The Sand Trap

Ginger

00:10

3D ASCII Tux spinning at the sound of Free Bird

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lyxal

sounds strange not hearing it sped up to 300% speed :p

here's why

Ginger

I have a new favorite command

lyxal

ginger tart???

me on on my way to sell you at a bakery for profit

Ginger

me when pfp update

lyxal

00:32

~æ

My favourite modifier demonstrating why you don't always need digraphs for things

Ginger

FINALLY managed to fix the mouse momentum issue

and in true Linux fashion, the solution was to add usbhid.mousepoll=0 to /boot/cmdline.txt

Rydwolf Programs

01:03

Well it seems I got approved for that secured credit card (that or someone just stole $1k from my savings account)

Ginger

~~that was me, I wanted to make sure I had some cash before whatever it is you're working on ends the world~~

Rydwolf Programs

I feel so broke, I've only got $1500 in savings and $74 in checking xD

Oh damn the Republicans got their shit together and averted the shutdown

Congress actually does something, 2023 colorized

Ginger

"oh no this might have actual consequences that affect us"

Unrelated String

01:20

incredible

Ginger

I wish :b

Unrelated String

@RydwolfPrograms is the credit card itself actually that useful or does it just have some kind of dedicated account associated with it that you just have to initially have 1k moved into

Rydwolf Programs

03:06

My sister has friends over, help

lyxal

rickroll them

Rydwolf Programs

@UnrelatedString It works like a regular credit card (credit score, cash back, etc.) you just have a separate savings account set aside as collateral, and that's your credit limit

Unrelated String

mmm

lyxal

that just sounds like a debit card with extra steps

Rydwolf Programs

So when I use the card it doesn't actually touch that $1k (unlike a prepaid card)

lyxal

03:09

ah

Rydwolf Programs

@lyxal Pretty much lol. Profitable extra steps. For me. :p

lyxal

so basically choose your own ~~adventure~~ limit

Rydwolf Programs

It's got 1% cash back, with 2% on some things and 5% on some more things

Which is pretty good

lyxal

"if you want to have a 5k limit, please turn to page 27"

you lot are a corrupting force

I have a file called client.py open in my editor, and for a second i thought it said catgirl.py

Unrelated String

nice

lyxal

03:11

no

not nice

Unrelated String

very nice

lyxal

just like how copilot suggesting method=["POST"] when i already have that isn't nice

Rydwolf Programs

You don't know about the server-catgirl model HTTP is based upon?

lyxal

they probably haven't covered that in the lecture slides yet

ugh why must flask url routing be so temperamental when using decorators

"oh what's this? you...you want to use a wrapper on more than one URL? ah sorry mate, can't allow that"

"but if you specify an endpoint, yep you'll be right as rain"

"and you have to specify it for every function otherwise I'll think you're trynna shadow something, even if you only forget to specify an endpoint for a single function"

DLosc

04:44

@lyxal Can confirm

user

05:03

@RydwolfPrograms how is that broke

That's the same amount of money i have and I'm a couple years older than you, you're doing great

I'd have 1000-3000 more if i hadn't been stiffed by forallsecure

1500 is great for ahigh school senior

DLosc

@user By who what?

user

@lyxal nah we hacked your vs code so the file name got changed to catgirl just for one second, to mess with you

@DLosc this company had a thing where you integrated their product into open source repos. But they ran out of money so a bunch of people haven't gotten their money (in fact, our PRs haven't even been reviewed yet)

The program was called Mayhem Heroes

They actually had multiple phases, and i could've gotten money in an earlier phase but i didn't make my submissions properly, being the idiot that i am, and they ran out of money in the last phase so all my work went down the drain

DLosc

Huh

Sounds kinda sus to me

lyxal

Sounds kinda what

DLosc

@lyxal knowyourmeme.com/memes/sus

There's a website for you ;P

lyxal

05:14

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Rydwolf Programs

05:36

Jesus nut

Jesus nut is a slang term for the main rotor retaining nut or mast nut, which holds the main rotor to the mast of some helicopters. The related slang term Jesus pin refers to the lock pin used to secure the retaining nut. More generally, Jesus nut (or Jesus pin) has been used to refer to any component that is a single point of failure which results in catastrophic consequences, and the only thing left to do is, metaphorically speaking, pray to Jesus, hence the name. == Origin of name == The term Jesus nut may have been coined by American soldiers in Vietnam; the Vietnam War was the first war to...

