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6:27 PM
@IvenBach I thought this was what you meant by PBAP
 
Peanut Butter and Pickle.
 
let me guess. fried.
 
I'm trying to decide whether or not that would be a good idea fried or un-fried.
 
I had fried pickles in Seattle last year. #OnlyInUSA
 
Battered fried pickles are one of my favorite bar foods.
Dipped in mustard.
 
6:33 PM
@MathieuGuindon glad I'm good for something! ;)
 
@FreeMan We're thinking of suggesting to your boss that you need more VBA work.
 
@Comintern talk to the Mythbusters - they seemed to have a pretty good handle on that.
 
@MathieuGuindon It's a Scottish dish :P
 
uh-huh. and Jack Daniels' is Whisky
 
@MathieuGuindon Unfortunately that's pretty benign.
 
6:38 PM
^
 
If you want something totally nuts --- fried donuts cheeseburger on a stick.
 
@Comintern yeah.... no.
 
@MathieuGuindon Deep-fat-frying things is totally Scottish.
They even deep-fat-fry their Twinkies. (Well, in some places.)
 
uh, they do pickles?
When I think scottish food, I think haggi and shepherd's pie.
 
They do fried butter at state fairs around here.
 
6:39 PM
Ok, that's just wrong, man.
 
@Comintern #barf
 
(and HTW you fry a butter?!?)
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@Comintern types faster than I do
 
ffs murica
 
@Hosch250 The only thing I know about twinkies is that Tallahassee is completely mad about getting some
 
6:39 PM
@this And how?
 
@this batter a stick of butter and drop it in the oil. I don't know why, but that's the how.
 
I can never decide whether that's more or less repulsive than a macaroni and cheese pizza.
 
WTF. How does it not melt?
 
magic
 
I meant to said How but obviously I was too repulsed to think straight.
 
6:40 PM
@Hosch250 it's not that deep -fried
 
and cholesterol. I really think it's the cholesterol.
 
LOL.
 
Oh, none of the food here is real, so it doesn't have to obey the normal laws of physics.
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That totally explains velvetta.
 
@Comintern I'm going to build a wall around my house to keep that food out.
 
6:41 PM
@Comintern you mean, it's mostly corn
 
@Hosch250 Make Kraft pay for it.
 
frankly, it's probably not actual butter, but margarine, which is probably altered to have a higher melting point. adjusts tin-foil hat
 
@Comintern Good idea.
 
@Vogel612 that @SwiftOnSecurity thread huh :)
 
@Vogel612 You can thank those terrorists who were far more scared of a wimpy little communist like Fidel for that.
WE WILL NOT EAT COMMUNIST SUGAR!!!
 
6:42 PM
LOL
 
They may have took the Better dead than red slogan a bit too literally, albeit in a slow-acting manner.
 
@MathieuGuindon only one? They seem to be raving about that regularly
 
@Vogel612 Good idea. I'm going to see if the TLD .corn is available.
 
There is only one corn - unicorn.
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groan
 
6:44 PM
now that hurts
 
@Comintern OK, even better idea.
I'll host my sites at *.uni.corn.
 
@Comintern you should submit that to a pun groaning contest.
 
lol
 
If only I could work a .gov or .org in there too.
 
WTH would you want a uni.gov?
 
6:45 PM
damn, that reminds me, GoDaddy needs to die like real soon
 
@this That's where we build the one-world government.
 
@this FOR COMMUNIST UNIVERSITIES DUH
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edu.uni.corn.gov.org.co.uk
 
lol didn't you and hosch have a date to move to azure?
 
uh, no thanks....
 
6:45 PM
@Vogel612 It kind of fell apart.
It's really easy, though. The only thing I'm not sure about is setting the domain name up.
I just use the *.azurewebsites.net domain.
 
@this Indianapolis has a uni.gov. Started in the mid 70s when the Indianapolis city council merged with the Marion County government. The city occupies the entire county (and very, very little outside the county), so having two governing bodies made no sense.
 
custom domain may require a higher level of plan
 
Other than that, it's super easy.
 
