The DMZ

Jeff Ferland

00:22

I can't figure out what to do with this shit

I transferred funds to a bitcoin address of mine, but it isn't getting me anywhere

Michael Hampton

@JeffFerland Is your bitcoin client in sync yet?

Jeff Ferland

@MichaelHampton OK, so somebody said something about how I should be getting an email.

Where is email involved in this? :(

Michael Hampton

@JeffFerland I have no idea. What exactly did you do?

Jeff Ferland

@MichaelHampton I guess it's more figuring out what i was supposed to do

I just transferred to a key of my own

Michael Hampton

Using real bitcoin clients, or a third party service provider, or what?

Oh, and BTW...

Lucas Kauffman

03:31

I'm at maximum lazyness today

HamZa

@LucasKauffman it hasn't even started :p

Lucas Kauffman

@HamZa it's 11 AM over here :p

11:36 even

just woke up

HamZa

@LucasKauffman ~5:30AM here ...

Stack Exchange

05:08

Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. There is no road out of this oblivion; we must embrace it. We must join with the darkness. Ba'al the Annihilator offers us no happiness, no answers, naught but the cold embrace of the void. To imagine any other end is delusion. We must give in to the will of Ba'al, for he will one day consume us and our world alike. I therefore call on Congress to fully fund space exploration, and to join with Ba'al, the Eater of Souls. Thank you.

tylerl

05:38

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Half the people who argue on this site about quantum computing have only the remotest understanding of what a quantum computer actually is.

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Lucas Kauffman

think I'm going to try out some laksa today

AviD

06:22

@StackExchange @RoryAlsop @TildalWave @Iszi that should be the motto for Space Exploration - "Support Space.SE and join with Ba'al, Eater of Souls."

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Gilles

07:24

@tylerl and the other half has no understanding at all

Polynomial

10:04

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn

HamZa

Where is @lynks !

Polynomial

Baby don't hurt me!

Don't hurt me!

No more...

HamZa

The CTF should have started and we don't have the cred ...

Lucas Kauffman

11:07

the laksa turned out to be really really really good

I think I shouldn't be moving for the next hour or so

Terry Chia

11:18

0

Q: Using authentication only one time passwords

I would be interested in advice. Imagine a authentication mechanism where users are authenticated ONLY using some code (e.g., one time password) which they receive (say as SMS) on their mobile phone? Is it secure? I think it is not a good practice to rely authentication only on such codes which ...

DUUUUP!

hah! where did you go for it?

Lucas Kauffman

11:46

@TerryChia holland village, 389

was 4 sgd for a big bowl

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman No idea where that is. :P Is it a famous stall or just a random one in a hawker?

Lucas Kauffman

@TerryChia It's supposed to be a decent one: sgfoodonfoot.com/2012/04/363-katong-laksa-holland-village.html

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman Ahhh! Yeah that's a relatively famous one.

It's good.

Lucas Kauffman

I really loved it

there's just too many food stalls in SG :(

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman Yup!

Lucas Kauffman

11:50

@adnan I also found out what they sell at the "Western food" stall, it's fish and chips

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman It's a little far from your place but the food here is nice. bit.ly/18W4Nd6

Huh, what a weird URL.

Lucas Kauffman

@TerryChia tinyurl it

drewl

Where is this located?

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman 20 Kensington Park Road, near Serangoon.

Lucas Kauffman

I have learned how to use the metro yesterday, so now I know no boundaries anymore!

35 minutes with the metro

sounds good

I'm still not comfortable enough with driving on the wrong side of the road to take a car :/

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@TerryChia went to orchard yesterday, also was a nice experience with the ice cream flavors and beef jerky

@TerryChia there's also this very expensive fruit which smells a bit like sewer, is it worth it to buy (it was yellow and costed about 55 SGD) and does it taste better than it smells?

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman I presume you mean durian?

Lucas Kauffman

11:58

yea

it smelled really horrible :/

Terry Chia

Some Singaporeans love it, I don't really like eating too much. I'd say it's a must try though.

Lucas Kauffman

@TerryChia might get one of those from orchard

TildalWave

12:16

Yey! My first 10k SE-wide :)

Lucas Kauffman

@TildalWave gratz

TildalWave

@TerryChia that's illegal on airplanes, no? I mean... it's a stink bomb LOL

@LucasKauffman Cheers!

