rid of that piece of crap Unity.

@ScottPack Yeeeeah...?

@HamZa unity sucks

@TerryChia lol what is that ?

@TerryChia I got used to Unity, it's not so bad.

@HamZa The stupid default DE for Ubuntu.

@Svetlana There. Give it a few minutes. you should be getting Populist soon.

Guys, just give me a couple of links or "words" to search for.

@ScottPack Why?

@HamZa Two, girls, one, cup

Oh oh right right

@TerryChia Ah I see. Well some years back it didn't have such crap ...

@HamZa uvula

@HamZa Buck Angel.

@LucasKauffman NO

@ScottPack Dammit man! Gold badges are the one thing I still beat @Svetlana in.

What are gold badges?!?

@Simon Something the cool kids have.

@Simon You'll get one in 8 months

@TerryChia All the cool kids are no longer cool.

@Svetlana In less than 2 months, sir! :)

Oh wait, wasn't the Yearling badge silver?

@Simon It's what you get for achieving major goals on the site

@LucasKauffman Oh, tell me more about it.

Jesus. Terry has 2 of the 16 populist badges.

@ScottPack That means OP don't like him

Yup, you're gonna get Populist Adnan.

@Svetlana Nah, it's my snarky answers. :P

@Svetlana Truth.

@Simon they're hard to come by

@LucasKauffman Do they even lift?

@Simon some of them require you to flag stuff 500 times

I'm starting to really not like that GreenFly guy

Come on, he's getting you a gold badge.

@Simon He's really taking that edit rejection very personally.

Is that what will happen to us in his age?

@Svetlana I can see that, you deserved the checkmark (no offence Lucas, his answer has more content)

@Svetlana well you see my answer covered the question better.

@Svetlana I'm just trolling ^^

LOLOLOL

@LucasKauffman Honestly, Lucas, I'm not annoyed because of the acceptance

Lucas for president.

I'm just annoyed because he actually dislikes me for absolutely no reason.

@Svetlana I imaged you getting like a bit angry and maybe red when accepted it

easy answer, should I go for it?

The exploit was due to an outdated version of tor, right?

answer: do yo updates, biatch.

@Simon Of Firefox

Which means an old version of Tor.

@Svetlana but I still love you

nope

hi all

Or do they still use the very same old version of FF?

@Simon the issue is that Tor Bundle uses a specialised build of Firefox, and the latest Tor Bundle used an older version of Firefox

@Lonelybaby DO YOUR UPDATES

heh

Does it still use it?

yes

I don't think there's a new release yet.

Wow.

tbf the 0day was only just released a few days ago

So, when I anonymously visit neopets.com, I'm fucked?

no.

@Simon i checked for updates,and i also searched for updates :(

@Simon Firefox, you idiot!!

FIREFOX

it's only if you go to infected onion sites

@Svetlana TOR USES FIREFOX

@Simon You just went complete retard!

The Tor Browser Bundle uses Firefox

Tor itself can be used with ANY browser

^

A transsexual says I went full retard, not sure what to think.

@Polynomial Actually, only FH sites. No other sites reported hosting the exploit

@Svetlana hence why I said "infected onion sites"

So, don't use the bundle.

That's it?

@Svetlana looooveee meee back :'(

though there's nothing to stop someone else using the sploit

pretty much

if you manually config tor + privoxy onto another (safe) browser then you're ok

neopets.com, guess who's back!

Guys, I have several hidden services on Tor, I've researched the topic extensively. It's really of high importance to me

@Polynomial so there is no solution ?

@LucasKauffman <3 :*

@Lonelybaby sure there is. don't use the Tor bundle until they update their version of Firefox.

@Polynomial THEY ALREADY HAVE!

Or never use the bundle again.

or use an alternative browser. but then you'll need to manually configure stuff.

@Polynomial oops ok is it there any way to detect this kind of vulnerablity

@Svetlana they haven't released a proper bundle. there's a bleeding edge release.

Or don't go to CP sites

@Svetlana FH hosts way more than CP sites. THW included.

@Lonelybaby NoScript will save you.

it's reliant on JavaScript being enabled.

so use NoScript to globally blacklist every script.

@Polynomial sigh

@Polynomial great i ll try it out but tor by default doesnt allow flash scripts right?

The exploit will only have negative effect on you if you go to CP sites. FBI aren't really interested if you visit THW

@Lonelybaby no, it doesn't even have the flash plugin installed.

@Svetlana except the exploit can be copypasta'd and customised now that it's out in the public domain.

Oh, you data nerds like @Svetlana might like this one.

data.stackexchange.com/it%20security/query/77379/…

Apparently, my answers are just too awesome to be candidates for the populist badge.

@Polynomial Dude, focus with me for a second

@Polynomial torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en#downloads

> (2.3.25-10)

@Poly Then blog.torproject.org/blog

> Browser Bundle include this fixed version: 2.3.25-10 (released June 26 2013)

ah, fair enough, it's a mainline release now

last I looked it was only on bleeding edge

@Polynomial Not now, since June 26 2013

hmm. are you sure on that one? I was pretty sure they didn't have an update for it until this week.

