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12:25 AM
@Raindrop I would say hello but clearly you wanted hospitality redacted.
@M'vy I suppose is an eigen a proper subset of so by the transitive property then would also be a proper subset of .
@M'vy I don't really approve of the implications of that result so I suspect there may be a logical fallacy somewhere in the mix.
 
^^
 
12:59 AM
Okay, I know I'm a little late to the party but y'all enjoy:
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A: Storing passwords on a home computer

Iszi"Is [x] secure?" or "Is [x] more secure than [y]? is always a tricky question to answer. In the end, you have to boil each option down to the strengths and weaknesses of its components and then make the decision based on your own needs to balance security and usability. Here, your method of prot...

Oh, and no TL;DR for you guys this time. I'm too lazy right now.
 
This brings back memories
 
 
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6:32 AM
Heh. All the threes
Sorry, no screenshot - am on iPad for the next two days
 
 
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7:40 AM
@JeffFerland We're generally not fans of "I have a bunch of ciphertexts, please break them" questions
 
7:52 AM
@RoryAlsop perfect! well, almost.... you have too many bronzes...
 
@RoryAlsop I think now we should all vote on your sub-10 answers to give you more bronze.
 
8:29 AM
Mornin' all
BTW is the correct Sec.SE etiquette on outdated answers to updated them or place a new answer?
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Q: Lightweight Live Pen-test OS

ChadddadaDoes anyone know of any lightweight OSs that are great for Pen-testing? I would love to have a very lightweight live OS that I can boot off a USB and try some pen-testing against some of my Windows/Linux boxes. It would be nice if this OS had a toolset of different common attacks. I am sure th...

for example
has backtrack down as the winning answer but that's now more or less been replaced by kali
 
@RoryMcCune My personal opinion has always been this: If it's a substantial update and you were unsure, comment and rack a few upvotes on the comment, then update the answer.
If you were sure, then go ahead and update the answer directly.
I find that writing a new answer is sort of redundant and confusing to new visitors.
Also, updating the top-rated/accepted answer gives the new information the most visibility.
 
on the one hand that's exactly what I was thinking, on the other it seems rude to change other peoples answers...
thus asking the Q. :)
 
@RoryMcCune Personally, I don't mind my answer being edited if it were outdated.
 
8:45 AM
Morning! I think we should bring this to meat, because this is gonna be an increasingly frequent problem and it would be good if we have some policy on that to point people to in case of disputes
@RoryMcCune But I'm for it, if that helps. It's a natural update that doesn't substantially change the answer, merely updates it to be current
*meat = meta damnit (sorry, on first sips of my coffee LOL)
 
@TildalWave yeah maybe adding an update would be a good plan, retain the original answer but add new information
 
9:05 AM
@RoryMcCune in this case, it should be VTC as NC.
It's a shopping question....
Also, if its the type of question that would be outdated pretty quickly, its VTC as TL.
@TildalWave hehe, no I think we should bring it to meat. Let all issues of consequence come before MEAT!
haha, lovely prank:
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Q: How to block someone that redirected his email spams to your email address?

DiogoI have two friends (yes, belive or not they are my friends) that are redirecting all the email spam they receive to my email address. This makes my Hotmail account receive 30 spams per hour (that are not filtered), so I need to keep erasing them and blocking the sender. I already blocked their e...

 
herro morning
hows everyone?
everytime I read an answer from the bear I feel a bit bad
 
 
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10:19 AM
Is it just me or is the Microsoft Internet Authority CA not working?
 
@ManishEarth microsoft.com has no warnings for me, or were you referring to something else?
 
I recently manually updated Chrome (this is an ancient laptop)
So the CAs should be there
@lynks That's not even loading :S
 
@ManishEarth loads, and has 'verified by MSIT' without issues
 
hm
aight then
My comps screwy
 
@ManishEarth a browser update should solve cert issues
 
10:24 AM
I did
 
@ManishEarth weird, can you check to see what part of the chain is broken?
 
the MS cert
> The issuer of this certificate could not be found.
thumbprint: 99 2a d4 4d 7d ce 29 8d e1 7e 6f 2f 56 a7 b9 ca a4 1d b9 3f
Ah, I see
for some reason I don't have the root CA
CN = Baltimore CyberTrust Root
OU = CyberTrust
O = Baltimore
C = IE
 
@ManishEarth yeah I have Baltimore CT Root in FF10.2
 
Hmm, may need to update
 
10:53 AM
Weird. 4 nice answer badges in one day. Either someone has been up voting, or they were all just close anyway
 
@RoryAlsop Sockpuppet alert. SOCKPUPPET ALERT!
 
how much does the first breach cost
 
@Ethan well that depends if you want to have a short or long sleeve.
@TerryChia how's the smog?
 
