CGCC Langjam

GingerBot

22:38

discussion go rbrbrbrb

so, cgcc langjam™

emanresu A

Maybe next weekend?

GingerBot

not going to be here then

I can maybe do the weekend after next

I've missed enough chat events, it'd be nice to not miss another

idea sounds simple: make a golflang (based off of a theme?) in 24 hours

dunno how you'd theme a language but I'm sure it can be done somehow

we'd also need judging criterion

(this whole site is about objective rules right?)

emanresu A

@GingerBot Paradigm?

GingerBot

maybe

emanresu A

@GingerBot A bunch of challenges to complete in

GingerBot

22:43

but that feels a bit too open-ended

@emanresuA ooh yes

emanresu A

We could say, for example, "array language"

GingerBot

lang with best score wins

but do we sum the scores or average them?

emanresu A

Sum probably

GingerBot

hm

emanresu A

We could choose a bunch of array challenges

GingerBot

22:44

and we could have other prizes for say "most interesting feature"

ok sounds good

emanresu A

Prizes as in rep? I'm happy to offer :P

GingerBot

but we need to decide upon a paradigm

ooh yes rep

emanresu A

We'd need some basic rules to stop people from reskinning Jelly

GingerBot

if we have a signup meta post ppl could award bounties to that

what kind of rules

emanresu A

No overspecific builtins

GingerBot

22:46

hm

emanresu A

Although revealing the challenges afterwards would help

GingerBot

maybe an interpreter/compiler filesize limit

or limit on number of commands in language

emanresu A

@GingerBot Seems unnecessary honestly, the limit is practically how much work someone can get done in 24 hours

GingerBot

hm

well "overspecific builtins" is in the eye of the beholder

emanresu A

Well, it works on CGCC

GingerBot

22:50

ok

is this idea good enough to actually do?

emanresu A

What if we just use CGCC? No signup, just someone posts a question and people post answers for their langs?

(And we'd have a prevalent meta post)

GingerBot

that's what I meant

I'd make the meta post but I can't get in to my account; is there a way for the mods to reset my password or smth?

emanresu A

Can't you reset your password?

How did you create your account?

GingerBot

I'm using Google signin, which I can't reset the password on for various personal reasons

*shrug*

emanresu A

Can you access that google account, or do you know the credentials but can't get in?

GingerBot

22:54

just take my word that I can't sign in

no further questions please

(unless the mods can fix it)

emanresu A

It's possible you could merge that account with gingerbot if they have the same emails or smth

I don't actually understand how merges work, and they're buggy anyway

GingerBot

ah well

I'll fix it at some point

since this seems like an actual good idea, lemme go and create a room for it (I'll add @Ginger as an owner)

Feeds

GingerBot has added Ginger to the list of this room's owners.

GingerBot

Okay Dokay let's do this

Room for discussion of the CGCC Langjam chat event

this can perhaps be a yearly event

emanresu A

perhapws

Also

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Q: Language Design: 2-D Pattern Matching

This is Fortnightly Challenge #6. Theme: Language Design There's a chatroom for this challenge. Come and join us if you want to discuss ideas! And now for something completely different... This fortnight, we want to experiment with a new type of challenge. In this challenge, you will be de...

GingerBot

23:00

is that a dupe?

it's 7 years old so I think it's fine

emanresu A

And making it a different paradigm would change a lot

GingerBot

ok good

emanresu A

Personally I think it would be good to make it array / number challenges with no strings or anything

GingerBot

so we need to decide upon a paradigm

this is best done with a vote I think

and a vote on CGCC has in the past been done with a meta post

emanresu A

As I've said several times, I think making it array-based could be good

GingerBot

23:02

well you can vote for that then!

emanresu A

String-based is also a possibility

GingerBot

but before we make a post I think we need to get more people to get on board (like pxeger and radvylf)

emanresu A

I think a "general golflang" would take too long / too much effort to create

GingerBot

^

emanresu A

What if we made it a week instead of a day?

GingerBot

23:03

sure

but you can of course take as little time as you want

we're all about doing things fast here :p

emanresu A

True, although it'd be judged / the challenges would be revealed at the end of the week.

GingerBot

exactly

we would need to choose the challenges in secret tho, which is hard because chatrooms are viewable to anyone

emanresu A

Not necessarily, if we ask a mod nicely

Or communicate elsewhere

GingerBot

good thing we happen to know a mod

obviously the people judging and choosing challenges would not be competing

so we need to find some people who don't want to compete but do want to help

emanresu A

That's currently you and me, and should probably remain at that

GingerBot

23:06

I will of course be a judge

emanresu A

Unless you want to compete

GingerBot

nah

I think we should find one more judge tho

just two people is a bit small

emanresu A

We're not really judging, more observing, designing and moderating

GingerBot

"observerdesignermoderator" just rolls off the tongue doesn't it

I'll brb, lemme know if you find someone who wishes to observedesignmoderate

emanresu A

lol

GingerBot

23:28

alright I'm back

Steffan

ok what on earth is this

golflang dev competition?

emanresu A

smth like that

GingerBot

ye

we need a third observerdesignermoderator

(who cannot compete in the competition)

emanresu A

@GingerBot Not necessarilly :P

GingerBot

I'd like one

(maybe I just like the number 3 d:)

but also for another opinion

Steffan

23:43

ok when does this start and how long does it last

GingerBot

We plan for it to start in two weeks' time and last for a week

(because I won't be here for the next two weeks, and also so we have time to select a paradigm and do any other setup)

Steffan

so basically we just try to cook up an interesting golflang?

GingerBot

with a specific paradigm, in one week, following the rules (which we are working on)

but other than that yes

Steffan

do you have to develop it only when the contest starts or can you start earlier?

emanresu A

When the contest starts

GingerBot

23:46

only when it starts

no cheaty

emanresu A

Otherwise you could submit Chocolate / Seggan could submit Fig / Lyxal could submit Vyxal

GingerBot

@lyxal hey do you want to be an observerdesignermoderator for the langjam?

ye

Steffan

although chocolate is hardly usable atm lol

GingerBot

wait there are two users called steffan and seggan how did I not notice this

Steffan

lol

steggan

GingerBot

23:48

I've been mentally grouping yall as one user I'm sorry

Steffan

lmao

I need to change my username to naffetS or something

GingerBot

lol

"naffet" sounds like a british insult, especially if you put it after "absolute"

emanresu A

Lol

Steffan

absolute naffet!

lyxal

You mean judge?

Because I'd be open to that

GingerBot

23:56

yes, if you want to be boring and easy to understand

lyxal

I understand that it makes me inelligible to compete and I'm fine with that

GingerBot

but yes come to our chatroom for more datas

lyxal

Fricking autocorrect

GingerBot

hi, I have summoned the lyxal

lyxal

discord.gg/v6gcdRevdH is similar to what you're organising if you want some inspiration

GingerBot

23:58

huh

lyxal

And I'd be happy to be an observerdesignermoderator if you'd let me

GingerBot

I will keep that in mind

okay, lemme ask @emanresuA

yay or nay

emanresu A

yay

CGCC Langjam

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