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ananiask8: Ok what i did was create an event to start immediatly, just for the sake of recording it and submiting youtube url
blackratdog_: yeah what it says on that thread is what I've been tellng people to do but it doesn't seem to have had much effect
Mr-Jonze: "I found a workaround. You create an event and you invite only one contact and then share the event with edx community. A bit complex but feasible. I keep on investigating to find a better solution. - MDY "
lokeshhh: blackratdog I am sure there's a much better way by seeing that people have done sharing the hangout with the community. Don't you wonder how that happens?
blackratdog_: lokeshhh: i'm not sure but from being in here a lot most of the hangouts I see have just been posted here and then done immediately rather than scheduled in advance
blackratdog_: and the proof that the hangout has been done is by the link to the recording on youtube
Mr-Jonze: i just dont understand why are you trying so hard to invite ppl that you dont want to join ?
lokeshhh: I have tried pasting link in the morning but there's no one in here. so I want to share the event in the edx saas page
Concadoro: I can't take a screenshot as it changes as soon as I try to take a snapshot, but I get two entries in the drop-down below. Edx Sas
glenlewis: Hey all. Quick question - I managed to connect to this IRC chat channel via client, but the chat rooms appearing at the bottom of every page is starting to driving me banana's. Did some fast google searching but couldn't find a way of hiding/stopping/disabling the chat function inside Chrome. Any suggestions?
jmendezrice: mainly because it will (sometimes, but often enough for me to hate it) suddenly scroll my page down several seconds after the main part of the page has loaded
lokeshhh: @Concadoro I have tried that edx saas following edx saas (20..) people but that didn't worked
lokeshhh: I have joined the edx community coz the option didn't appeared like in the link you just gave
Concadoro: @lokeshhh. You're not seeing enough entries. We need to find a wasy for you to see the Edx Saas group without the huge member count
lokeshhh: there's just one name listed under communities when I type "edx saas" in google+ search box
glenlewis: @tansaku_ - thank you very much. Adblock works perfectly, and the jumping has gone away (FYI - @jmendezrice)
Concadoro: lokeshhh - on the right hand siode of the page there should be a "Follow" button for you to click.
blackratdog_: yeah it seems to think people are trying to create a hangout with all the members of the group at the same time
Concadoro: Either it should say "Follow" or "Following" because you're already following. I'm a follower so it says "Following" dropbox.com/s/14whmn9id2sprje/edx%20saas.PNG
Mr-Jonze: it can not be the same as joining - and joining is what you need to do to invite the group
Concadoro: I'm hoping that lokeshhh will now see the right thing in the dropdoen when he follows the earlierinstructions
blackratdog__: on that pair programming page is a link that takes you to the group page with a big red button that says JOIN
blackratdog__: git itself is important, git pong is one of those modern techniques that seems to be popular at the moment
JakeTheAndroid: Mr-Jonze: I feel like it was one of the things I had on my plate to learn when I was a beginner. Never knew at what level its generally taught.
DaveDay: I need a volunteer who is a little comfortable with Vim to help me test G+ video + Vim/Tmux/Tmate pairing. You only need to ssh to a server address I give you and join me in a video call. Thanks. DaveDay
justom___: Software engineering encompasses both the writing of code and the process of how to write code; one of the cool things about this course is it is teaching both.
justom___: (And in fact that's how I differentiate "programming" from "software engineering"; the latter is, in my experience, more important.)
justom___: Learning the basics of a revision control system is an important software engineering practice. git is fairly widely used, so it's a good one to learn, even if you're not doing git pong regularly.
Mr-Jonze: but see once you know how to use git then doing the pong thing is not anything extra at all
Lohhari: what i was trying to say is that you cannot map version control to a beginner or intermediate level of programming
Lohhari: of course vc can be nice even when it's just you coding but add another person or two and it becomes mandatory
Lohhari: justom___: i agree that it's a part of software engineering. i actually started my career as a "Programmer" and only changed into a "Software Engineer" a couple of years later :)
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JakeTheAndroid: lol. I am jking, I just often try to be helpful here without knowing if my advice fits the parameters of the questions.
JakeTheAndroid: are you on the IRC on the course page? it uses your default login name as the IRC name.
