The DMZ

AviD

00:00

yiisssss my games are still modern pcgamer.com/diablo-2-patched-for-the-first-time-in-five-years

Journeyman Geek

@AviD my brother still plays the shit out of that

Mark Buffalo

@JourneymanGeek :[

Journeyman Geek

I've been trying to talk him into picking up torchlight

oh, and POE

I am sadly neglecting POE

Jason C

@MarkBuffalo So about those tin foil pants. They totally exist.

Journeyman Geek

but annoyingly since the company that makes it has some deal with a local company I can't get the steam version of path of exile so I can't get that multiplayer with my usual gaming group

Mark Buffalo

00:05

@JasonC Anti-radiation clothes are popular in China d:

They make you more likely to be affected by radiation, though

Jason C

Why? Because you're less likely to be careful?

Mark Buffalo

bloombergview.com/articles/2011-12-30/…

No, they literally trap harmful radiation inside of the clothing

Because it can't get out

There's the mistaken belief that computer radiation will harm the baby as well, even though it's non-ionizing radiation.

Jason C

Yeah I'm reading that. Interesting.

Somehow not surprising.

Mark Buffalo

Those pants are a little too extreme for my tastes

Either removable battery, or faraday pouch

d-;

Jason C

"Those who surrender [nice looking pants] for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."

Mark Buffalo

00:09

lol

Lucas Kauffman

00:20

@ThomasPornin many many thanks, it really cracked up my morning as well :p

Mark Buffalo

@LucasKauffman Sounds fun! What is it? :p

Mark Buffalo

00:40

sweet. another Chinese expat website "harmonized" by the CPC

Lucas Kauffman

@MarkBuffalo homework, Thomas will remove my spine for using decryption in the context of signatures

Mark Buffalo

@LucasKauffman I've already been killed by @ThomasPornin for talking about hashing being encryption. I am now speaking from beyond the grave

silverpenguin

00:58

just rejected an edit for someone who appeared to be advertising EC2 instances lol wtf

#productPlacment

etherealflux

01:13

Back-alley EC2 instances

'ey kid, want some cloud?

3

Journeyman Geek

01:30

s/cloud/butt

Jeff Ferland

@JourneymanGeek smog?

Journeyman Geek

not at the moment ;p

more of a mist

Mark Buffalo

02:17

Tomorrow is the crypto class. I hope I don't suck

reuters.com/article/us-apple-encryption-obama-idUSKCN0WD2KV

> U.S. President Barack Obama on Friday made a passionate case for mobile devices to be built in a way that would allow the government to gain access to personal data if needed to prevent a terrorist attack or enforce tax laws.

etherealflux

"If technologically it is possible to make an impenetrable device or system where the encryption is so strong that there is no key, there's no door at all, then how do we apprehend the child pornographer, how do we solve or disrupt a terrorist plot?"

ayy lmao

Mark Buffalo

I'm a bit conflicted here... on one hand, he has a point. On the other hand, it will lead to far more criminal activities and repressive regimes controlling people far more easily.

In this case, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't.

etherealflux

I'm reasonably sure that any backdoors would be found by criminals within days

Mark Buffalo

Pretty much

I'm reasonably sure as well

Journeyman Geek

02:38

@etherealflux funny thing. Someone basically released the application forms for a good chunk of ISIS/Daesh members

Cause he was pissed off.

Mark Buffalo

@JourneymanGeek lol

Mark Buffalo

02:56

@silverpenguin didn't look like he was advertising that

David Freitag

03:54

@RoryAlsop mmm yeah that's nice

@RоryMcCune Do you mean a 900 series card, or which 980 to get?

@RoryAlsop Oh man that solo

@RоryMcCune EVGA is my go-to GPU manufacturer. Others I know choose XFX because they give lifetime warranties for all of their cards. PNY/EVGA are the best imo

Obviously if you have the money, go with the 980 Ti SC+

amazon.com/EVGA-Installed-Backplate-Graphics-06G-P4-4995-KR/dp/…

Journeyman Geek

980TI <3

I have the zotac AMP!

