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12:30 AM
@athin Might be the first time I've ever seen a question get sniped!!
 
 
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2:08 AM
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Q: A King's Hamiltonian Tours

Bernardo Recamán Santosa) Place the numbers 1 to 25 in the cells of a 5 x 5 board in such a way that consecutive numbers occur in adjacent cells either vertically, horizontally, or diagonally, and so do cells with numbers 1 and 25. Numbers in the nine cells belonging to the board's two diagonals should all be prime. b...

 
 
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3:30 AM
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Q: On The Subject of ​?​?​?

Deusovi (This is the last of a series of puzzles written for Timwi for a Secret Santa puzzle exchange, themed around various custom modules for the game Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes. KTaNE knowledge is necessary to solve this puzzle; the necessary knowledge can be found on Timwi's site.) On The S...

 
Avi
4:00 AM
^ argh
how is it possible to have such good pixel art skills :x
I'm jealous
 
4:13 AM
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Q: Double Riley of Melancholy

Ébe Isaac My prefix is served Eat if you may The prefix of my prefix is a prefix, per se My infix is inside you Within, it resides The infix of my infix can be seen from outside My suffix is a number Count to address The suffix of my suffix is a suffix, just guess!

 
(whoops, sorry about that - my arm was resting on my laptop's numpad and apparently it was on both the . and the enter key)
 
 
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5:34 AM
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Q: A Palindromic Puzzle

KrishnaCurious as to my writing output, one slow weekend I decided to count how many words I had written in a report of a previous case. After many hours of counting, during which I rewarded myself with many generous breaks, I finally reached the grand total of 24,942 words. I jubilantly reported this n...

 
5:54 AM
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Q: How can you get 100 by only using 2,4,6, and 9 by only using them once

Theo Demeulemeesterpls get answer okokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokok

 
 
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1:24 PM
@Sphinx Apparently this got deleted, guess I'm not reading it after all lol
 
@dcfyj It wasn't much worth reading. It was a very routine mathematical thing that I suspect the poster found somewhere else.
(The question was, in effect: what's the next palindromic number after 24942?)
(The main reason why I suspect he found it somewhere else is that most of his puzzles look like he found them somewhere else.)
 
Makes sense
 
 
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4:52 PM
@mbingo Uhh I just saw your name as your banner was coming down
That's weird
 
Yeah, there was an issue with merging two Stack Exchange accounts.
 
Oh i see
 
I thought it was resolved, but if you saw my name then it might still be wonky...
@HTM What do you think about another C4 hint? :D
 
Well only when the banner was coming down
Now it just has your username
 
Good to know, thanks :)
 
4:56 PM
se been kind glitchy
i got like 3 mentions without being notified
*at least
 
Bummer though... my old Puzzling SE user id was 2^16.
 
what happened?
 
an account merge?
 
I had two SE accounts. I changed one of the emails so the two accounts merged, and my old account (which used my real name) ended up taking over.
 
ah
 
4:59 PM
My newer account had ID 65536, which was awesome. SE support has reverted the name change (on my request), but deleted the newer account.
 
can you ask them to switch it back? I'm sure they'll understand
 
Anyway. I have a couple of ideas on this KTaNE meta, but not the breakthrough yet...
Ha, they probably would sympathize. But I don't mind. 61651 is beautiful too. I'm sure. In its own way.
 
5:16 PM
hm, according to abbreviations.com, concern (the business term) is abbreviated C
IST is also a grouping of left-leaning organizations (International Socialist Tendency)
not really a slam dunk for "the left", though
 
Feasible, though, given what HTM has said about the looseness.
Now if we can just get AS from "return detailed"...
I mean, ya hate to cite abbreviations.com when solving a cryptic clue.
 
yeah
 
5:46 PM
@mbingo Apparently, 61651 is the number of partitions of the number 43 which contain at least one even part.
 
Amazing. This was a blessing in disguise!
Did you OEIS it?
 
@mbingo Haha, guilty.
 
@hexomino Haha, no, it was a good call to do that.
 
slightly less catchy than 2^2^2^2, still :P
 
 
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HTM
8:00 PM
CCCC hints: 1. "Beginning" does not modify "concern." 2. "Detailed" does not modify "return." 3. "Concern the left" clues C_.
@mbingo I'm at your "Loser" artist and phone dial
So yeah, there's one non-standard part of the clue
Probably should've gone for something like "succeed, essentially"
But then it wouldn't sound nearly as nice, can't have one and the other :\
 
Okay, I think I have it.
 