Don't you just need to re-register the DNS entries?
 
@Comintern Pretty much, and tie it to the Azure site.
 
6:47 PM
yes. and then run some powershell wizardry against a remote api or something
 
i think you need at least a basic plan to get the custom domain and SSL
but azure change their plans so fast i have no idea what's what anymore
 
@this SSL is free.
 
for the default domain, yes
for custom, no
 
I would hope so. They should charge for non-http.
 
6:48 PM
Oh.
That will pretty much walk you through it.
 
meh. I think I can configure the GD registration to redirect to a url. or is that phony?
or, I set up a VM in my garage and host the website there
 
If GD is the just domain registrar, it shouldn't really matter.
 
The GD registration will expire eventually.
 
to be clear, you can just LE the website
you just need to own the custom domain, I think
 
6:50 PM
and the service plan allows for it, too
Let's Encrypt
 
aye
whatever Chrome needs https for a static website for
 
so if you are down with a basic (?) plan, where you can configure the custom domain, then it should be fine.
 
#LetsMakeThisComplicatedForFun
 
well, Google's all LET'S HTTPS ALL THE THINGS
 
makes me miss Geocities
 
6:51 PM
which IMO is a good move in general. No sense in broadcasting what you're doing
 
@this You still do anyway.
 
oooh, but GD redirecting would then make all AZ traffic look like it's coming from wherever the GD servers are, no?
aka screw up all the traffic stats
 
They still know where the packets are coming from and going.
 
FWIW, I'm completely on board with Google on the HTTPS all the things push.
 
uh - if you are using GD as the registrar, yeah
 
6:53 PM
@Comintern FWIW me too. I just suck at web.
 
@Hosch250 to the whole public? I don't think so. The owner of website will know I've been there.
 
@this Yeah, to the whole public.
They have to know where to send the packet.
 
Of course the owner can decide to go all "HEY THIS LIKES UNICORNS!" and sell the data.
 
They've got the IP addresses non-encrypted in there.
 
but packet's encrypted?
 
6:54 PM
The content is, but they still know which site(s) you've been on.
 
so they know I've been to uni.corn and....
 
The site of a registrar won't mess with the stats - only if you've set up a http redirect.
 
IIRC that's how rubberduck-vba.com redirects to rubberduckvba.com
(I own both domains)
 
So rubberduck-vba actually serves a page?
 
no, it http-redirects to rubberduckvba
 
6:56 PM
OK, so it issues like a http-302 or similar.
Are you using GA?
 
General Attorney?
Great Admin?
 
FWIW it faceplants on https. I don't know how the redirect is setup but you may want to ensure that http redirects to https automatically once you have the LE set up
 
Google Analytics.
 
oh
never figured that out
 
@Comintern I thought they called it telescreen.
 
6:58 PM
lol
Big Google is watching you...
 
Oh phew! I feel safer already!
 
That's good, I was worried you might be committing some thought crime there.
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7:12 PM
Talking about which...
I have a nice idea.
I hack the major webservers.
Then I change or create all the robot.txt to say that Google can't index the site.
Then Google collapses.
Then I escape the country.
Or go off the grid, or something.
 
@Comintern and in the end they all learned to love Big Brother.
 
but that presumes Google is obeying the robots.txt, doesn't it?
 
@this Yeah, which I know they don't already.
I mean, they were putting malware directly into the routers...
 
I'm thinking if they were, they'd stop as soon as they realized what was happening.
 
^
 
7:15 PM
LOL.
The next thing to do is to make a new fad, like the ice bucket challenge. A sue-Google-for-privacy challenge.
Basically, a legal DDoS.
So they automatically lose cases for not showing up in court.
 
Here's the thing, though - didn't we all consent to sell our privacy in exchange for using Google's service for free?
 
No.
 
I mean, it's not just Google that does that - Facebook and Twitter does that, too.
 
I didn't--and I don't use Google.
I don't use FB either, and Twitter is just for business--they can have what I put up there.
 
hmm. I wonder how many people really not use Google and do not consent to it.
 
7:18 PM
I use Bing--and Bing is better at 99% of my searches anyway.
 