JimL

12:31

Hey, whenever I hear/read about Prism I hear them say things like "we do not <this and that> against the domestic american population". Well yeah, I'm from europe, pretty curious if you're doing those things to us. Have anyone heard any official statements about data collected (lawfully intercepted) from the rest of the world? Any reference to articles, names or generals would help a lot. I've tried searching but haven't been able to find anything.

Terry Chia

12:42

Bloody hell, I can't believe I wasted so much time writing boilerplate code when something like Play Framework exist....

It appears to be the RoR of the Java world...

TildalWave

@JimL It's only a question of money and political resources how many pies they have their fingers in, really. They can tap on the backbone on major routing points, have "deals" with major providers, pressure other governments,... meaning they'd be tapping on all of us... why do you ask?

Have you been watching Justin Bieber videos again? :))

Lucas Kauffman

@TildalWave it's aparantly illegal on busses in SG

TildalWave

@LucasKauffman watching justin bieber vids?

Lucas Kauffman

@TildalWave that fruit :p

TildalWave

@LucasKauffman oh, the disappointment :(

and it's durian... I've just had it not a week ago... pretty good, but stinks of rotten eggs + fecal matter + rotten teeth or something like that when you cut it open LOL

JimL

12:56

@TildalWave It's just interesting how they seem to only focus on how they monitor the US citizents. But one would have to assume that's the only place they've got any restrictions at all, in which case that would be the easiest to talk about. I don't really worry too much regarding my own data or surfing habits. But it worries me that our politicians and companies are tapped by the US.

Terry Chia

@JimL There isn't anything inherently wrong with a country spying on another country. You are a fool if you think countries in Europe aren't doing the same thing.

Lucas Kauffman

^+1

JimL

I'm no fool :) But we've never seen anything as large and intrusive as this before. Hacking machines and VPNs? now that's just nasty.. :P

TildalWave

@JimL well, their projects are paid for by the American taxpayer's money, so that's their first accountability concern, I guess

Lucas Kauffman

9/10 they are even contributing

@JimL eh, APT1?

Terry Chia

12:59

@JimL From what I have read about PRISM, it has nothing to do with hacking. It's just the government asking American companies for the data they already collect.

Lucas Kauffman

chinese made it into a regular job

TildalWave

@JimL Just assume there's nothing they don't know about... then think of how much it matters to them what your browsing habits are ;)

Lucas Kauffman

PRISM is just datamining

Terry Chia

Frankly, I think it's a big fuss over nothing.

Lucas Kauffman

@TerryChia BUT MY PRIVACY D:

Terry Chia

12:59

I'll be more shocked if the spy agencies don't you know..... spy?

JimL

@TildalWave as said earlier, I'm not worried about myself.

TildalWave

@LucasKauffman your privacy doesn't count when you ask others to provide it

Terry Chia

It's only a big deal because all the big tech companies people are familiar with are located in the USA.

Lucas Kauffman

@TildalWave I shall now run to the bush and live as a caveman

TildalWave

@JimL yeah... I'm just having some fun :P It's hot here again

Thomas Pornin

13:00

@JimL US agencies respond only to US Law, and US Law talks only about US citizens (and possibly about non-US citizen who happen to be on US territory). As a rule, people in a country give a damn about other countries only insofar as these other countries have bigger nukes.

Antony Vennard

@TerryChia I personally think the whole thing is shocking. A government has pulled off a large successful I.T. project !! I am stunned.

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TildalWave

@LucasKauffman Where would that be? Jungles of Java? Sumatra? There's german tourists everywhere man! ;))

Thomas Pornin

See Guantanamo: Americans are not overly worried about it because torture happens on non-Americans and in a place which is NOT American territory.

Terry Chia

@AntonyVennard True! That should be the real headline.

Lucas Kauffman

@TildalWave To the roof of the marina hotel (?) here in SG

JimL

13:02

@ThomasPornin fair point

on to developing bigger nukes then :)

ttyl

TildalWave

@LucasKauffman Oh... that sort of bushes and caves ... OK, I'll leave you to it then :))

Antony Vennard

@TerryChia Someone should ask the NSA if they'd like to sort out the NHS patient record system thingy. It's not quite as exciting as terrorism, granted, but hey sometimes you have to diversify.

