The DMZ

@forest so the "b" of "wbu/hbu" is "about"? gosh, if it's not even the good letter in acronyms/abreviations...

Anonymous

It's a lot better than just typing "ahahah"

Basically lol means you found something funny, lmao means you found something really funny. lmfao means you found something really, really funny. And rofl is like lmao.

Anonymous

And yes Keptox the B is about.

i mean, you/u is a common one, but how i am suppose to know that b = about?

10:00 AM

To be simple, I just understand lol, lmfao, etc. just means "laugh"

Anonymous

Keptox, yeah you wouldn't unless you were native.

That's pretty much all it is, just lol < lmao < lmfao in terms of how "intense" it is.

And no relation to ass or something like that

Anonymous

An example in Britain for that is this world "alright"

Anonymous

That usually means okay.

Anonymous

10:01 AM

But if you walk past someone you will both say "alright"

Anonymous

And it just means like hello.

weird

Anonymous

We do it all the time, the classic "Alright" with a nod.

"alright" is completely okay because it is very common

Anonymous

Well Daya, yes it's common.

10:02 AM

Well sometimes you have slang like "aight" which means the same thing.

Anonymous

But it's just another word for okay.

Anonymous

But in England we use it as a greeting too.

"alright" means hello, that's weird

Anonymous

Yes, here we use it for a greeting.

Anonymous

As well as confirmation.

10:03 AM

I haven't heard it used like that before. Must be very specific to Britain.

Yeah confirmation makes sense Josh

Anonymous

It is very specific to Britain, yes.

For me at least, alright means either "okay" or "acceptable, not good not bad".

Anonymous

Us Brits are uptight so it's a good way of greeting someone without actually really saying much to them.

Anonymous

It's quick.

10:04 AM

heh

Anonymous

Oh yes that's another way we use it as well. "How are you?" - "Alright"

Anonymous

:D bloody Brits ;)

Yeah that's used here too.

again, forest please tell what "heh" mean?

@daya It's like a small laugh. A chuckle.

10:04 AM

Oh

Anonymous

Forest have you ever heard of Adeos?

I have not.

Adios maybe?

Anonymous

Nevermind.

Anonymous

Nobody really uses "heh" here.

Anonymous

We tend to use lol more.

10:05 AM

It's really only used online.

Anonymous

Nothing is worse when you're reading a chat and you actually laugh out loud in the middle of a room.

We could have resolved the problem for non-natives like me If we used emoticons like whatsapp or any messaging app.

To be fair, the kind of places I hang out tend to be the kinds of places that strongly reject popular social media culture, so I would not be surprised if heh was just an alternative to lol that didn't sound quite so... text-speak.

Anonymous

I can imagine that's the type of places you hang out, lol.

Anonymous

We're too social media culture for you here, huh? ;)

10:07 AM

／人◕‿‿◕人＼

Anonymous

Do you use that alias everywhere?

What, forest?

Anonymous

Si, senor.

No. Made it up for this one site.

Anonymous

I figured.

10:09 AM

@Joshua.J meaning of "huh"?

Anonymous

It depends on the context.

It's just a sound. It's like the Canadian "eh?".

Sorry, but it is very frustating to google everything..

huh

Interjection: huh

(with falling pitch) used to express amusement or subtle surprise.
Huh! I'm sure I locked it when I left.
Used to express doubt or confusion.
Huh? Where did they go?
(with rising pitch) Used to reinforce a question.

(8 more not shown…)

(wiktionary is awesome)

Anonymous

Yeah.

Anonymous

10:10 AM

It has a lot of meanings and use.

Yeah "Subtle surprise" makes sense.

Anonymous

I use it mostly when I don't understand something.

Anonymous

So pretty much 95% of what Forest types is a "huh" for me ;)

lol

Anonymous

As Tom said, it's hard to tell if it's his bot typing or him sometimes.

10:12 AM

:P

But I would instead use "what" as an alternative to "huh" because it makes more sense to me

Anonymous

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Anonymous

"What" can be considered rude over here.

What would be strange to use at the end of a sentence.

Anonymous

If you don't understand something or misheard and you say "What?" some people can see that as rude.

10:13 AM

Like you can say "question, huh?" but not "question, what?" quite as easily.

Anonymous

^ Also that.

Yeah It can be interprerted as rude

Plus what usually explicitly asks for more information, whereas huh can just mean "ok, guess I didn't know that". As in "I didn't know you could do it that way, huh."

