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1:48 AM
Anyone up for a game of contact?
 
2:06 AM
o/
 
Sure.
 
Sid
2:52 AM
@Sp3000 OH MY GOD. You are a genius. That is... stupendously wonderful
 
@deus is the answer sh + [OUT]?
 
it is not.
 
Meh, cause if you take the ends of of MOUTH and stick it inside SHOCK it almost works.
But that's probably cheating somewhere.
 
 
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4:18 AM
@Deusovi little bit of a stretch, but maybe: AGAPE - GAP (mouth) in AE[-d] (shock (kind of), struck at the end) (wow!+&lit = def.. sort of)
 
@Alconja You're on the right track, but "AED" is not part of it.
 
Figured. That was definitely the weakest link.
Other idea I had was A[-w][GAP]E (shock = AWE, but striking the end of woW)?
 
And that's correct.
 
:) salvaged myself
Got stuck on the fact that an &lit didn't need an actual def in the clue
 
well, it sort of does
in that the entire clue is the definition
 
4:23 AM
well, yes, but not [cryptic]+[straight].. I was trying to force a single part into a def
 
I wasn't too happy with the second half of that clue, but "mouth in shock" was too good to pass up
(I know what you meant :P )
 
heh. I was sure that was going to be it but couldn't get the thing to fit
 
@Deusovi Yeah, a little clunky, but I'm impressed you can bash something like that out quickly
 
I had GAP, had AWE, didn't figure out the W removal. alas. :)
 
heh, thanks! I might've been able to come up with something cleaner had I not tried to get the clue to you all fairly quickly
(the original clue was for AGAPE but was entirely different - then I noticed that "gap" was roughly "mouth", thought it would work better as a surface, and saw A(-w)E surrounding it)
 
4:26 AM
Feels like you could almost do something with "breathless" (to clue removing the middle)... Mouth in shock. Breathless. (5)
 
I'd considered something along those lines, but "heartless" and things of that ilk typically refer to the center letter, which doesn't exist in AW(GAP)E
 
Mouth in shock, breathless - would have worked
 
Depends how you parse it. "Mouth in [shock: breathless/heartless]"
 
I'm not entirely sure "breath" can refer to the middle, unfortunately
 
No, me neither...
But now that I've dissected your clue, I suppose I should actually come up with one of my own.
 
4:31 AM
What does the "regarding potentially common" bit mean in sp's clue?
 
Regarding --> "on", and I'm not sure about the rest.
 
4:44 AM
Warning, possibly rule bending clue (not 100% sure):
CCCC: Die violently. Failure in mirror is worshipped. (8)
 
4:56 AM
You're sure it's (8)?
I have a solution for (7)
 
(damn, too old to edit...) Yes, 7 :\
 
no wonder
 
DEIFIED?
 
Hey, I gave a warning it was broken /s
@xnor 'tis
 
I don't think that exactly works, but the intent is clear enough
 
5:00 AM
yeah, wasn't sure about the mirror bit, hence my warning
 
I don't have time to make a CCCC, who wants next?
 
I could. I had the answer as well but left it to you hehe
 
Sounds like rubio would've had it if it weren't for my failed enumerating
 
(I'm not cool enough to have a text file of premade ones, I have to make them on the spot)
 
it takes me a little too long to make them up on the spot, and then I end up doing stupid things like indirect anagrams and make Deusovi use his angry eyes, and we can't have that now can we.
Though I do get a few semi-decent ones out in Contact from time to time ;)
CCCC: Perhaps a landlord. (6)
 
5:04 AM
Is it LETTER? (ddef: perhaps A / landlord)
 
could you explain landlord -> LETTER?
 
they're synonyms, apparently
 
one who lets
 
Someone who Lets. To let.
 
huh, I was thinking "lessor" for that
 
5:05 AM
let = lease
 
yah.
I knew that'd be quick :)
 
Sneaky A. I like it. :)
 
yeah "perhaps a", clever
 
But now I have to cobble another half baked idea... brb
 
hehe
 
5:06 AM
letter for landlord is sneaky too
 
I liked it.
 
5:24 AM
CCCC: Tossed about shuffled cards go over peoples' heads? (11)
 
6:04 AM
there are no anagrams of "tossed about".
 
oh. my.
@Alconja HEA(DSCAR)VES.
 
that looks right
 
or perhaps ---D
 
That it is
 
Tossed and heaves don't match
the typing it is hard
 
6:07 AM
Oops. failed again.. broke the grammar in fixing the surface
Should've been Tosses
 
the definition should have a "they" somewhere too
 
"Tosses about shuffled cards, what goes over peoples' heads? (11)" might be valid, eh wot?
 