Lucas Kauffman

@TildalWave haha

TildalWave

@LucasKauffman Have you gender-tested @TerryChia already? Not implying anything, mind you... it's your business what you're up to there, just curious if there's anything we could gain from this whole experience of yours too :P

maybe she's gorgeous? :)))

Lucas Kauffman

@TildalWave If @TerryChia turns out to be a girl.... interesting theory

Polynomial

13:14

@LucasKauffman interesting parenting technique there.

Lucas Kauffman

"Belgian man apprehended in Singapore for sexual harassment, the man claimed it was just a mere 'gender verification'."

Antony Vennard

@ThomasPornin Or large reserves of oil.

TildalWave

@ThomasPornin Wanna drop an answer to my question on deorbiting space debris? The question is slightly argumentative (not discussing technical or financial aspects but safety, environmental, political, legal,...)? I think you'd be the right one to drop a good answer there. There's two answers that don't really satisfy my criteria on what's a good answer LOL

Thomas Pornin

@TildalWave I don't follow space.SE regularly. A pointer, maybe ? I'll see what I can do.

TildalWave

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Q: Any possible setbacks in deorbiting larger space junk and let it burn up upon reentry into atmosphere?

Space junk, orbital debris, or space waste pose a risk on functional satellites and space laboratories / stations in orbit around Earth. According to Wikipedia: Currently about 19,000 pieces of debris larger than 5 cm are tracked, with another 300,000 pieces smaller than 1 cm below 2000 km ...

space-junk

I've included a link to a relevant answer from before... and there's another question discussing where most space debris are, if that helps

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Q: Reason for space debris clustering in LEO

A paper (Active Debris Removal: EDDE) contained this diagram of orbital debris. This is the angle seen by the spacecraft horizontally and altitude vertically. What are the reasons for the lines and clusters of objects on this scale? Looking at lines around 1000 km and 1500 km, I'm wondering ...

low-earth-orbit space-debris

Adnan

13:33

@TildalWave Now you have the privilege to get annoyed by other people's idiotic flags

Simon

I will sacrifice my future fanatic badge this weekend.

Too lazy to set up a refresher

And I'm gonna be gone next weekend too so I'd have to set it up twice, fuck that.

Adnan

@Simon You said you can do it with a firefox addon

TildalWave

@Adnan Not sure what you mean? I don't have 10k on a single site... just all SE sites together LOL... I'm not so good at catching rep trains, even though I bought a ticket many times, I kinda missed the train because of all the goodbye kisses :))

Simon

Yeah, but I'd need to steal my girlfriend's keyboard to plug it into my server. Also would need to set the screen.

Adnan

@TildalWave I believe that with 10k network-wide you can decide on chat flags.

@Simon What are you talking about?! Just leave your computer on

@Tilda Let's try it, I'll flag @Simon

@TildalWave Saw it?

TildalWave

13:37

@Adnan hmmm.... no? what am I looking for? Simon is flagging-worthy as it is :))

it might take some time for any privileges out of it to come into effect

Adnan

@TildalWave You see where you were notified about this message? Next to it you should see a small blue circle

@Tilda Try to refresh this page

No?

TildalWave

@Adnan I did but there's no change... oh wait, it just appeared, you're adding and removing it?

it disappeared again

where's @Griffin when you need him? LOL

Adnan

@TildalWave Yeah that was it. It appears for others as well, and when they respond to it, it disappears.

TildalWave

@Adnan cool, now I'll see troublemakers even better :) (as if needed)

Simon

@Adnan Maybe that's what I'll do. For now, I gotta manage to properly get the party's location in this GPS.

Picky piece of junk.

Ethan

13:50

whats a breach

Adnan

@Ethan arstechnica.com/security/2013/08/…

Adnan

14:20

Anybody knows a good deepnet email service?

Thomas Pornin

@TildalWave Answer posted.

TildalWave

@ThomasPornin Thanks, I knew I can count on you to provide more perspective on the matter!

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A: Any possible setbacks in deorbiting larger space junk and let it burn up upon reentry into atmosphere?

Reentry can be hazardous, for several reasons: The debris might not burn up completely. Whether a given object will be consumed in the upper atmosphere depends a lot on its materials, shape, velocity, reentry trajectory, and even direction (to take an extreme example, a Gemini spacecraft had a ...

Upvotes please!

Adnan

@TildalWave Have you read it yet?