David Freitag

@RоryMcCune I bought a 950 SSC, it's fantastic and I got it on sale for $150

Journeyman Geek

(admittedly cause it was the cheapest non reference one I could find)

David Freitag

(Yes SSC stands for Super Super Clocked)

@JourneymanGeek I had a fully passive Zotac 9500GT

Journeyman Geek

ow

David Freitag

04:03

Had a crazy heatsync that wrapped around the whole card

Journeyman Geek

IIRC the 9000 series used the same slightly defective chips as the 8000 series

I tended to go with asus

David Freitag

It was my first GPU, I got it at a landfill

@RоryMcCune Also them, Asus are another great GPU manufacturer

Journeyman Geek

they do nice heatsinks ;p

very solid, not very loud

(and my original build was almost entirely asus for some wierd reason)

David Freitag

The GPU's I have had: 9500GT, 6870, 950GTX SSC

Journeyman Geek

GF3ti200 (i think) gf4, 8800, 450 (passive cooled), 660, 980TI

David Freitag

04:06

ow you bought a 980TI? Which one?

Journeyman Geek

oh, and I KINDA had a matrox millenium II with my first ever build, but that's a 2d card, and a 8300 that came with my dumpster dived pc

but I had that for about a week before I ripped it out and went with integrated graphics

StackExchange

After a power outage at the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, the new Digital Doomsday Clock is flashing 00:00 and mushroom clouds keep appearing and then retracting once a second.

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag Need

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo Nah bro, Titan Z

amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Fastest-Graphics-12G-P4-3990-KR/dp/…

takes up 3 slots

Mark Buffalo

can't afford...

oh wait, I can

can't justify...

David Freitag

04:11

Nobody can afford one that's the point

amazon.com/dp/B010XOKHRI?psc=1

I don't know what it is but damn it's pricey

Mark Buffalo

> Dual Intel Xeon 12-core (24-cores total) 2.6 GHz (Upgradeable to 36-cores)
> 4x16 DDR4 ECC REG (64GB Total) 2133MHz (upgradeable to 1TB)
> 1 TB SSD and 4 TB 7200 RPM SSHD / Total Hard Drive Slots: 3.5" HDD or 2.5" HDD x 9+2.5" HDD x2 or 3.5" HDD x1
> RADEON 8GB R9 390 PCIe 3.0 (2 x DVI-D 1 x HDMI 1 x DisplayPort)
> Genuine Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, Mouse, Wireless keyboard, external card reader

tldr: rip-off

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo Well yeah, it's a pre-built system, they're all rip-offs

Journeyman Geek

@DavidFreitag I'd compare it with a dell precision workstation

which has more or less the same options

tho

David Freitag

@JourneymanGeek There's a dual CPU dell workstation?

Journeyman Geek

Sure

David Freitag

04:17

Really?

Journeyman Geek

erf. Let me look it up. old workplaces uses them almost exclusively

David Freitag

I bet they're hideously expensive

Journeyman Geek

ugh

I am getting thrown the indian web pages

David Freitag

Adblock ftw

Journeyman Geek

pretty sure its cheaper than that

naw, its geoip stuff

David Freitag

04:19

So stop using an Indian VPN

Journeyman Geek

go look up the dell precision 7910 and 7810

naw, I'm currently in india

I think we were using the 7810s

David Freitag

They only appear to have a single hex core

Journeyman Geek

erf

pretty sure we had 2x 10 core machines

remind me in 2 days if you still care ;p

David Freitag

pretty sure you're on drugs

oh wait

dell.com/us/business/p/precision-t7810-workstation/…

Yeah wow that's not bad at all

Well actually @RоryMcCune if you have the money, technically this is the top-est of the line 980 you can get:

amazon.com/dp/B016703RXS/…

Journeyman Geek

sure, couple of grand if you want to trick it out for gaming, but the ram's probably cheaper elsewhere especially if you go entirely non ECC

and that quadro is no slouch

David Freitag

04:28

I'm 99% sure @RоryMcCune isn't going to shell out $700-$800 USD on a GPU

@JourneymanGeek It is if you're gaming

Journeyman Geek

yup

but you might be able to dump the GPU, maybe dump the ram on ebay for bigger sticks, add a SSD and it would probably be overkill for almost anything you throw at it

Mark Buffalo

So I picked up a new skill... DevOps

Journeyman Geek

YOU POOR FOOL

Mark Buffalo

Why? :]

Journeyman Geek

(actually I read the phoenix project this vacation)

etherealflux

04:43

Did you install a toaster?