@Joshua.J but i wouldn't know how to interpret a "huh"

Anonymous

@Kepotx Yeah, it's hard if you're not native English.

10:14 AM

It's just an onamonapia, so it can be strange if that sound isn't made in your language.

Anonymous

And it can be hard for me as well because I have a hard time understanding what people mean a lot.

guess i could understand it depending on context but thing is, when you don't know how it will be interpreted, it can be a problem

Anonymous

English is hard.

Anonymous

Words are hard in general.

@forest well, similar ones are used in french, but some onomatopies really differ

10:16 AM

No @Joshua.J English itself is not really hard

Oh for sure. Cats are "meow" in English and "nyaa" in Japanese.

Anonymous

If you learned it in an English speaking country your opinion would be completely different.

The hard part is only the slangs I listed above

livinglanguage.com/blog/2013/03/08/… wow

Anonymous

Where you live, they won't teach you much past basic English.

Anonymous

10:17 AM

Education in English in primarily English speaking countries is completely different.

Anonymous

I can assure you.

May be

Anonymous

Just like the Spanish I learned in school is completely different to learning Spanish in Spanish education./

Anonymous

They teach it at a much-much lower level.

@forest and Josh But Suppose you are learning a language like "Hindi" which is my native language

10:18 AM

Well because they only want to teach you things like basic syntax and grammar.

Anonymous

Especially in school, college, things like that.

Anonymous

Precisely Forest.

You can never learn what words we use in our hangouts

Anonymous

So when Daya says English isn't hard, it might not be for the level he's at but as he's not in a primarily speaking English country it is completely different.

There's no one exact "English" since there are so many variations. From a southern drawl to ghetto slang to British slang for English, they're so very different even if they share the same basic sentence structure and grammar.

Anonymous

10:19 AM

Learning English in England at least is nothing like what you might expect.

So they teach something that can generally be extended to any kind of English.

Anonymous

Well, that is my point Daya, English might be easy for you to learn because the level they taught/are teaching you.

Wow, the chat is going all loopy on me again.

Anonymous

Me too Forest.

Cause you both are english speakers :p

Anonymous

10:21 AM

But if you learned it here it would be completely different. It's the same for me, if I learned Hindi here it might be quite easy after a year but if I went to a primarily speaking country and learned it, it's completely different.

Anonymous

Yes but that is my point Daya.

Anonymous

:p

@daya don't know how education is in your country but for english, i learned to recognized basic accent, learn that this world is vulgar or this one is formal... but yeah, it will still be universal language, that may differ from day to day, local language

Anonymous

Yeah exactly, you will only learn really basic English that you can use almost anywhere.

The other thing is that English speakers often don't realize why they say things the way they say. They don't realize exactly how complex or unintuitive what they are saying is.

Anonymous

10:23 AM

That's true.

Anonymous

Some phrases we use don't even make sense, we still use them.

@Kepotx I do know difference between vulgar and formal words but the only problem was mostly slangs

I mean, how many native English speakers here have realized that you are with the singular you is proper English, but breaks grammatical numbering (it would make more sense if it were you is)? Or that something like it's okay is the proper way to say it is okay, but you can't say yes it's to mean yes it is?

@forest that's the case for me with basque, wich is my native language. I try to help my girlfriend so she can learn a little bit, but really often, when she ask "why this phrase is in this order and not this one", or similar things, i just don't know what to answer. I just speak it in intuitive way, but i can't tell the rule behind it

That's why we study English even deep into our upper education :P

And don't even get me started on spelling!

10:24 AM

And as English is a international language, it is taught in different countries as a primary subject from their very childhood like 1st or 2nd standard

Anonymous

I've never been interested in languages.

Anonymous

It just bores the fuck out of me.

Anonymous

I mean I try and use correct grammar and sometimes it's correct and sometimes it's not.

But As I said you would never know what informal words english speakers actually use in there day-to-do life

Anonymous

People that type like this "Suh how r u m8?"

Anonymous

10:26 AM

They make me want to bang my head into the wall.

@Joshua.J It used to bore me too, but the history of linguistics is kind of neat. I mean, how often can you tell people that what used to be pronounced with an unvoiced labiovellar approximate, or that Finnish is part of the Finno-Ugric and Uralic language groups? It means so little, but it sounds so cool!

