The DMZ

3:05 AM

This is taken from the "Secure Development Guide" for a big application by a gigantic company. The application can (and does) handle power stations, railway switchboard, trains, wind turbines, etc.

TildalWave

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@Adnan you need something else annihilated? :)

Adnan

3:36 AM

@Tildal Thanks a lot

TildalWave

@Adnan sure

Terry Chia

4:47 AM

TIL: Good random number generation is hard in PHP, so Wordpress HTTP GETs random salt from http://wordpress.org. https://github.com/WordPress/WordPress/blob/fd838ccb2b1d37bda02eecdf09c324863f050812/wp-admin/setup-config.php#L211

Tweeted by garybernhardt on June 20, 2014 at 9:49 PM

Wait WTF?

TildalWave

@TerryChia it's early here ... is that bad?

> define('AUTH_KEY', 'akrK9Mt?daanGQ9,g`+Ci>XoSn7Ntkky[8C}cg-@Pcs&X| !@)$Q4eBso1XAv;oi');
define('SECURE_AUTH_KEY', 'D%4/]#x@elT0!YVU+3HSZ&n&YOt~&+9e+sTg%;|>`TsF($(Z KKspiJ017`%`1](');
define('LOGGED_IN_KEY', '$<g0:wz.M|PT[H`*cKdp}8SCE{DdKaFsX-+jR3]Ii5zNj=U]O=<{9zw8j<{e=J9z');
define('NONCE_KEY', '$W$rsB`r@(-~Zo|eiqLRCU[E};cuS8`48kocEfJ.$=p){|lriQa?1HZ7StSV6e]J');
define('AUTH_SALT', '[gv-g$on>*X +0X:{C+dbs`;V`O<&+eJ;Wx?_cnoNZ>Vd|<EJY*]wh[5#pDM%MV~');
define('SECURE_AUTH_SALT', 'K4Y}.*f|)R<H<D=87hO87;X<AjbfvEs}E8ej),u-G$nIn{{jGKyEI<5}MGnJ6~qn');

Terry Chia

@TildalWave Wordpress generates salts by sending a GET to a remote URL instead of generating one locally with a CSPRNG. So yes, that's terrible.

TildalWave

@TerryChia you mean because it can be intercepted? or ... ?

ah OK yes ... sorry, slowly waking up still

Terry Chia

@TildalWave Because the idea that my local installation of Wordpress has to rely on a remote service for salt generation is terrible.

TildalWave

@TerryChia The idea of using Wordpress for anything isn't terrible enough?

Terry Chia

4:58 AM

@TildalWave It's just another level of terrible.

TildalWave

man, you realize it would probably take you less time to write whatever you have it setup to do for you yourself and do that properly?

Adnan

6:04 AM

Well, this is a new one for me. WiFi on the airplane

Terry Chia

@Adnan I have been on one or two flights with WiFi. Isn't it crazy expensive though?

Lucas Kauffman

7:04 AM

lol wat

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman wat?

Lucas Kauffman

the wordpress thingy

that's really funny

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman Ah. Terrible isn't it?

Lucas Kauffman

@TerryChia I'm not really sure why they do it and even if you would need such a feature, it would be better to be able to opt in rather than ou

tt

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman Because generating random data locally is a terribly difficult thing to do!

Lucas Kauffman

7:10 AM

@TerryChia well we must not forget one thing Terry, in the end it's wordpress

and wordpress is written in PHP

I should migrate my blog one of these days though

I'm still using WP

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman Layers of crap piled on top of one another isn't it?

Lucas Kauffman

@TerryChia the performance is terrible

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman Jekyll ftw. (Or Pelican if you want Python.)

Can't beat static pages served out of a CDN.

Lucas Kauffman

yea I think I might change to jekyll

oh wait they have an easy migration tool

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman You have to check the results first, it screwed with one or two of my pages when I migrated.

Not too bad though all things considered.

Lucas Kauffman

7:13 AM

yea of course, I mean dev, test, acceptance -> prod

that's what you are supposed to do right not go in all #YOLO

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman Awwhhh cmon! No one reads your blog anyway. ;)

Lucas Kauffman

@TerryChia I'm not sure how many people read it actually, the android tutorials and the java to python tutorial were actually quite popular

let me have a look on analytics

This month so far, from the first of june until now I had 2404 visitors

Terry Chia

I only get 1k or so sessions a month, I'm not sure how well Google filters out bots though?