I've seen plenty of google-hating but I'd wager that 90%+ of those haters are using Google in some forms.
 
I don't use G Docs or G Mail.
I use Outlook and Office. If a company is going to have my data, I might as well keep it to that company.
 
@this The same people who Tweet their Facebook post about caring about their privacy from their Android phone so that it automatically cross-posts to Instagram?
 
Exactly.
That's why I'm disinclined to take those statements seriously.
 
Oh crap. I completely forgot that I need to re-up my R# license for VS 2017.
 
7:26 PM
@Hosch250 You're assuming that MS is any less interested in your data than Google is?
 
@FreeMan Seeing as they were one of the first to set their browser to use do-not-track by default, somewhat, yes.
But more importantly, they already have my data since I use Windows.
They already have everything--other people don't need it too.
 
and google and/or apple already have all of your data from your phone now anyway
 
@KySoto Windows Phone FTW.
 
@Hosch250 that is an almost reasonably valid point.
:)
 
@Hosch250 yeah.... but for how long?
last i heard they stopped dev on windows phones
 
7:28 PM
You know that Google won a court ruling that they don't have to follow do-not-track rules because MS had do-not-track on by default?
So, MS turned it off so they had to comply (although they won't anyway...).
 
really? I'd love to see a reference for that one...
 
@KySoto Yeah :(
 
then you have facebook
 
not that I'm doubting you, I'd just be slightly interested in reading it
 
even if you dont use facebook, you are still tracked via your family members
 
7:30 PM
^
 
@KySoto BUT FACEBOOK'S GOING TO SHARE ALL YOUR INFORMATION STARTING FEB 1 IF YOU DON'T POST THIS LEGAL NOTICE!!!!
 
lol
then you have google whos probably crawling any public facebook pages anyway
 
@KySoto No I don't.
 
That's one biggest problem about any internet services; you can't not be not on it; you'd have to get everyone to exclude you, etc.
 
"online privacy" is an oxymoron of "military intelligence" proportions.
 
7:30 PM
^
 
and potentially have access to your FB information via phone
@Hosch250 i didnt mean you have it, i meant take facebook for instance, even if you dont use it... etc
 
Want online privacy? Disconnect from internet, move to a remote mountain, and live off grid.
 
@KySoto They don't share anything about me.
 
not a single picture where you are in it?
 
They created a sarcastic fan page once, but took it down later.
 
7:31 PM
@this winner, winner, chicken dinner, Ted Bundy
 
@KySoto Yeah, on linked in.
Nothing personal.
 
last i heard, facebook actually creates phantom pages for people who arent on facebook
 
Still... #GoodLuck
I bet you have been photobombed on a few.
 
Yeah, I know it's a losing fight.
 
that are family members of people who share a crapton of info
 
7:32 PM
@this My family isn't into pictures much.
 
oh, and EVEN IF you live off grid in hte mountains...
 
Except for bird pictures.
 
You're lucky.
 
you got them satellites
google maps might pick you up at some point
 
Can they see clearly enough to do a facial recognition?
 
7:33 PM
But I'm going to hold out on principle.
 
maybe not yet...
 
@this Facial recognition is a joke.
 
No, i was referring to do it from a satelite. I think right now it's hard to do that.
(if not impossible)
 
yeah, but like i said, how much longer is it going to be that way?
 
but yeah, probably give them enough time and they'll work it out
 
7:34 PM
I read a paper once that claimed that gait recognition was more reliable that face recognition.
 
yeah.
 
@Comintern Now that, yeah.
 
uh... interesting.
 
I have a very distinctive gait--I already know that much.
 
Sit very still.
 
7:34 PM
take some of elon musks' low orbit interweb satellites and throw a camera on them
 
But then, I've got like 5 of them ;)
 
and... yep
 
Maybe I should start walking erratically. Just like in Dune.
 
A long loose walk. A very tight, fast walk, where my feet barely cross each other, but I take close to 10 steps per second, and everything in between.
 
@this Probably easier than walking erratically like John Cleese.
 
