So I hope I'll be able to finally help with something other than just a language...
But when I tried to build the project, this came up
So it's still not compatible with VS2019?
I've got Rubberduck.Parsing as a Startup Project
Holly HELL this is so much complicated (rubberduck visual studio project) then the beginner course :D So much files, projects, and non-functioning forms.... :D whyyy......
@this i'm just finishing the first section of your article (following along in Excel)... having not used UDTs before, I feel I've already learned quite a bit. The list of things that are expected about what we know/don't know hit very, very close to home, like I was partial inspiration lol
the follow-along code i've done thusfar is basically what you've done, but hopefully aligned partly with what Mat has been pushing me towards (e.g., not having a list of declarations, etc.):
Option Explicit
Public Type Person
FirstName As String
LastName As String
BirthDate As String
End Type
'### Removed to move onto a more advanced lesson
'Public Sub test()
' Dim p1 As Person
' p1.FirstName = "John"
' p1.LastName = "Smith"
' p1.BirthDate = #1/1/1970#
' Dim p2 As Person
' p2.FirstName = "Jane"
' p2.LastName = "Doe"
' p2.BirthDate = #1/1/1970#
' Debug.Print VarPtr(p1), VarPtr(p2)
'End Sub
Public Function Create(FirstName As String, LastName As String, BirthDate As String) As Person
taking a quick mental breather before moving to the next section... i only had to stop to look up 2 things: the term "codebase" to ensure i knew the intention, and partly looking at the article from my alma mater, RIT
Tom Golisano sank a lot of money into that CS building and it really shows
The second section about creating the class is definitely a bit more complex... i can follow the example, but not following "why", which i guess goes back to understanding let/get more strongly
let allows read/write, get allows read-only? am i doing that correctly?
@Cyril I can't speak for @this but I'm assuming feedback like this helps ensure the articles achieve the goals he had in mind when reading them. If something isn't clear to a newcomer he can improve.
going to go to bed; just starting the interfaces section, and honestly... that initial description makes more sense than the previous section (in just the first few paragrphs). "i want a mask to keep people out... okay, here's some things that no one can touch" i feel like that might be because i've asked a bit about it in here and that just makes sense... but getting to taht `Implements`part is something i need to have a fresh brain to digest. that bit has plagued me, even in reading Mat's Class-post
Based on this question
Thought it was a nice puzzle
Main idea: How to randomly assign shifts to employees based on these restrictions:
As per the O.P.:
Randomly write to cells "1" or "0"
Employees' total shifts in a month can't be more than 7 and less than 4
According to a few crite...
the #1 thing I have learned while working on these class modules is that i cannot spell the word "property"
for figure 4-1, we were supposed to name the class "IPerson", correct? i don't think that's anywhere in the text
been bugging me since it keeps changing... #1970-01-01# keeps swapping to #1/1/1970# and my system setting reflect yyyymmdd as my date. is there a way to make vba recognize the default date as ISO8601 compliant?
i can google... sorry, figured i'm just walkign through this and that keeps catching my attention
I got through figure 4-4 and that section, trying to make heads and tails. I understand that the IPerson member does not include a procedure for FillData, so I'm getting the error... hoping the next section explains how i'm using IPerson, because the p.FillDatausing the class, not the interface, confuses me as it doesn't "look" like i'm using the interface at all... which I think relates to Implements, where I am still trying to understand that term
Just now finished through the article... and "However, as you saw, sometimes that is simply not possible using a UDT which need public methods to provide “API” around it" in the Conclusion helped brush up a question i had earlier, where I had never used a UDT before (only UDFs)
all in all, i learned quite a bit and gained more experience in differentiating a concrete class versus interface class, even if it was just following examples. next step for me is to fully-reread the article from start to finish to see what i've retained and what is giving issues
but will do that later on ... kids are going crazy and i don't want them watching daniel tiger all morning
@Cyril That's a good catch. I'll make it explicit that I intended for you to make a new class module and call it IPerson
@Cyril VBIDE wants to be very US-centric so it'll always "prettify" the date literals into US format. I always write my dates the ISO way. I can appreciate that it might be distracting, though.
@Cyril I left a feedback because the article doesn't make it clear that interface in VBA is simply just a class module with stubs but no code. It gives the impression that the interface is actually a different object type in VBA. It's not, though it should have been.
@Cyril Thanks for that. There is a discussion about that in the last paragraph in the section but it sounds like I need to at least alert to the fact before introducing figure 4-3 & 4-4. Will revise.
I had missed because I already got another email about new comment from the same commentor
BTW, something weird. I apparently can't do anything in the .... I don't know what to call it .... blue admin area. It keeps saying I don't have permissions.
But, if i go to the WP admin, I can do the same thing that the blue admin area say I didn't.
hm, might have been the role thing. wasn't sure which one you'd want to take up (or what the difference is between "author" and "collaborator") ...if you want admin I'm happy to give it to you :)
Nah, it works fine for what I need; and don't mind going to WP admin (it's more familiar to me anyway - I have no idea what that blue admin thingy is all about. Must be a WP.com thing).
Just wanted to mention that because it does seem weird that one admin site would say I don't have permission but other admin site says I can do. Go figure!
(The mistake is probably in the fact that they thought it a good idea to have 2 admin pages, lol)
> Administrator (slug: ‘administrator’) – somebody who has access to all the administration features within a single site. Editor (slug: ‘editor’) – somebody who can publish and manage posts including the posts of other users. Author (slug: ‘author’) – somebody who can publish and manage their own posts. Contributor (slug: ‘contributor’) – somebody who can write and manage their own posts but cannot publish them. Subscriber (slug: ‘subscriber’) – somebody who can only manage their profile.
if I read this correctly, "editor" means you'd get to see all my unpublished drafts
I'm trying to optimize my filter Arrays algorithm (1-Is this an algorithm?) so I've thought to use the sorted column (when available).