11:09 AM
3 hours ago, by Adnan
@RoryAlsop I think now we should all vote on your sub-10 answers to give you more bronze.
seems you'll have to part with some bottle of whisky and send it to Finland :)
 
@LucasKauffman Much better.
 
11:49 AM
This looks interesting: github.com/jordan-wright/dumpmon
 
The new GH interface is nice too
 
I really like their gist feature
I've been thinking to use it as alternative for SyntaxHighlighter in WP
 
@LucasKauffman Same, I'm using it together with GistBox for chrome. Really handy for code snippets.
 
12:05 PM
@TerryChia oooh I like that app
 
@LucasKauffman Yup, tagging and searching with it is really handy.
 
@LucasKauffman are you still editing that Wordpress XSS answer? Looks like you wanted to add something in parentheses? ...without properly sanitizing the output (if you ).
 
@TildalWave o.O
let me check that :p
 
sure :) no problemos
 
@TildalWave removed that
 
12:14 PM
@LucasKauffman Well I have a feeling OP will have more questions anyway, but cheers - that should be one question less now! :)
 
@TildalWave yea probably
 
@TerryChia ohh nice find, that's a cool idea (if somewhat scary in terms of what the twitter feed turns up...)
 
I'm really wondering about the shit in Syria, I've been reading stuff from both sides, Assad isn't really a nice guy, but some stuff the rebels do isn't much better and sometimes even worse it seems.
The world can be one seriously F*** place sometimes
 
heh cisco config with passwords pastebin.com/raw.php?i=0HRcnbFN
 
@LucasKauffman problem is, the 'rebels' aren't a cohesive group. There are some with the right mindset of political opposition to a repressive regime, while there are plenty of others that are simply terrorists along for the ride.
which is the #1 reason we shouldn't be sending weapons to anybody
 
12:27 PM
@lynks true, I know, the question is just which one will get into power after they remove Assad. To be honnest Asad is a dictator, but dictatorship does sometimes seem to be better than Sharia law
 
@LucasKauffman I agree, its a hell of a mess.
 
It's really dark dark gray
and I agree we shouldn't be sending weapons to anyone
But it seems the Americans are looking for an excuse (chemical weapons) to get involved
I don't understand why considering Afghanistan is Vietnam #2
 
@LucasKauffman indeed. Assad's regime already pointed out that they have warplanes with bombs which are way more devastating than chemical weapons, so why would they use them...
 
@LucasKauffman Do you have experience with SQLAlchemy? If you do, do you have opinions about the performance hit of the ORM wrapper?
 
Chemical weapons are, generally, much like dirty bombs. They scare people. If you really want to do some damage fly overhead and carpetbomb.
 
12:33 PM
@TerryChia I haven't actually checked the performance, but I really like to use it since you can off load a lot of the logic and manual query building to it
 
@LucasKauffman Yeah, it looks nice and easy to use. I guess I'll just benchmark after I'm done with my code and see if the performance is acceptable.
Well, IF I ever get done with this port. (I'm attempting to port over the OWASP phprbac project into python).
 
it has got its limits though, so if you have something which is really database intensive you could only partially use its functions and write for instance prepared statements instead
@RoryMcCune plus there were reports that it wasn't Assad who was using the chemical weapons but some of the rebels who managed to get their hands on them after taking over a military base
 
@LucasKauffman Yeah, I figure I'll benchmark and write queries for the more intensive task.
 
@adnan - ahh, thanks. Think I will need to set aside a whisky for you:-)
 
@LucasKauffman yep it feels like a fit-up to me and lets face it the US/UK have not got a good track record here...
 
