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15:01
@M'vy what constitutes a sniffing attack?
@RoraΖ It's a social engineering attack where you're usually waiting in a line and drop the biggest bomb to attempt to make people in front of you leave.
@RoraΖ I guess what he meant is sniffing the network for packets
@RoryAlsop You are a horrible person. I can't stop reading.
@RoraΖ it's where you walk up to somebody and start sniffing them
15:17
who dat cat
@Simon it's Microsoft's Ninja Cat
@RоryMcCune Microsoft is definitely not allowed to have a ninja cat.
Nor any kind of cat, actually.
@Simon what about unicorns, or a Tyrannosaurus rex with grabbers?
They can have unicorns, they're just another type of horse.
15:19
@kalina thus the grabbers
yes but Microsoft would never think of the grabbers
they'd be too preoccupied with the T Rex to notice there being any problems
"But look how mean it is..."
I bet they only employ 1 dude to do the bug fix in every single product.
pls, what do you think previews are for
in b4 complaining because I didn't say "person" instead of "dude".
no I've accepted that you're a misogynist
15:22
pls
I've always had a lot of respect for bitches.
I might flag that just to see what happens
ok
@Simon That doesn't say anything about women, just about dogs.
pls, I don't care about dogs.
15:35
I just got pinged three times in the bridge -.-
it felt like they were trying to invoke my presence for fire purposes
da bridge
@Iszi huh, Surface Laptop, that was unexpected
so they managed to keep some hardware quiet
turned out they'd mistaken me for @Arperum's cat
Can we organize a da bridge raid?
pls no
we might catch something
15:37
Very true.
You gotta be ready to sacrifice everything when you're at war though.
this isn't war
so let's say the bridge is canada
@kalina No but there are a few Americans in here and we all know that the USA loves to take part of wars that don't involve them.
because it's quaint and everybody likes to point and laugh at it
this would be like "the entire population of earth" vs "canada"
primarily because your mom is joining the party
I hope that your productions are more original than your jokes.
so insulting
I would never insult you
ur so mean
15:41
fkin rekt
no, just to go further than stabbing somebody in the face you've got to get really disgusting and start cutting them up before disposing them downstream
and I'm not ready to cross that line
@kalina that's nice to hear
well the line is all the way back there and it's a long way to walk back
also, nobody will find this body
finishes bagging body parts
only most of a month to go until I can buy Surface Pro 4s
@kalina not tempted by the laptop?
why would I want a laptop, I have a desktop
15:50
@kalina why would you want a surface, you have a desktop
also they're called notebooks now
because laptops burn yourself
same answer "they're mobile"
pls a surface is a tablet
you can draw on the screen with your nose
@kalina with "Lapability"
can you do that with a desktop?
15:50
@kalina I believe the laptop has a touch screen too
well that's just silly, why would you want a laptop with a touchscreen when you could have a tablet with an attachable keyboard
also the laptop has a detachable screen
so is also a tablet
@RоryMcCune Oh look, a Macbook running Windows!
@Simon everyone copies everyone else. Apple brought out a Surface clone with their "iPad pro"
"... make it twice as fast as the MacBook Pro. That's a bold claim, and while Microsoft didn't exactly back it up with stats, watching Panay play Gears of War from the Surface Book on stage and then immediately edit footage from the game in Adobe Premiere on stage poses a pretty strong argument"
That's quite badass.
@RоryMcCune That's true.
15:55
yeah if true it sounds like a pretty nice bit of kit
@RоryMcCune wrong form factor to be useful
@kalina I'm sure some people will like the larger screen/more powerful design
I really don't get the hype of detachable screens.
I hate tablets.
if I want larger screens... 5760x1080
if I want more powerful... again it's the desktop system
If you want a donut, do you get a Desktop PC?
15:57
@kalina what if you're on the move (e.g. travelling with work) and you want the power to do gaming/editing?
@RоryMcCune between working and sleeping, that leaves me like 0.7 hours to chat with you guys and that's it.
also if I really needed to edit, that could be achieved with a surface pro
@kalina This does not answer the question. To critique or request....
@kalina Good addition, I removed my flag.
16:28
@RоryMcCune Yeah, I had to go away for a meeting. Just caught up on the live blog. Loving it!
And of course they named it "Surface Book" - shameless comparison.
@Iszi yeah some very nice kit, nothing I'm particularly in the market for at the moment, but nice all the same
I told my wife I'd want a Surface when the next generation came out. Seriously considering the Book over the SP4.