PFFT

What a name

@user Well by my calculations college costs a little more than $1.6k

And I had $3k a month ago

$1k to flight school, $1k into the void for the credit card, and a few hundred in miscellaneous purchases

@user Uhhh...no

My goal is $10k saved by when I go to college and I'll still probably die in the streets my first summer

I've made $10k YTD and only have $1.6k to show for it, that's not great :p

@user You have parents tho

I'm going to be financially independent in college which means I need to pay for health insurance and housing over the summer and all that

I'll get the $1k back once I close the credit card and get an unsecured one, but since my parents are making me pay for the instruction part of flight school, that's roughly $2.5k I'll be losing (plus add $500 or so since I'm probably going to do a bit of flying my friends around after I've got my license)

lyxal

Hol up are you gonna be a pilot, programmer or politician

And before you say all 3 I mean as a full time career

lyxal

08:20

4

A: Print 100 digits of π

Trivial answers This is mostly for answers that use a built-in arbitrary-precision pi constant, or a built-in that generates digits of pi. Python 3, 52 bytes from mpmath import* mp.dps=102 print(str(mp.pi)[3:]) Try it online! 05AB1E, 5 bytes žs¦т£ Try it online! Vyxal H, 3 bytes v∆i Try it On...

> Fill those characters with the digits of π, including the leading 3., so 1997 decimals.

> 1997 decimals

Dannyu NDos

08:36

A booze tastes the best when shared with one's father.

Dannyu NDos

10:23

It seems PyPy doesn't even support pip. And it pretends to support NumPy on the documents? Dang.

And this is another reason why I'm making a new programming language.

lyxal

@DannyuNDos did you try using mpip?

A little googling shows that pypy doesn't seem to use normal pip

@DannyuNDos also

doc.pypy.org/en/latest/faq.html#id19

Which suggests that normal pip can be used with pypy

~~seems like a bit of a skill issue tbh :p~~

Dannyu NDos

10:51

Dunno what mpip is, but it's not on NixOS anyway.

Weirdly, I can install pip for pypy310, but pypy3 -m pip is dud.

Joao-3

12:10

can anyone help me?

my handy search gui just got cut in half

lyxal

"Monopoly" Gonna have to disagree with this one. It is expected ettiquete for the board and possibly the table to be flipped at some point. — Comic Sans Strikephim Mar 7, 2021 at 12:13

Ginger

@Joao-3 ~~that's just the price you pay for using windows~~

Joao-3

lol

Ginger

also

this you?

Joao-3

12:25

nope. just a microsoft account

anyway how do i fix my search gui

Ginger

¯\_(ಠ_ಠ)_/¯

Joao-3

ever heard of dr sbaitso? he was a program to demonstrate the sound blaster in the 90s. now you have to find him, emulate him (he's on dos obviously) and tell him "say parity"

swearing a lot also works

... does c

's asm keyword have utility in golf

Joao-3

13:07

windows can match linux even with no wsl

windows has findstr

Joao-3

13:25

... ever heard of character 7?

user

14:25

@DannyuNDos ...I've never had booze before, but that doesn't make any sense

Even if you get along with your father fine, surely someone else would make a better drinking buddy

@DannyuNDos If you're using NixOS, you may have to install this using Nix itself. I guess that can be extremely painful if no one has a way to install stuff with pypy yet, but once you figure it out, other people will be able to use it, so there's that

@DannyuNDos mpip is a pip package itself, so you can use Nix to install it

(python310.withPackages (ps: [ ps.mpip ]))

Honestly NixOS is more trouble than it's worth if you're not managing like 5 separate computers

It's much easier to use a "normal" distro like openSUSE and install Nix there. You could always use btrfs if you worry about messing about your system configuration

Joao-3

14:49

I hypertranslated The bomb icon (💣) has several different applications in computing, and typically indicates a fatal system error. into This error occurs in many software (💣). Repetitive errors.