@Svetlana arent u adnan?

@Polynomial 100%

I remember reading that in two different places.

@Lonelybaby Yes

@Lonelybaby yes. he's sex changed for... I dunno why.

@ScottPack Very interesting

and by sex changed I mean "made himself look like a girl online"

@Polynomial now another scam after iszi :P

@Lonelybaby I don't recognise your username, either. Legit, or changed for the same reason as Adnan?

@Polynomial He's our FRIEND

@Polynomial nope did u remember the user whom always stuck in basics,i came to site as vignesh4303 :)

oh, ok.

whom once kidded u and asked for ur skype

and die hard fan of polynomial :P

you're odd.

@Polynomial i m collecting ur pics on internet ,soon i ll release one blogpost of my role model :)

@Polynomial Can I have yo numba?

@Simon SO CALL ME MAYBE

Maybe.

@Polynomial right now i got this from web will it work gizmodo.com/…

for my tor problem?

"switching away from Windows is probably a good security move." :(

yes

meh, Windows has nothing to do with it.

Linux has just as many bugs these days.

so as compared to linux windows have more vulnerablity?

not really.

It is targeted more, that's the difference.

I'd argue it's bad advice - at least most people that are casual users understand a bit about Windows. stick them on Linux and they're likely to make more dangerous mistakes.

yup basically windows is useer friendly

so basically an user whom knows little english can dig deep into it

@Lonelybaby you are collecting fotos from @Polynomial to create a blog about him and you actually have his skype. You are a bit like a "belieber" but just that tad bit more creepier

@LucasKauffman not got my skype.

@Polynomial He will, eventually.

@Polynomial chmod 777 being the most frequently made one :p

@Svetlana He'd have a job. I don't use it.

@LucasKauffman The other is sudo rm -r /

@LucasKauffman I always do chmod -R 777 / on newly installed distributions, you wouldn't believe how much trouble it saves me!

@Svetlana I think ubuntu blocked that one

@Simon that actually breaks your system :p

@LucasKauffman Haha

@Svetlana which does nothing - patched in coreutils years ago ;]

you have to use --no-preserve-root

though sudo rm -rf /lib will b0rk you pretty good

@Polynomial not when you have backups!

oh wait

lol

@LucasKauffman that definitely breaks the system. clears setuid/setgid bits so all forms of impersonation won't work.

Oh my god, my friend just contacted Antec because a fan in his case makes a grinding noise, here's what they told him to do get a new fan:

"1. Break one of the fan blades off the fan, then take a picture of the fan with the broken blade. Please place fan on the side that the Antec logo showing in the picture."

...

erh what

I'd send another RMA request and get a second opinion.

ah it's to make sure it's actually broken and you aren't just telling them it's broken to get a free fan

@LucasKauffman Makes sense.

@Svetlana So the new version of the bundle was the way to go?

@LucasKauffman aaah, smart. hadn't considered that.

Did we go through ALL THIS when I was right in the very beginning?

Wow.

@Simon Unlikely.

@ScottPack Oh you. One day I'm gonna wear your own hat.

@Simon 11 drive or a 4 hour flight.

@ScottPack 5.5 each?

@Simon you could meet at a love motel.

@LucasKauffman That's the plan.

@Simon It looks like Rochester is the closest place to halfway. nNthing says party like Rahwchestuh.

@Simon I read that in Bane's voice.

It doeshent matter who we are. What mattersh is our plan.

I should watch that movie.

@ScottPack Yes, you should.

Me too, we can do it together in the motel.

@Simon You wouldn't get past the opening credits before giving up and getting to the banging.

explorer.exe just kicked it -_-

@Svetlana What do you have, gnome 3 ?

@LucasKauffman It probably got lost.

@LucasKauffman sexplorer caught an STD

here's a fun game: run explorer.exe as SYSTEM on Windows XP and watch it reset all your user profile settings :P

^ THIS.

what makes that clip is the dude's scream at the end

OOAAOH!

that whole episode was hilarious.

@Polynomial I like the way you think.

I never understand why people say "can't complain" when you ask them how they are. I always want to respond "what, you're being suppressed?"

@Polynomial I always say that :p It's just a bit modest

"not bad thanks" makes much more sense

I always say "good" because I don't want to have a conversation about how I feel.

And most of the time I do feel god because I'm a happy little one.

oh $deity, you know what I just remembered?

Lalala

Bassline! Put a donk on it!

@Simon You felt god? That's just wrong.

:/

and now I can't get it out of my head.

@TerryChia Oh lawd. I'm not gonna edit it now.

@Simon deity-wang-grabber!

@Simon we actually trolled a turkish salesman on the market like that. He came to us and was just "My friend my friend how are you?" and my mate just went "Oh it's just so bad, I miss my family and <insert emotional rant of 5 minutes>" and then at the end he said "But the worst are these random people I don't know trying to sell me stuff by asking me how I am" he then ran off completely pissed off swearing at us :p

@LucasKauffman haha

@LucasKauffman LOL. Success!

I love the ones that are like "good shit! it's good shit for sale my friend!"

my friend went to turkey once and saw a stall entitled "Cheap American Shit"

was epic