@Iszi yeah I might be a little worried it would be heavy as a tablet device
but it does look very nice for the tablet/laptop niche
@Iszi looks like the HoloLens is US only for established devs, so my bank balance is safe for now
@RоryMcCune Yeah, what I was looking to get was a highly portable but not underpowered laptop. Tablet convertability was mainly just an extra. I've got a laptop now that fits in the "mobile workstation" class. 17-inch screen. Hardly ever leaves the desk unless I'm really traveling. I really like a laptop that size for general use, but I need a smaller device for "house call"/"grab-and-go" type situations.
SP3 was looking good for that, so I figured logically the SP4 would be great when it came out. The Book seems more like just the perfect fit though.
@Iszi yeah I've got an HP Elitebook 840 G1 and it's nice from that perspective. Powerful enough to do real work, light enough that I don't mind carrying it. Compared with my work laptop which is more powerful but weighs a ton, I know which one goes with me when I have the choice
@Iszi yeah SP 4 and book both look v.nice. For tablet/light work duties the missus prefers her non-pro Surface 3 over SP3 as it lacks fans
16:34
I love the way that video mimics the flow of the keynote. "Hey, here's this laptop with all these great specs.. oh, and by the way, it's a hybrid!"
Funny though... didn't we used to call those things netbooks? Guess that stopped when they stopped making them underpowered.
@Iszi yeah the netbook thing was criminal the way intel killed that off
I remember when they first came out, such a breath of fresh air in a moribund market
and then intel hobbled them, and the whole segment died off a bit
@RоryMcCune Not sure I ever called a netbook that.
Honestly, the Surface Pro 3 (my wife's, and the one I use at work) is just now starting to get me used to and comfortable with such a small screen.
@Iszi well at that time all the other laptops were so clunky or hideously expensive
I got a little Asus original netbook and getting a portable computer for £250 was nice
@RоryMcCune I had a hard time calling them "computers" too. Just so weak.
terrible by todays standard obviously, but ran the linux distro they shipped with ok
16:38
@RоryMcCune That's just it. So weak they had to put Linux on them to make them useful.
Or that crippled special edition of Windows.
that was before MS/Intel had the threat of Apple/Google to keep them honest
Wish they'd post the pricing for the different models, instead of just "starting at...". Guess we'll have to wait 'till preorders go up tomorrow.
Kinda mind-blowing that a little thing like the SP4, with just a small dock, can drive a total of 3 displays.
@Simon wha...?
@kalina I flagged what you replied as "Not an answer".
oh right, just more Simon silliness
16:50
@Iszi my Missus has an SP3 with the dock and is running the main panel + 2 displayport 1080p monitors quite happily
@RоryMcCune If she upgrades, you call tell her that I'll gladly take it.
@RоryMcCune Still wow.
@Simon SP4 probably isn't enough of an upgrade to warrant it (although I wouldn't be too surprised to see that change in time...)
@RоryMcCune I'm not a fan of that hinge at all
@RоryMcCune Hehe.
16:52
@kalina Definitely a bit funny-looking. The Verge guy called it a "snake hinge".
I struggle to take anybody who calls front facing speakers "immersive audio" seriously
@kalina Anything short of studio headphones or 7.1 surround sound just doesn't qualify, eh?
pls, bass feels as minimum
@Iszi hard to be "immersed" by something coming from one direction
what he said ^
16:58
@RoraΖ These guys?
oh god
@Iszi I hate you
I didn't know they had any female vocals
the new pens are not rechargeable?
@kalina I believe not, although apparently you should only need to change the battery once a year
@RоryMcCune Is that like when they say that you should do X MPG and never even come close to it?
17:02
Apple have a conference
@Simon could be, could be My guess is that it would vary hugely depending on use
They discuss their products with words like "Magic" and "Incredible"
Microsoft have a conference
They call their products "the product"
@RоryMcCune That's for sure.
listn tis all about the product yea
THE PRODUCT?
@kalina Basically, they name their products after my ween.
17:03
are we shipping coke?
@Simon citation needed
ooh @kalina managed to leave @Simon speechless... that's a first :D
pls I leave Simon speechless all the time
wat
sometimes even my presence causes him to gasp as he catches his breath
17:08
pls
you can lie in public if you want
Can I lie in private too?
well no, that would be a violation of the agreement
This Week on 'Days of our DMZ' ...