12:36 PM
@TerryChia that's what I did, I have something really DB instensive (some calculations and selects on millions of rows) so I created a materialized view instead
@RoryMcCune in the end for some people they just made it worse, especially if you look at Afghanistan, they are basically retreating while these guys aren't ready for it
and even local villagers say that it was better on Taliban rule because #1 the had money from growing opium and #2 there was justice because nobody dared to steal or murder as it would make you end up standing in front of a Taliban court
@RoryMcCune If you have time you should see this: vice.com/vice-news/this-is-what-winning-looks-like-full-length
 
@LucasKauffman well look at afganistan in the past the russians (who I'd imagine were willing to be way more brutal) couldn't hold it, the british empire couldn't hold it, TBH when they pull out it'll be back to same old setup I reckon inside a year
 
@RoryMcCune yea definitely, especially because the Americans aren't making the same mistake they did last time by sending them weapons
 
@LucasKauffman Don't be so quick to judge. We still have time to fuck it all up.
 
@ScottPack That video really made me pitty the American soldiers working in Afghanistan, they are there risking their life and realizing that it's basically for nothing.
</rant>
I mean that major really has my respect
 
While there are certainly exceptions, in general most people in the service are really there because they feel a need to give back (though the reasons for that need vary wildly). So knowing that it's really hard to not feel sympathy for the shit position most of them get put into.
Often with, at best, classroom training on how to handle life or death situations.
Sure, the majority of people know how to protect themselves and/or kill people, but knowing how to defuse a situation without arms or talk to a mass of people and not come away looking like a jerk? Rough.
And, now that I'll admit I have no idea what context you guys are talking about I'll end my rant too. :)
 
12:48 PM
It's not only about the life or death situations, but also the corruption they face. If you build a base and then come back to see the "Afghan Armed Forces" you left in charge there sold half of the base as scrap metal or that they sold all the fuel they were supposed to use for patrols.
That's really depressing because you realize there is no way these guys will be able to face Taliban fighters
 
I wonder how much of it is inadequate training and how much of it is inadequate trainability.
 
@ScottPack to be honest I think it's mostly the latter part, also the lack of good leadership
There were Americans which had to advice an Afghan platoon and their leader was high on heroin driving a bike around the compound
 
So it's like working in IT?
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@ScottPack hahaha!
 
@ScottPack btw the afghans were high not the americans :p
 
12:56 PM
@LucasKauffman I figured. Something that blatant would be frowned upon.
So I really like the idea of the auto-emailed report from Nessus but I wish it was more configurable.
 
@ScottPack well a bit of powershell and you'll be sorted :) darkoperator.com/blog/2013/4/18/…
 
1:16 PM
Not to sure what to think of this one: security.stackexchange.com/questions/37993/…
 
Just saw this request header:

Via:HTTP/1.1 (Velocity/3.3.14.1 [uScMs f p eN%3at cCMp s ]), HTTP/1.1 spider-mtc-td06.proxy.aol.com[400C7066] (Prism/1.2.1), HTTP/1.1 cache-mtc-aa04.proxy.aol.com[400C7408] (Traffic-Server/6.1.5 [uScM])
 
@RoryMcCune We're already 90% the way there.
@RoryMcCune We have an in house application that scans systems, uploads the results to our secure file distribution center, and emails out the report access information.
This one is an automated process that's just used for the entire network, but what I would love is to be able to have customized scans and reports for specific people.
We have a few people out there that still run their own IT stuff. Things like the academic departments that teach IT. They would love to get regular pound me in the ass level scans. Security Center would do it all, but that's hella expensive.
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@LucasKauffman I wanted to edit it for clarity, but later realized I have no idea how to do that, and still keep its intended meaning (whatever that is). So I voted with NaRQ (I've noticed someone else did the same at about the same time too).
 
@TildalWave yea me
 
@RoryMcCune The auto-email of reports option they added a few weeks ago would have really saved me some development effort.
 
1:26 PM
@Ladadadada LOL someone's got a sense of humor :)
 
@RoryAlsop Highland Park?
 
@ScottPack Nothing is expensive when it comes to SECURITY!
 
@ScottPack nice. yeah I've been looking at a VA setup to take Nessus scans, map the output of plugins to internally worded findings, suppress findings that aren't needed (e.g. nessus scan information) and then create a nice Excel report.
 
@LucasKauffman Your face is adorable.
 