TildalWave

@ThomasPornin And there's another answer of yours that I really liked... I'll post it here also, if that's not considered cross-site spamming?

@Adnan Of course

Thomas Pornin

@TildalWave My production cannot be considered as spam. Under any circumstance. That's an absolute.

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TildalWave

14:23

@ThomasPornin Oh yes, I do apologise! :)

3

A: Radiation shielding magnetic or mass, which is more efficient?

In space (within the Solar system), you will get mostly two types of "radiation" that have health consequences: Photons of various energy, from long wave radio to gamma rays. High-energy charged particles, mostly electrons and protons ejected from the Sun upper atmosphere (this is known as the ...

Adnan

14:46

@ton.yeung I'm pretty sure that a lot of galactic virgins are already browsing it

Adnan

14:57

@Lucas I've just noticed that the thing in your picture isn't a dog.

Polynomial

@Adnan LLLLLLLLLLLLLAMADRAMA!

Adnan

@Polynomial I have zero ideas you've just said

Polynomial

it's a llama

so I said llamadrama

Adnan

@Polynomial Waaaaaait a second. Lama is written with double L ?

My mind is figuratively blown!

Thomas Pornin

@Adnan No, "lama" is written with a single "l". It is "llama" which takes two "l".

Adnan

15:03

@ThomasPornin I really thought they're the same thing

Lama (genus)

Lama is the modern genus name for two South American camelids, the wild guanaco and the domesticated llama. This genus is closely allied to the wild vicuña and domesticated alpaca of the genus Vicugna. Before the Spanish conquest of the Americas, llamas and alpacas were the only domesticated ungulates of the continent. They were kept not only for their value as beasts of burden, but also for their flesh, hides, and wool. Classification Although they were often compared to sheep by early writers, their affinity to the camel was soon perceived. They were included in the genus Camelus ...

Llama

The llama (; or ) (Lama glama) is a domesticated South American camelid, widely used as a meat and pack animal by Andean cultures since pre-Hispanic times. The height of a full-grown, full-size llama is 1.7 to 1.8 m (5.5 to 6.0 ft) tall at the top of the head, and can weigh between 130 and 200 kg (280 to 450 lb). At birth, a baby llama (called a cria) can weigh between 9 and 14 kg (20 and 30 lb). Llamas can live for about 20–30 years with good care. They are very social animals and live with other llamas as a herd. The wool produced by a llama is very...

TildalWave

@ton.yeung well we're now in the process of promoting the site to wider audiences, so yes I expect some of them to drop by... and I believe we already have some actual engineers and others involved in space missions, but we could use a great deal more of those

Adnan

To my untrained eye they look the same

Thomas Pornin

@Adnan Technically, "lama" is latin for the genus, which includes four species, one of them being called "lama" in French but "llama" in English.

TildalWave

@Adnan racist!

Adnan

@TildalWave That would be Specist.

@ThomasPornin Ahaaa.. well that explains it

I can't believe I watched this 2 times already

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TildalWave

15:07

@Adnan hairstyle-ist!

Thomas Pornin

@Adnan Apparently the English name comes from Spanish "llama", which itself comes from a Quecha word (which was pronounced that way, but not written because there was no writing in the Inca empire), and adopted the spelling of another Spanish word, "llama", meaning "flame".

Adnan

@ThomasPornin But how do you pronounce 'llama'. Is it like 'lélama'?

or just the same as 'lama'?

Well, according to Merriam Webster it's the same as 'lama'.

Polynomial

15:22

you pronounce it the same

but yeah most people spell it llama

here a llama there a llama and another little llama

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(most random song ever)

damn, that must be a decade old now

Adnan

@Polynomial Great! Now I have a new song stuck in my head. Thanks!

Polynomial

@Adnan I was at school when that came out. Every kid sung it. Every day. For months.

Antony Vennard

@Polynomial This is why I would never consider becoming a teacher ever.

Pokemon and yoyos were bad enough (dude, has your yoyo got ball bearings????)

Polynomial

@AntonyVennard That and you'd have to explain your internet activities to get clearance ;]

Antony Vennard

@Polynomial Heh, that wouldn't be v exciting, which is presumably a good thing.

Polynomial

15:34

DV clearance is like that, except they explicitly ask you about your sexual interests.

AviD

@Polynomial (a) Males (b) Females (c) @TerryChia

Antony Vennard

"I'm feeling lucky"

Sorry.