@RоryMcCune "You've sworn that you wouldn't betray me again and yet you do it on the first opportunity"
"throws the wedding ring away"
17:12
@RоryMcCune I still have mine. The 7" 800x480 screen is quite cramped. And the on-board SSD is terribly slow (like a cheap USB card).
If TeamViewer ever kills Aero on Windows 7, this is the solution: ccm.net/faq/…
Quick and easy.
@Simon you were married to @kalina ... wow this gets more weird as the day goes on!
@RоryMcCune This is a hypothetical situation, as described by the quotation marks.
@ThomasPornin I sold one of my EEEPc's and gave the other away, but yeah they were a little on the cramped side!
@Simon sure sure ... it's "hypothetical" totally
pls
pe lease
17:15
puleaze
puuuuuuuuuuuleeeeeeeeeeeaze
pepe the pew
oh you two crazy kids, I don't know
well no you wouldn't would you, what with there being literally 10 generations between you and us
senility prevents you from remembering being young when you're forty million years old
@kalina 10 generations of like mice or something, hey I'm not @RoryAlsop you know
watching a news reporter own a guy from Google over how pointless the new chromecasts are
17:17
@kalina wrong rory
pls, if you're >25 you're a fogey
@kalina aaand you just consigned most of the DMZ habitues to being fogeys
I know
no difference from us being classed as the kids of the room
@kalina given that you're barely under 25
you probably need to be careful with your classification
@kalina I like to be classed as a kid, it makes me believe that I'm not an old fart for a minute.
17:21
Elon Musk is not a very good public speaker
Jean Anstett on October 6, 2015
This summer, Stack Overflow together with a host of NYC-based tech companies, created Beyond Coding, a 10 week program for emerging developers and designers. We sought to guide students through the finer points of professional 'soft' skills in order to help lose lacking experience gain a foothold in the technical job market.
heh
Tesla Model X has a "Bioweapon defence mode"
@kalina Does that mean that there's something bad coming up?
probably
17:38
Also, for git users on Winders:
165
Q: Git/Bash is extremely slow in Windows 7 x64

Gemini14I've been using Git on both Windows and Ubuntu during the development of a small project, frequently flipping back and forth between the two. The issue I'm having is that Git/Bash consistently become slow. When I say slow, I mean that running cd takes anywhere from 8-25 seconds, running git com...

17:55
@kalina apparently it's the best filter in any consumer vehicle
18:09
$ cat ecc.c.uue
begin 644 ecc.c
M+RH@"B`@5&AI<R!P<F]G<F%M(&EM<&QE;65N=',@=&AE($5#2453('!U8FQI
M8R!K97D@96YC<GEP=&EO;B!S8VAE;64@8F%S960@;VX@=&AE"B`@3DE35"!"
M,38S(&5L;&EP=&EC(&-U<G9E(&%N9"!T:&4@6%1%02!B;&]C:R!C:7!H97(N
M(%1H92!C;V1E('=A<R!W<FET=&5N"B`@87,@86X@86-C;VUP86YI;65N="!F
M;W(@86X@87)T:6-L92!P=6)L:7-H960@:6X@<&AR86-K(",V,R!A;F0@:7,@
M<F5L96%S960@=&\*("!T:&4@<'5B;&EC(&1O;6%I;BX**B\*"B-I;F-L=61E
M(#QS=&1I;G0N:#X*(VEN8VQU9&4@/'-T9&QI8BYH/@HC:6YC;'5D92`\<W1R
M:6YG+F@^"B-I;F-L=61E(#QF8VYT;"YH/@HC:6YC;'5D92`\=6YI<W1D+F@^
pls
Any Idea how to get "normal" c Code from that ? :-(
@SebastianNagel well .uue is usually UUEncoded, so just UUDecode it would be a first thing to try
thanks for the hint
/*
This program implements the ECIES public key encryption scheme based on the
NIST B163 elliptic curve and the XTEA block cipher. The code was written
as an accompaniment for an article published in phrack #63 and is released to
the public domain.
*/

#include <stdint.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <string.h>
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <unistd.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <netinet/in.h>

#define MACRO(A) do { A; } while(0)
#define MIN(a, b) ((a) < (b) ? (a) : (b))
#define CHARS2INT(ptr) ntohl(*(uint32_t*)(ptr))
is what that first bit turns out like
ahh you young people not remembering the delights of no binary transmission on e-mails/newsgroups
we had to UUencode everything
and then split it up into tiny chunks so that Usenet would take it
18:12
Yeah I grew up in the future
Ahh the code snippet makes tottaly sense :-)
just copied the first lines
never heard of UUencode / decode
it's old people tech
@SebastianNagel That's because you haven't reached the maximum level of nurdness.