So yeah, the only reason I blog is because I like reading the stuff I write. (Same reason I'm on Stack Exchange actually) ;)

Lucas Kauffman

@TerryChia not sure either

@TerryChia you like reading the stuff you write :P?

Terry Chia

@LucasKauffman Well, someone has to.

Lucas Kauffman

7:18 AM

that's a bit like smelling your own fart

xD

I think at my peak, I got about 6k visitors a month, but that was just the android tutorials

Gilles

spam votes plz

Lucas Kauffman

theonion.com/articles/…

Gilles

-1

Q: How can I send an unencrypted message from one computer to another?

As you can see, I'm a noob. I'd love to do a demonstration where I send an unencrypted message from one computer to another, and be able to intercept it and read its contents. This might sound stupid, but I actually cannot find a way to send messages across a server in plaintext. Any help would ...

encryption

wat?

Lucas Kauffman

@Gilles genius

Adnan

@Terry I don't know. It's free with this airline (Norwegian)

Terry Chia

7:29 AM

@Adnan Woah! That's pretty neat.

Adnan

Aaand.. Whoa! I've just noticed. They didn't ask us to do anything with our electronics

No flying mode and no turning off

Yup! Norwegian is my new best budget airline

Gilles

it's a new thing, the US stopped forbidding using electronic items a few months ago (last year maybe by now), the EU followed suit, and many individual airlines stopped having the no-electronics policy now that it isn't mandatory

@Adnan wow: say that... and get booted offline

Terry Chia

@Gilles Yep, I noticed the same on my recent trip to Korea.

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan can you read arabic?

I'm trying to understand this:

Gilles

@LucasKauffman have you tried Google Translate? They have a scan-ocr-and-translate facility now

Lucas Kauffman

7:39 AM

@Gilles wait wat

Adnan

@Lucas Let's see

Gilles

of course, with automatic translation, the result can be as obscure as the original

Adnan

10:05 AM

@Lucas Basically, first comment says that the dead dude is going to hell for being Christian. Second comment condems the first and wishes the best to the dude's family and RIP. Third comment says that you shouldn't say RIP because the dead is Christian.

Last comment says "I'm ashamed of the things spme of us Myslims do and say. Religion has nothong to do with this. Some dude died, may him RIP"

From what I can infer, they're talking about some mudered dude

Terry Chia

11:38 AM

►

This talk has an interesting title.

Terry Chia

1:07 PM

@ScottPack Hey Scott, have you given RHEL 7 a whirl yet?

Scott Pack

I work for an Ubuntu shop now.

Terry Chia

Ahh I see. Was wondering how the OS is.

Can't personally give it a try until CentOS is ready.

Scott Pack

If I remember I can reach out to some guys and ask if they've started testing it.

Terry Chia

Nah, no need. I probably won't remember as well. :)

Scott Pack

@LucasKauffman One nice thing about WP is the ability to write and schedule posts. The workflow to do that with Jekyll is a fair bit messier. You also need to pull in several doodads from different places and glue them together to get a good feature set.

Terry Chia

1:12 PM

@ScottPack at?

Scott Pack

@LucasKauffman What I've done is Disqus for comments, Google Analytics for tracking, bufferapp for announcements.

@TerryChia It depends on your workflow. What you'd have to do is have the full jekyll tree on your web host and have the webserver serve up the _site directory. You could then set an at job, or a cronjob for that matter, to run a jekyll build.

Terry Chia

@ScottPack Personally I am using GitHub pages now so it's a simple git push. My previous setup was building locally and using rsync for deployment. Both works well with at.

Scott Pack

@TerryChia I didn't want any of the build tools on my webhost so I do all my authoring and building on my laptop and have the _site directory as a git repo. When it's time to publish I check that out on the webhost.

Rоry McCune

@ScottPack what you using for build automation now you're ubuntuing?

Scott Pack

Unless you only ever have one future post in the queue timing gets wonky if you try to build in advance.

@RоryMcCune I'm getting Foreman up and running. I'm really digging it so far.