The original function loop through all items in the array, make comparison in various columns and build the resulting array.
In this new version, I want to redu...
I'm revisiting my "OOP VBA: Immutability & the Factory Pattern" article (damn my old articles were tiny!) ...it's the blog's most-viewed article, and with hindsight I can see how it's confusing & hard to follow. Will also upload accompanying code to the Examples repository
I'm trying to optimize my FilterArray function so I've thought to use the sorted column (when available).
The original function loops through all items in the array, make comparison in various columns and build the resulting array.
In this new version, I want to reduce the number of main loop's...
> > > > @mansellan > > > At the loss of Vista and Windows 8 (original). We'd retain support for Win7, 8.1 and 10. > > Would it be worthwhile to multitarget both .NET Core and .NET Framework? The SDK-style project format [allows this very simply](https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/standard/frameworks).
Perhaps. The server can be any language at all, I just suggested .Net Core as it has performance-related constructs that aren't (and will never be) available in .Net Framework. Vi
Been catching up with chat, and whilst its nice to see VB6 getting some attention, I wonder how realistic it is to create a new compiler from scratch whilst retaining full compatibility. It's also disappointing that it doesn't look like it'll be open-source. If it was GPL, I'd contribute.
It's also curious that a new IDE would be necessary. It seems easier to just provide language and debug services to VSCode (or other LSP clients).
AFAIU, even VB6 native executables use MSVBM for various functions, it's not clear from the site if and how that can be decoupled or avoided.
Right now, to me, it looks like vapourware. I'd love to be proven wrong.
> > Would it be worthwhile to multitarget both .NET Core and .NET Framework? The SDK-style project format [allows this very simply](https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/standard/frameworks).
[See the comments in this PR](https://github.com/rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck/pull/5239). There'll have to be few more changes before that is feasible.
@mansellan I have an active DM chat on Twitter with the guy, sent them a link to the mocking framework PR and invited them to comment - let's see where that goes :)
TBH I've seen too many fake "VB6 alternative IDEs" mock-ups that made the same claim, I have to say I'm suspicious of that one too. But, the video says it's not a mock-up and it actually is what it claims it is (well duh!) ...maybe I just want to believe it, but anyway they say they do have a working type converter, so...
@Duga @this that's kind of part of the idea. Language Server would split Rubberduck into two distinct executables, one that plugs into the VBE and a standalone language server that can parse VBA/6
hey, Lucas say we can put people on green screen in a whole world with all flying laser blasts and whizzing hovercrafts and various alien creatures!
@Vogel612 I'm easily confused and can't remember which direction --- one can reference the other but not the vice versa. Wasn't it .NET FX that can't reference a .NET Core?
netfx cannot reference netcore, and netcore cannot reference netfx. they can both reference netstandard, as long as they understand the version. netfx will never understand more than v2. netcore is already at 2.1.
yeah, I would consider the .NET 5 to be an improvement over the 3-headed .NET thingamiges, though Mat might still feel that it's basically breaking everything for the fun of it.
iiuc, the thinking was this... "we need to start again with .net. how do we do that without pissing everyone off? lets say from the start that its not fully compatible, but provide some way to migrate".
@Vogel612 You know, I wonder if a Rust VBIDE add-in would be less troublesome compared to a managed add-in. The COM support is still primitive, though.
@mansellan I thought it was already established that I'm a quiche eater.
dunno about writing GUI in such a low-level language, but if we can call into Rust from C#, I'd volunteer to reimplement the COM interaction in that language
Correct. It could be better. I'm also thinking about the message pump & subclassing - if that can be made unmanaged and thus not have to cross managed/unmanaged boundary for every Windows messages that might help.
Then there's the whole stupid WPF thing.... Once it's initialized, it's forever and more initialized, even if you unload everything else.
> Topics that are within the scope of this book include: the meaning of (un)safety, unsafe primitives provided by the language and standard library, [...], working with uninitialized memory, type punning, concurrency, interoperating with other languages (FFI), optimization tricks, how constructs lower to compiler/OS/hardware primitives, how to not make the memory model people angry, how you're going to make the memory model people angry, and more.
My comment RE: subclassing would not help reduce the memory issue but it may help avoid lagging or UI issues. (whether that's actually an issue is another question)
unlike C, Rust is safe programming language as far as you stay in Rust's sandbox, but Rust itself has to run unsafely to make Rust possible would be how I'd put it.
Hmm, I guess that probably explain why com needs to be unsafe; it's an ABI, so you must conform to it at binary level, and it's hard to do if you're working safely.
you cannot enforce the compiler guarantees onto external code, so anything interacting with external code on a binary level is unsafe from rust's perspective
@mansellan you could actually go so far as to implement an in-process language server
and then splitting it becomes a matter of turning the in-process communication to a between process communication
note that it's later going to be necessary to split up the test project(s) so we can do that
ok, so joking aside... what are we looking to prove out? the protocol is known, there are implementations on both the client and server side. Do we want to demostrate that a VBE add in can get and use results from an LSP conversation?
because that's just demonstating that we can read and write JSON, so...
well they define loads of messages, for things like "Show intellisense", "Go to declaration", etc. Hopefully most of our scenarios are covered, and we can define custom messages where not.
Oh and they have a protocol for debugging too, for when we find how to hook that :-)
Based on this question
Thought it was a nice puzzle
Main idea: How to randomly assign shifts to employees based on these restrictions:
As per the O.P.:
Randomly write to cells "1" or "0"
Employees' total shifts in a month can't be more than 7 and less than 4
According to a few crite...
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