Journeyman Geek

I like the idea, but it feels like everyone's got it wrong

I do like how they map the theory of constraints to IT management

Mark Buffalo

@JourneymanGeek DevOps?

Journeyman Geek

but they don't mush their dev and ops guys into one

they work together as part of a process.

@MarkBuffalo yes

David Freitag

Is there a pill that cures awkwardness?

Journeyman Geek

I'm probably never going to be a great dev. Ops interests me, and I might be a decent one. That said, a lot of developers trying to do ops... convinces me they don't get ops at all

especially with the whole everything being in the cloud.

@DavidFreitag pill, no.

Take 2 shots and call her in the morning.

David Freitag

04:46

@JourneymanGeek I can't walk around 24/7 half cocked

I'd never get anywhere

Journeyman Geek

Sure you can.

David Freitag

Totally not feasible

Mark Buffalo

Well, if you can do DevOps, you'll be able to have greater control over the quality and end-result of your projects

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo What exactly is dev ops?

Journeyman Geek

@MarkBuffalo I tend to think complimentary skillsets vs people who do many things, badly.

Mark Buffalo

04:47

@JourneymanGeek But after a long time of doing the Operations part, it comes easy to me

I used to do a lot of ops work, and now I'm in software development

Journeyman Geek

@MarkBuffalo then its ok I suppose ;p

Mark Buffalo

I also do QA/code reviews, and make sure bad shit isn't getting to production

David Freitag

Ok, fine, nobody explain it to me I didn't want to know anyway

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag programming/operations

David Freitag

I can probably just google it anyway

Mark Buffalo

04:48

and QA

Journeyman Geek

@DavidFreitag "devops" is basically a new buzzword

Mark Buffalo

Think of it like this: you aren't just programming, you're setting up testing environments, ensuring quality, etc

Journeyman Geek

the idea is rather than having development and operations as seperate tasks, they need to communicate and work together

David Freitag

@JourneymanGeek I knew it was a buzzword because it makes my brain want to leak from my nose

Journeyman Geek

ideally, you end up automating the shit out of everything and treating operations as code

Mark Buffalo

04:49

you also monitor your applications to find weak spots and increase performance

David Freitag

What exactly is operations?

Journeyman Geek

hmm.

Mark Buffalo

you'll build, test, etc

Journeyman Geek

Traditionally? Hardware, software installs, maintainance, deployment.

Mark Buffalo

and you'll want to automate the deployment of these testing environments

@DavidFreitag tldr: you're already doing it

David Freitag

04:50

So DevOps is developing, building, testing, and maintaining? Right...

Mark Buffalo

@DavidFreitag that would be the software development portion

David Freitag

I still don't see how this is anything different from a developer's actual work

Yup still confused.

Mark Buffalo

DevOps

DevOps (a clipped compound of "development" and "operations") is a culture, movement or practice that emphasizes the collaboration and communication of both software developers and other information-technology (IT) professionals while automating the process of software delivery and infrastructure changes. It aims at establishing a culture and environment where building, testing, and releasing software, can happen rapidly, frequently, and more reliably. == Overview == In traditional, functionally separated organizations there is rarely cross-departmental integration of these functions wit...

> One goal of DevOps is to establish an environment where releasing more reliable applications faster and more frequently can occur. Release managers are beginning to utilize tools such as application release automation and continuous integration tools to help advance this goal, doing so through the Continuous Delivery approach.

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo "a clipped compound" it's a portmanteau you numpty

Journeyman Geek

@MarkBuffalo heh, I'm toying with getting some form of configuration management with my next personal hosting refresh.

Mark Buffalo

04:52

@DavidFreitag don't blame me, I didn't write the article :p

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo So DevOps is less about developing products and more about developing tools to help developing products?

@MarkBuffalo I wasn't talking about you

Journeyman Geek

@DavidFreitag yeah, it got managemented out.

David Freitag

@JourneymanGeek wut

Journeyman Geek

@DavidFreitag the article.

its full of big words meaning nothing ;p

David Freitag

... what article...?

Journeyman Geek

04:54

the wikipedia article?

David Freitag

I think my brain went on vacation

Mark Buffalo

It helps to develop rapid releases of large-scale enterprise software

sometimes you want multiple releases per day... or week, or month

some places are slower, some are faster

Mark Buffalo

05:56

i.imgur.com/lBnnnor.webm

what... what the flying f....