Rоry McCune

1:16 PM

I had a look at chef-solo the other day but it's chances of working on windows == smeg all :)

Terry Chia

@ScottPack That may be true. I never run across this because I never had the interest of scheduling posts to go out at certain times. I just publish whenever I'm finished.

Scott Pack

@TerryChia When I decided to host my own I went through my history of guest posts and pulled them in to publish. That way everything I really liked would be in one consistent location. That made the idea of putting up a schedule pretty reasonable.

Terry Chia

@ScottPack Ahh. That's sensible if you don't want everything up at once.

Scott Pack

@RоryMcCune I haven't set up Foreman to be an ENC for puppet yet but it's pretty slick. Go into one web interface, define your server, hit go, and walk away. It'll create the VM in the right ESX cluster, on the right datastore, configure the hardware how you told it to, use gPXE to boot it, install it with preseed, then run puppet.

Terry Chia

@ScottPack Wrong Rory.

Scott Pack

1:19 PM

@RоryMcCune Allegedly if you set it up as your ENC it'll even do all the certificate signing.

@TerryChia His attempt to reduce errant pinging has resulted in more errant pinging. :)

Terry Chia

@ScottPack Yeah, but the pings go to @RoryAlsop so I'm sure he's fine with it. ;)

Scott Pack

@TerryChia Probably so.

Rоry McCune

@TerryChia @RoryAlsop loves pings

I'd switch back but if I did I'm sure the generic pings would return :op

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune It was a lot more efficient when one can ping both of you at once. ;)

Scott Pack

Or when I had the right keys on my keyboard to actually ping you @RоryMcCune

Rоry McCune

1:24 PM

@TerryChia yeah but it's far more frequent for people to want to ping @RoryAlsop rather than me, him being a mod and all....

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune True. Especially since he is the only reasonable mod that hangs out in The DMZ. ;)

Rоry McCune

@TerryChia oooh @avid burn

Adnan

1:42 PM

Yaaay! I'm in Cambridge!

Soo damn hot!

No crosswalks!

Terry Chia

@Adnan I laugh at your complaints about the heat. :P

Adnan

Everybody has a funny accent

@Terry Beeecause?

Terry Chia

@Adnan Because I live in Singapore. Where its hot and humid every single day of the year. :)

Scott Pack

@Terry That's a mistake you can fix.

Terry Chia

@ScottPack Nah, it's a pretty great country except for the weather.

Good food, great internet.

Scott Pack

1:48 PM

It may be a great country but what about the city?

Terry Chia

@ScottPack One and the same thing. :)

Scott Pack

So do you ever hang out with JourneyMan?

Terry Chia

@ScottPack I'm not a ServerFault person remember?

Scott Pack

Neither is he.

Terry Chia

2:07 PM

@ScottPack Hmm? Then SU? I can't remember.

Scott Pack

Aye, Superuser.

Terry Chia

@ScottPack Ahh. I don't use that either. :P

Lucas Kauffman

2:24 PM

@TerryChia we will put you together until you kiss

Rory Alsop

Apparently I love the pings! :-)

Afternoon all

Rоry McCune

2:51 PM

@Adnan woo! watch out for bicyclists...

@RoryAlsop yep I'm sure I've heard it said that you love big pings and you cannot lie...

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune Is pings a euphemism now?

Rоry McCune

@TerryChia well I was kind of referring to a sir mix-a-lot track...

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune Sureeee. ;)

Rоry McCune

@TerryChia wait you've never seen/heard the classic "I like big butts and I cannot lie"?

Terry Chia

@RоryMcCune That sounds vaguely familiar but I can't say for sure.

Rоry McCune

2:57 PM

@TerryChia here (evidently NSFW) youtube.com/watch?v=SYyd0dvNNXU

Rory Alsop

3:27 PM

Have you heard the Jonathan Coulton version?

Scott Pack

4:23 PM

I find it hard to live in a world where the children haven't listened to Sir Mix-A-Lot growing up.

Xander

4:57 PM

@ScottPack Funny...I was just talking about Sir Mix a Lot in this very room the other day.

In a generational boundries sort of conversation.

Adnan

5:08 PM

@RоryMcCune I've hired one once I arrived. So I'm now one of them

Riding to the left.. arruugghhhh!