Linguists certainly have some very neat terminology to make it less boring.

lol, it's true @Joshua.J

BTW, you know any other language than English?

Anonymous

I guess it's just something that I've never been interested in because of school, in all honesty.

Anonymous

Not really Daya, I can speak a tiny bit of Spanish.

have sum b8: lolwut y u no liek potato txt speak m8? h8rs b h8ing! nigga pls!

10:28 AM

forest, wtf is this?

@daya The most stupid text speak I could think of. :P

lol

Anonymous

Yeah I cannot stand it Forest.

Anonymous

Drives me mad.

I only ever use it ironically.

10:30 AM

"lol what, why you don't like potato text speak mate? haters be hating! colourfull people, please!" Am i right?

Pretty much. Potato is slang for dumb or retarded.

Anonymous

I don't think we have that one in the UK Forest.

Anonymous

"Potato" = dumb.

Well it's pretty much just online.

For example, Hindi equivalent of "how are you" is "कैसे हो"

How hard was it to understand for you guys?

10:32 AM

That Hindi? I can't even make out the characters.

well, as we can't even read the alphabet, it's hard to tell

@Joshua.J It came from the meme "I can count to potato" which some down syndrome girl said. That made it synonymous with retardation. So one might say "my router is a potato" to mean it's really bad and slow, or "my brain is just potato" to mean you really can't think and are acting retarded.

Anonymous

@forest I see. You ever seen the video of the girl who thought her baby was Jesus?

I never have.

Was it a recent thing?

no, 2000 years ago

Anonymous

10:33 AM

Not really, saw it ages ago on YouTube.

Anonymous

It's funny though.

Anonymous

The level of density from that girl makes me question if the Earth is real.

So, that's the point. You can easily understand it if you learn just basics of Hindi

On the other hand, what we speak informally, you can never learn

Same with english

Anonymous

Well, if you live there you can learn it probably.

If you grow up there maybe.

Anonymous

10:34 AM

Just like if you lived in East London you could learn Cockney Rhyme and Slang eventually.

Anonymous

It just takes a lot of time.

Yeah, same is true for English as well

a question about hindi: as social hierarchy is really strong with casts, are there language diferences between upper class and lower class?

i mean, there are in every language, but is it more in languages such as hindi?

@Kepotx It's that way in a lot of countries, even in English.

@Kepotx There are 19 different languages are spoken in India

Anonymous

10:36 AM

Class is very, very prevalent here.

But majority of people knows and understands HIndi

Every state has it own language

Anonymous

And a lot of people in England believe you're in the class you're born in so to speak.

Well I have to go now, but here, have a parting comment to trigger anyone who's OCD about English: reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/357v40/i_holehardedly_agree

@daya sure, but within the same state, do a brahman speak the same as a vaisyas, or a sudra?

Anonymous

SFW?

10:38 AM

Yes

Anonymous

Thanks.

@Kepotx yeah of course!

Anonymous

Jesus Forest.

Anonymous

The first few sentences have killed me.

Wow! @Kepotx You know about various castes in India

10:39 AM

even if they can understand each other, didn't they have some particular words, idoms and such?

@Joshua.J You might have to come to this conclusion through denial and error but I swear on my mother's mating name that when you put the petal to the medal you will pass with flying carpets like it’s a peach of cake!

Anonymous

lol.

@Kepotx No Actually, there are no particular idioms and such

Anonymous

You'll all be pleased to know I couldn't convince management to let me run Linux.

Anonymous

And now I am sad.

10:41 AM

@daya thanks to CK2 ^^ also, the sudras are well-known (at elast in france) as it's a strong symbol of diferent castes

As I said this can be differ in various states but not in people itself in same state

@Kepotx Yeah, they are also known as "Dalits" often

specially by politicians

I have to go now

in france, the word "untouchable" is sometimes used, is it common in india too?

Yes,

But it is english word

less often used

Anonymous

11:05 AM

Uhh I've got a call with Cisco TAC in 30 minutes.

Anonymous

This'll be fun

11:16 AM

This is cute

11:30 AM

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frame rate + poor quality

make
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thank
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Anonymous

more

Anonymous

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Anonymous

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Anonymous

11:44 AM

problem

Anonymous

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Anonymous

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Anonymous

11:44 AM

too

thanks

as a treat, have this: blog.checkpoint.com/2018/08/12/faxploit-hp-printer-fax-exploit

"With merely a fax number as its sole piece of information, however, our team of researchers was able to penetrate though the vulnerabilities inherent in the fax protocol to gain access to an entire IT network."

funny, when you publish a vuln and you have to explain to people why it is relevant

people sill use faxes, bruh!!