@Polynomial mmmm yeah I heard about that.

Polynomial

in the words of my DV interviewer, "just tits and arse, or something more unusual?"

"vagina" is apparently not the right answer.

AviD

@Polynomial lol, seriously? Thats just horrible.

Polynomial

yeah they actually ask that kinda stuff

but it is the highest level of civilian security clearance.

AviD

15:39

@Polynomial Sure, in London that's pretty deviant.

Polynomial

they don't give a shit what your answer is. they're trying to work out if it's something someone could use as leverage over you

AviD

@Polynomial never did understand why one's sexual preferences are relevant to this.

Polynomial

so even if you're into getting shat on by midgets, that's fine, as long as you're not going to be so averse to having that kinda thing released in the public domain by someone that you'd reveal govm't secrets if you were being blackmailed.

AviD

If you dont steal some information for me, I will tell the world how you like it!

Antony Vennard

@Polynomial Well, given I have a history with MH (anxiety disorder in late teens) I reckon they'd be more interested in that than my sexual preferences.

Polynomial

15:41

exactly.

AviD

stupid.

Polynomial

@AntonyVennard they ask about mental health too.

and alcohol / drug consumption

again with 99% of it they do not give a shit

they're just interested to see if (a) you're honest and (b) you can't be leveraged by irt

they also check your financial history and that of your siblings

AviD

okay, honest I get, well unless you have no interest in sharing intimate details of your personal life.

Polynomial

hence why the DV is optional.

Antony Vennard

@Polynomial Not surprised really.

@Polynomial Really? I'm not so sure, although I admit I know nothing about it. I would have thought any history with MH would pretty much rule you out?

Polynomial

15:47

@AntonyVennard Nope. Basically they're worried about any MH issues that might lead you to divulge info, e.g. schizophrenia.

but even in those cases they're just looking at a risk model.

I had to go through all this because they ask about MH of your partner.

AviD

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Antony Vennard

@Polynomial Oh. Okay. That's more reasonable than I expected.

Generally when I tell HR people "I used to have an anxiety disorder and it wasn't pretty" the reaction is... interesting.

Polynomial

@AviD I like that :D

@AntonyVennard In this case it's all between you and the DV clearance officer.

AviD

@Polynomial Welcome to the firm.

Polynomial

all confidential. only potential problems get noted down, and then it's only the relevant details

and all of that is covered by DPA

Antony Vennard

15:52

@AviD That's brilliant.

Adnan

@AviD I lost it at "I'm a flaming homosexual"

Antony Vennard

@Polynomial Unfortunately there's some CV events need explaining usually.

Adnan

and that does not mean I'm gay.. BEEEEP

Antony Vennard

So HR generally have to be told.

@Adnan I like the "how much did you steal" bit.

and the bit about sending the report over.

Adnan

16:31

@ton.yeung No, Ubuntu will automatically choose a hostname for you

Just open a terminal and type hostname to find it

Terry Chia

@ton.yeung You don't have it resolved on your client.

Adnan

@ton.yeung I'm not very good with networking or network configurations, but as far as I can remember, it takes some time for clients on the same LAN. At least with Windows hosts

Terry Chia

@ton.yeung I presume you cannot ping the server from your own machine? You need to configure the DNS.

Adnan

@TerryChia Those are two different things

Antony Vennard

@ton.yeung Your router might be able to do it, depending on what it is. Alternatively you can edit your hosts file on the windows box, which basically acts like dns.

@ton.yeung Windows hosts have a protocol to autodiscover each other by netbios name - surprisingly this is the netbios protocol. Linux doesn't, although I think if you install samba you might get the netbios bit too. Not sure though. I am also a lowly dev.

Adnan

16:38

@AntonyVennard Am I the only one under the assumption that you don't need to configure any DNS-related settings to communicate with your boxes using their hostnames?

Terry Chia

@Adnan Is it possible to do it otherwise? Mind pointing out how? That would be news for me.

Well, at least for Linux. I'm not sure about Windows.

Adnan

@TerryChia Honestly, you probably know more than I do. I'm just confused.

@TerryChia I remember setting up several Windows machines (and Linux machines with SAMBA) and I used to be able to ping them and access their webservers using just the hostname.

