The DMZ

Terry Chia

13:17

I have a product recommendation question: Does there exist a browser plugin where you can say shift click a link to open it inside a VM / sandbox?

Ohnana

@TerryChia i'd say no

Simon

Would making it open in a VM even be possible?

Ohnana

click to open in a VM sounds like weird voodoo programming

Simon

Yeah.

Terry Chia

@Ohnana Not really... Running VM with a snapshot, send link over local network, open it in browser and connect via VNC. Rollback snapshot when session is over.

Ohnana

13:21

VMWare has integrated copy-paste

i feel like that would be easier

Terry Chia

@Ohnana The idea is that I want a more seamless experience... Might be something I'll try building one of these days...

kalina

oh I did something like this for major fun once, what I did was programatically ssh to a linux vm to open up a vpn connection and then tunnel rdp connections through that so that I didn't have to vpn on my main machine

Simon

nurd

kalina

i guess you could make it open a web browser instead

@Simon pls it was super useful

Simon

and super nurdy

kalina

13:27

pls it only really consisted of like 10 things

silverpenguin

it was the major fun that made it nurdy

kalina

start/stop/check vm state

start/stop vpn + tail of logs

I used a third party ssh library

so that was like .Tunnel() instead of lots of code

then mstsc component

Simon

nurd overflow

kalina

not even difficult

silverpenguin

hey @kalina know much about init.d scripts and init infos?

kalina

13:29

I don't know linux

only nerds know linux

silverpenguin

ur screwing with me right?

kalina

no

silverpenguin

ponders

kalina

windows 10 is the best operating system ever

who needs linux

silverpenguin

yea you are messing with me

kalina

13:30

no I'm not :(

Jon

Apparently you haven't heard of TempleOS

kalina

why are you in here

silverpenguin

@kalina but windows 10? i mean D: how you didnt like 8 right? i mean windows 10 is ok but you hated 8 ? RIGHT RIGHTTTT?

kalina

@silverpenguin Windows 8 was a fantastic operating system if you used it as it was intended to be used

Jon

as a tablet os

kalina

13:32

the start screen in Windows 8 when used on a touchscreen device was significantly better than the Windows 10 start screen

the Windows 10 one feels more like a compromise between people in suits where as in Windows 8 it felt like it had been designed

Jon

The issue with windows 8, is that they tried to shove tablet style interfaces onto desktop users

kalina

nobody is denying that

silverpenguin

^

kalina

but the perception that OMG IT'S CRAP WORST OS EVER

pls, it was faster and more stable than Windows 7

Jon

It showed a complete lack of understanding of their core desktop users

Ohnana

13:33

i nuked windows 8 form my laptop and my computer was instantly easier to use

silverpenguin

@kalina you think so? I thought windows 7 was pretty good... changing the whole arch for windows 8 put it back a few steps especially with trying to cross compat old programs

kalina

@silverpenguin nobody cares about old programs

the "old program" argument is hypocritical

silverpenguin

@kalina they do when no one has written new ones for windows 8 arch T_T

at time of creation obviously

kalina

if you're going to use the "old program compatibility" argument you're no longer allowed to compare the operating system with any other operating system that doesn't do old program compatibility, or indeed have old programs

which means you can't compare it with OS X or iOS or Android or any other modern OS

silverpenguin

@kalina i wasnt using the argument I was just getting your opinion

kalina

13:35

because all of them could give a damn about compatibility

Terry Chia

@kalina Cool!

kalina

you don't need my opinion you already formed your own

silverpenguin

@kalina does not mean yours is not valid

kalina

my opinion is perfectly valid, I just do not feel the need to discuss it at length

Rоry McCune

@kalina yeah Mobaxterm has a nice feature to do that automatically

so you can establish SSH tunnels on startup

silverpenguin

13:37

and my opinion can be changed if someone can never change their opinions then they think their opinion is fact :P and ok sorry il stop bugging you now

Rоry McCune

@kalina true 'dat

old app compatibility should DIAF, lots of insecure stuff that way lies

the number of networks you find with Java 1.4.x on them 'cause they need it to run some old app. is horrifying

Simon

u wanna fight about it roro

Rоry McCune

@Simon what're we fighting about this time?

you're not saying you like Java 1.4 are you?

Simon

Do we always need a reason to fight?

kalina

yes

silverpenguin

13:40

@RоryMcCune or outdated PHP version shudders

kalina

Simon is written in Java 1.4 so you basically insulted his species

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Rоry McCune

@Simon well usually it's your touching blindness to the weaknesses of the Android Ecosystem.

Simon

@RоryMcCune I don't know shit about Java versions.