@ScottPack you scan them and then afterwards you send an invoice, double ass pounding.
 
1:28 PM
although mine starts with import of a .nessus file so the automation ain't too important as yet
it would be nice to add that in.
 
What the hell? Were we discussing Syria?
 
@Adnan we did
 
@LucasKauffman a transcript check is needed then
 
@RoryMcCune I contributed to a project that Adrian de Beaupre was forking that took parsed a Nessus xml output and shoved it into a database.
 
we decided that we must send ScottPack as the new leader!
@ScottPack what language?
 
1:30 PM
@ScottPack cool. at the moment I'm adapting a ruby script I wrote that just uses nokogiri to parse the XML and extract the relevant info...
 
@RoryMcCune It looks like it ended up getting abandoned. It wasn't bad, but so much of the script was just messy copy/paste porting from a similar nmap tool. Once I finish my thesis I was going to set my next personal project to rebuilding that into something nicer.
@LucasKauffman perl
 
shivers
 
is quite nice when added to Rails ActiveRecord, although my data model is getting a bit messier than I'd like..
@LucasKauffman there's also seccubus which I think does similar things, but that's perl too
 
I think this might be the most recent version he published
 
@RoryMcCune well the name is quite well chosen then
 
1:31 PM
I really want to get into seccubus and see how well it works.
 
@Lucas Hmm.. quite an interesting discussion. I'm surprised that some are actually pretty informed on the subject.
 
We tried to use InProtect once, but that's also a project that needs to just officially die.
 
@Adnan we do our best
 
@ScottPack I never finish my personal projects. :(
 
As long as you avoid Russia Today and Fox news you should get some decent facts
 
1:33 PM
@RoryMcCune The database design is...wonky, the xml parsing is kind of messy, and I don't think I ever got it to be fully transactional.
 
@LucasKauffman Well, I guess in that case there's nothing extra I'd add.
 
I also certainly know a lot more about how to do things right than when we were working on it.
 
@Adnan well if you have different views you should share them :p
 
@ScottPack yeah to an extent that' my problem I start a project, make decisions, later realise they weren't optimal then tend to abandon it rather than go back and fix things... :)
 
@LucasKauffman Well I think what has already been said sounds reasonable enough. If I wanted to add something, I'd say that one must realize that the situation isn't black and white. It's definitely not Assad || Sharia law.
 
1:36 PM
@Adnan of course not, it's very very very gray
hopefully we get something in between
 
@Lucas The Syrian demographic is much much more complicated. Sharia law over Syria is nearly impossible.
 
@Adnan true
 
Morrrrrrrrniiiiiiing!
 
@Lucas Syria doesn't have the base for such radical change. Unlike other places, the majority of the people are well-educated and the mixture of tens of religions and sects made people more tolerant over time. I come from an area where you wouldn't believe it's part of Syria (compared to what you see in the videos, of course)
sigh.. that guy again, @Simon
 
@Adnan That's it, I'm logging out forever.
 
1:39 PM
@RoryMcCune Yeah. There's a lot I'll need to learn to do that project right, mostly around XML processing and same DB design. But first, defense.
 
@Simon Yaay
 
@Adnan WOW.
 
@Simon don't worry, I'm sure he's just happy his mind control device is finally working
 
At least my blueberries won't hurt my feelings.
@AJHenderson Looks like it doesn't work because I haven't logged out, mouahaha.
 
@Adnan true, but like the stuff which is currently happening in Aleppo is really bad
 
1:42 PM
I bet everyone at work is jealous of my blueberries. I know I'd be jealous.
 
@Simon you blueberries?
@Simon you're canadian, you are supposed to be nice and share your berries
 
@AJHenderson Hushhh!
 
@LucasKauffman I'm a quebecer, we're not nice, especially on the road.
 
@Simon Is that a euphemism?
 
@Adnan Hell no.
 
1:44 PM
Everyone quick flag this question as spam
 
@ManishEarth I can't read it
 
@LucasKauffman trust me
 
@Simon yes, but it made him THINK you did
 
it's tricky like that
 
1:46 PM
@AJHenderson Wow, I wasn't aware that he was a master mind.
 
@ManishEarth Ooooh.. my hero!!
A rep-train engineer!
Holy shit!!! 701 hotness level!!
 