I don't remember ever setting up and DNS-related configurations

Terry Chia

Does Windows have support for something similar to alias in bash? That's how I would do it in Linux. A lot easier than messing around with DNS configs.

Adnan

@TerryChia Not even with alias.

Terry Chia

@Adnan @AntonyVennard pointed out NetBIOS. That might work although I have no experience with it.

Adnan

16:41

@TerryChia It could be NetBios, yeah.

Antony Vennard

@ton.yeung Not quite, dns is its own protocol. Netbios/sambda/wins are windows protocols that make 2workgroups" work without needing a central dns server. DNS is what answers when you ask for a domain name, and you can use this if you want.

Terry Chia

@ton.yeung The easiest way is probably to edit the host file on your machine since you are talking about 1 client and a couple of servers only.

If you want to scale beyond that you should spend time configuring the DNS properly.

Antony Vennard

The hosts file is used as part of dns lookup (before outgoing).

@ton.yeung exactly

netbios might be the wrong name these days. there's other parts to it called wins and such, but netbios is the one I know ;)

Griffin

@tida

Antony Vennard

@ton.yeung if you wireshark your windows box you'll see it talking to other things, making queries etc. that's the old netsambabioswinsthing

Griffin

16:45

@TildalWave I am here now my love.

Antony Vennard

@ton.yeung it's quite talkative

David Freitag

I thought NetBios was disabled by default on newer versions of windows?

Terry Chia

@ton.yeung I think you will want to look into properly configuring DNS in that case.

@ton.yeung Ehhh, just read up on resolv.conf. The man page is pretty self-explanatory if boring.

But it's quite a bit of work if you aren't a sysadmin.

Blah, not thinking straight. You will need to setup a DNS server as well.

@ton.yeung Obligatory plug for RedHat and RHEL. :P

Antony Vennard

@ton.yeung go to the login page. It should auto log you in. If you block js, make sure you allow stackauth.com

Obligatory plug for Fedora. Live on the bleeding edge ;)

Terry Chia

@AntonyVennard Fedora for desktop. RHEL/CentOS for servers. :P

Or heck, just go for Gentoo.

Antony Vennard

16:55

@TerryChia Reminds me of "I'm drunk, let's try installing FreeBSD".

I think that might have been an XKCD.

Terry Chia

At 8 drinks, you switch the torrent from FreeBSD to Microsoft Bob. C'mon, it'll be fun!

Antony Vennard

@TerryChia That's the one

Also, typing with one arm is v hard.

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Terry Chia

@AntonyVennard That's just sad.

;)

Antony Vennard

@TerryChia I don't have much choice as the other one is stuck in a sling. Itching me.

It doesn't hurt much, bit itching under the bandage is not funny.

Oh I just got the joke. Wow that was slow.

Terry Chia

@ton.yeung Are you building up the stuff from scratch? That's a huge pain in the ass if you don't know what you are doing.

Antony Vennard

16:59

@ton.yeung Nope. Windows servers do dns, as does almost every unix variant.

Terry Chia

@AntonyVennard Hehe

David Freitag

@TerryChia But that's the best way to learn things, the hard way =]

Terry Chia

Alright, bedtime. @ton.yeung Good luck with the process, but I strongly recommend hiring a real sysadmin to do the work if it's for anything remotely important.

@DavidFreitag Not on production servers it's not. ;)

David Freitag

@TerryChia Eh production server, dev box, what's the difference?

Terry Chia

@ton.yeung Well, spin up a server on a virtual machine and play around with the configs.

@DavidFreitag One angry boss.

David Freitag

17:02

@TerryChia Only if you fuck up.

Terry Chia

@ton.yeung Well, I still strongly recommend using virtual machines. It's easier to rollback changes if you make mistakes.

@DavidFreitag What are the odds right?

David Freitag

Yeah, plus firing up a VM doesn't take much.

@TerryChia Yeah, the chances of something blowing up because you have no idea what you are doing are probably pretty good. Unless you just saved a few families from a burning building.

Terry Chia

I once fucked up a server I was SSH-ed into because I thought I was on my local machine. Thankfully it was just a server for a school project and I could just ask my lecturer to reboot it.

David Freitag

@ton.yeung Virtualbox, it's free.

