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2:23 AM
@Seggan oh no is that the phonetic layout
if you had a real russian keyboard on you'd get цвнь :P
 
yeah its яжерт
i dont have those fancy stickers for the keys
 
йцуке gang
you don't need 'em :P
 
besides, i never learned how to type on real russian keyboards :P
 
it's not hard
there's a weird logic to the arrangement
 
i have to use one at church and its hard, trust me lol
 
2:27 AM
like you have тьб all next to each other
апро in the middle
 
dont see the logic
 
How common is it to have non-English keyboards?
I've literally never seen a non-English keyboard in my entire life
Any keyboard without a US layout, actually
 
same
i doubt there's anywhere that non-local keyboards are sold at all
except maybe regions that technically have local layouts but nobody manufactures them
or i guess for high end keyboards if your local layout is niche then you buy the closest major approximation
 
2:51 AM
Never seen them in India either
Or even menus in languages other than English - the topic came up with my parents once and they say they've never seen anyone use a menu in an English language and that it seemed bizarre to them when in movies, people open up their computers and everything's in Spanish or Chinese or whatever
 
wait what
 
tbf the Devnagari script has a ridiculous number of letters, hard to fit that onto a keyboard
I wonder if Chinese keyboards are uncommon too because the script(s?) has so many letters
 
i'm like 90% sure i remember one of my professors last semester having his os language set to tamil
 
And the translations were good enough?
Maybe I just need to get out more lol
 
i don't speak tamil :P
but probably
 
2:54 AM
@user *in an Indian language
 
@user there's a bunch of competing input methods iirc but most of them are designed to work fine on a us layout keyboard
incidentally microsoft's ime for japanese is slightly awkward on a us layout keyboard due to missing like one or two keys for character sets
 
oof
 
I tried my hand at using Dalle for a potential site logo and got disappointing results
 
I guess people have their own alternative keyboards?
 
2:57 AM
lol
 
i think that's a thing on actual japanese keyboards half because historically people used actual kana layouts instead of typing in romaji and letting software convert it
 
Ugh, I'm kinda annoyed by the fact that English is so common with computer stuff
 
lemamp
preup.ming.?
 
Why are programming languages in English too?
 
that's a no-brainer :P
 
2:58 AM
I think it could be worded a little more professionally
Especially the second one. I would not want words like "Phogsdiating" on a site visited by children
@UnrelatedString It was more of a rhetorical question
I wish major contributions to the Internet and computing had been done by people from someplace with a nice, somewhat regular language, that had a subset usable for general-purpose human stuff and also parseable by computers
 
the global dominance of english overall is kind of regrettable but as a basis for technical stuff it's somewhere between inevitable and necessary
 
Actually, why exactly did English become so popular in the first place? The British colonizing a bunch of places? The American military starting the Internet? Lots of CS people being from English-speaking places?
 
yep
all of the above
 
:|
tbh it's not a terrible language (and I would have to learn a new language if everyone switched to something else), it just annoys me when I, someone whose primary language is English, type out a relatively uncomplicated sentence and can't tell if it's grammatically incorrect or if something's spelled incorrectly
I cannot wait for implants that let us transcend language
Reading a book where people start getting implants to augment their intelligence and whatever by the 2020s and the singularity arrives well before the end of the century
And then I see the current world and it's not even close
(Book's Accelerando, by the way, interesting concepts but not the best writing, and the author seems to really like shoving in buzzwords)
 
3:40 AM
Huh, we're back to only needing 13 questions. Did we get new people or did someone just move their votes around?
 
we did gain a new follower, so maybe there were 4 9-scores
also, I figured out why there's a follower requirement when you need like 80 people to get the 40 10+-scores - because you can vote without following. Still doesn't make that much sense when there's a chance that if you're voting, you probably are going to follow the proposal, and getting 40 10+-score answers means that at least 8 people have asked questions and 80 people have been dedicated enough to vote, but it is what it is
 
4:01 AM
it also incentivizes people to follow :P
 
 
12 hours later…
3:43 PM
We got one more productive vote and three unporoductive ones
If anyone has a +1 on any of those +11s, could you reshuffle it?
3
 
 
1 hour later…
4:48 PM
@user a certain software we use at church for projection, while its designed for russian, still has its menus in english
@RydwolfPrograms mine are on 10s
@user mm read the synopsis on wikipedia a while ago, never got around to getting it
 
 
3 hours later…
7:41 PM
Ooh we just got a vote taken from the +19 and reallocated to a +7
@Ginger "sign up" not "log in"
Also reason we prolly get so few votes is you need to sign up and confirm your email address and stuff
Whereas to follow you do not
 

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