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Ami
Ami
8:36 PM
I'm surprised we haven't touched on the documentary hypothesis yet
Richard
Richard
@Ami Yuck. I really don't like the documentary hypothesis.
(no offense)
Ami
Ami
me neither
I don't like it as a theory
but it's highly relevant to questions of hermeneutics
I think
Richard
Richard
The problem I have with it is that it completely challenges the foundations of religion.
@Ami I agree it is.
It just seems to me to be a very atheistic approach that completely invalidates inerrancy and divine inspiration.
Caleb
Caleb
@Ami Not only do I not like it, I haven't been able to think of a way to compose a constructive question about it :)
Ami
Ami
The realities of multiple names for God and apparently repetitive narratives raise important questions for theists as well
Caleb
Caleb
8:40 PM
Actually I could, I just haven't had the energy yet. Maybe tomorrow.
Richard
Richard
@Ami This has always been my philosophy on the whole JEDP issue: I use multiple names for God all the time. One day I'll say "God Almighty" and the next I'll just say "God". The idea that one author would be completely consistent seems foolish to me.
Ami
Ami
@caleb, I thought about posing some famous DH arguments, and asking about evidence for unified authorship...the flood story is a great example of where a unified theory of authorship is much more compelling the DH theory
@Richard, lol
Richard
Richard
One day I'll say Jesus, the next I'll say the Messiah or Christ. JEDP seems to be an arbitrary attempt to undermine the Genesis account.
Ami
Ami
@Richard, Exodus 6:3 is where that gets tricky
biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus%206:3&version=KJ21
but I agree that the DH is very arbitrary
in many ways
Cassuto has a great great book on the topic
amazon.com/Documentary-Hypothesis-Umberto-Cassuto/dp/9657052351
(Cassuto debunks the hypothesis)
(and Cassuto doesn't even believe in the divine authorship of the Bible)
Richard
Richard
@Ami Nice! Yeah, I'll have to keep that in mind next time I'm at the bookstore.
Caleb
Caleb
8:46 PM
@Richard stop hiding from your razor and shuffle over to C.SE mod chat. I want to run one by you.
Richard
Richard
From my razor?
Caleb
Caleb
9:06 PM
@Richard Euphemism for shirking responsibility or being where you are supposed to be dressed fit for the job.
Ami
Ami
9:26 PM
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Q: Exodus 6:3 - what is the significance of God's different names in the OT?

AmichaiExodus 6:3: And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob by the name of God Almighty, but by My name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. (KJV) This is a strange and unique verse in the Bible since it's an explicit recognition of the fact that God has multiple names in the OT. Also...

names-of-god documentary-hypothesis
Ami
Ami
9:41 PM
@Richard, I just found this:
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A: Why is "elohim" translated as "God" and not "gods"?

RichardThe reason this plural noun is translated into other languages as a singular noun is because it's being used with a singular verb. This would be comparable to saying "Ants is here to stay" instead of "Ants are here to stay". It turns this plural word ("ants") into a proper noun. Example with s...

I have an idea that relates to your answer and I'd like to get your thoughts on it...
but nice answer
Ami
Ami
9:55 PM
@Richard, here's what's on my mind: your answer explains how we know that the Bible isn't a blatantly polytheistic work, but the question: "why use the name "Elohim" in the Bible altogether?" still stands. The name "Elohim" is strange because of the singular/plural ambiguity you point out in your answer and because Elohim is also a word used in the Bible to describe false Gods, as in: "You should have no other Gods" in the Ten Commandments.
I have some thoughts on this...

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