Discussion between Dhamma Dhatu and Yeshe Tenley

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A: Did the Buddha ever say that anything follows from a contradiction?

Question: Did the Buddha ever say that anything follows from a contradiction? Answer: The Buddha did say that hell follows from a contradiction of the Dhamma Law. About the English term 'follows from', in Pali, there is the term 'upapajjati' ['upapanna'; past participle], often translated as 'is ...

Yeshe Tenley

This is not an answer. It isn't even an attempt to answer the question. What it is an attempt by you to hijack a question so you can once again insert your obsession and deep aversion to rebirth. Which this question has nothing to do with. This is against the site rules as you've been told many times. You again and again flout this sites rules which you know very well. Just stop.

Dhamma Dhatu

I thought you were Mahayana. Don't Mahayana have gratitude towards Holy Gurus?

Yeshe Tenley

This question has nothing to do with Mahayana and it has nothing to do with rebirth: your twin obsessions and aversions. You are being rude, condescending, and once again violating this sites rules. Enough.

Dhamma Dhatu

Please kindly stop spamming my answers. Thank you. Please be appreciative.

Yeshe Tenley

Your answer has nothing to do with the topic and is only being used to flagrantly inject your own aversion for a topic that has nothing to do here. If you are fooling anyone, it is yourself. If this is the behavior that results from someone who trains with your understanding it is not a good testament for your understanding. You are doing a disservice to your understanding by behaving like this. Again, stop with the harassment and desist from giving non-answers intended only to aid your aversions and stroke your own prejudice and biases.

Dhamma Dhatu

02:50

My answer is related to how I read the question. If you believe my answer misconstrues the question then i suggest you adhere to posting questions about Buddhism rather than posting questions about Western philosophy. I regard my answer to be excellent & on point. You can accept my answer or leave it.

Yeshe Tenley

Again, you are only fooling yourself. If you don't understand the question and/or think it should be closed then delete your answer, apologize for your rude behavior and desist. You are under no obligation to write off-topic diatribes against rebirth on every question on this site nor every question asked by specific users. You've been told now many times in many ways that this has nothing to do with rebirth. It is right there in the tags 'not-about-rebirth' and persist anyway, because your intent is to harass and cause conflict. Enough.

Dhamma Dhatu

Thanks for pointing this sutta out, but I don’t think it fits the case. The Buddha did not conclude that they would do anything he concluded “there is no bad deed they would not do” and just in general it isn’t the kind of logical falsity I’m after but rather it’s about feeling ashamed or not ashamed. I’ll try and think of a good fictional example for the kind of argument I’m looking for…

Yeshe Tenley

This behavior is the exact same type of behavior that has resulted in your timeout last time. You've obviously learned nothing. What is it with you trying to get banned again and again from Buddhist communities on the internet? Have you ever stopped to think that there might be a reason that your behavior continues to cause conflict and result in your being banned again and again?

Dhamma Dhatu

Thanks for pointing this sutta out, but I don’t think it fits the case. The Buddha did not conclude that they would do anything he concluded “there is no bad deed they would not do” and just in general it isn’t the kind of logical falsity I’m after but rather it’s about feeling ashamed or not ashamed. I’ll try and think of a good fictional example for the kind of argument I’m looking for…

Yeshe Tenley

What is the purpose of bring up comments I make on other websites that you've been banned from?

Dhamma Dhatu

02:50

These same non-Buddhist questions are on Sutta Central. It appears the questioner objects to every answer given there at Sutta Central.

Yeshe Tenley

That has nothing at all to do with your behavior here. Again desist or is it your goal to get permanently banned from this website as well?

Dhamma Dhatu

Who cares about you say.

Your questions here appear to be just trolling.

Do you believe in Buddhism?

Are you not aware of the consequences of such karma?

Yeshe Tenley

Why do you think you were banned and received a timeout before?

Dhamma Dhatu

It does not matter if I get banned from this forum because that kamma falls upon you and the moderator, who already is reaping the results of their past kamma.

Yeshe Tenley

Did you learn anything at all from the consequences of your past actions?

Dhamma Dhatu

02:53

The moderator here appears to be suffering from alcoholism. This is due to his past kamma

The website means nothing. I only provide service here.

Yeshe Tenley

So you have learnt nothing at all.

Dhamma Dhatu

Don't you understand anything about Dhamma.

It is you that has not learned anything.

unjust actions lead to hell.

You do not seem to believe in hell

Most moderators on all sites are headed for a very bad place.

That is the Dhamma Law

Dhamma Dhatu is free

If you wish to push moderators towards more alcoholism that is your volition

THE END, YOUR QUESTIONS LATELY ARE NOT RELATED TO BUDDHISM

NEITHER IS YOUR INTENTION TO BAN PEOPLE

THE BUDDHA TAUGHT ABOUT THREE RIGHT INTENTIONS

PLEASE REFLECT ON YOUR OWN BEHAVIOUR

PLEASE STOP HARRASSING THE MODERATORS HERE

Yeshe Tenley

This has nothing to do with me. You have caused myriad conflicts again and again through your own behavior with myriad different users on myriad different sites. This behavior has been explained to you as causing conflicts, how it causes conflicts, why it is rude and abusive again and again by myriad different people.

Rather than reflect on why it is that myriad different people in myriad different situations and have a shred of doubt that perhaps your behavior is at fault - you've turned back again and again to your own ego which boasts to you of how far away above and beyond you are. You…

ChrisW

16:24

@DhammaDhatu The moderator here appears to be suffering from alcoholism. I don't think so.

I agree the answer was off-topic i.e. didn't answer the question. I think I understand the question, because the scenario happens in Mathematics too, for example: "Zero times one equals zero times two; divide both sides by zero, then you get one equals two." It's a question about whether any of the Buddha's statements relied on this particular type of logic. Because it's a reference-request question I guess the question is on-topic, evn if no-one is able to (or if no-one cares to) answer it.

@YesheTenley I suspect the answer to the question is "no" -- I don't currently have the impression that the Buddha relied on logic in that way -- but I won't answer because I don't know how to "prove a negative", eh?

Yeshe Tenley

18:25

Not looking to prove a negative. I'm just trying to see if I or others can prove a positive: an unambiguous case where the Buddha used the principle of explosion in a logical argument.

ChrisW

20:44

@YesheTenley I guess my answer is unsatifactory -- it's an instance or example of saying that an explosion would happen -- perhaps becaise it's unmoderated (i.e. by "shame" according to the sutta) it becomes supercritical -- but isn't "using the principle of explosion in a logical argument".

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