Potato-domo ends it all.

►

Wow.

David Freitag

@MarkBuffalo I thought you were going to bed.

Mark Buffalo

yeah, I couldn't sleep. got up to browse imgur, and came across a potato-seppuku

time to buy this movie

Journeyman Geek

o0

David Freitag

06:14

@MarkBuffalo Sigh. unzips

David Freitag

06:27

drools uncontrollably ibreatheimhungry.com/2015/09/…

I'm all for a diet that encourages bacon-encrusted maple donuts.

David Freitag

07:27

git.busybox.net/buildroot/commit/…

^ Love how buildroot defaults to MD5 for password encoding. THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS

OK, OK. That's at build time, not during run time.

HamZa

08:28

mornings

Rory Alsop

'ning

Rоry McCune

mor'

David Freitag

morning

Matthew

morning

David Freitag

that feel when you finally kill a dark souls boss that has killed you 63 times consecutively

Rоry McCune

08:43

@DavidFreitag well i need a 970 or better to use with the Vive, but I've got a power budget restriction in that my power supply is a 550 Watt and I don't fancy upgrading it 'cause the cables aren't modular and it would be a pain to re-route everything...

@DavidFreitag so from having a look yesterday it seems that a 980 (non-TI) is the best I can do without risking going over that

David Freitag

@RоryMcCune Ok I need full specs. Mobo, ram, cpu psu, etc

@RоryMcCune Or, if you like, you can punch in all the relevant details here: outervision.com/power-supply-calculator

You can also mock add GPU's to see what you can support

Rоry McCune

yeah from that it reckons I could scrape a 980-TI but 980 non-TI seems like a safer bet...

from what @kalina was saying yesterday most 980's are much of a muchness

David Freitag

What is the difference between the two?

Rоry McCune

in terms of power consumption

David Freitag

Yeah the 980 is a fantastic card, getting a TI versus non will just attribute to future-proofing

Rоry McCune

08:48

about 90 Watts

David Freitag

Honestly I would suggest getting a 980 TI and a decent 700W 80+ gold PSU

Henry WH Hack

Anyone here know Cryptography and Encryption?

David Freitag

But any of the 980s will be more than enough

Matthew

If you don't want to re-do existing cabling, you could also get a new motherboard, processor, case, drives and RAM, and just build a second computer

David Freitag

@Matthew hahaha

@RоryMcCune any target price in mind?

Matthew

08:52

I have actually ended up doing that before...

Colin Cassidy

Morning everyone

Rоry McCune

@Matthew lols yeah

@DavidFreitag yeah I know but already the vive ain't cheap and any card ain't going to be cheap...

David Freitag

@RоryMcCune Heh yeah computer parts definitely ain't cheap..

Rоry McCune

@DavidFreitag not breaking the bank after buying a vive, but powerful enough that I don't wish I'd bought a better card almost immediately

it's all this gaming/early adopter stuff

Matthew

@RоryMcCune You need to write some articles!

Rоry McCune

08:56

@Matthew I totally should do that

I think we need something on Docker :)

Matthew

Docker for security testers

David Freitag

amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Quieter-Graphics-04G-P4-2983-KR/dp/…

@RоryMcCune that's about middle of the road for the 980s

Rоry McCune

@DavidFreitag looks good, ta :)

David Freitag

@RоryMcCune The only potential issue I can see is to make sure your psu has an 8 pin gpu power connector

if you have an older psu (which I assume) it might only have 6 pin ones

Wait, no I lied. The 2983 has 6 pins

@RоryMcCune evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-2983-KR

Rоry McCune

@DavidFreitag ta I'll check that... I think it does but I'll have a look and see, PC ain't too old (Christmas 2014) so hopefully will be ok

David Freitag

09:01

@RоryMcCune Well not that it matters (I was looking at a different card, the one I linked uses 6 pin connectors), but the 8 pin connectors are fairly new, as of like last year I think.

@RоryMcCune if you enter that card into the psu calculator, what is the recommended supply?

M'vy

heya

@DavidFreitag isn't it 2x 8 pins?

David Freitag

@M'vy Yeah but it doesn't matter, the card I linked uses 6 pin ones

M'vy

oh

David Freitag

I was reading from the list on the EVGA site and I read the entry for the card above

Adi

@DavidFreitag Do you know stuff about assembling a desktop PC?