I was on the train to Cambridge this morning, and I heard the following: "I looked at it, and I couldn't believe it. It was massive!! It was very blue as well"

5

Then after a few British sentences that I couldn't catch, the lady says "I felt so bad for her"

The other lady answers "Yeah, I know what you mean. I've hit my toe on the door so many times as well"

and she said "massive" with a very English accent.

CodesInChaos

@TerryChia Great? You seriously call Singapore great? It's tiny.

Terry Chia

@CodesInChaos It's not about the size. ;)

Adnan

@TerryChia I kind of agree with you. So far, all I've heard about Singapore is positive.

Except the freaking weather

CodesInChaos

@TerryChia Admittedly it might be slightly bigger than massive blue toes.

Adnan

5:23 PM

and why do the bikes ride in the street next to the cars?!

They have lanes, but they're very limited

And what's with the police everywhere?

EVERYWHERE!

and what's with the 45-minute "interview" I had to take part in when I arrived?

FEichinger

Most of that is because you're a terrorist.

Adnan

"When was the last time you've been to Syria? What have you done there? Do you know people involved in the events there?"

People involved in the civil war... let me think.. the whole fucking country?

Terry Chia

@FEichinger That's a relatively good assumption considering the things he says in here. ;)

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan "Well I do have an explossive character constable"

CodesInChaos

@Adnan You're obviously a muslim nazi communist who wants to terrorize a tiny Asian country. Sounds plausible...

Adnan

5:29 PM

@FEichinger The dude next to me, from Russia, was asked about his plans in the UK, to which he answered "I'm just coming forrr two dayys vacations. Have you ever heard of a white man making bomb? I just do vacation!"

Lucas Kauffman

@CodesInChaos he's in the UK I think not singapore :p

FEichinger

White man make no bomb. Brown man make bomb.

Adnan

I said in a low voice "Breivik, IRA, etc."

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan 2 day vacation :p

Adnan

The officer lady laughed

Lucas Kauffman

5:30 PM

@Adnan okay did they do a cavity search?

Adnan

@LucasKauffman They didn't, but they took my halva :(

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan your what?

CodesInChaos

@Adnan More evidence towards you being a TERRORIST.

Lucas Kauffman

@Adnan ah why did they do that? You were coming from another EU country no?

Gilles

@Adnan the British have an aversion to decent food

Adnan

5:31 PM

@LucasKauffman Umm... the most delicious thing god ever created! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halva

Lucas Kauffman

^this

Fish and chips mate all you need

Adnan

@LucasKauffman Finland, yup.

Lucas Kauffman

why weren't you allowed to bring it in then?

Terry Chia

@Adnan Isn't that bacon?

Gilles

Cambridge has some semi-decent Indian and Chinese restaurants (bad ones as well)

FEichinger

5:32 PM

@Gilles Psh. "Decent".

Gilles

Avoid any European restaurant

Adnan

@Gilles Ahh.. don't salt me wound. A few hours I went to have some "authentic British food"

Lucas Kauffman

@Gilles you mean in the UK?

Gilles

@Adnan curry?

Adnan

@Gilles I went to a place called Dojo

Gilles

5:33 PM

@LucasKauffman I mean in Cambridge, at least. Most of the UK as well.

Adnan

Much like the JS library, it was awful

Lucas Kauffman

@Gilles there are good ones, unfortunately they are also very expensive

Adnan

I was yelled at at least 3 times

"Go sit on the table!!!"

3

What the fuck? Just asking where the toilet is

"Could I have a fork please"
"Why do you want fork?!"

CodesInChaos

@Adnan Fork you!!!

FEichinger

If you're asked to sit on the table, you've entered a strip club, not a restaurant.

2

Adnan

5:35 PM

"Can I have the bill, please?"
"Stop asking. We'll get it when we get it"

and I'm not exaggerating

Lucas Kauffman

netherlands is also not too great when it comes to food

Adnan

They're the Amy Bakery of Asian food

Lucas Kauffman

Germany is actually quite nice, so is France and Belgium

Adnan

@CodesInChaos I just got it :(

Terry Chia

@FEichinger Maybe he was eating at a strip club. Why the judgement? ;)

Adnan

5:36 PM

@FEichinger Not a big fan. If I wanted a saggy lady with a tuna-dipped groin, I'd hook up with a Russian girl from the school.

Rоry McCune

@Adnan yeah that happens, dedicated bike lanes are somewhat in short supply in the UK...