All I need to know is that it's not installed on my Macbook.

kalina

well that's because you can't install anything useful on a macbook

Simon

Oh yeah? What can't I install on it?

silverpenguin

13:41

@Simon fruityloops

kalina

well, until you get parallels installed that is

Rоry McCune

@Simon Visual Studio

Simon

@silverpenguin Shitty GUI, no thanks.

silverpenguin

@Simon I was making a joke haha Im a mac

kalina

@silverpenguin ew wghat

Simon

13:41

@RоryMcCune I can install Visual Studio Code!

kalina

@silverpenguin you're a mac? I thought you were a manatee

silverpenguin

@kalina Im a manatee that uses a mac

Rоry McCune

@Simon yeah but it's not really the same (for now anyway, I have a feeling MS are working to change that)

kalina

a macatee?

silverpenguin

macafee

wait what

Simon

13:42

@RоryMcCune I hope so, VS is pretty neat.

kalina

OH MY GOSH

MACAFEE IS HERE

blame Simon

</blamed>

anyway I'm bored and I'm going now

bye

Rоry McCune

@kalina o/

silverpenguin

I develop on a MAC, work on Linux and play games on windows

Rоry McCune

@silverpenguin FTMI

AviD

@kalina OH MY GOSH, MY COFFEE IS HERE

silverpenguin

13:44

I was trying to cross it out as a joke xD

Jon

I wish I had more coffee..

hmm.. didn't work.

silverpenguin

@Jon you want some java

Jon

not particularly

Simon

Installed some updates on Windows Server 2012 and now after rebooting, "Windows Module Installer Worker" is taking 100% CPU.

THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS

WHY DOES THIS ALWAYS HAPPEN

Mark Buffalo

@Simon Microsoft is updating your backdoor to Fully Undetectable Status.

Rоry McCune

13:47

@Simon hey I've seen that recently, what is it...

Simon

I spy with my little eye a process about to get killed.

Ohnana

@Simon HNNNNNG WINDOWS

FULL THROTTLE WINDOOOOOWS

Simon

@Ohnana I KNOOOOOOOW

Rоry McCune

hey @kalina you're our resident windows expert, what's the Windows Module Installer Worker?

Simon

Oh wow, it ended by itself.

Good Windoze.

Rоry McCune

13:48

@Simon it noticed you watching it

Simon

OH NO IT'S BACK ON

Mark Buffalo

@RоryMcCune as the resident NSA tinfoil expert, I believe this is a backdoor being installed within 3 degrees of separation

Simon

And gone again.

What the heck.

kalina

@RоryMcCune clearly a worker process for the windows module installer

Rоry McCune

@kalina :op

Ohnana

13:48

...

Mark Buffalo

@Simon Sir, please remain calm while we invade your privacy.

Simon

Server Manager not responding #yolo

@MarkBuffalo It's a freaking dev machine that I'm using to develop, there's literally nothing to invade.

Ohnana

FCKING WINDOWS REBOOTING /poof

kalina

@RоryMcCune highly likely related to windows features or windows update

Simon

Oh no, now it's ".NET Runtime Optimization Service" going at it.

Mark Buffalo

13:50

@Simon So your code is 'nothing', and not worth being stolen? :((((((((

Rоry McCune

@kalina yeah some googling suggests your right..

Mark Buffalo

I keed

Simon

@MarkBuffalo It's internal tools but yeah, I guess there are some sekrets in there.

sekretz

Mark Buffalo

@kalina You're amazingly smart. Teach me your ways! <3

Simon

I'll let it do its things like a big boi.

2

BUT AM WATCHING YOU, WINDOZE.

Mark Buffalo

13:52

@Simon Starred for later out-of-context stories.

Simon

o

kalina

@MarkBuffalo your sarcasm wounds me

Rоry McCune

@kalina i thought sarcasm only made you stronger?

silverpenguin

@MarkBuffalo finish her while she is weak

Mark Buffalo

@kalina I added the "<3" because I felt like I would come across as an ahole. :()

even though I'm clearly joking around.

silverpenguin

13:53

---> ( ) )~~

Mark Buffalo

@silverpenguin I only finish my wi.. never mind.

kalina

@MarkBuffalo that's not what she said

Simon

@MarkBuffalo I highly doubt that, you can't even finish a sentence.

Rory Alsop

silverpenguin

(*)> the penguin is among us

Rory Alsop

13:55

I assume caching is to blame for this

kalina

@RoryAlsop caching

Rory Alsop

like I said :-)

Mark Buffalo

@Simon fkn wrekt

kalina

definitely doing that on purpose

Simon

pls it's "rekt"

Xander

13:55

@MarkBuffalo The intrinsic value of source code is highly overrated, generally speaking.

kalina

I keep toggling my avatar back and forth

Simon

What about your hair?