11:59 AM

I still have a fax machine...

Anonymous

12:15 PM

I dont think the fax is a bad bit of kit you know.

1:13 PM

Oh my god, another spoon question: worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/121447/…

wordbuilding become spoon.SE

another question ask if pig mounted cavalry is possible

Anonymous

This might be a stupid or incorrect question.

Anonymous

Does anyone know how I would do .* negate one object in Regex?

Anonymous

For example, if I have 24 interfaces that need configuration but the last interface needs separate config how would I go about doing that in Regex?

1:29 PM

couldn't you do it in two steps? config all interface, and catch the last one to reconfigure it?

Anonymous

Umm.

Anonymous

Possibly.

Anonymous

I just don't know enough about Regex, lol.

stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/regex

Anonymous

Thank you Tom.

Anonymous

1:36 PM

I think I might need to post.

I'm pretty sure your question is already answered there

considering 190000+ questions

Anonymous

Yes true.

Anonymous

But I don't even know what it'd be called.

Anonymous

Select all and remove one.

Anonymous

?

Q: Python regex matching all but last occurrence

1:42 PM

10

So I have expression such as "./folder/thisisa.test/file.cxx.h" How do I substitute/remove all the "." but the last dot?

don't know if it can help

or use a lookahead

regular-expressions.info/lookaround.html

Anonymous

2:00 PM

Hmm, thanks. I need to do some reading me thinks.

Benoit Esnard

2:15 PM

blog.esciencecenter.nl/…

Anonymous

2:31 PM

Do yourselves a favour if you ever have to experience this tool.

Anonymous

RUN LIKE FUCK from Cisco Prime.

Anonymous

Even if someone sounds like they're about to say it Prime with like "Pri" just run.

@BenoitEsnard "For this purpose, the Netherlands Institute for Radio Astronomy, ASTRON, designed the Uniboard², a board with four FPGAs which can handle more data per second than the Amsterdam internet exchange." - wut?

Benoit Esnard

2:47 PM

I'm not sure to understand neither, don't worry

well, I think I understand the sentence, but I don't think that that is the case

or if it is the case than Amsterdam has pretty poor internet?! O.o

Benoit Esnard

> The total data rate the board can process is tremendous and exceeds the 3 Tbps, might all connections be used fully. In comparsion the total data rate of the Amsterdam Internet Exchange is 2 Tbps which could all be processed by one UniBoard².

astron.nl/r-d-laboratory/uniboard/uniboard-i-and-ii

huh, okay

Anonymous

4:02 PM

Well, I fixed my issue with Cisco prime that was making me super mad.

Anonymous

Interestingly when Prime tries to inventory a device, if the devices hostname is too long it is finished with an ellipses, when RegEx sees that ellipses it stops the inventorying and then it will never finish and the device won't work.

Anonymous

So to fix it, you need to shorten the hostname of the device to where it doesn't have the ellipses and that fixes it.

Anonymous

Funnily enough it's only on one type of switch it happens.

JBis

6:10 PM

Hi.

Anyone here?

Question: How can a company/website encrypt user data so that they can only access it by logging in (with username and password) without making them enter a different key every time they want to encrypt or decrypt?

1. If they use the user's user password to encrypt then they are storing the password → Not Secure

2. If they use the hash of the users password then they are storing the hash which is the key → Not Secure

3. If they have a separate key that the user doesn't have to enter each time then they are storing the key → Not secure

4. Either they somehow rely on the password of the user then how is the user able to reset their password without losing all the data.

9:02 PM

@TomK. It seems like this is comparing apples and oranges. There's a big difference between the bandwidth of an NIC with associated cabling and the bandwidth of an FPGA. A $200 USD CPU has more "bandwidth" than even a million dollar core router if you are measuring L1 access speed.

Four 16 core FPGAs that can pass data between two 64-bit registers in one cycle would exceed 2 Tbps "bandwidth" easily at only 700 MHz (for example).

After all, it's naturally easier to transfer data at absurd speeds if you only need to move the data over a few micrometers of distance instead of a few hundred miles!