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Q: Grandpa's peculiar TV

SlowMagicI found this peculiar TV in my grandfather's workshop:

 
1:17 AM
@oAlt Care to share?
 
1:31 AM
hm, a RING could be a "metal band", and there are a lot of words that fit RxxxxING, but can't come up with any that means "a fraction"
 
2:02 AM
So... your saying ring outsie "satellite and south shields"
Well plus I got over 1.6k reputation lol
 
 
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3:05 AM
I'm thinking we might be looking for a metal or a metal band and that "dropped a fraction" might be removing E or PI or PHI or TAU or some other notable fraction
but that requires a lot of letters out of the rest of the clue that I'm just not getting
 
Fair...
 
3:25 AM
@Stevo sure
@Deusovi I won't be surprised if other Lair denizens have figured out what's going on with your profile picture, and they have also probably explained it in chat, but just in case: rot13(Fhccbfr, fgnegvat sebz gur gbc yrsg pbeare bs gur urcgntba, bar fcryyf bhg "QRIVBHF", jvgu bar yrggref ba rnpu pbeare. Gura gur yvarf vafvqr gur urcgntba vaqvpngr juvpu yrggref ner fjnccrq gb nantenz "QRIVBHF" vagb "QRHFBIV".
Bar pna frr gung n yvar pbaarpgf gur pbearef jvgu I naq H, naq nabgure pbaarpgf gur pbearef jvgu V naq F. Vaqrrq, gubfr yrggref ner fjnccrq jura trggvat sebz "QRIVBHF" gb "QRHFBIV". v.r., QRIVBHF → QR I VB H F → QR H VB I F (fjnc H naq I) → QRHVBIF → QRH V BI F → QRH F BI V (fjnc V naq F) → QRHFBIV. Bs pbhefr, guvf nyfb jbexf gur bgure jnl ebhaq (sebz QRHFBIV gb QRIVBHF).)
 
@oAlt I was like doing something else and I heard the SE ping and I very quickly turned to this page lol
 
4:04 AM
@juicifer None of the ones you specify are fractions, though.
 
not in the traditional sense
but maybe in the this-is-a-bit-of-a-stretch-because-I'm-writing-a-cryptic-clue sense
idk
 
Fair enough.
 
I guess HALF or THIRD or the like could also fit but those don't seem as useful
 
4:47 AM
How is 22/7 not a fraction? :)
 
@MOehm no, not 22/7... 104,348/33,215
 
5:15 AM
@MOehm It's not 22/7. It's 3. Which is a whole number, not a fraction.
 
I guess everyone can have their own conception of pi.
 
fun fact: usually zero plus a real number is a real number, but 0+pi can be imaginary
wait, this isn't the mathsmen's den
 
6:08 AM
@MOehm but only mine is immaculate
 
Oh, oh, I see a schism coming. The Integralists believe that pi is 3; the Fractionalists believe pi is 22/7, Jafe on his rock believes p·i is imaginary and the Irrationalists have left for Math SE.
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@MOehm hey and then there's me who believes pi is 104,348/33,215
 
Apostate!
 
6:40 AM
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Q: General Fake Coin: k fake coins out of n coins

Alan LiuConsidering a general fake coin problem. There are n coins in total and k of them are fake. Fake coins are lighter than the normal ones. You only have a balance to compare two groups of coins (no amount limit). How many times you will compare at least?

 
7:30 AM
@MOehm ic
 
8:23 AM
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Q: An irrational puzzle

Prim3numbahWhat's the answer to this puzzle?

 
8:49 AM
turns out not all the irrationalists have left us
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9:40 AM
Lolll
 
 
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10:58 AM
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Q: The computer can't do anything I couldn't do with pen and paper

quaragueIf you want to know how much $3^{100}$ is, you can just type it into a computer and it will spit out a really big number. But that is no fun. The task is to estimate $3^{100}$ with some computation which can be checked and followed without computer aid and that can be written down on at most one...

 
11:44 AM
C4 Hints: 1) The 'the' is probably superfluous. 2) the answer to a previous C4 of mine might help solve part of the current one. 3) 'metal band' and 'fraction' are units.
 
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Q: First 9 members from a prestigious list

chandanr777 Upon completion, these are the first 9 members from a prestigious list to form the name of their field. Carl Bosch Hermann Emil Fischer Eduard Buchner Marie Sklodowska Curie Irving Langmuir Svante Arrhenius Theodore William Richards Richard Willstatter Who is the missing member?

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Q: more rileys, MORE RILEYS!

someoneinexistenceHear ye, hear ye, my first is the, Arabic! Hear ye, hear ye, my second is money, I don’t know why! Hear ye, hear ye, oyez, oyez, my last is number one (hehehe) with a stick! Hear ye, oyez! My whole gives out my middle!

 
 
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12:57 PM
aha, so it looks like "dropped a" means removing the letter a
op's five previous c4's, since they're being hinted at:
"Peace and calm heart in mosh pit (6)", answer SHALOM
"Taking you north east, and next door winding eastward are rivers. Port home to Archives (4,3,4)", answer TYNE AND WEAR
"Perhaps an ambulatory beam from star over a broken oculus? (10)", answer MIRACULOUS
"Make teary departees leave quickly? (4, 1, 6, 7)", answer BEAT A SPEEDY RETREAT
"Greetings from crater containing south Sudan's capital (6)", answer KISSES
 
1:33 PM
Oops mustard what you wrote
Misread
 
1:52 PM
hmm, KISS is a metal band and KISSES is one of the answers...
 
true, but then the definition would have to be 'fraction'
and I'm not seeing anything helpful in that direction
 
i mean, "metal band" is a unit, and that is "surrounding" something... doesn't that make fraction the def?
 
yeah that's what I'm saying is that I don't see anything that means "fraction" that includes the letters in KISS
(or most of them because "south shields dropped" could very well mean dropping at least an S)
 
oh right
 
although maybe the construction is KISS around (satellite, with south) and then the whole thing gets its shields (outer letters) dropped
and then presumably you don't have to deal with the K anymore
 
2:02 PM
yeah that sounds plausible
or the same with another metal band, for that matter
 
 
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4:15 PM
These are some good ideas
For the record:"Perhaps an ambulatory beam from star over a broken oculus? (10)", answer MIRACULOUS
Is linked to an earlier C4
 
4:28 PM
I'm noticing a bit of a pattern in asr's c4s where things are coming up every four clues
the last clue (before this one) clued SHALOM, and four before that was KISSES
before each of those we got TYNE AND WEAR and BOURNEMOUTH CHRISTCHURCH AND POOLE
that would imply that MIRACULOUS is linked to HANDRAILS somehow and that this clue is linked to BEAT A SPEEDY RETREAT
or of course their clues could be linked but the answers to the first two seem so solid together
the only thing that comes up when I search "miraculous handrails" is this staircase in a new mexico chapel
 
There's no deliberate spacing between the two patterns/themes
Sep 13 at 13:14, by oAlt
@AncientSwordRage I think this is MIRACULOUS, with the ambulatory beam referring to the miraculous beam in the ambulatory of Christchurch Priory. The wordplay is MIRA + CULOUS (broken "oculus").
 
4:49 PM
this seems like it might be useful then
 
5:47 PM
Oh, that's interesting. But why is it written without capital letters in the clue?
 
6:06 PM
yeah idk
I also haven't found any useful abbreviations for it or any satellites or fractions related to it
but it sure seems like the part connected to a previous c4 and idk how it would help us solve the clue if it were just part of the surface
 
micro-hint 'south shields' is purely wordplay here, and probably a very unhelpful red herring. The connection is elsewhere in the clue
 
ok good to know
 

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