Ginger

15:08

// this disgusts me. java, do better
val bytebuf = LLVMWriteBitcodeToMemoryBuffer(module).asByteBuffer()
bytebuf.rewind()
val copybuf = Array.ofDim[Byte](bytebuf.remaining())
bytebuf.get(copybuf)

Joao-3

bruh

Structs in C are basically multi-type pointers with named fields

Ginger

I love scala's wackily-named operators for things like string concat because they let me write code like ().++:(" ")

Joao-3

wait how does that work

Ginger

the full line is scribe.error(msg.toString().++:(" "))

Joao-3

but how does .++: work

Ginger

15:18

++: prepends a string to another string

Joao-3

so convert a message to a string, prepend a tab (or is it 4 spaces?) to the string and scribe.error it?

Ginger

yup

that specific line prints out a stack trace when an error occurs in the compiler

Joao-3

15:37

in apl the .++:(" ") part would be ' '∘,

Ginger

well I'm not using APL am I :p

Joao-3

luckily dyalog keyboard is in my pc

user

15:55

@Ginger Oh god why are you writing it like that

Just do scribe.error(msg.toString() ++: " ")

Wait that's not even how you're supposed to do string concatenation

+ exists

Ginger

it's not concatenation tho

it's precatenation

user

Do scribe.error(msg.toString + " ") or scribe.error(s"$msg ")

Oh right

Ginger

and if you think that's bad you should see the match chain that the CLI uses to find a clang executable :p

user

Then scribe.error(" " ++: msg.toString) is how it should've been

But the proper way to do it would be either " " + msg or s" $msg" (I'd go with the latter)

Please please never do .++:()

@Ginger My week has been going horribly enough already so I'm good :P

Ginger

> scribe.error(s" ${msg.toString()}")

happy?

user

15:58

No

${msg.toString()} is unnecessary, just use $msg

Ginger

how about I make you even less so? here's the match

LYCSAL.link(module, outputFilename.mkString("."), config.clang match
    case Some(file) => Some(file)
    case None =>
        if config.useEmbeddedClang then
            None
        else findExecutable("clang-16").orElse(findExecutable("clang")) match
            case Some(file) => Some(file)
            case None => throw RuntimeException("Unable to find clang-16 or clang in PATH! Make sure you have it installed, or alternately try running LYCSAL again with --use-embedded-clang, which probably won't work but is at least better than nothing. I'd advise installing clang if possible though.")

user

$msg will do msg.toString anyway

@Ginger Variables exist for a reason, you know

Ginger

variables are for suckers

user

You can do val config = config.clang match ... on a previous line

Ginger

this is what happens when you make a Kotlin dev use Scala

user

15:59

This is not a Kotlin dev problem, this is clearly a you problem :P

Ginger

nonsense!

user

A Kotlin dev would be used to elvis, yes, but they would have the sense to make a val config = ...

Ginger

at least when the compiler works it's absurdly fast

user

Nice

Ginger

even with my shitty code, it compiles hello world in something like 50ms

user

16:00

That's really good

Ginger

(I'm guessing, but it's probably not too far off)

user

Wonder how bad it'll get as LYCSAL gets complicated

Ginger

(it's fast enough that the logs say it took 0s)

(also that's with -l, which skips linking and outputs raw IR, and with optimization disabled)

user

Btw you should really use scalafmt so at least your match chains look less unappetizing

Ginger

scalafmt seems to think that the optimal line length is 20 characters

bruh why isn't it linking

user

16:04

LYCSAL.link(
  module,
  outputFilename.mkString("."),
  config.clang.orElse(
    Option.when(!config.useEmbeddedClang) {
      findExecutable("clang-16").orElse(findExecutable("clang")) match
        case Some(file) => file
        case None =>
          throw RuntimeException(
            "Unable to find clang-16 or clang in PATH! Make sure you have it installed, or alternately try running LYCSAL again with --use-embedded-clang, which probably won't work but is at least better than nothing. I'd advise installing clang if possible though."

Ginger

slick

user

@Ginger Try newlines.source = fold if you like long lines

Ginger

[error] /usr/bin/ld: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/Scrt1.o: in function `_start':
[error] (.text+0x17): undefined reference to `main'

I'm sorry?????