Avi
what
 
Or at least something possibly defensible...
 
Avi
concern the left?
@Deusovi I summon thee
O great devourer I offer you a clue
 
def: Nazi
"in" = SAFE; "detailed in" = SAF, "return detailed in" to get FAS
"file" = LIST; "file, [with] beginning [changed] to concern (the left)" = CIST
 
Avi
8:08 PM
in = safe?
 
HTM
@mbingo Yes, that's it! Congrats!
 
Avi
I guess
file was list after all :)
 
HTM
@Avi That was the other iffy part of the clue
 
Really nice deception on "in". It reads so blatantly as a container indicator.
 
Avi
okay @mbingo it's your turn to clue
:3
think of a good one
 
8:09 PM
How does it work? I can clue anything I want?
 
HTM
Yeah, once I realized I could do that I knew I had a C4 worthy clue in my hands
 
What's the goal? What constitutes C4-worthy?
 
HTM
Still kinda mad at myself about "concern the left"
 
I assume I'm aiming for tough?
 
Avi
not tough
it's tough because we don't get any letters
 
8:10 PM
Agreed, phew.
 
Avi
tricky is what you shoot for
 
HTM
@mbingo Well, any difficulty is accepted, but generally speaking they should be at least a bit harder than the clues you'd find in a crossword
 
@HTM Yeah, the non-standardness there made it tough to assume that that was it. Once you told us what it meant, it fell really quickly.
 
HTM
And some creators use C4s to experiment with interesting/devilish constructs
 
Hmm, okay.
 
Avi
8:11 PM
Primal groudon
 
@Avi more interesting
 
HTM
So really it's up to you what you want to do with this opportunity :)
 
Avi
@Mithical interesting is tricky
 
Not necessarily.
 
Avi
Why, do you think non-interesting things are tricky? Or non-tricky things are interesting?
Shame
burbles in puzzling
 
HTM
8:13 PM
Anagrinds are interesting but they're insanely easy to locate, so not at all tricky
 
Something can have an interesting gimmick or unique twist without being tricky.
 
It'll probably take me a few clues to get a feel for what PSEites like... and also feel comfortable experimenting, but I'll think on it and get something out soon :D
 
Avi
Primal Groudon detailed a stickler, of sorts (3)
gROuDo(-n) = ROD [a stickler, of sorts]
 
...Spyfall's been frozen.
 
Avi
Spyfalllll
Spyfal
 
HTM
8:15 PM
The "primal" trick was really fun, but I wouldn't necessarily want to see that in a crossword
 
Avi
where Elsa goes to play ball
 
HTM
@Mithical More like Spyfell, amirite?
 
Avi
Primal = from early times = leader indicator?
Primal beast = B_?
 
HTM
I'm ok with "primal" as a first letter indicator, but not as a prime positions one
 
I guess I'd be okay with it in other clues, but in my own I'd feel better using "X, primally".
 
HTM
8:19 PM
Kinda like "X, evenly"?
 
Yeah. "even X" doesn't feel right for "the even letters of X", and "primal X" feels the same way to me.
 
Avi
Even Steven
Odd Todd
 
HTM
Ooh, "squarely" also fits in that category of indicators too
 
Avi
what are you gonna do with 1, 4, 9, and 16?
besides making us count a lot of letters :x
Artificial computer returned with piece of snake (5)
MAC< + PY(-thon)
 
HTM
Breaking doors's squarely wrong (3)
BAD example, but just a proof of concept
 
8:25 PM
Punched squarely; he died after (3)
Yeah, that's fun.
 
HTM
Neato, now time to confuse the heck out of my friends who have never heard of cryptic clues before!
 
@Avi Not bad! "Artificial computer" is nice.
 
HTM
"Piece of snake" probably won't be accepted for PY
 
Yeah. I'd go "with couple of snakes".
 