Rory Alsop

@kalina hahahaha - at first I was thinking - clever. managed to use two different avatars for two different sizes

kalina

@Simon my hair is already dead

Mark Buffalo

@kalina :(

kalina

13:56

I murdered it with hair coloring last year

Mark Buffalo

you murdered my self-esteem

kalina

@MarkBuffalo I believe her exact words were "doesn't even touch the sides"

Simon

rekt

kalina

a sass a day keeps the basics away

Simon

@kalina Markus claimed that he can't wear condoms because they don't fit.

kalina

13:57

@Simon too small?

I think they make super small ones but they're special order

silverpenguin

hot dog down a hallway

Simon

o

Ohnana

@Simon that is actually a thing in the united states

kalina

@Ohnana "a thing"?

Ohnana

the FDA won't allow sale of condoms outside of a certain size range

Mark Buffalo

13:59

haha

Simon

loooooooooooooool

Ohnana

it's pretty dumb

Mark Buffalo

@Ohnana This. So you're either stuck getting squeezed, or you have to go bareback

murica!

kalina

"squeezed"

silverpenguin

normallly 48-52mm

Ohnana

13:59

@MarkBuffalo yeah, or your condom keeps slipping off and it's useless

kalina

"hehe this condom looks like a hat"

Mark Buffalo

@kalina It can't if it can't get over the top

Simon

pls.

Mark Buffalo

alright

subject change nao

kalina

it's difficult to change the subject when you're making your penis the center of attention

silverpenguin

14:00

new subject: votes on a new staple canadian for the room. i feel like the current staple is out dated

Ohnana

yes, we are all obsessed with penises

6

kalina

@Ohnana well you are for sure

you love penis so much you wish you had one!

Mark Buffalo

ummm

that's going a little far

kalina

ok fine

what

that wasn't offensive

silverpenguin

distant cry from the background "lock her up"

Simon

14:03

Who wouldn't want some of the D?

silverpenguin

what who said that

kalina

@Simon well exactly, I love penis but not when it doesn't do what I tell it to

silverpenguin

@Simon doughnuts?

kalina

which is most of the time

silverpenguin

scarey pony

Ohnana

14:05

@kalina i took tier two of "penis envy" as a perk. ain't nothin wrong with that

Mark Buffalo

ah, ok... so not offended. I was offended for you for a minute there.

kalina

@MarkBuffalo causing trouble

Rоry McCune

I see we're happily as on topic as ever

kalina

you made me feel ridiculously bad for no reason

I hope you feel bad now

Mark Buffalo

@kalina now I feel ridiculously bad

kalina

14:06

good

you nearly made me feel so bad that I spontaneously cried

but I didn't

Ohnana

@MarkBuffalo protip: if you want to feel offended for me, don't :)

Mark Buffalo

@kalina :((((

@ThomasPornin I was about to link you to that thread, and less than a second later, your answer showed up.

Matthew

14:23

Apparently I don't vote on questions enough... The site popped up and told me so!

Thomas Pornin

@Matthew There is a gold badge to motivate votes on questions.

You need to vote on questions and answers that relate to at least 600 distinct questions, and 25% of your votes must be on questions.

Jon

@kalina you wanna try my new game?

Ohnana

@ThomasPornin i have that badge

Thomas Pornin

@Ohnana 48 people have that badge. It is the easiest gold badge to achieve (you just have to click 40 times per day, on 15 days).

Ohnana

@ThomasPornin well jeeze

i actually tried to upvote/downvote wisely

Thomas Pornin

14:32

@Ohnana I tend to upvotes the questions that I answer, on the basis that a question that elicited a response from me cannot be bad.

Ohnana

i see.

Mark Buffalo

@ThomasPornin I do the same... but will often upvote anything that caused me to read through the question in it's entirety, and wasn't gibberish

Xander

@ThomasPornin You need 600 votes on questions. Votes on 150 questions and 450 answers, all answers to different questions, won't do it. You need 600 votes on questions, and less than 1,800 votes on answers.

Mark Buffalo

@Xander I'm at 408/600

:(

Xander

@MarkBuffalo You'll get there soon. It's easier than it used to be, because we have far more traffic than we used to have.

Rory Alsop

14:36

@MarkBuffalo through extensive testing, I can state that they can fit over any part of a human's body, so I think you are worrying needlessly

Mark Buffalo

@RoryAlsop Fit over any part != comfortable

You can get squeezed to the point where you cannot maintain... a... salute?

and you can hear the oozing

or feel it. it's so uncomfortable

Rory Alsop

@MarkBuffalo ahhhhhh. True. When I have put one on my head it does squeeze a little

Mark Buffalo

I cannot get it over my other head without force

hence, I do not wear them. at all...

Ohnana

plus, if you're stretching it like that, you increase the chances of breakage due to friction

Mark Buffalo

might be one of the reasons why I am not a slut lol

dnaindia.com/world/…

BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

Rory Alsop

14:40

@HerringboneCat this may be of interest, based on previous conversation:

1

Q: Laptop for music production

I want to work with music production - in particular with Sibelius software. I same time I need new laptop and I am wondering - does laptop build-in sound card/chip makes any difference in quality of music production (not only in Sibelius software, but in other DAW software too)? I know, that fo...

