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@jrista Natural Philosophy Alliance sounds like a dangerous group of people

@rfusca I SUMMON THEE!

@ElendilTheTall yes? KABOOM - 'WHO DARES SUMMON THE GREAT AND POWERFUL RFUSCA?

woot, pentagrams never fail

lol

is making a stromboli as simple as rolling out pizza dough, whacking in the toppings, rolling it up and baking it?

@ElendilTheTall for the most part, yup

do individual ones 'work'?

poke a few holes down through the layers so you don't get pockets

yup

bake for about 20 minutes in a very hot oven?

i think I usually do like 190C for stromboli for like 20 min

but still on a stone or such

sure

do you follow reinhart's method and leave the sauce out for dipping?

i've done it both ways, but I think I most enjoy a tiny bit inside and some for dipping

ah, that's a good idea

keep it moist

this is why I go to trouble of summoning you

sacrificing the goats, waiting for planetary alignment etc

ya, i'm an SOB to get ahold of ;)

how's it all going?

eh, ok - there's a possibility I could move to atlanta though

with work?

@ElendilTheTall yup

but for an extra 25-35k a year

what are your reservations? leaving family or your photography business?

@ElendilTheTall mostly family. I've grown up here - 27 years, almost my whole life. And my parents are like 2 miles away. The business is still new enough, that I can transplant it - I'll definitely lose some ground but nothing a little bit of work can't handle.

hmmm

it's a toughy

but that's a lot of extra money

for sure

enough to afford flights back etc

personally I'd go for it

ya

you'll regret the things you don't do more than the things you do, as Mark Twain kind-of said

well, cost of living would increase some

so i might lose 500 dollars a month just to increased cost

peanuts!

lol

atlanta is a nice city, I seem to recall reading

its not bad

there'll be a lower % of rednecks at least :D

other than where I live now, its the only other place i've lived in my adult life by chance - I went to school there for a bit

ah right

well, that's a plus

any outstanding warrants notwithstanding ;)

well, I guess I better banish you to the fiery depths whence you came. I have tapped your arcane knowledge and now must go.

BEGONE!

<is this thing on?>

:)

@HåkonKOlafsen Why would you call them "dangerous"??? They are a group of intelligent minds not bound by a governmental or educational institution requiring them to conform or be banned. Just because a mainstream "scientist" says something is fact doesn't necessarily make it so. There are FAR simpler interpretations of data that answer questions about quantum mechanics than what the "standard model" proposes. Simple explanations that actually achieve a unified field theory without excessive complexity

Calling a group of scientists who are trying to propose a simpler scientific model that explains our reality "dangerous" is far more dangerous in and of itself. People have freedom of speech and the freedom to think. Banning such freedoms is the end of fredom.

@jrista i'm assuming you heard about higgs?

yup

Ironic that it was in July 4th

Of course, as always, "further investigation is necessary to determine that it is indeed actually really truly the higgs boson"

They said that last time they "discovered" previous essential particles as well. Conveniently, many of them cannot actually be observed.

The thing that annoys me about the standard model is EVERYTHING is a particle.

Every force is also a particle.

Everything has wave/particle duality.

Its a very nice, neat, if unbelievably complex mathematical model.

But there are simpler alternative explanations that don't require all that complexity.

@rfusca finally got around to creating 500px account, here's some of my work - 500px.com/alenabdula

@Alen awesome

thanks, i'll check it out

just in case anyone else is interested... there's a 5d giveaway from borrowlenses going on... bit.ly/M4QnuJ nothing to see here..move along

@chills42 shush!

:P

lol

@chills42 ;)

lol nice

i take it you've seen it already?

@chills42 for sure

although... you probably want the D800? Aren't you a nikon guy?

@chills42 indeed i am

in other news... I'm hoping to finalize the sale of my XSi (450D) in about an hour...

@chills42 awesome - what are you shooting with ?

I'm just moving to a t4i

@chills42 ic - any particular reason?

wanted the video and 100-128400 ISO

ic

instead of a grainy 1600 max

ugh

i just got a D7000 recently

nice...

yup

1600 max feels so low these days eh

I was debating getting a 60D, but I decided to just stick with better lenses for the near term

what lenses you have?

EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 is my primary

good stuff

primarily shooting what?

and I'm planning on a 70-200 to replace my tele

family/ portraits for friends

gotcha

i just didn't like the 70-200

little bit of landscape stuff

yeah?

its like walking around with an elephant strapped to your chest

fair enough

ya

it probably comes from shooting with mostly primes though

@chills42 i found an 85mm better for my purposes

yeah, I've got a 50, I'm watching prices for a 35 and 85 used...

@chills42 yup, i loved my 50

welp... I have no DSLR for the next few days... now to wait patiently for the new one to arrive

but $415 in my pocket is nice :)

@chills42 nice!

@chills you're braver than I. I still haven't sold my D3100

well... it was part of the deal with my wife :)

@chills42 ah lol

ic

@chills gotta appease her ;)

yeah :) Just convincing me to do what I probably should be doing anyway

@chills42 lol indeed. I started doing some paid stuff, so i've been using the old one as a backup

yeah, I'd probably do the same, for now I'm too busy with work and a masters degree to add in any paid stuff, so it's just a hobby/stress relief kinda thing

@chills42 definitely

what you getting your masters in?

Information Security and Assurance

^^ ethical hacking and disaster recovery

@chills42 nice

I'm enjoying it

whats your job currently?

Software engineering

surprise surprise

yeah... that's pretty common 'round these parts

haha

ya, just a bit

we all started with stackoverflow...

indeed

i actually started waay back with jeff's blog

nice, not sure which I found first... may have been through joel's blog...

but I don't really remember

yup

@chills you're from IN?

yep

i was born in IN

most of my extended family is still there

yeah? I grew up in south bend, but I'm near indy now

nice

i was born in Richmond

looks like I might be moving to Atlanta soon though

I saw that

new job or transfer?

different position in the same company

but considerably more money

more money is good

like between 25k-35k more

that would make it hard to pass up

indeed

but its rough, i've lived here 27 years

yeah, I wouldn't really want to make that move... hard to leave what you know

@chills42 yup

but we're financially strapped, this came at a really good time for us money-wise

@rfusca Figure out how to cover the livingsocial coupons yet?

@AndyLevesque no

@rfusca do you know of any local photographers with similar style?

nope

when do they expire?

Oct 2

ah

and i don't expect many mor eople to cash in after the next couple of weeks

it was priced as a impluse buy

ah gotcha

Going to refund those after you move?

don't know

more of a 'wait and see' approach right now

i don't know if we're moving next week or next year at this point

Might want to check your options. There are laws in MN now that require honoring the purchase price of a coupon.

Oh gotcha. When do you fly to ATL?

@AndyLevesque ya

@AndyLevesque sometime real soon but not set in stone yet

@rfusca Either way, good luck. It's a big opportunity.

@AndyLevesque thanks