HTM
Since "piece" is often a hidden word indicator or single letter indicator
Artificial computer declined a salary (5)
 
Avi
8:28 PM
????
a salary = PY?
oh
declined a from pay
but that doesn't work, because computer = MAC, not CAM
 
Wait. MAC needs reversal, right?
I've never seen "declined X Y" to mean "X with Y removed".
 
I'm also unsure about the grammar of 'declined a salary'
 
In cryptics or in life.
 
if that's intended
(assuming from those comments that it's not)
 
@Avi wut
Gross
Primals are disgusting
 
Avi
8:30 PM
CC on Fire!
 
HTM
Artificial computer returns salary taken away initially (5)
 
Avi
Artificial computer returns with salary but no heart (5)
spooky spooky ai ai
 
HTM
Definitely see a possible "malevolent AI" surface reading the way this is headed
 
Avi
Malevolent AI invades...
 
that's no way to refer to @dcfyj
 
Avi
8:37 PM
Rebelling AI invades a command with false identity (5)
A + L(AI<)S [false identity]
not sure the "with" is kosher
I rejected troubles over rogue AI's false identity (5)
A(-i)L(AI*)S -> alias
 
@HTM No
 
Avi
wait
is Spyfall referring to the song Skyfall
or is that just a future CC idea
 
@Avi No, defnitely not
 
Avi
Ah, of course, Adele got the inspiration from Skyfall
/s
 
obviously
and so did the James Bond movie
 
Avi
8:50 PM
o.o
 
Duh
And so did the location for the movie
 
Avi
@North Who's that?
 
Don't know
Some like American shooter, right?
Or actually, I think he's like a nurse in WWII
 
Avi
And here I thought he was a chemical bond
 
LMAOOOOO
I'm in chem class rn
We're literally going over chemical reactions
 
Avi
8:54 PM
My reaction to that is...
very stoich
 
die
gross
GrOss
gRoSs
 
Avi
grOsS
lemme finish that pattern for you
 
@North Pay attention. It could save your life one day. :-)
 
@msh210 Nah, I can drink hydrofluoric acid, no problem!
 
Avi
You don't even have to calculate the reaction to see that's a bad idea
wait until you get to calculating enthalpy
or biochemistry
shudders
 
8:57 PM
@Avi Lol did that last year
Or sort of last year
Don't speak of enthalpy
Horrors from AP Bio
shivers
 
Avi
enthalpy is easy
it could save your life one day
by preventing an exothermic reaction from melting through your glass beaker
and proceeding to eat through your legs
and/or other body parts
 
By why would I even be in that situation
 
Avi
experimentation
for valuable monies
 
Nah Imma be broke living as a music major
;....)
 
Avi
uh
how skilled are you
good relative pitch? perfect relative pitch?
what instrument, too
lot more competition as a violinist than as a violist
coughs
 
9:01 PM
Good relative pitch, I have like dormant perfect pitch
I play trumpet, part of choir (madrigals) next year, but I'm gonna go into composition & theory
 
Avi
how so
composition and theory? how do you even make money as a composer nowadays
 
@Avi I.e. I was born with perfect pitch but never developed it, so it's the same as not having perfect pitch
 
Avi
oof
I can only tell if a note is right
not if it's wrong/how it's relatively wrong
not only that, but my ears transpose everything
so something might be in G# major, but I hear it as something else (e.g. A major)
 
@Avi I know I have perfect pitch because I can sing certain songs on the right key
I can hear the entire soundtrack in my head
 
Avi
I can sing certain songs in the right key too
 
9:04 PM
@Avi Well pretty much any song
 
Avi
but I can't remember songs - I just forget notes ~3 seconds after hearing them
 
I can't tell you notes though, because like I said, I never developed prfect pitch
 
Avi
I forget most everything ~3 seconds after hearing it though
 
lol
 
Avi
but if I remember, I can transpose it to the piano
by pressing random notes until I hit the right one
 
9:06 PM
me
@Avi Idk, my point exactly
 
Avi
you should try computer programming
 
My parents tell me that
But like
fbdobfhd
So confusing
The main problem with coding is that I can't look at screens for long periods of time, paired with the fact that I SUCK at reading text over screen
I like the problem solving aspect of coding, but I get a massive headache afterwards
 
Avi
oh
I stare at a screen for like 14 hours a day
and problem solving is enjoyable
 