@MarkBuffalo I assume that is a spoof site like the Onion, right?

Mark Buffalo

nope

I even read a right-wing article in America, I think on WorldNetDaily, that Soy is making our kids gay because it contains estrogen

And one of the news photos had a gay pride parade picture on it.

like the guy was going "YEAH! SOY!"

SOY UN PUTO GENIO

Ohnana

@MarkBuffalo phytoestrogen.

it's pretty much useless to your body, and in some cases it can interfere with uptake of actual estrogen produced by your body

Mark Buffalo

@Ohnana So it's true, then? DID YOU EAT A LOT OF SOY AS A KID?

Ohnana

no.

Mark Buffalo

Ohnana

14:45

there are tons of people who are like "rgghh i can't get hormones, i'll just eat soy" and it's hilariously sad

Mark Buffalo

@Ohnana lol

Thomas Pornin

@MarkBuffalo Oooh, dead animals !

Ohnana

yeah that's a nice cut of meat

Mark Buffalo

kobe beef

Ohnana

10/10 would pan-sear

:OOO

Thomas Pornin

14:46

Kobe cows get beer to drink, and massages with sake.

It makes it worth to wish to be reincarnated as a Kobe cow (regardless of the last 2 minutes of life, which suck).

silverpenguin

@MarkBuffalo kobe beef is awesome

Ohnana

can i reincarnate as a human?

i feel like that would be the most fun

Thomas Pornin

@Ohnana According to Buddhists, at least seven billions of people have managed to do so, therefore we must consider that it is possible.

Mark Buffalo

If reincarnation were true, I would hope to be reincarnated as someone who can spend time with my grandkids and beyond...

silverpenguin

I want my next life to be in a post apocolyptic world filled with guns and zombies

please

Mark Buffalo

14:50

My son looks a lot like my grandfather, and my daughter looks like my grandmother. Makes me miss them a lot less...

heh

silverpenguin

this world is to boring

needs more zombies and guns

Arperum

@silverpenguin This world is perfectly not boring. You just look in the worng places.

Thomas Pornin

@silverpenguin That's easy; you can have it for this life too: vote Trump !

Ohnana

fetal position

silverpenguin

@Arperum I have exciting times in life, just not every day e_e

Ohnana

14:53

if he gets the nomination i will be sad 5eva

Thomas Pornin

@Ohnana If he does not get nominated then that will be Cruz. Is that better ?

Ohnana

@ThomasPornin marginally

Thomas Pornin

In any case, the Republican party is entering "interesting times". This will be fun to observe.

Ohnana

ideally, you want a weaker republican candidate to come out of the convention, because the cult of personality will destroy the democrats

Thomas Pornin

First, the Brexit referendum, then US elections. Entertainment for the whole year.

Rоry McCune

14:55

Now all we need is an indictment for Hillary and next stop , president trump

Ohnana

so cruz getting the nomination means that (Sanders|Clinton) has a better shot of the presidency

@RоryMcCune actually, sanders polls better against trump than hillary

silverpenguin

soon we will be free of the EU

mwahaha

Rоry McCune

@Ohnana sure but he's not on course to win the democratic nomination

Mark Buffalo

@ThomasPornin lol

Rоry McCune

absent a large upset he's not going to

Ohnana

14:56

@RоryMcCune if hillary gets indicted, he'll win the nomination with no contest

Mark Buffalo

@ThomasPornin No? He's a total spook.

Bernie will be the next president

Rоry McCune

@Ohnana care to wager the republicans will wait till after she's the candidate to get the indictment?

Ohnana

@RоryMcCune oooh that's nasty

the FBI is handling the case, so hopefully they aren't under republican control

it's not like impeachment where it's put to a vote

clinton is a private citizen for the moment

silverpenguin

@RоryMcCune indictment? why? what?

did i miss something

Rоry McCune

@Ohnana "tell me Mr FBI Investigator, have you ever thought of higher office, perhaps something well remunerated"

Ohnana

14:58

clinton allegedly improperly handled classified information

which is a very very bad thing

silverpenguin

ah i see

Simon

You're a very very bad thing.

I'M KIDDING OHNUHNUH ILY

Mark Buffalo

@Ohnana She did. I have access to all her emails

silverpenguin

puts NSA work on the fridge

Mark Buffalo

hang on, I will give you the link so you can read them yourself

Simon

14:59

nct

Ohnana

@Simon ;-;

Simon

@Ohnana Is that a tiny creature with its arms up?

Mark Buffalo

nsa.gov/~xkeyscore/archives/politicians/usa/clintonh/…

Ohnana

@Simon ;_;

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