Heh.. ok, so we're agreed. I shouldn't do any more impromptu CCs
 
CCCC: Share sorrow, about heart of sin and finally obsess about going back before Time ends (11)
 
I liked shuffled cards and kind of crammed everything else around it
 
6:11 AM
And I'm going to say this in advance. I am not sorry.
 
As if you ever were. :)
 
Oh, there's been a few. hehe
 
This has a very interesting surface
 
6:34 AM
@Rubio COMMISERATE - (def: share sorrow) COMM-A (, about) I+S+ER< (heart of sIn + and finally obsesS + about (RE) going back) TE (TimE ends)
 
wait that's evil
 
And he's not even sorry
 
No. No, he's not.
 
Oh well. What more can I expect.
 
Evil, but fun to untangle.
 
6:36 AM
(And the surface reading is a little clunky because I wanted that to be the one and only punctuation mark in it hehe)
 
^^
 
Nicely (and quickly) done, btw :)
 
Thanks. Started from ISER bit, which fit with one of multiple possible defs. ...then the aha of trying to find a way to clue the COMM :)
Ok, apologies, but my CC will be a little while... Will aim to get something up within the hour...
 
 
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7:40 AM
0
Q: A house facing North and South, but not East and West

GstestsoHow to build a house which faces to both North and South only, but not East and West?

 
@Sphinx ...what.
 
Ok, back at a computer. Sorry for the delay...
CCCC: Cry from misunderstanding is useless (9)
Warning (seems like I'm doing that a lot lately): the above clue is a little bit... creative in its interpretation of rules (though hopefully not to the point of outright breaking them).
 
wow. lol
I wasn't stealing, honest. that's damned funny
 
@Ankoganit @Deusovi "Common time" as in 4/4 time (to fit with the rhythm theme)
Nah, some CCs are so good it's hard for them not to have been done before, so it's to be expected
Kind of like when I came up with "Put on a very quiet German song (7)" and immediately looked it up to see that yup that exact phrasing has appeared in a paper
 
@Sp3000 that's the official version of your story, at least ;-)
 
@Sp3000 including the 7? :P
 
8:12 AM
Apparently I misremembered slightly - looking it up finds "Made a request for a very quiet German song (7)". But you get the point :P
 
 
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9:16 AM
0
Q: Sum of secret numbers is 101

P.-S. ParkAlice, Bob, and Charlie were given three numbers, respectively. They were said that all the three numbers were positive integers and the sum was 101. Alice: I know you two have different numbers. Bob: Aha, I got it. I found all the numbers. Charlie: Me, too. I know our numbers, now. Alice: Al...

 
10:36 AM
 
Also @Rubio How does it remind you of a biology class?
 
@bobo what's /safe?
 
/safe??
 
I don't know a lot about MathJax, which is one of the reasons I wanted the sandbox.
 
It's a non-existent command
 
10:45 AM
...explain?
 
so basically use make a code block with like this:
 $ \require{begingroup} \begingroup   \def \safe {\text{\endgroup error}} $

      (Answer that contains MathJax blocks)

      $ \endgroup \safe $
So the thing is:
safe is defined in the group
so if the group works correctly
safe will not be defined outside
 
I don't understand
 
and you should see the red \safe error
and the mathjax in the answer doesn't interfere with the mathjax on the rest of the page
but if the last \safe shows '\endgroup error'
then something's gone wrong
and the answer WILL interfere with other mathjax elements on the page
which makes trying to test things hard/impossible in some cases
look here for humn's explanation
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Q: Dragons: Myth or MathJax?

humnEver use MathJax to display mathematical expressions?   Expressions related to fractals? Ever used it to display fractals themselves?!   The time has come. These fractals are based on the iconic dragon curve and raise two questions. What is the rule behind these arrangements of letters? A c...

 
I still don't undersatnd
 
From what I understand, it's a way of making sure that none of the MJ interacts with MJ in other answers, which could be dangerous.
 
10:56 AM
I could write \def \sin {\text{LOL}} and then when someone tried \sin 2x it would render as LOL 2x.
 
It's putting it in a box to make sure it doesn't escape.
 
but if it's encased in a group which works, it will only affect what I wrote
^^ exactly
 
Okay gimme a sec
Okay, sorry guys
 
Sid
What is the primary use of safe?
 