Yeah, I can't do that
 
Avi
I just walk around in circles until I understand
 
9:10 PM
Computer programming is my favorite type of problem-solving
Hard to explain why... I think it's because you know when you've fixed it
It's pretty instantaneous, and very satisfying
 
Avi
uhhhh no
 
Idk
 
Avi
most of the simple ones you can tell though
I've spent months trying to solve a single problem
 
I've only done up Python so, anything past that is gibberish to me
 
Avi
and still haven't figured it out :x
 
9:12 PM
oof
What program do you usually use? C++?
Oh, I've also done HTML
And of course, Scratch
 
Avi
I can program in C, C++, Java, Python, HTML, CSS, Ruby
to an increasingly limited degree for Ruby though
and to an increasingly unlimited degree for Java
 
Scratch is the highest form of coding, FIGHT me
I'll learn C++, one day.
One day
ONE DAY
(never)
Of all the fields in music, I'm attracted towards the least practical
Aside from music appreciation and music history
 
Avi
why would you learn C++
python is the best for beginning practice
Java is to weed out the weak
 
isn't C++ the most widely used programming?
 
Avi
C++ is to weed out the non-strong
 
9:17 PM
Skip C++!
 
@mbingo Funny
I gave up on java, so I guess I'm weak
 
Avi
JavaScript is the most widely used iirc
 
No seriously. It's not worth it for learning. I'd go with JS.
 
Avi
JS is also the most valuable
 
Yeah. If a job is your aim, JS. If problem solving/puzzling, probably Python was the right call :)
 
9:18 PM
@mbingo What exactly does JS do?
 
Javascript is just a super widely used web programming language.
 
Is HTML just for decoration
 
Really it's just a normal language, but it's really flexible and doesn't enforce too many rules on you, and people built a lot of frameworks on it to build web stuff.
HTML is for layout, largely.
 
ah
 
Avi
CSS is for decoration
Bootstrap framework is probably what you want to start with
 
9:20 PM
I'll get better on Python first and then move onto like JS or C++
 
Avi
why C++
 
Bc Musescore is from C++
 
Avi
unless you can do Java, C++ sounds like an eminently good way to get confused
 
love;y
What do I have to know for JS?
 
Avi
how to be a garbage coder
 
9:22 PM
?
 
Avi
watch 200 internet tutorials then it still doesn't come naturally
in all seriousness, the best way to pick something up is to try it
fail and fail again
 
cool, I'll talk to @mbingo, you're very helpful Avi
 
Avi
until you succeed
that's what I do, at least
 
idk when I would have time to learn
I'm so busy with concerts and performances
 
Avi
that would put a hamper on things, yes
wait what
they make you do concerts and performances?
 
9:29 PM
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Q: A six letter Name

DEEMCan you figure this out? It's a name And a Surname An island A code Three US states And also elements A six letter word that ends in a college, that will need some knowledge.

 
@Avi Well it's not like I can skip them
I'm in band
 
Avi
@North true
do they pay you
 
I have like what, six concerts next month
@Avi School band, of course not
 
Avi
@North do you perform out of school though
 
@Avi Not yet
@Avi But most places I would have to pay money to play in the outside bands lol
Only places i could make money is like competition, which I'm NOT winning
 
Avi
9:32 PM
@North but whai
 
I probably wouldn't even have time to be honest
 
Avi
this is your career
possibly
 
@Avi I'm not good enough to lol
 
Avi
do you practice 40 hours a day or not
 
But all those ling lings practice 40 hours and more
 
Avi
9:34 PM
that doesn't matter
get off the computer and go practice x.x
when you make 200k a year thank me for the advice
 
10:34 PM
Alright—I'll work my way up to some fancier stuff eventually, but to unblock the chain:
CCCC: Cheese, along with a couple of Mexican beans (7)
 
@mbingo Edam + a + Me(xican)
 
@msh210 Nailed it.
 
@mbingo At least I didn't cut it.
CCCC: What prevents cutting a hand? A safety worker with no gin cocktail (10)
 
10:53 PM
I like the surface
 
11:18 PM
@JohnDvorak thanks
 
HTM
11:31 PM
I have a feeling there's a (NO GIN)* somewhere in there
CUSHIONING fits the "What prevents cutting" part, but I don't know how to get CUSHI from "hand" or "safety worker"
 

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