JakeTheAndroid: I used to have like 3 different names here because of the clients I used to access this chat. one was my efnet name the other my freenode name and then my edx login name.
Nephelus: It's also "a group of models or motionless figures representing a scene from a story or from history; a tableau vivant."
ananiask8: the reason i asked that is because of the pair programming. to see how has your experience been with that
sampriti: JakeTheAndroid: on your previous discussion of age, I started with C and HTML when I was 9 and now I am 14 and am doing Ruby/Rails. Thankfully :P
JakeTheAndroid: not a bad progression. C at age 9 is really impressive. I still have issues figuring out some logic with stuff I build in C, so at age 9 I would have been really annoyed with trying to figure stuff out. Perl was much easier and helped C make some sense.
sampriti: TBH, I found C interesting. If I would have started with higher level languages. I would have probably been spoiled.
JakeTheAndroid: I always recommend people learn C at some point in their programming careers, it teaches you good habits and helps you understand how the computer actually works. but I probably would have walked away out of sheer frustration if I started with C alone.
Lohhari: in my case it was my dad's fault. he was coding in c back then in the early 90s... and still
JakeTheAndroid: I love C, and I used to use it everyday. In fact I am trying to get into kernel development as a career. But it can be very dry and it doesnt do much in the way of encouragement.
JakeTheAndroid: C is honestly a dying art. You simply dont need to be that low level anymore for most tasks.
JakeTheAndroid: the computing power today means you can use something like ruby or python and get amazing performance. embedded systems are really the only place that still requires that kind of low level work.
Lohhari: with c++11 you get much of the modern syntactic sugar and the ability to do anything you can do in C
JakeTheAndroid: yeah, I really need to checkout C++11 I have heard great things. I just don't have enough time in the day :(
JakeTheAndroid: C will always have better performance over C++ its just not very visible in most cases.
sampriti: I have used C++11 a few times and its nice. There are a lot of things that you can use and you don't need to implement from scratch unlike in C.
Lohhari: the stl containers and algorithms are so good and fast that it's extremely hard to write faster custom ones in C
JakeTheAndroid: at one point C was drastically faster than C++ but with how fast computers are today, and the optimizations made to C++ its not really something you notice, outside of very specific use cases, again, like embedded systems.
AndreasSchumm: C is the most written language since 1989 i dont believe that any other programming language will kill c in a short term
JakeTheAndroid: ananiask8: I hire developers and many of them never touch code until college. you will be fine.
AhmedEngElsayed_: I belive C is one of the most strong programming lanague which lead you to fully understand the programming
JakeTheAndroid: I a developer walks in an has C on their resume, they jump to the top of my stack even if they do not know the domain we are working it. It usually means they can easily understand it.
JakeTheAndroid: Nephelus_: exactly, while you have cowboy programmers that started when they were 9 that is no longer the norm. Its often better to have a team of good programmers vs one really good one.
JakeTheAndroid: Me too. like I said I am looking to branch out and work on kernel level stuff and get back to C programming.
JakeTheAndroid: bhood: I would be interested to see what you guys work on, I really just want to get back into high skill programming if I can
JakeTheAndroid: AhmedEngElsayed_: currently we are all full up, and we aim to hire locally. But we do have one guy that telecommutes so its not off the table.
AhmedEngElsayed_: okay just in case there is any oppotunity please let me know, I am very good with C, C# net, and begginer at Java and android
JakeTheAndroid: ahh I see. I like being DoT but honestly I am so far away from daily code that I want to get back to my roots. I end up doing more sysadmin work than actual code production.
JakeTheAndroid: AhmedEngElsayed_: we are looking at creating an App dev team for both iOS and Android, so that could be a possibility. would you be willing to do a summer internship?
JakeTheAndroid: I actually think Intel is hiring bhood for C programmers and security guys up here in Sacramento.
JakeTheAndroid: AhmedEngElsayed_: ah a fellow assembly guy. I used to work as a malware engineer and did a lot of assembly.
AhmedEngElsayed_: but i start learning my self C# Net and start working in ODESK platform as freelancer
JakeTheAndroid: sweet. you should find a kickstarter team that is getting funding. they are always looking at hiring embedded programmers after they meet their goals.
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