I'm just tired and have work to do so I didn't make much of an effort to understand, but I get it now
Anyway, cool fact of the day:
If you put 'of the day' in front of anything, it makes it sound really important. Also, sometimes people make the assumption that you'll give more things 'of the day'.
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Sid
11:03 AM
@boboquack what exactly goes wrong in such cases?
@Wen1now that actually makes perfect sense. :P
 
Missing close parentheses/end thingy/something
 
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Q: $%The MathJax sandbox$

Mithrandir$$The\ MathJax\ Sandbox$$ It's occasionally difficult to figure out if your MathJax will work in a post, even if it works/doesn't work in the preview. Also, sometimes you want to experiment with stuff that you might use in a puzzle. So... it's always good to have a sandbox. This is primarily for...

 
11:30 AM
@Deusovi I just dug through my puzzling notes and found CLAMBER/SCRAMBLE (along with BUSH/SHRUB) and remembered your comment
 
12:15 PM
Good night all!
 
On a side note, does anybody have any really interesting facts? Just ping me and I'll check in the morning
 
@Wen1now daddy long-legs spiders are the most venomous spiders on Earth
The reason your hair bleaches in the sun is because it kills the melanin in it
 
@Wen1now what Mithrandir said about daddy longlegs is not true
 
meh
they just don't usually bite
but they theoretically could
and they're still venomous
McDonalds started serving breakfast in 1972
baby echidnas are called puggles
human calls don't have cell walls
the first car was driven by a guy names Charles King
 
12:31 PM
Fact no. 9 if you make up a fact nobody will notice
 
...why are you still awake?
 
Good night means that I've entered the night phase
 
elephants have 26 teeth
 
the word "kangaroo" means "I don't know"
 
puggles sounds like a nice name
 
12:35 PM
Brent Spiner - who played Data in Star Trek: The Next Generation - also lent his voice to a Star Wars character.
 
Ooh, I learnt a really cool thing today - AI has become better than humans at lip reading
 
cool
Talking about lip reading
I tried to learn some sign language jokes today
 
And..?
 
I don't understand any of them :P
They have puns the same way we do, except with actions
which would be great if I knew any sign language
 
Speaking of sign language
I need to go now
 
12:38 PM
gnight
 
night
 
Do you guys do any maths contests?
 
nope
i'm not good at math xD
 
This is the official goodbye
A widely held belief has it that the word kangaroo comes from an Australian Aboriginal word meaning "I don't know." This is in fact untrue. The word was first recorded in 1770 by Captain James Cook, when he...
 
12:43 PM
bonan nokton ~
 
12:56 PM
@Wen1now I did every year in high school :P
@Wen1now yeah a ton, hang on I just need to find them: require 'interesting-facts'
 
 
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4:00 PM
@Sp3000 Ha! So our Contact psychic ability apparently extends to puzzle design, too.
Quick, guess the final solution to my meta³puzzle!
 
0
Q: Man selling sheeps

Nordinatora man with 90 sheeps, he wants to sell them in a market far from his farm by 30km (miles) he went searching for trucks to load his sheeps so he found out that every truck can carry 30 sheeps and he have to pay 1 sheep for every 1km to every truck driver (1sheep/km/driver). In the of the day he m...

 
Sid
4:50 PM
What was our last election stats?
I mean, how many people voted?
 
Sid
Hmm. Okay.
 
5:14 PM
@Sid Hey!
Could you testsolve my puzzle?
 
Sid
Hi.
What tags do you intend to put in it?
 
You know, my puzzlemaking skills are pathetic
It's crossword-clues most probably
but that can change over the course of testsolving
 
Sid
Okay. I will look at yours tomorrow.
 
@Sid Make a private chat room now just to get started
 
Sid
Well, I am not a mod.
So, I can't. You need to ask a mod to do that for you
 
5:16 PM
Oh, I see.
There's already a private room, we can use that.
 
You already have a room; maybe we can just add @Sid to it.
 
@Mithrandir Okay.
The CSR is frozen
 
Interesting. I can't unfreeze a private room hosted on Puzzling.SE.
Maybe @Deus can help you.
 
Sure.
 
@Deusovi Thanks. :-)
Could you add @Sid to it?
 
Sid
5:35 PM
@Gareth my puzzle was a near-dupe of the camel. Not an exact dupe. :P
near-dupe because I saw that and then changed one crucial data from that puzzle
 
 
1 hour later…
6:46 PM
@boboquack It looks like a cell drawing, complete with nucleus. hehe
@boboquack I do agree the \safe sandboxing in the sandbox should be there. Would you mind editing that into the top post as a ready-to-copy-pasta snippet with an explanation of why (and how) to use it?
 
0
Q: You have 13 minutes to unlock this safe

Artur KirkoryanI want to share one more chapter of the puzzle crime story I make for my website. All of the information for solving this puzzle is contained in the text and the image below. As usual, any feedback will be highly appreciated. Thanks! In the moment Sanders entered the hut, the electricity insi...