@Adnan and I thought it was impressive if it went to 11
 
I hereby declare SuperCollider as the ultimate SE TrollEngine
 
@Adnan Yep. But that's not his final goal. He's doing this with a bigger plan in mind
(can't tell you what it is)
 
@ManishEarth Oh come on!!! What's the plan?
 
1:48 PM
@ManishEarth I have no idea what it is, but it's #1 on the TrollEngine ... I tried translating it, and it doesn't make much sense to me
 
@ManishEarth I don't trust a lot of people :p
 
@RoryMcCune If it interests you at all I would be totally willing to collaborate on it when I get the chance.
 
@Adnan Well, it's sorta public anyway: Vote for self on quiet sites, use assoc bonus to go elsewhere (and wreak hvoc), delete posts and then account on quiet site
 
wow, flask overstow (from that meta link) is an odd thing
 
@AJHenderson it's fun!
 
1:51 PM
mine for Sec.SE was Exchange. It may or may not be read or altered if TLS is then discarded. Thus, the private key to your contacts using it. Don't use it for anything you need to and a VPN wouldn't help there at all. The real question raised by the PRISM disclosure isn't significantly different from knowing someone was found.
If you were using the information about the cert is changed. Really advanced setups can actually monitor traffic between your systems, potentially gleaning significant information. Any systems with vulnerabilities due to lack of patching would probably be to take down your router normally gives is gone and out of them and link it for anything you need long term privacy on, but it should be hosted by entry in the profile.
It probably depends on how you need to communicate across mail servers as well, then you have no choice but to encrypt/decrypt on the?
 
@ScottPack nessusy stuff, yeah if I get some time it would be good. the basic parser piece I have up on github already, but would be interesting to look at the bigger system :)
at the moment have the delights of looking at moving house which is mega-hassle
 
Tell me about it.
 
between photos and home reports and calling estate agents and planning road trips
 
We had our home inspection for the new house on Friday. We should be closing on both at the end of the month.
 
now I just have to figure out how to get 12 more rep on AVP to hit the magical 4k on my birthday
 
1:53 PM
@ScottPack hope it works out! the market here has been dead for a couple of years so we're hoping it's picked up enough for us to get a smooth sale
 
@Adnan What's hotness level? What's the unit for that? @ScottPack?
 
@RoryMcCune All that stuff has gone well. Our current house was under contract within 2 days of listing.
 
@ScottPack nice! yeah last time we sold back in 2004 we sold the house the very first day we listed
 
@RoryMcCune The bigger annoyance is that we're moving to another city about 1.5-2 hours away. So packing. Ugh.
 
only problem then was that we had a load of brochures hanging around..
 
1:54 PM
@TildalWave I dunno
 
@TildalWave open the hot questions tab in the supercollider
 
@ManishEarth yes, done... now what?
 
@ScottPack ahh yeah we're looking at areas 2-3 hours away so yeah the move will be "fun" when/if we get it sorted
 
I hate moving.
 
@ScottPack I did the move myself once and NEVER again
let the professionals handle it...
 
1:55 PM
@RoryMcCune That last week will be stressful, just from having to coordinate closings and actually moving our stuff, but the packing up shouldn't have been so bad.
 
@ManishEarth how do I get out "701 ScottPacks"?
 
@TildalWave cloning
 
Katie's a bit of a Type-A personality, and things like packing are definitely her bag. However, from now until moving time she's going to be out of town for 3 weeks. :)
 
@ScottPack our "best" fun bit will be moving the cats. They've never really moved before so it'll be interesting I'm sure...
 
We're dealing with a 4 year old whose also never moved. :)
At least she isn't likely to poop in our shoes when she's upset.
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@RoryMcCune So 2-3 hours is quite a bit bigger over there. Where you guys going?
 
2:02 PM
@ScottPack Looking at somewhere a bit more rural, so up towards the cairngorm national park or the North east of Scotland
 
@RoryMcCune into the Scottish high lands :o?
 
@RoryMcCune Killer. I can't recall, do you guys have kids?
 
@LucasKauffman yarr
@ScottPack no kids (thank god) just the two cats
so somewhere more rural/away from roads but with decent internet access
a slightly tricky set of criteria
 
@RoryMcCune As a parent I think I'm supposed to take umbrage to that language.... :)
Wow, yeah, that's pretty far up there.
 