YOOOOOO

IT LINKED!

ginger@gingersrv:/home/ginger/lycsal$ java -jar target/scala-3.3.0/lycsal-assembly-0.1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar hello.vy         [0]
[INFO] welcome to LYCSAL 0.1.0-SNAPSHOT
[INFO] loading hello.vy
[INFO] compiling to hello
Warning: Version of org.bytedeco:llvm could not be found.
[INFO] forgoing optimization, user didn't ask for it
[INFO] linking
warning: overriding the module target triple with x86_64-pc-linux-gnu [-Woverride-module]
1 warning generated.
[INFO] success! compiled in 1s
ginger@gingersrv:/home/ginger/lycsal$ ./hello                                                                       …

I'm so proud

well, I tried running it with optimization and it froze

and Ctrl-C caused a segfault

so LYCSAL technically works, but is extremely unstable

do I upload it to GH?

on one hand, yall would be able to help me develop it

on the other hand:

user

16:20

*.log in your gitignor

@Ginger Task failed successfully

Ginger

who needs -O3 when you can have -OOO

well, the optimization step has been running for over 30s and using the entirety of a CPU core to do it, so I guess I can just bill it as a bloatless Chrome emulator

ok, fixed the freezing issue

for some reason the instruction-combining pass caused it to lock up?

who knows

Ginger

17:25

well, I've published LYCSAL

Ginger

18:11

TIL about Ctrl-R in shells

cannot believe I didn't know about it earlier

Rydwolf Programs

18:48

What does that do?

Oh just reverse I search? That's alt+number on Chrome OS's default terminal which is super annoyong

Ginger

fish's implementation of it is amazing

Ginger

20:24

opinion: monitors should have physical input selection switches

DLosc

20:55

@user I've never had booze either, but that seems like an odd assertion to me. Why wouldn't there be some people who prefer doing a certain thing with their dad than with anyone else?

One has more history with the people one grew up with (often parents & siblings) than with anyone else. Sometimes that's a negative thing, sometimes mixed; but if it's a positive, it can be very positive. I've got a whole raft of shared experiences and inside jokes with my parents that no one else would understand.

Rydwolf Programs

@Ginger Oh?

@lyxal Fighter pilot out of college for ten years (ROTC commitment minimum), then I'll pivot into politics, aim for POTUS by late 40s, and go into scientific research in a high impact field after that, eventually retiring and teaching middle/high school more for fun than for any actual salary

No plans to do programming professionally, just doesn't sound fulfilling

Gonna try to break the land speed record at some point in there (under a pseudonym)

math scat

well I have a 2 cm cut in my thumb from cutting bread

no idea how I managed to do that

Rydwolf Programs

It's an easy mistake to make, fingers and bread look and taste similar

6

(Is your finger okay?)

Hopefully it's not like, a deep cut?

math scat

eh it should be fine :p

@RydwolfPrograms o.0

Ginger

21:15

@RydwolfPrograms yup

I dislike pressing a bunch of buttons and waiting 10s whenever I switch the computer I'm using

Rydwolf Programs

21:53

HDMI switcher maybe? Could probably make a custom passive one

Or DisplayPort if you're a nonbinary of culture

Or S-video if you're...what even is S-video

Ginger

22:07

spaghetti-video

@RydwolfPrograms yeah, but that shouldn't be necessary is what I'm saying

fun fact: my two computers are connected to my two monitors with one DVI cable, one DisplayPort cable, one HDMI cable, and one HDMI-to-VGA adapter cable

user

@DLosc Yeah, I should've said "could" rather than "would"

user

22:21

@RydwolfPrograms Do you plan on getting a PhD or something along the way, if you're going to do research after becoming President? Because that seems like a lot

Rydwolf Programs

23:01

@user No, I'd have to figure that out once I'm done being president. No time before then

Well, maybe I'd have enough free time to do a PhD in addition to fighter pilot/congressman through like an online sorta thing, idk

They're kinda sketch from what I've heard but I think having been president of the united states would make up for that

I might get more use out of getting a JD during that time than a PhD tho

Altho I kinda suspect I could learn most of what I need about con law and stuff from textbooks lol

Rydwolf Programs

23:18

Well found the most commonly used con law textbook for $20 on Amazon so time to put my money where my mouth is ig lol

lyxal

23:55

New York's Plan to Stop Racism

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