7:36 PM
I walk with my ankles, my legs, and my hips and pelvis, depending on how open the area is and how long I'll be going.
 
oh yeah, then if they get the drone based internet in play... they could potentially have more things that could see you
since one of the points of it is to go off into no internet areas like the one where you would be off grid
 
Then you can walk in a crouch like a SEAL, or on your toes like a dancer. If you want to screw with them, you can.
 
@KySoto That's why you get a good rifle. Or maybe even an anti-aircraft gun.
 
Jetpacks. With rockets.
 
yeah, but then they know where you are since they likely can triangulate from where the drones drop out at
 
7:38 PM
Sir, I claim sovereignty of this airspace above my property. Any droids or jet-packing humans will be shot. The survivors will be shot again
 
and since AA guns are probably not legal...
 
Does that extend indefinitely? If so, you might need some ASATs too.
 
youd have police and or military...
 
@this LOL, my horseback riding teacher has that sign.
> Trespassers will be shot. Survivors will be shot again.
 
I think the principle is that it's limited to some distance above - beyond that, it's basically like sea, unclaimed.
 
7:39 PM
@this Do not draw the attention of Big Brother Shai-Hulud.
 
i can't remember what the line was, though. I want to say a mile high but I really don't know.
 
this whole devils advocate debate has been fun guys
:)
 
7:50 PM
@Comintern Ministry of Funny Walks was my first thought...
@this shotgun. 12 gauge. That should do the trick.
@this FAA requires that pilots maintain at least 500' above an inhabited area with exceptions for take-off/landing. Beyond that, you don't have much say in what happens above your property. Pretty sure most any "spy camera" could get a pretty good image of your face (or anything else) from 500'.
whole differn't set o' regulations for UAVs though.
 
Are fully autonomous aircraft legal? Someone told me once that they fell under a blanket definition of "guided missile" in some old law or regulation.
For private use that is.
 
gee, I don't know why your droids keep falling to the ground. I have no idea why you can't find them again. I guess it hit a bird? And then a bear ran off with it?
Maybe try buying a higher quality drone? Obviously it's defective if it keeps falling to ground like that.
 
> 0 questions
:(
 
proposes tag synonym
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yes, all the information is complete but only shows up in A1. — Z san 5 mins ago
but you're explicity only ever writing to column A, without incrementing the row counter
 
:facepalm:
 
8:30 PM
Ho ho, and a bottle of rum.
 
Mama
 
:) just a brief hello and found an interesting technical .net article about how walking a stack trace. I think @Comintern might be interested in this as tells how to know frames mattwarren.org/2019/01/21/Stackwalking-in-the-.NET-Runtime
Also suggests how c# could access managed stuff
 
I'll have to give that a look. I've always been curious if I could access data in prior stack frames at run-time in a non-debug build.
 
FWIW, we do that already somewhere.
 
We walk backwards up the stack?
 
8:34 PM
No worries.
 
Yes I wrote the code
 
I'll take that as authoritative then.
Was that for the COM safe debugging code?
 
yeah
I was trying to remember where I used it. Took me a bit too long. :D
 
I want that for the VBA stack. :-D
 
Get vbWatchDog.
 
8:37 PM
I want that for the a VBA stack
 
There's a call stack. Ctrl + L. </smartaleck>
 
Although I have a feeling that responding to debug events would land RD in the stack.
I'd be cool with that too.
 
Yeah, that's why I have the logic to skip a # of frames
 
The article is extensive covering a range of things involved. I guess could provide support for ideas to customise a car into a monster truck by way of analogy
 
otherwise, I get the frames for that com safe's debug methods.
 
8:41 PM
"Melkor, you're derivative and even if you think you're being creative, you're just playing my tune" Dayum. That's enough to make anyone upset! — Ruadhan2300 yesterday
 
yeah, this is is more comprehensive; I was basically cowboying it up when I wrote the code.
 
8:54 PM
[rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck] build for commit 1e23c302 on unknown branch: AppVeyor build succeeded
 
wow... I just read the snailmail invoice I received from my energy provider
the new contract I'm on is 10ct/KWh cheaper.
 