@ScottPack well lets just say that the only reason we can afford this kind of move will be the lack of kids :)
 
2:05 PM
where you will frolic in the mountains wearing a kilt, making the long hair (which you should grow) wave in the air
 
@LucasKauffman well I doubt my hair would ever end up long these days!
 
@RoryMcCune Every time I think about how much M.'s school costs I can't help but cringe. So yes, I can certainly understa.d
 
@ScottPack yeah the proper highlands is v.pretty lots of forests/mountains good walking territory
 
Hair singular.
 
@ScottPack hey I've not lost all my hairs so far :)
 
2:07 PM
Can we get rid of this starred "blablabla let's be nice blablabla" from @AviD? We all know he's the first one to be rude.
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We really want to get back over there. We spent a week in the borders about 10 years ago.
 
@Simon done :)
 
That being said, good advice is good advice no matter how you feel about the source.
 
@ScottPack lots to see no doubt!
 
@RoryMcCune I seem to recall @RoryAlsop complaining that you were moving to the middle of nowhere yet will still have better internet access than him.
 
2:09 PM
@RoryMcCune Damn, that was quick. Soon I'm gonna have to launch rorymccunefacts.com.
 
@TerryChia well that's actually likely, it's insane that he's 1/2 mile from me and can't get decent access (I get 22 down/3 up at the mo')
 
@RoryMcCune Quite right! Now we just need to balance being able to afford a good trip with when she'll be a good age to make it worthwhile.
 
@Simon well changing the pinned items as we go is fun :)
 
@Simon I think you will reach a wider audience with roryfacts.com
 
2:10 PM
@TerryChia Very good idea Terry.
 
@RoryMcCune I thought you were in Glasgow?
 
@RoryMcCune I didn't even know people could pin stuff, that would explain why Avid's post was up there for a while.
 
This one is also pretty funny:
 
@Simon Mods and room owners only.
 
@ScottPack grew up in Glasgow live east of there now in the central belt (near edinburgh) it's where the banks and hence the security jobs are...
@Simon yeah part of the super sekret chat room mod powers
 
2:12 PM
One day, I'll get those powers.
 
@LucasKauffman heh not sure I'd let the missus see that
 
We can also read your deleted posts.
 
And one day, @TerryChia will be an astronaut.
 
In the next mod elections, my vote will go to the guy who promises to remove that jerkface @ScottPack from room owners. :)
 
@RoryMcCune Ah, that makes more sense then. During that trip we slept in Currie. I thought it was amusing how close that is to the old man.
@TerryChia I'll make that promise right now.
 
2:13 PM
@ScottPack yep just down the road
 
@ScottPack Can you?
 
@RoryMcCune But you are a highlander now, you should also get a samourai sword
I can't see removed messages in chat
 
@LucasKauffman used to have one actually, but gave it to a friend, I wasn't really taking the time to keep it properly maintained. I don't think he's decapitated anyone with it so far..
 
@RoryMcCune what's the point of having a samourai sword if you aren't going to decapitate anyone jeez
 
@RoryMcCune Even if he did he wouldn't be telling you now would he?
 
2:19 PM
that's true :p
 
@TerryChia true true
 
Rivals Microsoft and Oracle team up on push into cloud reuters.com/article/2013/06/24/… --> I better reserve my CVE numbers!
 
@Simon That's an affirmative.
 
@ScottPack It told me that @ScottPack is not a valid IP.
 
@ManishEarth c and y word? (I won't ask in that room because it will just generate flags)
 
2:25 PM
That makes sense. It's kind of hard to DDOS a force of nature.
@LucasKauffman Candy and yoghurt?
 
@LucasKauffman Well, the y word is "yellow". Not used anymore, really.
 
:10054346 ah I see
 
I hope I don't have to explain the n word to you :P
 
@ManishEarth Nag Champa?
 
@ScottPack sure :P
 
2:28 PM
That's a rather pleasant, but strong smell.
 
@LucasKauffman southparkstudios.com/clips/155459/… (it's not recorded by a handheld phone camera off telly screen LOL)
 
@LucasKauffman lol
 
edited an answer on serverfault and it just got +30 rep in 10 seconds, wtf
 
@LucasKauffman Probably a sockpuppet
I need to throw a couple of answers at SF and get my 10k.
 