David Freitag

09:08

@Adi Yes, I have taken apart and assembled a few hundred PCs

Built two of my own

Spec'd out an absurd system for t'older @Rory

Adi

Cool. Soon I'll be building 2nd ever.

My first was 12 years ago

Rory Alsop

@DavidFreitag And it rocks!

Adi

so I know nothing about what's out there

Rory Alsop

infosecfrog.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/new-gaming-pc-build.html

Adi

Would it be okay if I ask you a few questions later on?

David Freitag

09:09

@Adi Well let me know if you would like some part recommendations

M'vy

Damn how many different 980 models do they have?

Rory Alsop

blog - with some of my gotchas as well, as I hadn't built one for a while and got caught out a wee bit

David Freitag

@M'vy 11

Then there are the 980 TI's

M'vy

geez

David Freitag

@Adi Sure, I always enjoy theory crafting computer builds

@M'vy You know what the saddest part is? They are all physically exactly the same

Rоry McCune

09:11

@DavidFreitag for the 980 (just seems general) they're recommending 435 with the rest of my kit, so should be cool :)

David Freitag

Well, some have a different coat of paint and slightly different fan setups, but the actual computing bits are exactly the same

Adi

@RoryAlsop I'll make sure to read that before I start

David Freitag

@RоryMcCune Yeah ~100W of headroom is ok

@Adi Keep in mind that a custom build PC isn't always that easy to set up. @RoryAlsop had some (quite odd) issues during his setup. I tried to help when I could but timezone differences made things interesting.

Rory Alsop

@DavidFreitag many of them did come down to David knowing how newer hardware was supposed to work, and me knowing ...older... kit, so our assumptions were not exactly the same.

So I was a bit of a PITA for David for those few days I think

David Freitag

Yeah there were a few moments where I sat there scratching my head

Rory Alsop

09:15

These sort of things may hit @Adi too

David Freitag

Well I think his lack of experience will lead to less false assumptions

Matthew

We were having fun in the office the other day with an M2 SSD. Apparently, they have different form factors within that...

Rory Alsop

@DavidFreitag probably true :-)

@Matthew The mere existence of M2 confused me enough...

David Freitag

@Matthew Yes there are I think four different sizes of M2

Rоry McCune

@Matthew yeah I almost got tripped up with that, there's longer ones and shorter ones and only some fit in certain laptops

Matthew

09:17

@DavidFreitag Yeah, and some of them share sizes, but have different cutouts

David Freitag

@Matthew Yup and some M2 drives are liars and only use SATA instead of PCIE + SATA

'dat 2560 MB/s doe

Matthew

We opened up a few different laptops finding one with the right slot, then spent ages going through live boot environments looking for one that supported it

Lack of CD drive is good for weight, but a bugger when it comes to live booting!

David Freitag

Yup. Everyone I know says CD drives are a thing of the past. I always say they're going to regret it, but what do I know... ;]

Especially when you can get a really nice ASUS drive for like $17

Matthew

@DavidFreitag Laptop compatible one?

David Freitag

@Matthew Nah standard PC one. Laptops I just get a USB 3.0 one

TildalWave

09:31

@DavidFreitag You're up? :O

isn't it like 5 am there?

in The Pod Bay, 42 mins ago, by TildalWave

ESA's ExoMars Trace Gas Orbiter + Schiaparelli lander launch live http://livestream.com/ESA/exomars

silverpenguin

@TildalWave still no sleeping

TildalWave

should launch now any second

silverpenguin

@TildalWave kaplow?

TildalWave

looks fine so far, I guess

silverpenguin

has it already launched?

TildalWave

09:37

yup, 116 km up now

Rory Alsop

that looked lovely. I liked the close up on the rockets at the moment of launch

silverpenguin

ah balls

missed it a few seconds

by a *

TildalWave

rewind ;)

Rory Alsop

you can watch the catch up - @Tildal's link has the launch video a bit further down the page

oh yeah - or rewind :-)

silverpenguin

but its not the same e_e

why can we not send someone to mar already

they need to man up and go

Matthew

09:39

@silverpenguin Wanna volunteer?

Rory Alsop

@silverpenguin it kinda is. Everything we ever see happens in the past - what's wrong with a couple more minutes in the past

@silverpenguin too many have. They are being selected to reduce numbers :-)

@Matthew lol

Matthew

Personally, I'd kind of like to get something to Mars and back without it breaking, before trying humans, but I'm a cautious type...