That's a good thing?
 
that's basically slashing the cost for electricity at night in half
 
It might be more expensive during the day?
 
it's not, though :)
 
8:58 PM
Nice.
Over here, there are some plans here where it gets more expensive as demand goes up.
So, it's expensive during the day, but gets quite cheap at night.
 
ok nvm. it's even more ridiculous.
I'm getting 8ct/KWh off during the day and 18 during the night
 
Nice.
What changed?
Is it just a unilateral price drop, or did you qualify for a lower rate since you don't use it much?
Or something else entirely?
 
I had my meter recategorized into a class for people using electric heating
 
@MathieuGuindon wow...
 
Nice.
 
9:03 PM
basically I'm getting rid of their excess electricity at night and the price is significantly better because of that
 
That's actually a thing. It's difficult to re-establish capacity after a sharp load drop-off.
In the past, sodium lighting would suck up a lot of the excess load capacity at night, but municipalities have been moving to more efficient outdoor lighting.
 
Also probably because he is paying them something at night, instead of paying the gas company.
Or something.
 
@MathieuGuindon yikes
 
(Unless they are the same company.)
 
When I lived in northern IA, there was a single municipal utility that ran everything (gas, electric, cable, water, sewer, and garbage).
It rocked. One bill each month for everything, one customer service line, etc.
 
9:14 PM
@Comintern Massive wait times :P
We have one company for utilities (electricity/gas), and one for water/sewer/recycling (city).
We still have freedom to choose our own garbage man. My mom wants the city to hire the global company in our area, but I like the little guys still.
Cable is usually handled by the internet providers, I think, here.
 
We have the "freedom" to chose garbage providers here too, but in practice about 99% of the city is only served by one company.
 
Ours is a mix still.
So we get like 3 residential companies and 2 commercial companies driving on our street each week.
 
Oh, there are about 10 providers - they all have their own "areas of operation". It's begging for an anti-trust lawsuit.
 
1 commercial company on the street (nursing home), 3 residential companies all on our block.
Then a commercial truck or few using us as a crossroad.
And maybe a residential one going to other areas; not sure.
The main ones all have clients on our block, though. Waste Management, Maroney's and Gene's.
 
I personally think that should be municipal instead of private - trash collection has pretty substantial public health implications.
It's like sewer, but above-ground.
 
9:19 PM
Agree, except that means the global corp gets all the business.
 
Meh, around here the city and county get all the revenue anyway from landfill fees.
It's just a matter of who is doing the hauling.
 
Out here there's a plant to burn it in one of the cities.
It all goes down there because a naseating smell and oily brown clouds of smoke are green.
 
I think the only incineration that's done around here is for hazardous materials.
 
@Comintern it’s amazing how fast you can unload a truck when you’re motivated to get out of those places. Aayer of carpet underneath, throw truck into reverse, slam on brakes and voila truck bed emptied.
 
@IvenBach Pickup?
 
9:25 PM
@IvenBach We have a transfer station. It's pretty clean too. The city sorts out recyclables and other trash streams like concrete, dirt, etc., then they truck it to the actual landfill.
You back up to a concrete trench with a conveyor type thing at the bottom and dump onto that. It then gradually gets pulled to the left toward the sorting stuff and ultimately into a dump-truck. It's a much better experience than it used to be.
It's sort of like the Los Angeles River, but intended for trash dumping.
 
Haha.
@Hosch250 yep. When I was a laborer helping lay tile we’d have to dispose of the old rubbish.
I’m stuck at Chuck E Cheeses right now.... it’s not as “fun” as my childhood memories made me believe.
They’d be a lot more profitable if they sold alcohol for the parents.
 
But, but... the children!
 
9:43 PM
They’re not the ones drinking, s’ok.
 
and who drives them home?
 
The sober parent. Duh :p
I should keep the snark down. Just a tad bored.
 
I'm sure your little one is having more fun than you, though.
oh, do they still do that ball pit thing?
 
9:59 PM
LOL, prepare for a virus or few in the house after that.
 
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