Terry Chia

Ok, nighty nights. :)

David Freitag

17:04

Made by Oracle, it has its bugs, but so does VMWare. virtualbox.org

Two VM's, one DNS and one Client

You need to configure the virtual NICs so that they won't connect to anything other than the virtual network

Adnan

@TerryChia See ya

Griffin

Just burn everything

David Freitag

@ton.yeung Lol, well i tried =/

Griffin

BURN EVERYTHING!

Adnan

@Griffin I don't know, I like many things.

Griffin

17:10

@Adnan ....... Good point

BURN ALL THE SHIT WE DISLIKE!

David Freitag

@Griffin I'll get my flamethrower

Griffin

@DavidFreitag I'll round up the children.

Adnan

@Griffin I'll round up the Americans

David Freitag

@ton.yeung Well, there's a difference between running and running correctly

Griffin

@Adnan Hey.... wait a second.

Adnan

17:11

@DavidFreitag Waaaaait a second! You have a flamethrower? Now you got my attention

David Freitag

But... i'm american...

Griffin

I'm also american..

David Freitag

@Adnan Yes, and 13lbs of cured thermite bricks.

Adnan

But, luckily, I'm not an American. See my point?

Griffin

@Adnan He's only got a flamethrower because he's american.

You die first..

David Freitag

17:12

I modified my potato cannon to fire the thermite bricks, it ignites a magnesium strip as the brick leaves the barrel. Now you have 1/2lb of burning thermite coming at you.

Come at me bro.

Adnan

@DavidFreitag What's the effective range?

Griffin

He can't the brick already came at him.

2000 yards.

David Freitag

@Adnan Uhh, what's the effective range of a regular potato gun...? A football (american) field?

Little bit of lighter fluid or some industrial strength hair spray and fun.

Griffin

►

Adnan

@DavidFreitag Well then I'd stand 1.5 football fields away and hit you with 7.62 out of an M24 right in the flamethrower, if you know what I mean.

David Freitag

17:15

But these thermite bricks were originally designed to be placed on the hood of a car, usually right on top of where the engine block should be.

Light the magnesium fuse and walk away.

Griffin

boingboing.net/2009/06/07/the-mother-of-all-po.html

David Freitag

@Adnan I would get Abraham Lincoln riding an eagle to shoot you, while eating a cheeseburger and reloading a rifle.

@Griffin It's a hand-held potato gun.

Griffin

Closest thing I've got everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/…

Adnan

@DavidFreitag Yup, too 'Murican for me. I'm out of here

David Freitag

@Adnan Lol. 'Merica, Fuck yeah.

Adnan

17:18

Speaking of whic, @Xander @Scott youtube.com/watch?v=xohy9gWz7kk (a .950 cal rifle)

David Freitag

But seriously though, if you have anyone you know who you think wants a hole cut through their engine block, let me know.

I can make it happen.

Xander

@Adnan Wow! That thing is nuts.

Adnan

@Xander I think it can be used as an anti tank

(joke, of course)

TildalWave

@Griffin Too late... we've already abused @Simon's behind for the demonstrative purposes, but nice of you to offer your "services" :))

Iszi

@DavidFreitag Why bother specifying? There's only about 4m difference in length between the two.

TildalWave

17:28

@Griffin LOL with the same music background it was used for the Liberator :) Attack of the killer potatoes! LOL

David Freitag

@Iszi I don't know the size of a soccer field.

I'm too busy melting things.

Iszi

@DavidFreitag Neither do I, but Wiki does.

Griffin

@TildalWave Any time. And I'm in the middle of a game

Iszi

Football field

Football field or football pitch may refer to the playing areas of several codes of football: , * Association football pitch, a rectangular field, usually or * American football field, a rectangular field, or * Australian rules football playing field, a large oval-shaped field, usually long goal to goal and wide wing to wing * Canadian football field, a rectangular field, or * Gaelic football playing field, a rectangular field, long and wide * Rugby league playing field, a rectangular field, long and wide See also * Football field (length), an unusual unit of length * Football ...

David Freitag

@Iszi It was spur of the moment, i realized that not everyone here lives in America, since i didn't want to waste time looking it up, i just stuck the parentheses in.

Xander

17:35

@Adnan No doubt! Those shells looked like grenades.

David Freitag

@Xander At .950 caliber the bullets alone would be nearly 1" in diameter.

Iszi

@DavidFreitag Lazy-ass.

This is me, today.

David Freitag

@Iszi Pretty much. Although to be honest i am fairly busy outside of chat.

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