Adnan

I'm now staying in a place a bit outside the city

Kisunminttu

I'm looking at my contact information and there's a phone number that I've never seen in my life, marked as mine.

Adnan

On Hungtingdon Road

Rоry McCune

@Gilles actually less true than it used to be.... we have some good restaurants

Adnan

5:38 PM

@Kisunminttu That's your stalker! Does it start with +32?

Kisunminttu

@Adnan No, 0400. No +...

@Adnan what did you eat?

FEichinger

@TerryChia I just figured, what with @Kisu reading here, he might not want to share that information. ;)

Adnan

@Kisunminttu I don't wanna talk about that experience.

Rоry McCune

@Adnan ahh asian restaurants in the UK sometimes are like that, renowned for extremely quick service, for better or worse. I'd recommend looking at trip advisor for lists of good places :)

Adnan

@FEichinger Nah, I wouldn't think about going to such places. I already see in @Kisu all I want/like.

@RоryMcCune Hmm.. I've actually found a couple of things to do in the town on Meetup.com

Kisunminttu

5:41 PM

@Adnan Is this a hint that we need to get a pole in the living room?

Adnan

@Kisunminttu Don't I already bring one with me every time I come to your place?

Kisunminttu

@Adnan Well played, my good sir.

Adnan

wink wink

@Kisunminttu That's not how you address me

Kisunminttu

@Adnan I apologize, Master.

Lucas Kauffman

@Kisunminttu You've been a bad girl.

Kisunminttu

5:44 PM

@LucasKauffman Only @Adnan can judge that

FEichinger

Get a room, you two.

Adnan

@FEichinger @Lucas and I?

FEichinger

Yes, exactly.

Adnan

@Kisu "Nyt tuntuu Suomi."

:|

Lucas Kauffman

jä

Kisunminttu

5:49 PM

@Adnan Yeah. I said it when I noticed the temperature difference between the hot tub and outside air. The hot tub was "Mallorca"

Adnan

@Kisunminttu Mmhm

Kisunminttu

@Adnan What is it?

Adnan

@RoryM Is it customary in the UK to have a "Midsummer picnic" or something like that?

I saw many people drinking wine and eating sandwiches on the grass this afternoon

Rоry McCune

@Adnan basically when it's nice in the uk loads of people pile out to parks for outdoor eating

I think mainly 'cause it's rarely nice enough :)

so everyone is conditioned to take advantage when they can ...

Adnan

@RоryMcCune Nice! Tomorrow I'm going with a bunch of people to do that. Fucking vegans! But still, they seemed nice

Rоry McCune

5:58 PM

@Adnan you found a group of random vegans? or was this via meetup?

Adnan

@RоryMcCune Yep

Also, on the train, I met a lady who started telling me about her little cactus

Rоry McCune

@Adnan cool!

@Adnan random!

Adnan

I swear, all the time I thought it was a euphemism

Until she showed me an actual tiny cactus

She had it in her purse

Gilles

ouch

Rоry McCune

@Adnan that is .... very random, the english are eccentric tho'

Adnan

6:02 PM

On the bus (Citi 1) form the train station to Cambridge center, a young lady (18-19) was sitting behind me. She insisted that I show her what color my mobile is

When she saw it's yellow, she said "You're cool. I'm Rachel"

I said "I'm Cool"

Kisunminttu

@Adnan It is an unusual colour

Rоry McCune

@Adnan you must have an inviting face, I can honestly say I've almost never had a conversation on public transport in the UK

apart from the usual "late again" grumbles

Adnan

@RоryMcCune I've arrived this morning, and I've had at least 5

2

2 ladies and 3 gentlemen

Rоry McCune

how unusual..

Adnan

@RоryMcCune Hmm.. I must say I initiated 4/5

Rоry McCune

6:05 PM

I was going to say the british are pretty reserved but I've heard that finns are likewise...

@Adnan ahh talking to people, you'll get away with it though you're foreign :)

Adnan

@RоryMcCune Oh no, from what I've seen today, Finns are much more reserved

Rоry McCune

@Adnan wow.

right I'm off for some homemade vegan curry...