 
Dear @EveryoneInTSL - A house facing North and South, but not East and West is attracting a lot of generally unique answers, many of which are not particularly great but none of which one could point to and say is plainly blatantly wrong. I suspect this is mainly because the puzzle is underspecified, so we're not really sure what its asker means by "facing". Does anyone feel this is close-worthy until the ambiguity is addressed?
(It's on HNQ, and isn't exactly putting Puzzling's best foot forward)
 
Yes, it's close worthy. casts vote
Your cat puzzle was a rare example of a HNQ that deserved it.
 
7:03 PM
I say far too broad, 14 answers :S
 
Off topic > not fully defined
 
@Mithrandir too broad still applies
 
Splitting hairs.. It's both, so meh. :)
 
Also it's incorrectly tagged
 
I'm voting to close this as off topic, with our custom 'not fully defined' off topic reason, until this is edited to be less broad and to have a confirmable answer. — Mithrandir 4 mins ago
 
7:07 PM
confirmable
 
@Rubio blame autocucumber
 
"...with out custom 'not fully defined' reason..."?
 
Ouch
 
the typing is hard.
 
lol
 
7:10 PM
 
wow that question was at +5 when I looked a few mins ago
 
The PSE, she giveth and she taketh away.
 
indeed.
*thud*
 
Sid
Isn't there a too broad closing reason?
 
That seems too anticlimactic to be the modhammer sound.
 
7:24 PM
@Sid there is
 
@Sid There is, I think @Mithrandir just wanted to use the custom one :P
 
But we have a special one ;)
 
Yeah, the "too broad" close reason text was recently changed. It doesn't really apply to Puzzling anymore.
 
TBH, we could close them as unclear, too broad, primarily opinion based, or off topic.
 
Would it be possible to put not fully defined under too broad? Saying off-topic is misleading.
 
7:26 PM
Nope. Custom reasons all go under "off topic".
 
ah ok
Still misleading though
 
Sid
Also, @mith what is autocucumber?:P
 
Autocorrect.
 
scrolls through transcript of Root Access
Also, FWIW
74
Q: Categories other than "off-topic" should allow custom close reasons

Michael HamptonCustom close reasons are a great boon to Stack Exchange sites, allowing the community to provide more tailored advice to site-specific situations. Their big problem (aside from being limited to three by default) is that they are all lumped under "off-topic". This is often confusing. I suggest th...

 
7:47 PM
@Sid Yes, I agree, the apples are not exactly equivalent to the bananas. But the sheep are almost exactly equivalent to the apples, because there are multiple trucks. Not quite exactly equivalent, but awfully similar.
 
Sid
...I guess I see your point.
 
@Deusovi It was only a +2-weight close vote, so a solid thud seemed fitting.
@mith is the MJ Sandbox title intentional? It's not very question-list friendly.
 
8:03 PM
Well, I was testing.
 
MJ? Mary Jane? Marijuana? Michael Jackson?
 
In fact, that was one of the main reasons I posted it ;P
But if someone wants to edit it, feel free.
@dcfyj MathJax
 
Well. I mean - if we intend to let people use it, it should be usable. ;)
 
But yes, the title was intentionally invisible.
So was the invisible answer.
And the answer that was shorter than the minimum character length.
Title is now visible.
I intend to experiment with buttons at some point in the future.
 
I know a pretty button example you can borrow from hehe
 
8:12 PM
I'm planning on stealing it ;)
 
 
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9:43 PM
@BeastlyGerbil Nice answer edit. ;)
 
10:00 PM
@Rubio well if you have to lose 65 out of 90 sheep just to get to a market I think you're going to find maki profits is a pretty difficult thing to do... :P
 
that was indeed the gist of my comment. all the questions of this type are implausible, but this one is just broken
 
0
Q: Hidden message in pictures 1 (easy-medium)

mikeleTrying something new here. The following is the first of a set of hidden messages from a story. Find the hidden sentence in this set of images. The order if from left to right and then to the second row. For full size image, right-click the image → open in new tab. For a little hint, check ...

 
10:17 PM
@Sid It can really stuff things up - for instance if you redefined \array, no-one else can use array from wherever your post is on the page to wherever someone else redefines \array to its original definition (I'm not even sure what that is).
 
 
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11:59 PM
I'm wondering whether this puzzle needs a tag clean-up:
-1
Q: Which letter completes this puzzle?

Alan Koh W.TAs shown in picture below, which letter completes the puzzle ? It bogging me for few days already ...

 

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