Uuencoding is a form of binary-to-text encoding that originated in the Unix program uuencode, for encoding binary data for transmission over the UUCP mail system. The name "uuencoding" is derived from "Unix-to-Unix encoding". Since UUCP converted characters between various computers' character sets, uuencode was used to convert data that should not be translated between character sets. By encoding such data into a character subset common to most character sets, the encoded form of such data files was unlikely to be "translated", thereby destroying the file. The program uudecode reverses the effect...
@Simon progressing pretty well thought ;-)
18:14
Indeed you are.
@RоryMcCune how did you decode it btw ? just uudecode (filename) ?
+ copying the text above into "filename"
@SebastianNagel webutils.pl/index.php?idx=uu Well in this case I just googled "uudecoder online" and got that link
but in general there will be a linux uudecode utility
@RоryMcCune pls roro that code was national secret and you've fed it to an online tool?!?!
@Simon yeah I'm like that... #YOLO
@RоryMcCune B-163 ? Not a very common curve.
Someone got a bit over-the-top when trying to out-geek his fellows.
18:21
unfortunatly over binary field ...
@ThomasPornin ahh I know nothing, I'm just the master of online UUDecoding :)
hehe
@ThomasPornin @RоryMcCune point-at-infinity.org/ecc/phrecc.txt
if you want to take a closer look
@ThomasPornin I'd appreciate if you'd use the term "out-nurd" from now on.
@Simon You have to be a nerd to make a difference between geek and nerd.
Are you calling me a nurd?!?!?
18:29
No, a nerd.
"Nurd" rhymes with "turd".
Simon has a robot with his name on it
and uses this as profile pic
@ThomasPornin That's just racist now.
coughs
@SebastianNagel Is an electronic toy a robot to you?
You silly donut.
@SebastianNagel Amusing. A bit incomplete, though; notably, it does not talk about Montgomery's ladder, which is a way more efficient (and arguably safer) method to compute things on binary curves.
No word about Koblitz curves and the Frobenius endomorphism either.
@ThomasPornin puh I am no expert :-)
but already read those keywords somewhere else
probably will take me some time to get there
@SebastianNagel Koblitz curves are Y^2+XY = X^3 + aX^2 + b with b = 1 and a = 0 or 1.
Frobenius endomorphism is phi(X, Y) = (X^2, Y^2)
It turns out that on a Koblitz curve on a binary field, for every point P in the curve, phi(P) is also a point on the curve
And it is linear: phi(P) = kP for some constant k (that can be calculated explicitly)
This operation can replace the point doublings in the doubling-and-add algorithm, and is much more efficient.
It requires some conversion of the multiplier to get it in base k instead of base 2, and the details are a bit mind-boggling, but the result is a very fast elliptic curve implementation.
With modern x86 hardware, Koblitz curves have the current speed record (up to twice faster than Curve ed25519 for the same security level).
18:40
ah yeah about Curve25519 I read an paper
Curve25519 is a curve in Z_p (p prime) with equation By^2 = x^3 + Ax^2 + x. It allows for the use of Montgomery's ladder. It has the drawback of being necessarily of even order.
is even order a drawback due to possible attacks ?
I have to implement an ECC for my thesis . At the moment I'm struggling a bit with topic . So not quite sure if 4 months are enought to implement a Koblitz Curves . The Mathematics behind it seems pretty extensive and I started from zero
@SebastianNagel It needs some care in some cases where the point is of low order. E.g. there is a point of order 2. This can imply some divisions by 0.
Curve ed25519 (which may be called "Curve 25519" by some people -- that's confusing) is a "twisted Edwards curve" which is birationally equivalent to Curve25519, but with a change of variables that allows for slightly faster computations and less special cases.
@SebastianNagel 4 months should be more than enough if you want a working implementation. In fact you should be done within one week.
If you want an optimized implementation that is shielded against side-channel attacks, then that's more work...
A simple implementation would be enough thought haha
@ThomasPornin may for you ;-) for me it's a lot of stuff go through
@SebastianNagel Read this book: cacr.uwaterloo.ca/ecc
Start with the sample chapter, which is free and covers finite field arithmetics
In particular binary fields.