Rory Alsop

@Matthew yeah - seems like a good step. Unless folks want to just stay there, and colonise that freezing, oxygen-less planet

silverpenguin

@Matthew man il go, send me with enough canned beans and meat, a few chickens and a atmosphere tent / green house... and obviously enough water to survive for me and my chickens... then il go

TildalWave

yeah even for that we're not really ready technologically speaking

silverpenguin

09:42

maybe a some dogs.... for company

Matthew

@silverpenguin Have you read The Martian?

silverpenguin

@Matthew I have not actually, it any good?\

Matthew

@silverpenguin Yes, well worth a read. I've not seen the film, but I'm told it's quite good too

Rory Alsop

@silverpenguin better than the film

HamZa

don't you guys have work to do :p?

TildalWave

09:45

there's also that little problem of planetary protection and legality when it comes to such schemes as MarsOne, just because it's a private venture doesn't mean they can just neglect OST

Rory Alsop

@HamZa working right now :-)

silverpenguin

@HamZa im a developer.. Im paid the most amount of money for the least amount of work, same as every developer

TildalWave

yeah we're all working, what are you talking about? :O :D

Rory Alsop

are you not working @HamZa?

tut tut :-)

silverpenguin

@HamZa get a job you hippy

HamZa

09:46

@RoryAlsop I'm an intern hahaha

Rory Alsop

@HamZa doesn't that mean you have to work really hard?

Matthew

I'm working - I'm doing research into online chat rooms for hackers

HamZa

Need to finish my studies first :-)
In the mean time I still have that part time job

silverpenguin

@Matthew how is that going have those fools accepted you as one of their own yet... I cant wait to see their faces when they find out you are spy

HamZa

@RoryAlsop This company is super chill :D

Matthew

09:47

@silverpenguin I've met a few of them in person!

TildalWave

it's super chill on Mars too :)

HamZa

hahaha

silverpenguin

@Matthew D: really :o I forget what you do btw? and @TildalWave I honestly really wana go to mars e_e I can be their computer guy, I can do networking and shit

Matthew

@silverpenguin I work with @RоryMcCune and another few hundred security testers on testing all the things

HamZa

@silverpenguin no you don't

David Freitag

09:50

@TildalWave 6am, actually

@TildalWave How long would it take someone to freeze to death on mars?

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag first you'd die in about 10 seconds then you'd freeze in about a couple minutes on the surface, hours for all of you to freeze solid

silverpenguin

@Matthew I am applying to work there e_e

yes i know where u work

e_e

TildalWave

kinda also depends if it's day or night and other things

David Freitag

@TildalWave So assuming Mars had a breathable atmosphere in the right pressure, 10 minutes?

TildalWave

altitude, longitude,...

silverpenguin

09:54

licks @Matthew soon my love

David Freitag

@TildalWave ballpark

silverpenguin

I just need to send through my C.V but i have been busy and i obviously cant amend my C.V. while at work, thats just rude

HamZa

What the? What are the requirements to work in the sec sector?

silverpenguin

@HamZa same as any job be really good at **** **** (self censor)

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag ah that dunno, it would also change its temperature then ... assume about -65 C

for global equilibrium temperature at Martian mean distance to the Sun

Matthew

09:56

@silverpenguin Oh dear... sends a copy of this to HR :-P

David Freitag

@TildalWave Assume that the atmosphere doesn't affect the calculations

silverpenguin

@Matthew it will either help me or hinder me :P

HamZa

@silverpenguin euhm I'm not applying for an actor's position :P

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag that doesn't make any sense then :P

if you're standing up your head will freeze faster than your feet tho

David Freitag

@TildalWave Fine, assume I'm human but I can breath in Mars's current atmosphere

silverpenguin

09:57

@Matthew but i would be south allocated if they even considered me

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag I already answered that then LOL

silverpenguin

i should really do my c.v. tonight its been a week... but my C.V need so much work

David Freitag

@TildalWave So 10 minutes?

HamZa

@silverpenguin just send your stack careers cv haha

TildalWave

@DavidFreitag yeah about but you'll be long dead by then... 10 minutes is probably enough so you'd be as stiff as if rigor mortis set in

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