Adnan

@Kisu On the bus from Stadion Hostel to Rautatientori, I talked to the driver. He's Lebanese. He gave me a regional ticket for free (so I don't have to pay for the Rautatientori-Lentoasema bus)

@RоryMcCune Then you'd be perfect to join us tomorrow

Kisunminttu

@Adnan Score!

Adnan

@Kisunminttu He also told me his story. He's been here for 14 years

To me ear, he spoke perfect Finnish

Kisunminttu

6:07 PM

@Adnan What's his story? (I'm off now, see you in a bit)

Rоry McCune

6:42 PM

@Adnan heh, we'll prob. be a bit late in for tomorrow but dinner sounds like a plan at some point during the week :)

Adnan

@RоryMcCune Damn! If @Kisu was with me, we'd do couply things and tease the DMZ

Rоry McCune

@Adnan darn ! Well anyway this'll extend the chain of DMZ regulars who have met. Now covers quite a few..

Adnan

@RоryMcCune Let's see if @RoryA won't chicken out in the last moment

Because others (not calling names) have done that

Rory Alsop

I'm not in Cambridge... :-(

Adnan

@RoryAlsop No no, I was thinking Glasgow or near it

Rory Alsop

6:56 PM

Well, if it is in the next 5 days but not Thursday, definitely!

Adnan

@RoryAlsop Oh.. hmm.. At least for me I won't be there before 30th

Rory Alsop

Ah. Damn. I will be near Gibraltar by that point.

Adnan

@RoryAlsop When are you coming back?

Rory Alsop

13th

Adnan

Hmm.. well.. too bad I guess

Rory Alsop

7:02 PM

:-(

Adnan

Nah, it;s alright. We'll have lots of more chances later

Rоry McCune

@Adnan moving to Scotland?

Lucas Kauffman

8:24 PM

@RоryMcCune He will become a highlander

From the Syrian mountains to the Scottish ones

Rory Alsop

9:51 PM

@LucasKauffman There can be only one!

Lucas Kauffman

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Iszi

@TildalWave So, what's up with the SpaceX broadcasting policy? I could understand them saying "We're just quitting it" if they weren't already planning to broadcast this launch yesterday.

Lucas Kauffman

LMFAO

TildalWave

Space launch providers that don't broadcasts them: Chinese & Russian military launches, Israeli launches off a mil. base & now @SpaceX

Tweeted by TildalWave on June 21, 2014 at 9:38 PM

Lucas Kauffman

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TildalWave

9:59 PM

in The Pod Bay, 42 mins ago, by TildalWave

> SpaceX spokesperson Emily Shanklin says there is "no special reason" the company is not webcasting today's launch.
"We've actually been ready to move away from the webcasts for awhile," she wrote in an email to Spaceflight Now. "It takes a lot of resources but the main reason is these launches are becoming more routine and the full webcast isn't really appropriate anymore."

their policy seems to be the very same routine complacency that Feynman bottom spanked NASA for

Lucas Kauffman

According to Google, Thomas is pedobear :O

TildalWave

@LucasKauffman that's awful lol

Iszi

@TildalWave Yeah, I get that. But it still doesn't really make that much sense from a PR standpoint since they were already going to be broadcasting it if it had launched yesterday.

TildalWave

@Iszi I don't know man, it's odd ... but I have no additional info on their reasoning, except what I posted. I could speculate tho, that it has something to do with latest developments in Senate / House, SpaceX lawsuit against ULA / Air Force, and information embargo for the sake of lobbying. But that's all speculative.

From yesterday to today, what happened is that US is seeking more sanctions against Russia, and House is looking to sponsor domestic built RD-180's ... that last one isn't in SpaceX interests, quite the opposite

spacepolicyonline.com/news/…

@Iszi You have Channel 13 available? They're telly broadcasting it, and will post a video of it online if it launches. If the weather clears in the next 15 minutes that is. Otherwise they're gonna scrub it again.

@Iszi Also ... move your butt to The Pod Bay for Space Exploration stuff ... can't you see everyone else is on topic here in the DMZ?? LOL

Gilles

10:19 PM

in Software Recommendations, 2 mins ago, by Gilles

@damryfbfnetsi no, I don't do dogs

Gilles

10:38 PM

in Software Recommendations, 10 mins ago, by Gilles

I could get behind this one:

Iszi

11:12 PM

@TildalWave Are you sure about that? I haven't seen a post about boobs in awhile.

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