18:53
Already orderd this one at the libary
thanks for the hint . Will definitly do that :-)
Then do your implementation in a language where you have nice integer types with modulo arithmetics and definite sizes.
I.e. Java or C#. C or C++ would need a lot more care.
C it should run on an 16 Bit uC at the end
Ooh I see that you like challenges.
@ThomasPornin why are you so familiar with this kind of stuff ? :-)
@SebastianNagel I am the Bear !
18:55
Hm yep . Want to learn C :D
Crap, I wanted to reply for him.
and the topic seemed prretty suitable somehow
He is the nurd.
what about you ? :D
I'm the nurd that tries to not be one.
18:56
The electronic toy ?
In C, stick to unsigned integer types, preferably the "fixed size" ones (like uint16_t and uint32_t).
@Simon E-Toy sounds better to me
@SebastianNagel Whatever floats your boat, foreign boy.
@SebastianNagel That book has a lot of information but is a less easy read: hyperelliptic.org/HEHCC
@RоryMcCune This is good, from PCWorld:
> If the Surface Pro is a tablet that can replace your laptop, as Microsoft’s marketing crowed last year, does that make the Surface laptop a laptop that can replace your tablet that replaces your laptop?
19:02
@Iszi heh nice
(Interesting to note: Multiple sources seem to have problems calling it "Surface Book" - they very often refer to it as "Surface Laptop" or "the Surface laptop".)
That's not interesting at all.
@ThomasPornin do you know if there are code examples in ? Guess this would help me a lot
@SebastianNagel Ye don't understand things by reading other people's code.
Only if you suffer through hours of debug and printf() will you learn how such things work.
@ThomasPornin theory + code example should be good practice . Isn't it ?
Adi
Adi
19:08
I'm wondering if SSLv3 usage has any tangible impact on the connection's integrity
@Adi On integrity, not really.
Adi
Adi
Yeah, I thought so
Decryption is no biggie in the situation I'm thinking about
But if you have to use SSL 3.0 and cannot use TLS 1.0, then this means that you are using an SSL implementation that has not been updated for 15 years or so, so chances are that it is full of unpatched holes.
Adi
Adi
@ThomasPornin Nah. There's a support for 1.2
The site is only used to deliver one .js file
Somebody marked the POODLE thing as Severe in the report
and I really don't agree with it
So use TLS 1.0+. It is simpler to reject SSL 3.0 than to explain to people why SSL 3.0 is not a problem in your specific case.
Adi
Adi
19:14
@ThomasPornin But then I wouldn't be able to show off the length of my Crypto Penis in front of my coworkers
3
@RоryMcCune Looks like everyone is comparing the Surface Book to the Lenovo Yoga, in terms of form factor, about as much as they're comparing it to the MacBook Pro.
@Adi Technically you would be showing mine...
3
Short (stupid) question for the high-rep users: Did you already get the migration path for Crypto.SE? Or at least any official reaction on the topic?
Adi
Adi
@ThomasPornin If you wanna get into the technicality, it's actually showing off the length of my Crypto Penis after the measurement has been verified by you
So, thank you for helping me measure my penis, @Thomas
4
Did you two get possessed by me?
19:20
@Simon ... you already argued about the length of your (crypto) penis!?
@CodesInChaos Shush you, I don't want you to join this crypto discussion.
@Adi And here I was thinking all metric standards of measure are stored somewhere in France. Apparently, one such standard of measure got away and lives a happy life somewhere in Canada.
@SEJPM No but I've posted countless dumb things in here.
@Simon so you caused the DMZ warning?: "Foreign mods please consult the local team before considering bans :)"
@SEJPM I have helped it for sure.
19:24
@TildalWave The mètre étalon no longer is the root of the definition of the metric system.
@ThomasPornin Really? You're talking about weens and then étalon?
@Adi Man, I'd love to see the people who get that one on ShitSESays.
@Simon Tsss... cannot I do French puns discreetly ?
You're using 'crypto' in the same sense as the 'crypto' in 'Cryptozoology', right?
3
@ThomasPornin Unless it's about eating the parquet, nope!
Adi
Adi
19:26
@CodesInChaos Of course. We all know that my penis is mythical
@CodesInChaos Well, I did participate to the NESSIE project after all.
@ThomasPornin You've created the Loch Ness monster?
@ThomasPornin Entropy got the better of it? I wonder if they'd still disqualify it as a standard of measure if it got bigger. :D
I'm so hip I have trouble seeing over my pelvis.
