@vicky_molokh I prefer for the work to happen on meta. Chat is fine but is entirely parenthetical to the operation of the site.

It is used by a very, very small minority of the site and can become an echo chamber, I therefore tend to avoid it in favor of meta for policy discussion.

@mxyzplk also, meta provides a much better record of decision, if you will

@mxyzplk Now that you raise this concern, I'm thinking meta suffers from it too: judging by the amounts of votes there compared to main, it seems like only a very small fraction goes there.

@vicky_molokh also true, but the problem is less pronounced, we can feature important metas on main (as has been done in this case), the discussion is there to have without getting lost in a stream on unrelated discussion, and so on.

yeah I mean,.... this isn't really the place meant for main policy discussion

if people aren't going to meta for what it's for,......

then why should they come here for that instead?

@trogdor the free cookies?

but that's for the cookies

two different things

@BESW obligatory reply:

you said "Abyss"....

@trogdor Meta isn't always the most convenient place for discussion, what with the way comments are treated.

@Derpy he's replying to cookies

@Derpy we don't know what that is XD or at least I don't and I assume he doesn't

@vicky_molokh that's fair but meta is the place ultimately where the decision has to be made

no one is looking into the chats to see the latest news about how the site may or may not change

@trogdor She is a character from a manga called "Made in Abyss" :P. And the "Abyss" in the title isn't a nice place if you were wondering.

@Derpy mk, I just mean, we wouldn't get that reference just from a picture

@trogdor I know, sorry ^_^

it's no problem

:)

it's not "i'm mad at you" it's just "I don't get the reference"

is the same anime/manga I had already mentioned before

@Derpy ah I recall that

(at least after seeing the picture you had linked before)

my memory for that kind of thing is pretty good I guess

I can't quite remember what those three anime I mentioned I need to finish are though hilariously

one of them is Fullmetal Alchemist but I still can't bring myself to go back to that

^ this is the map of the Abyss, taken from the manga. If you noticed how it is oddly similar to how Dante described Hell....

yeah I figured that one out

that whole layout type has been,... re-used a few times

it's not,... hard to piece together

@BESW Oh, sure, there's the length limit on comments and their hiding as part of the design, but there's also the matter of them being rather impermanent and/or exiled into chat (and chats being subsequently deleted or at least frozen); that's on the community, not the software.

By the backroom he means chat, I think.

No, I mean meta.

Oh.

Meta sites were an afterthought and chat even less of a priority.

ye oldie "Comments are second class citizen" thing.

@Derpy They have a discrete purpose.