2:32 PM
and it's one of my shortest answers ever :(
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Q: Silently uninstall bloatware

CZupThe company I work at goes through computers fairly regularly. When we get a new computer, someone has to manually go through and remove all the bloatware that comes with the computer. Right now, I am compiling a database of known bloatware and their silent uninstall commands, but many programs e...

 
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Q: Is accepting old passwords a bad policy?

MiiterThis question is inspired by an experience I had today with online banking, as follows. One year ago I opened an online deposit account. (Without naming the bank, I will say the company is currently a constituent of the Dow -- in other words, not a fly-by-night institution.) Earlier this month, t...

So, a well-designed DB would have a table related to old passwords?
 
@Simon Gmail does. It tells you "You friggin stopped using this password 6 months ago!"
 
@ManishEarth I see. I gotta add this to my list of "how things should be done".
 
It's pretty common, actually, so that they can implement password histories.
 
@Simon Well, looks like they forget it after a while
 
2:36 PM
@ManishEarth So they're deleting the history after x time?
 
@Simon yeah
maybe not
But they certainly stop yelling at you for entering old passwords
 
Yeah, knowing Google I bet they don't delete a single thing about you.
 
It really says "You changed your password X days ago. If this was not you, please [change your password]"
@Simon To be fair, a lot of sites use old passwords as a part of ownership proof during recovery
 
@ManishEarth Oh you're damn right! It's a good way to do it actually.
But you would save the hash so if the user remembers only a little part of his old password or mixes up numbers, it wouldn't help much.
 
Usually knowing old passwords isn't enough, but it does add to the proof
@Simon yeah
 
2:42 PM
@ScottPack that should bring you a bit closer, tell me if they take it back
 
@LucasKauffman heh, np. To be fair, I wasn't fishing, just whining. I've not really been an in a good place for answering lately.
 
@ScottPack me neither, I used to be hooked on SF
but it seems the questions have shifted to domains I know few things or nothing about
 
At a glance it largely seems that way to me, or topics I just don't care about. If I actually care about something, and don't know the answer, I'll go figure it out in order to post.
It just takes time, and whenever I have the time to dedicate to that task I'm just not all that interested in doing so.
 
why would my rxvt font sizes be huge after quitting a fullscreen opengl application?
 
@lynks you sure it's not just everything "larger" i.e. didn't revert back to your desktop resolution from the full screen opengl res?
 
2:49 PM
@ScottPack Haha. Do you agree with that?
 
Haven't read it yet. I just queueueueueueued it up based on the title.
Believe it or not I'm working.
 
@ScottPack Dayum.
Here we go, downloading VS2012. Of course the downloader has a tablet-like interface.
 
@TildalWave no res change. and its only xft fonts in mrxvt :(
 
@lynks Heh funny, no idea really. Obviously some glitch in reading device DPI and not refreshing that value... or anything of the sorts :O
 
@TildalWave Did I tell you that I bought a Bengal? I will get her on the 26th of July :)
 
2:54 PM
@TildalWave it makes my terminals all look like I have eyesight problems :P
 
@Simon you bought a girlfriend?
 
@LucasKauffman More of a rental, really.
 
@Simon nice :) but why the 1 month delay?
 
Belgians, they're always drunk.
@TildalWave sterilization
 
@lynks try hard refresh... well that's how I call it when I switch to another screen res and then back to the proper one
 
2:56 PM
@TildalWave the weirdest thing is both my desktop and the application run in native res. so no res change has occured anyway. but this has happened on two different machines.
 
@Simon I'm not drunk, you are just blurry.
6
 
@Simon gotcha
 
ah it's a cat
 
@LucasKauffman No, the bitch has to be sterilized.
I don't want kids.
 
@Simon Oh, now that you mentioned VS. Any one has any clue where the hell can I find the VS 2008 C/C++ compiler?
I wanna compile some python libraries but apparently I need VS 2008 for it.
 
2:58 PM
@TerryChia Unfortunately no :(
 
@Simon You spent 1k on a cat o.O?
for that money you could have bought a real girlfriend
3
 
@LucasKauffman 700
 
@LucasKauffman For a night?
 

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