I really really wanted to get "HELP HELP I'M BEING REPRESSED" engraved on my phone but it's too many characters :[
19:44
@DavidFreitag Did you try "SOS Trapped in phone factory!" ?
@Iszi I only get 14 characters
Hm.
Which, as it turns out, isn't very long.
@Iszi Why not "I'm a real boy"
It's 15 fucking characters.
There's nothing you can make with 14 characters lads.
I'm having a hard time to use Twitter and now you're asking me 90% less characters?
"BOOOOOOOOOBIES" is the only suitable one I have found yet
2
19:45
@Simon Yes there is: Any password hashed with LAN Manager.
And my math was wrong.
No, my math was fine.
Ah fuck this, I don't care if it was right or wrong.
I also really really wanted to engrave "She turned me into a newt"
@DavidFreitag what is a "newt"?
@Iszi This could turn a curious soul into an insane one.
"WHAT IS IT????"
A newt is a semiaquatic amphibian of the family Salamandridae, although not all aquatic salamanders are considered newts. Newts are classified as a part of the salamandrid subfamily Pleurodelinae, and can be found in North America, Europe and Asia. Newts metamorphose through three distinct developmental life stages: aquatic larva, terrestrial juvenile (called an eft), and adult. Adult newts have lizard-like bodies and may be either fully aquatic, living permanently in the water, or semiaquatic, living terrestrially, but returning to the water every year to breed. == NamesEdit == The Old English...
19:49
@DavidFreitag thanks, not an english native and didn't know that word (yet) :)
LM hash, LanMan hash, or LAN Manager hash is a compromised password hashing function that was the primary hash that Microsoft LAN Manager and Microsoft Windows versions prior to Windows NT used to store user passwords. Support for the legacy LAN Manager protocol continued in later versions of Windows for backward compatibility, but was recommended by Microsoft to be turned off by administrators; as of Windows Vista, the protocol is disabled by default, but continues to be used by some non-Microsoft CIFS implementations. == Algorithm == The LM hash is computed as follows: The user's password is...
@Iszi No, the hashed string on the phone you donut.
Why do you guys think I'm this crazy? Look at my ex-dad not understanding anything.
@Simon What hashed string on whose phone?
Yep, yep.
@Iszi Your hashed string on @Simon's mom's phone. If you know what I mean.
19:56
@DavidFreitag I dunno. Ask @kalina.
@Iszi Well you see, when a man and a woman are in love...
Funfact: LM hash was announced to be the PHC winner but somehow nobody took it seriously....
I wonder if I can engrave unicode characters
If I can I'm totes doing table flip
I hope you enjoy rectangles.
Nope no unicode D:
Having "¯_(ツ)_/¯" on the back of my phone would have been pretty awesome.
Lol, it doesn't even render properly in chat
I think I will settle with (V)(;,;)(V)
Why not Zoidberg?
20:18
@TildalWave The meter is now defined as: the 1/299792458th part of the distance covered by light in vacuum in 1 second.
hey @Adi, dunno why this popped up for me, but it caught my eye - it seems to be in your neighborhood, since of course all of Finland is one small neighborhood within easy driving distance.... aaaaanyway, if you're interested... linkedin.com/jobs2/view/90633388
And the second is now defined with transitions between energy levels in the nucleus of a Cesium atom.
seems like it would be good for you, and you always say there are no jobs in Finland...
@ThomasPornin those sound very subjective.
@Iszi this is boring
from now on I want to receive no boring pings
ZERO
@kalina that's what SHE said! Bazinga!
20:24
especially from you, @AviD
no idea, I just walked in.
I typed that and hit enter before you posted
and then you posted
and walking right back out... I HAVE A CONFERENCE TO PUT ON
that's incredible intuition there
nobody cares
haha
20:24
what is your conference for?
@kalina AppSecIL presumably
yes, that
boring
@ThomasPornin Didn't we already go over this?
Can we get rid of the god damn tag?
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Q: list of good security books one should read

ayoubovi started reading Kali linux basic testing ,and learning python any recommended books ?? i want to learn more about security or cyber threats

20:40
@Simon hells no, why would we do that?
just because there are some crap questions being asked?
SOME?
A LOT
SOMEALOT
FACEALOT
hehehe, just saw an old acquaintance's LinkedIn title, best ever:
> Medical Cannabis Advocate

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